jayohaitchenn
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« Reply #15 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 16:20:44 » |
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everything in moderation. I think most people have a basic intelligence that tells them when they are overdoing it. I have tried most drugs (except crack and heroin) and yet I'm a pretty intelligent guy, who holds down a decent job, is married and owns my own house.
The problem is you only hear about drop outs and wasters because that is what sells newspapers.
imagine the headline:
"MAN HAS GOOD TIME ON DRUGS, WHILE LEADING NORMAL LIFE SHOCKER!"
not exactly breaking news is it.
ps, don't bother doing coke if you don't snort, you are wasting your money. Get some speed, mix it with glucose and you have some pretty potent bass.
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« Reply #16 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 16:50:55 » |
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coke has made me talk utter shit the couple of times i've tried it, last time ended in an argument with my girlfriend so i won't be doing it again
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jayohaitchenn
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« Reply #17 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:09:19 » |
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you did too much. like i said, everything in moderation. you need to know your limits.
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« Reply #18 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:12:44 » |
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Guys ! I know one fellow after taking some drugs rather mixed with alcohol he was chasing after people and wanted to kill them by ax . He is my neighborugh 
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« Reply #19 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:19:01 » |
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I've always found myself to get the giggles whenever i smoked weed or pot.
only other thing i tried was LSD. took a planet earth once. all i can say is mental.
this was when i was about 15 and haven't touched the stuff since.
a couple of my mates who carried on taking harder/stronger stuff have ended up inside through dealing etc. but they are fucking drop outs and fucking clueless idiots.
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« Reply #20 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:25:00 » |
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Obviously all drugs are designed to alter the chemical balance in your brain. It stands to reason that people could go a bit mental if they take drugs. But I do think it's over documented. Drinking doesn't get as much coverage except for the saturday night spill out from the clubs and pubs...
Must say you can get into a routine with the green. In the last year of uni 3 of us in our house got through a quarter every 4-7 days :? It didn't effect my grades, but my housemates (who finished uni the year before) did warn me they dropped a grade because of it. I guess like people say, you need to know your limits.
I must say though, I don't really miss it although I drink shit loads more now and I reckon I use alcohol as a substitute.
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« Reply #21 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:34:59 » |
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i know of somebody that had serious mental health issues after years of smoking cannabis. I know ten that haven't. and it deffo leads to other drugs as myself and group of friends in our teens went that way!
Did weed make a difference though? Would you not have sought the other drugs without weed? i know loads that haven't too,but it does effect some. all people are different! the second part i cannot answer but i probably would have. i started off on weed,then acid, then onto speed,e's and coke-crack also was into ketamine,and prescription drugs ect for a while. 4 of my mates that started on weed are now dead after getting into heroin.
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« Reply #22 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:35:46 » |
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you did too much. like i said, everything in moderation. you need to know your limits. naah, only had one line the time it ended in an argument, i'm very good at managing my drug intake, never go silly. in my experience most people on coke blab utter crap and become quite self-involved. it wears off so quick too, and is expensive.
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« Reply #23 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 17:57:18 » |
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I will try to avoid getting my angry head on, but I think weed fucks you up. At least in the long term.
I hate the shit and think it's a bit of a fashion accessory.
Anyway, i have quite a few mates whose lives are properly down the pans, as a result of weed. I knwo people will say, "how do you know this" and "how do you know that", but fuck that, it's fact. Especially seeing as one Dole dosser of a mate, who smoked far too much, gave up after 15 years and now has a proper job, doesn't whine, bitch and get bitter. He shows alot more humility and now hates weed with a passion!
I have other friends so paranoid they are friends no longer, an agrophobic friend, a manic depressive or 2 and a load of jobless mash heads who do fuck all other than get bitter about nothing.
As some have said, moderation is key.
I always said, when i was younger, that weed never leads to hard drugs. Bullshit. I'm sure anyone over the age of 25 who smoked weed when younger, and who's being completely honest, will confess to have really pushed the boat out.
I'm now straight as fuck and to be completely honest have never been into anything in a big way. Thanks fuck i say, my mates have recently graduated to Crack. Nice one boys.
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« Reply #24 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:05:28 » |
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Why over 25 Barry Scott? Can you not buy other drugs when your under 25? Is it like some dealer rule that they won't sell to under 25 year olds? Never done anything other than weed and booze.
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jayohaitchenn
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« Reply #25 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:24:03 » |
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You lot need to reverse engineer the argument. for example:
it is said that those who try weed are more likely to try hard drugs
or put another way:
Those who have tried hard drugs started on weed.
I don't think the two necessarily follow. It's like the age old argument of video games causing violence. Would it not be reasonable to assume that a violent person would be attracted to violent games?
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« Reply #26 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:26:21 » |
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Why over 25 Barry Scott? Can you not buy other drugs when your under 25? Is it like some dealer rule that they won't sell to under 25 year olds? Never done anything other than weed and booze. Cheeky cunt It just seemed around 25 years old that i noticed things escalating for my friends. whether it was the effects of earlier abuse or the need to get more, i don't know?! Perhaps it was just the prolonged weed use that eventually started to hit them? I don't know. All i know is seeing friends give up/start up/smoke more weed, showed marked changes in their personality and lives as a whole. Me, i'm just beer, fags and espresso. :| I don't think the two necessarily follow. I disagree, i expect that the vast majority of people who use hard drugs started on weed. I've been there. 12 years old weed scared me FFS. After being conviniced it was okay to try it (by the media, pop and hiphop no less!). I smoked for years, i "progressed" to fags and later in life realised that drugs weren't that bad, afterall, "everyone does them". One day it was fucking clear, mainly due to a friend being permanently altered by a "bad trip", that drugs suck. I never really touched anything again. I have a friend who has only done weed, he's the most paranoid freak you'll ever meet. He's an agrophobic and a manic depressive. He gave up for a period and instantly overcame the agrophobia and mass paranoia. He started again when he felt okay. He's back within the confines of his house, and has made enermies out of his friends because of "how we laugh about him behind his back". It's a fucking sad state of affairs.
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« Reply #27 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:43:02 » |
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extreme cases i'm afraid.
I don't mean to sound cold, but if you drink enough water you will poison yourself. Myself, my wife and a massive portion of my friends are living proof that people can responsibly enjoy drugs for an extended period of time and have little lasting effect.
I don't buy into your interpretation of events Barry, so we'll agree to disagree on this one I think.
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« Reply #28 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:46:16 » |
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you are both right.barry is right as i've seen it myself with people and i was heading that way. jayohaitchenn you to are correct that drugs dont always have a negative effect on people
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« Reply #29 on: Wednesday, January 3, 2007, 18:55:42 » |
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extreme cases i'm afraid.
I don't mean to sound cold, but if you drink enough water you will poison yourself. Myself, my wife and a massive portion of my friends are living proof that people can responsibly enjoy drugs for an extended period of time and have little lasting effect.
I don't buy into your interpretation of events Barry, so we'll agree to disagree on this one I think. No you're right, i've just seen more negative than positive. If someone has the occassional smoke, as far as i'm concerned that's fine. Do it alot everyday though, shit changes. On a side note, one which is close to my heart, i don't understand how smoking is less accepted than weed these days... Weed smoked on its own is proven to be more harmful than fags. I have a feeling this could get some peoples backs up, but eh?  Peace.
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