ANOTHER club statement ...

[Maverick]

You too can have whatever opinions you choose Fred.. but how is this actually moving things forward?

My guess is that whatever happens in the future that is of a positive nature, will be conducted, negotiated and agreed away from the glare of the media.

We can all surmise and express opinions on here, but it would be a wonderful example of professionalism (and as a result confidence inspiring) if all those at the heart of this debacle - i.e. Trust/Consortium/Board representatives all now kept quiet, and only make a statement in the future when there is something positive to say and ideally it can be issued as a joint statement.

[Fred Elliot]

I agree whole heartedly

[sonic youth]

I nearly threw my monitor out the window when I saw the club had released another statement.

Anyone fancy going through each individual statement the club have released over the past three months and pointing out the huge contradictions?

do you really wat me to answer that ?

It'd keep you off the streets for a couple of days mate.

Mav - It's tough because the fans will want to know what's going on, sudden and complete silence from both parties will not seem constructive to the fans. At least with this scenario we're in now, the fans have an idea of what is happening and aren't left in the dark.

[Maverick]

Sonic - perhaps a joint statement on all sides could be issued then that says something along the lines of: -

"Discussions are currently ongoing between STFC and a consortium-led potential investor.  No further statements will be issued on either side until a conclusion has been reached"

That way we all know it is not dead .. but also that it needs to be confidential.

[pauld]

To be fair, Maverick that was tried a few weeks back if you remember with the "end to public slanging matches" agreement and within 72 hours we had a statement from the club slagging off Mike Wilks, the Trust and anyone else within range.

[Maverick]

I realise that pauld but if soemthing is really worthwhile then it is worth trying again and again until it happens.

At least that will clearly mark out the moral high ground!!

[sonic youth]

true... this would be the perfect opportunity for the consortium to take the moral high ground.

Which would amuse me no end!

[Panda Paws]

Statement from the Trust:

"We've decided not to release a statement in response to the club's statement breaking away from the tit-for-tat statement issuing. We will not be issuing another statement saying we're not releasing another statement until the club release another statement. But, if their statement says something bad we might think about releasing a full statement rather than our holding statement stating that we will not release a statement. This has been a non-statement on behalf of the Trust. Thank you"

[Fred Elliot]

Statement from the Trust:

"We've decided not to release a statement in response to the club's statement breaking away from the tit-for-tat statement issuing. We will not be issuing another statement saying we're not releasing another statement until the club release another statement. But, if their statement says something bad we might think about releasing a full statement rather than our holding statement stating that we will not release a statement. This has been a non-statement on behalf of the Trust. Thank you"

       

Ace !!!!!!

[pauld]

Statement from the Trust:

"We've decided not to release a statement in response to the club's statement breaking away from the tit-for-tat statement issuing. We will not be issuing another statement saying we're not releasing another statement until the club release another statement. But, if their statement says something bad we might think about releasing a full statement rather than our holding statement stating that we will not release a statement. This has been a non-statement on behalf of the Trust. Thank you"

Have you placed a bug in the Trust office?  

[Piemonte]

If there are to be more statements can you delay them til monday please? Makes the working week much more interesting

thanks in advance

piemonte

[Summerof69]

Statement from the Trust:

"We've decided not to release a statement in response to the club's statement breaking away from the tit-for-tat statement issuing. We will not be issuing another statement saying we're not releasing another statement until the club release another statement. But, if their statement says something bad we might think about releasing a full statement rather than our holding statement stating that we will not release a statement. This has been a non-statement on behalf of the Trust. Thank you"

Chris,

Do you want to become the Trust new speach writer ?

Nice one.

It's brightened up my Friday afternoon.  

[Nigel Bennett]

Moving on

I was further intrigued, gosh when you really start to sit down and think about things, isn't it revealing. The final three lines of a post from "Arthur  Horsfield" - ( The real one was at the game last week any one see him ? )   Who said this :-

The financial bona fides provided are of a standard type offerd by the Head of Personal Banking for Lloyds Bank London and indicate clearly that the individuals concerned are of financial good standing and would be able to support any deal concluded with the company              

I must admit being a little puzzled by this for several reasons, through personal experience.

Firstly, I would find it extremely unusual for the Head of Personal banking of Lloyds Bank ( can I assume LloydsTsb, rather than Lloyds underwriters of London, or some other institution of which I am not aware) to be providing personally a customer reference. That particular role, ( if it still exists) would be responsible for the strategy within that part of the organisation, rather than having a portfolio with individual customer responsibility.

Secondly, I was puzzled by what the letter actually said during the interview . It would appear that other options such as a note confirming a level of wealth can be discounted as financial organisations do not like issuing letters such as that because of the risk of accusations of fraud or misrepresntation,particularly if lost or stolen. I was going to ask therefore was it a standard credit reference / bankers reference / status report. I think the football club press release  has probably cleared that one up.

So what does that mean - if I remember correctly for bankers references etc
1. Will be unsigned - unless policy has changed
2. It is an opinion only, not a guarantee
3. The response will be given in direct answer to the question posed.

 

If you ask "Is good for normal business transactions"
90% of responses would say "respectable and trustworthy should prove good " or similar. The value of response is only as good as the question in the first place - the enquiry would also normally be made by the person/ organisation with whom you transact the business not by a third party.

A good example woud be perhaps where someone tries to rent a flat and the company would want to know if you are good for the monthly rental .  

Sorry, to go on, but this document appears to be crucial and I would really like to know the real facts and make my mind up on that.  

I am sure those in the "know" will put me right and also let us know the question put to the bank in order for them to give an answer.

The devil is in the detail as is usual I'm afraid and without that knowledge who knows which way to fall.

[normy]

As it is so frustrating not knowing the real facts about the financial situation, we can all make up our own speculations. One from me:
Most of the "lost money" has gone to repay loans to SSW and possibly Willy. This accounts for SSW changing his mind about selling, being now in a no-lose situation where he can either stay and develop the ground, or gain when a credible big investor comes in. If true, he is not to be blamed in my view.
There is no evidence yet that Diamandis and Dunwoody are detrimental to the Club. We are well overdue for a complete audit, and Puffet might come up with something.
Maybe I am naive, but we just do not know enough, time will tell.

[Panda Paws]

Statement from the Trust:

"We've decided not to release a statement in response to the club's statement breaking away from the tit-for-tat statement issuing. We will not be issuing another statement saying we're not releasing another statement until the club release another statement. But, if their statement says something bad we might think about releasing a full statement rather than our holding statement stating that we will not release a statement. This has been a non-statement on behalf of the Trust. Thank you"

Chris,

Do you want to become the Trust new speach writer ?

Nice one.

It's brightened up my Friday afternoon.  

If they offered me a free cup of chips (isn't the County Ground just classy?) at each game I'd write anything they wanted.

Professional writer for hire :-)