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« Reply #30 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:26:12 »

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Surprised the investor is an American

They're not


Hmmm, interesting. Are the games beginning or have the board been misinformed?

Fuck knows where they got that from. Made it up, dreamt it, long lunch? Who knows with this lot?


Paul - what is the next stage or, has previously been asked, are we now at an empasse?

We are at a bit of a logjam, yes.  It would appear that despite previous statements re burning leather the current regime are not that interested in securing investment in the club. There's a variety of ways this could go if the current childish obstructionism continues, but I'd still hope that it can be resolved amicably by sitting down sensibly with the Wills family. For the moment, though, I don't think there's a lot to be gained from stooping to the yah-boo-sucks level we're seeing from the board.


Just seems very puzzling, especially given todays official statement - are they trying to secure investment of their own possibly? Waiting for the ground redevelopment perhaps?

it's just difficult for me to understand what the board's position is with this as there doesn't seem to be any direction or intent from them?

Or can someone else enlighten me?
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« Reply #31 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:26:26 »

silly question as im silly but cant the trust deal with diamindis if they have to but when it comes to any legal signings and declarations etc state that it HAS to be sew who actually signs over

or is that just really silly :?
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« Reply #32 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:31:39 »

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By the way, its not me ! Is it you Coxernator ?

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« Reply #33 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:33:37 »

here we go again then. the war with the board and the fans begins all over again. why do the board have to make things difficult? i thought they wanted to sell? im surprised this bloke is American too.
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« Reply #34 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:33:45 »

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Not meaning to sound disrespectful Fred, but if you are involved in this deal and the trust is trying to convey it's professionalism, I hardly think the public arena of a forum is the best place to discuss who the new investor is or isn't and make points to a football club's board.

It's starting to sound like a childs arguement.

And in response to someone else's post, if the statements from the club are to be believed then bank statements are not the most professional means of providing proof of funds.

I'm playing my usual devils advocate role here, but i wouldn't sell a club, if i owned one, for love nor money if the above club statement is to be believed.


Like I have previously said Barry

The Consortium will not get involved in public slanging matches.

It has asked for NDA's to be signed to that end.

Please consider that it is not The Consortium OR The Trust that have issued this statement this morning.

I hasten to add, a statement that is basically innaccurate in the speculation at the source of investment.
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« Reply #35 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 13:58:40 »

Fred you say

"The Consortium will not get involved in public slanging matches."

Please tell us then, who was it that initiated the radio interviews yesterday and has been happily talking to the media in general about how difficult the board are to deal with?

What I really want to know is how the hell did all of this come out into the public domain?

If I was the Board, then I too would have felt obligated to make a public press statement, and if I hadn't, I would expect to be criticised for keeping quiet after so much public vitriole has been aired in the media and on the various forums.
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« Reply #36 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:01:29 »

I love the way the board are basically saying "this isn't a fans consortium as the money man behind it is American and not even a fan..." what did they expect??  Did they think that we the fans would be clubbing together until we saved enough money, or that we were just gonna wait until STFCGazza won the euro millions???
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« Reply #37 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:12:02 »

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If I was the Board, then I too would have felt obligated to make a public press statement, and if I hadn't, I would expect to be criticised for keeping quiet after so much public vitriole has been aired in the media and on the various forums.


At no time have the Trust or The Consortium been vitriolic in any form of the media, merely stating the facts as they present themselves to us.

As for the fans, we do not like being lied to, simple as that.

I have posted elsewhere on this forum the Bob Holt "burning leather" statement, and subsequent statements from STFC/Wills underlines that.

I think the club have tried to call the consortiums bluff and failed. Hence the u turn in todays statement saying they are not actively looking to sell. That is a far cry from "burning leather" if you ask me !

As for the forums, they are open to public debate and that's exactly what happens.
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« Reply #38 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:15:35 »

At best Fred the following is a tad confrontational and was issued to the media: -

"A Trust statement said: “We call on the Wills family to recognise that the current non-football management of the club no longer has any credibility with the fans, and has neither the wherewithal nor the ability to meet the club’s liabilities, much less take the club forward.

“On that basis, we would ask that they set aside those who seem intent on blocking any progress and enter into detailed negotiations with the Fans’ Consortium who have demonstrated that they can take this club forward.”"
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« Reply #39 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:18:22 »

Dear Santa,

For Xmas pleas could I have:

-1 or 2 strikers who can score consistently
-1 hard working midfielder who can pull the strings without getting injured every week
- A swift resolution to all this statement/counter statement crap. I know that this type of stuff goes on in every business, but can you make it so that it happens in the background without Joe Public being aware - Just like in most credible businesses.

Thanks

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« Reply #40 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:25:16 »

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At best Fred the following is a tad confrontational and was issued to the media: -

"A Trust statement said: “We call on the Wills family to recognise that the current non-football management of the club no longer has any credibility with the fans, and has neither the wherewithal nor the ability to meet the club’s liabilities, much less take the club forward.

“On that basis, we would ask that they set aside those who seem intent on blocking any progress and enter into detailed negotiations with the Fans’ Consortium who have demonstrated that they can take this club forward.”"


Look at the facts Mav ;

The board have already stated that they do not have the 1 mill needed to satisfy the June payment of the CVA, nor are they likely to find it, as they were alledgedly pinning their hopes on rasing the capital via the ground redevelopment.

It was stated that the money secured from the sale of both Parkin and Fallon was used to cover the operating loss from last year.

It is now stated that BP's money was used for exactly the same thing.

Now that means that we run at nearly a 2 mill loss !

Take into consideration the revenue from the Adams concert, increased season tickets, shirt sales, gate receipts, Wise/Poyet compo and all of a sudden things really do not add up.

Of course you have an opinion and you should voice that. I respect that.

However to an awaful lot of fans the discrepancies within the finances of the club will not wear anymore
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« Reply #41 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:26:37 »

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At best Fred the following is a tad confrontational and was issued to the media: -

"A Trust statement said: “We call on the Wills family to recognise that the current non-football management of the club no longer has any credibility with the fans, and has neither the wherewithal nor the ability to meet the club’s liabilities, much less take the club forward.

“On that basis, we would ask that they set aside those who seem intent on blocking any progress and enter into detailed negotiations with the Fans’ Consortium who have demonstrated that they can take this club forward.”"

Sounds like fact to me. The board doesnt have any credibility with the fans. And on their own admission, they dont have the funds to run the club.
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« Reply #42 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:28:17 »

as a member of the trust, can i be chairman of the board of stfc when the takeover is complete?
thanks in advance Wink  Cheesy
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« Reply #43 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:30:45 »

I nearly threw my monitor out the window when I saw the club had released another statement.

Anyone fancy going through each individual statement the club have released over the past three months and pointing out the huge contradictions?
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« Reply #44 on: Friday, December 1, 2006, 14:32:18 »

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I nearly threw my monitor out the window when I saw the club had released another statement.

Anyone fancy going through each individual statement the club have released over the past three months and pointing out the huge contradictions?


do you really wat me to answer that ? Wink
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