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« Reply #45 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 16:42:24 »

So you were at a meeting between the club and fans representatives?

But you have said in previous posts that you are an independent......

So how did you get an invite?

Who at this meeting was representing fans and from what group?

I know Bennett was there on behalf of the Official supporters group. what other fans groups were represented?
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« Reply #46 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:02:13 »

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triseros ... they never said the CVA was up to date ... they said that "all current commitments have been met" ... which as I have said before was factually corrrect as the CVA is being renegotiated and so nothing is currently due until it is sorted ...... but nevertheless incredibly misleading and certainly my view is that the reason that current commitments have been met should have been revealed ..... but technically they told no lie at that meeting.

arriba ... I agree that it would be very different if the cva could be paid .. not sure how much difference the increased gates make when taken against the reduced prices this season .... I don't know that the Wise compo is in yet ... I think I read somewhere that was still to come (I think Bates is not the quickest of payers) ... also even with the money in we would have to offload players before we could buy anymore because of the league two wage cap rule.

Batch ... I kinda have a list .. but was going to wait until the end of the week to see what else was suggested (and how often!!) before deciding .. I only want to ask about 10 questions ... because any more would certainly get ignored (in my opinion).


Id say a payment that was due in June would be a "current commitment" :roll:

The CVA is being negotiated. That doesnt mean they can fuck around with our club by not paying installments which they are legally obliged (sp?) to make!
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« Reply #47 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:05:24 »

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triseros ... they never said the CVA was up to date ... they said that "all current commitments have been met" ... which as I have said before was factually corrrect as the CVA is being renegotiated and so nothing is currently due until it is sorted ...... but nevertheless incredibly misleading and certainly my view is that the reason that current commitments have been met should have been revealed ..... but technically they told no lie at that meeting.

arriba ... I agree that it would be very different if the cva could be paid .. not sure how much difference the increased gates make when taken against the reduced prices this season .... I don't know that the Wise compo is in yet ... I think I read somewhere that was still to come (I think Bates is not the quickest of payers) ... also even with the money in we would have to offload players before we could buy anymore because of the league two wage cap rule.

Batch ... I kinda have a list .. but was going to wait until the end of the week to see what else was suggested (and how often!!) before deciding .. I only want to ask about 10 questions ... because any more would certainly get ignored (in my opinion).
Now i may be wrong but this statement suggest you know alot more than you let on.It has not been in anything i have read lately.If im wrong then sorry

Anyone else seen this
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« Reply #48 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:06:21 »

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Quote from: "Maverick"
triseros ... they never said the CVA was up to date ... they said that "all current commitments have been met" ... which as I have said before was factually corrrect as the CVA is being renegotiated and so nothing is currently due until it is sorted ...... but nevertheless incredibly misleading and certainly my view is that the reason that current commitments have been met should have been revealed ..... but technically they told no lie at that meeting.

arriba ... I agree that it would be very different if the cva could be paid .. not sure how much difference the increased gates make when taken against the reduced prices this season .... I don't know that the Wise compo is in yet ... I think I read somewhere that was still to come (I think Bates is not the quickest of payers) ... also even with the money in we would have to offload players before we could buy anymore because of the league two wage cap rule.

Batch ... I kinda have a list .. but was going to wait until the end of the week to see what else was suggested (and how often!!) before deciding .. I only want to ask about 10 questions ... because any more would certainly get ignored (in my opinion).
Now i may be wrong but this statement suggest you know alot more than you let on.It has not been in anything i have read lately.If im wrong then sorry

Anyone else seen this

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« Reply #49 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:07:09 »

I posted the meeting earlier in this thread herthab

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~932416,00.html

You will see that there were 3 from the Trust and also reps from the Supporters Club and Disabled Supporters

As for how I got invited .. rather than repeat myself .. the following link should explain I hope!!!

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/Forum_New/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32165&whichpage=18

I warn you it is an extremely long and very tedious thread (helped to be tedious by me as you would expect!!) ..... It is a 25 page thread so I have linked to the page that I explained how it happened on.

Sorry to hear about your car
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« Reply #50 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:12:18 »

Quote from: "Maverick"
I posted the meeting earlier in this thread herthab

http://www.swindontownfc.premiumtv.co.uk/page/News/NewsDetail/0,,10341~932416,00.html

You will see that there were 3 from the Trust and also reps from the Supporters Club and Disabled Supporters

As for how I got invited .. rather than repeat myself .. the following link should explain I hope!!!

http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/Forum_New/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=32165&whichpage=18

I warn you it is an extremely long and very tedious thread (helped to be tedious by me as you would expect!!) ..... It is a 25 page thread so I have linked to the page that I explained how it happened on.

Sorry to hear about your car
you have posted for quite a while now and make some good points but i still dont fully understand what is you actually want.

Im not being rude but the impressions i get from your posts are the following

You support the current regime
you support the trust
you dont have confidence in the board
you dont have confidence in the trust

Could you clear up for me what it is you actually hope will happen with our club.

To make it easier do you want the current regime to carry on or would you like the trust backed consortium to take over?
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« Reply #51 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:13:30 »

Please let's not turn this into a 25 page epic then shall we ?
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« Reply #52 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:15:58 »

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Please let's not turn this into a 25 page epic then shall we ?
please keep that comment to yourself.If a first time poster was to see that comment from a trust member they could see that as a sign that your not interested Wink
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« Reply #53 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:18:08 »

Cheesy
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« Reply #54 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:18:28 »

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Please let's not turn this into a 25 page epic then shall we ?


Why not Fred?

I'm not doing anything at the moment and I can't go anywhere as I haven't got a car!

Maverick (The irony of that name is so obvious!) Thanks for your reply and your sentiments regarding my unfortunate mishap.

I still feel you have an agenda.
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« Reply #55 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:21:30 »

red macca ... I may well be wrong ... I thought I had read/heard it .. if so I am sure someone else will confirm .. otherwise .. sorry ... but either way ..... we are at our wage cap (or close last time they told us) so unless we offload players we will not be able to bring anyone new in.

SwindonTartanArmy .. at the time of the meeting the CVA was already being renegotiated so there technically was and is no "current" commitment ... as soon as it has been renegotiated or fails .. then the amount will become due either right away if it fails .. or else whenever they agree the next payment will be due .... I do wonder how long these things take to renegotiate though!!
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« Reply #56 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:23:44 »

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red macca ... I may well be wrong ... I thought I had read/heard it .. if so I am sure someone else will confirm .. otherwise .. sorry ... but either way ..... we are at our wage cap (or close last time they told us) so unless we offload players we will not be able to bring anyone new in.

quote]Surely the wages of Wise, Poyet, Ince and the other coaches that came through our revolving door dont equal that of Sturrock and his coaches?
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« Reply #57 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:24:56 »

Quote from: "Maverick"
red macca ... I may well be wrong ... I thought I had read/heard it .. if so I am sure someone else will confirm .. otherwise .. sorry ... but either way ..... we are at our wage cap (or close last time they told us) so unless we offload players we will not be able to bring anyone new in.

SwindonTartanArmy .. at the time of the meeting the CVA was already being renegotiated so there technically was and is no "current" commitment ... as soon as it has been renegotiated or fails .. then the amount will become due either right away if it fails .. or else whenever they agree the next payment will be due .... I do wonder how long these things take to renegotiate though!!
We were when we signed ince yes but he isnt here.

Im with herthab with this one i still think you are up to something.I wont judge you for that as thats your choice but if you are hoping to sway a few heads back in the current boards direction you are on the wrong site imo
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« Reply #58 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:26:01 »

Quote from: "Maverick"
red macca ... I may well be wrong ... I thought I had read/heard it .. if so I am sure someone else will confirm .. otherwise .. sorry ... but either way ..... we are at our wage cap (or close last time they told us) so unless we offload players we will not be able to bring anyone new in.

SwindonTartanArmy .. at the time of the meeting the CVA was already being renegotiated so there technically was and is no "current" commitment ... as soon as it has been renegotiated or fails .. then the amount will become due either right away if it fails .. or else whenever they agree the next payment will be due .... I do wonder how long these things take to renegotiate though!!


we were near it when ince signed, now we aren't surely? Ince must have commanded a healty fee
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« Reply #59 on: Monday, January 8, 2007, 17:26:15 »

Nah              Wise was only on 4.50/ hr minimium wage. When he grew up it would have gone up to 5.00/ hr
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