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« on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 13:07:25 » |
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« Reply #1 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 13:10:44 » |
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Cant see it happening now. It will be bent if they change there mind. They decided a fine was enough so why cant Sheff Utd fucking accept it. They had there chance to stay up and blew it. End of!
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« Reply #2 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 13:22:06 » |
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Cant see it happening now. It will be bent if they change there mind. They decided a fine was enough so why cant Sheff Utd fucking accept it. They had there chance to stay up and blew it. End of! That McCabe character is a proper bellend they weren't good enough end of story like you said they should just accept it. As soon as Warnock left McCabe immediately blamed Warnock for the relegation and now he's blaming the Premier League. Just accept it, you weren't good enough and deserved to get relegated ....full stop. |
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« Reply #3 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 13:27:02 » |
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At the end of the day if the FA do reinstate them it will cause havoc, no way will they do it.
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« Reply #4 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 16:40:36 » |
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it will be a disgrace if they are reinstated
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« Reply #5 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 17:19:28 » |
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"The Blades chief said having an extra team in the Premiership was a possibility.
He added: "It seems a simple way of sorting things out but again that is really for the board of the Premier League to decide and opine upon."
yes, a very simple solution, because that way each weekend you'd have one football club sat around twiddling their thumbs with no-one to play you enormous fucking twat.
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« Reply #6 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 17:57:30 » |
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Sheff Utd were relegated because they were shit. End of. Its got nothing to do with Tevez and West Ham. If they are reinstated it would make The Premiership a complete joke.
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« Reply #7 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 18:09:52 » |
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Sheff Utd were relegated because they were shit. End of. Yes, but playing Devil's Advocate here... Surely West Ham should have been religated because they were MORE shit than Sheff United? The only reason they were less shit is because they signed a player illegally - take away the points he earned them and West Ham should have gone down. |
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« Reply #8 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 18:21:50 » |
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Devil's advocate or not it's what I believe, though I'd prefer West Ham to stay up.
For me it all comes down to whether the Premier League went against there rules when dishing out punishment or against just guidelines. If the latter I guess things should be left as is.
It's messy now though. Should Sheff Utd win their case and West Ham go down then there will be a law suit. Should it happen the other way around there will probably be a law suit.
Sad state of affairs, but we are talking about £30m (min) here so unsurprising really.
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« Reply #9 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 20:04:23 » |
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Sheff Utd were relegated because they were shit. End of. Yes, but playing Devil's Advocate here... Surely West Ham should have been religated because they were MORE shit than Sheff United? The only reason they were less shit is because they signed a player illegally - take away the points he earned them and West Ham should have gone down. Ah, but that's not strictly true, is it? West Ham registered the player with the FA and were up front about the circumstances. IIRC, at the time he and Masharano (sp) joined West Ham, it was common knowledge that their registrations were held by a 3rd party. The only people who fucked up here are at the FA, which, imo, is why they didn't get a points deduction. |
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« Reply #10 on: Sunday, June 3, 2007, 20:10:16 » |
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The problem as far as I was aware was not that they were owned by a 3rd party, just that they had a clause that the 3rd party could buy them out in December for a fee, which is against FA rules.
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« Reply #11 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:23:05 » |
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Sheff Utd were relegated because they were shit. End of. Yes, but playing Devil's Advocate here... Surely West Ham should have been religated because they were MORE shit than Sheff United? The only reason they were less shit is because they signed a player illegally - take away the points he earned them and West Ham should have gone down. Ah, but that's not strictly true, is it? West Ham registered the player with the FA and were up front about the circumstances. IIRC, at the time he and Masharano (sp) joined West Ham, it was common knowledge that their registrations were held by a 3rd party. The only people who fucked up here are at the FA, which, imo, is why they didn't get a points deduction. I think you need to go back and have a look at the tribunals judgement, which made it clear that far from being "up front about the circumstances", West Ham representatives lied repeatedly about the arrangements surrounding the two player's contracts because they knew that they had breached league rules. Batch is right, if ever there was a team that was kept up by a single player it was West Ham this last season. Take away the goals that Tevez scored or set up in the last 10 games and they would have finished about 10-15 points behind Sheff U. And do any of us believe that West Ham could have signed that player legitimately? Well we'll see won't we. Anyone think he'll still be at Upton Park come the start of the season? No I didn't think so. |
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« Reply #12 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:31:35 » |
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Batch is right, if ever there was a team that was kept up by a single player it was West Ham this last season. Take away the goals that Tevez scored or set up in the last 10 games and they would have finished about 10-15 points behind Sheff U.
Yeah, the point I was trying to badly make myself. West Ham lied about the transfer - fact. Take off the points Tevez gained them, they'd be down - fact. Seems a pretty black and white decision to me. |
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« Reply #13 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:33:16 » |
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How can you possibly tell how many points West Ham would have won/lost without Tevez?
When Tevez was signed West Ham went on a seriously bad run of form. Who's to say, if Tevez and Mascherano were not signed, that West Ham would have gone on that bad run of form? For all you know they could have won an equal amount of points than what Tevez earned them towards the end of the season.
You also forget that the regime and manager that signed Tevez and Mascherano are no longer at the club, so I think it would be extremely harsh to punish their current board, Curbishley and their fans.
West Ham got their punishment, Sheff Utd should get over it and accept relegation.
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« Reply #14 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:33:59 » |
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Batch is right, if ever there was a team that was kept up by a single player it was West Ham this last season. Take away the goals that Tevez scored or set up in the last 10 games and they would have finished about 10-15 points behind Sheff U.
Yeah, the point I was trying to badly make myself. West Ham lied about the transfer - fact. Take off the points Tevez gained them, they'd be down - fact. Seems a pretty black and white decision to me. I assume by that logic, you'll adding 3 points for the games they lost aswell then? |
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