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You also forget that the regime and manager that signed Tevez and Mascherano are no longer at the club, so I think it would be extremely harsh to punish their current board, Curbishley and their fans.
By that logic they shouldn't have been punished at all! I don't remember any West Ham fans kicking up a fuss about it being unfair on our innocent fans and poor old Ossie when the league relegated us 2 divisions for Macari and Hilliers little financial shenanigans. |
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« Reply #16 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:48:28 » |
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How can you possibly tell how many points West Ham would have won/lost without Tevez?
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You can't. Which is why the FA and League usually react to any breaches of rules around player eligibility by removing the club from the relevant competition or deducting all the points gained in every game the offendng player had played in. |
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« Reply #17 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:49:42 » |
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Exactly. It is a charge against the club, not the individual.
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« Reply #18 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 08:51:16 » |
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How can you possibly tell how many points West Ham would have won/lost without Tevez?
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You can't. Which is why the FA and League usually react to any breaches of rules around player eligibility by removing the club from the relevant competition or deducting all the points gained in every game the offendng player had played in. And in that case, West Ham would have ended up pretty much bottom. |
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« Reply #19 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 09:01:44 » |
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never gonna happen West Ham have too much sway .. with Man Utd .. I mean the FA  |
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« Reply #20 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 09:57:41 » |
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never gonna happen West Ham have too much sway .. with Man Utd .. I mean the FA That I suppose is why people, including Sheff U, are pissed off about it. Loads of smaller clubs outside London just think "I bet we'd not have got away with that". |
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« Reply #21 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 10:10:37 » |
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I have to say, as much as I dislike Sheff Utd and believe the whole process is making a mockery out of football in this Country, I do have a little bit of sympathy for them.
You just know that in any other league in the Country the club involved would have had points deducted.
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« Reply #22 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 10:14:44 » |
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That seems to be the route of the problem - other pro leagues are goverened by the FA or local FAs at a lower level, the Prem teams have agreed to the Prem discipline structure which is outside of the FA as I understand it. I don't necessarily believe it's the correct decision, but Sheff Utd agreed to the discipline procedures at the start of the season and are only complaingin once it's affected them.
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« Reply #23 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 10:19:51 » |
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I do not want to see any club being demoted due to some red tape issue. The signings of Tevez and Maschareno may not have been as clear cut as they should have been but I do not see a need for points deduction.
Sheff Utd need to take this on the chin and prepare for next season as if they carry on like this it could affect next season which would be a nightmare for them.
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« Reply #24 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 11:14:14 » |
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I do not want to see any club being demoted due to some red tape issue. The signings of Tevez and Maschareno may not have been as clear cut as they should have been but I do not see a need for points deduction.
Sheff Utd need to take this on the chin and prepare for next season as if they carry on like this it could affect next season which would be a nightmare for them. I can see Sheff Utd getting relegated from the Championship next season if they carry on like this......if they aren't careful they'll end up with minimal preparations for the new season and spend it feeling sorry for themselves. They just need to accept it and move on, if they are a Premiership team as they would like us to believe then they will get promoted again. Simple |
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« Reply #25 on: Monday, June 4, 2007, 11:53:34 » |
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If west ham were to get points deducted now, then it will be for the new season...
Sour grapes me thinks. Suddenly the Wigan chairman has gone all quiet on the whole thing.... :-))(
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If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit...
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 20:24:21 » |
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Fuck me now Sheff utd are going on about taking the case to Europe if it all goes tits up here! http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/sheff_utd/6716185.stmFuckin move on. Its done now. |
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If my calculations are correct, when this baby hits 88 miles per hour, you're gonna see some serious shit...
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 21:56:01 » |
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I'm getting fed up of all this, even though I do think the Premier League pulled a fast one by delaying it to virtually the end of the season before the punishment, but at the end of the day when it came to the final game of the season it was in their own hands...and they screwed it up !!
Premier League...You're having a laugh !!
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, June 13, 2007, 22:49:06 » |
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Its all a bit of a farce. Its just a shame that teams in lower divisions seem to get different punishments to teams in the higher ones.
I'm sure Wigan, Fulham, Charlton and Watford will also be looking at the saga with interest, as it may impact their premiership prize money they won last year for finishing in their respective positions.
I dont think anything will be done about it now, as it will all get messy and complicated. The maximum Shef Utd will recieve is some sort of financial compensation, but if this is the case, im sure they will fight for £60 million (as this is how much premship teams will exect to earn next season)
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« Reply #29 on: Thursday, June 14, 2007, 07:54:59 » |
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I'm getting fed up of all this, even though I do think the Premier League pulled a fast one by delaying it to virtually the end of the season before the punishment, but at the end of the day when it came to the final game of the season it was in their own hands...and they screwed it up !!
Premier League...You're having a laugh !! Exactly. If you can't beat Wigan at home you deserve to go down. |
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