Weed

[millom red]

Interesting discussion on five live about weed at the mo.
Does it destroy brain cells, and if you have ms, which destroys brain cells that manage bodily function anyway, why aint it been legalised if it helps?! And whats wrong with chocolate laced with cannabis for those who beleive it helps with the symptoms of ms?

Millom

[cavpete]

There's a website called thc4ms and they were the ones selling the cannabis choc bars. They have now been told to cease immediate production of product.

http://www.thc4ms.org.uk/



when they whent to court they had no chance the judge said they have no defence at all and even if they did it would be thrown out. If convicted they could face upto 35 years in jail...

[Amir]

It also (temporarily) lowers blood pressure, which can provide relief for someone who suffers from DVT(deep vein thrombosis).

There are good and bad points to it, but why it's not available on prescription, god only knows.  What I hate is when they wheel out people who say it has ruined their lives, 99 times out of 100 because it has brought out an already existing psychological problem they have(this problem having been exasperated by the huge increase in strength of modern cannabis).

Another one that gets me is the 'gateway drug' argument.  If someone is predisposed to get stoned, then of course they are more inclined to take other types of drugs.  Especially so when you consider that weed is illegal yet you are still allowed to drink, even a rational person could be led to believe that maybe other illegal drugs aren't as bad as they've been told.

[cavpete]

It also (temporarily) lowers blood pressure, which can provide relief for someone who suffers from DVT(deep vein thrombosis).

There are good and bad points to it, but why it's not available on prescription, god only knows.  What I hate is when they wheel out people who say it has ruined their lives, 99 times out of 100 because it has brought out an already existing psychological problem they have(this problem having been exasperated by the huge increase in strength of modern cannabis).

Another one that gets me is the 'gateway drug' argument.  If someone is predisposed to get stoned, then of course they are more inclined to take other types of drugs.  Especially so when you consider that weed is illegal yet you are still allowed to drink, even a rational person could be led to believe that maybe other illegal drugs aren't as bad as they've been told.

:toppost:  :goodpost:

[Arriba]

i know of somebody that had serious mental health issues after years of smoking cannabis.
and it deffo leads to other drugs as myself and group of friends in our teens went that way!
it does have positive effects for ms sufferers ect but it can be dangerous too.
its an impossible question to answer really as it effects people differently.
but its no worse than alcohol imo

[oxford_fan]

It probably kills a few brain cells, as alcohol does. Thankfully though our bodies are in a constant state of regeneration, hence why plenty of very intelligent people smoke green.

It's disgusting that it's not available on prescription for MS and other certain sufferers. If I were suffering I'd grow my own without a care, the courts won't punish you other than confiscating equipment at the worst.

Watch out for weed with dust all over it that is going about at the moment, could be the fibre glass coated stuff which some cunt is shipping about to make a bit more money in this drought, adds 35% more weight but fucks your lungs up big time.

As Amir says, modern skunk is really hindering any developments for legalisation. With all these super strains being bred which can really fuck with your head, there's a very good argument to keep it illegal in my opinion. Weed or most hash, on the other hand, has nowhere near the potential psychological damage of skunk.

[yeo]

Not sure about leading to other things but ive seen more than one person become a dribbling mong paronoid recluse smoking it.Most grow out of it (usually when they have children) some dont.Ive lost good friends to it ,they haven't died they have just crawled up their own arses.Alcohol is equally as bad though just more socially acceptable.I never took to smoking it made me paranoid and I didnt like it.I prefered my drugs to take me up not down.

[oxford_fan]

i know of somebody that had serious mental health issues after years of smoking cannabis.

I know ten that haven't.

and it deffo leads to other drugs as myself and group of friends in our teens went that way!

Did weed make a difference though? Would you not have sought the other drugs without weed?

[oxford_fan]

I prefered my drugs to take me up not down.

Alcohol is a depressant yeovil! Or do you mean 'drugs'.

[Bushey Boy]

Weed never really gave me a buzz but I hate smoking so could explain it.  My best mates mum dies of MS and I know for a fact smoking weed helped teh pain so I am all for it

[yeo]

Well it doesnt make me depressed  but I ment Speed,Pills and Coke.

[Amir]

Not sure about leading to other things but ive seen more than one person become a dribbling mong paronoid recluse smoking it.Most grow out of it (usually when they have children) some dont.Ive lost good friends to it ,they haven't died they have just crawled up their own arses.Alcohol is equally as bad though just more socially acceptable.I never took to smoking it made me paranoid and I didnt like it.I prefered my drugs to take me up not down.

It's a fair point, it can fuck people up.  My belief is that it does generally bring out pre-existing conditions, though that doesn't make any difference really, it's still causing alot of people problems that most of the time they would never end up experiencing if they didn't smoke.

To me alcohol is many times more dangerous, but then that comes down to personal experience as much as anything, and I still drink like a fish regardless.

[millom red]

I have smoked weed and black/solid in the past. Still dont mind a bit of weed if it's about but dont go looking. Rather green(grown naturaly), than black or solid that is enhanced with fuck knows what including tar on import!(the white stuff refered to earlier in green  might be tng not fibre glass oxford fan?)
Never been interested in snorting stuff up my hooter, not my bag.
From a pain relief perspective, had an interesting conversation with an ms sufferer on new years eve, and she said to me that without it, she would not be able to live! And ive known the women for 15 years, and she doesnt drink cos it disagrees with the legally prescribed drugs that the doc gives her.(she's only my age as well, 37)

Millom

[SwindonTartanArmy]

The whole "side effects" argument pisses me off. Take a look at the instructions on every fucking drug available in the chemists. They all have side effects. Including one I saw recently that said, "...in rare cases - Death"

[oxford_fan]

the white stuff refered to earlier in green  might be tng not fibre glass oxford fan?

Never been interested in snorting stuff up my hooter, not my bag.

 do you mean THC!?

Basically they're spraying pretty decent green with artificial crap which, to some, appears to look like crystals (THC - the good stuff) you'd get on the skunk. It is very harmful, as you can tell by the ache on your lungs and coughing up shit. If you smoke the stuff with a filter rather than roach, the filter goes BLACK - yuck.

It's not hard to tell it apart from good green, tap the weed and weird bits will fall off it. Probably glass and godknowswhatelse.

I'm not one for sniffing either, just don't like the feeling of it. Just wack it straight in the mouth.