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Rich Pullen

« Reply #300 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:20:36 »

Is this 60% limit the reason behind Hartlepool's troubles recently?
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« Reply #301 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:31:23 »

I believe so Rich - think after they got relegated they were quite a way over it, hence they let Boyd and Butler go!

I don't think the Football League allowed them to bring in players again until after we'd played them?
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« Reply #302 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:32:21 »

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do we really need him?


Oh yes. Please believe me, we need him.

How about paying off Whalley's contract so we can say he's not on the pay role any more. Brutal I know but would that work?
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sonic youth

« Reply #303 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:45:55 »

he's got two years left to run on his contract, so it'd be an expensive way of freeing up a percentage of the wage bill.
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #304 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:47:07 »

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he's got two years left to run on his contract, so it'd be an expensive way of freeing up a percentage of the wage bill.


Then surely it has to be Onibuje then?
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« Reply #305 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:49:23 »

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Ince will pay for himself. bums on seats pay wages and we will have more if he signs


agreed.

plus we'll be back up with the championship winning cash!
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« Reply #306 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:52:16 »

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Ince will pay for himself. bums on seats pay wages and we will have more if he signs


agreed.

plus we'll be back up with the championship winning cash!


oops ive deleted that post by accident. but yeah what i mean is that the turnover will increase (hopefully) if Ince signs. therefore will we still be at the 60% wage thingy? if someone has to go i hope it's Gurney could be CCP though
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« Reply #307 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:54:17 »

Is the 60% based on last seasons turnover figure?

If so I wonder if we can argue the point of increased attendances this season, which will take his salary under the cap.

If it is based on last seasons turnover have the accounts been published for that period and where do the league get the figures from?
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« Reply #308 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:55:27 »

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he's got two years left to run on his contract, so it'd be an expensive way of freeing up a percentage of the wage bill.


Then surely it has to be Onibuje then?


But Fola has more to offer than Whalley I would have thought. Yes, I suppose it would be expensive to pay Whalley off but we are in a position to do it unlike last season and it would be worth it in the long run surely?
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« Reply #309 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:56:56 »

Isn't the 60% figure based on last seasons attendances though?

So even if we were getting 10,000 every game now it would make no difference.

I might be wrong though! Tongue
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lebowski

« Reply #310 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 17:59:02 »

they do the budgets for the coming season in advance, so the club will know roughly what they expect the income to be, and 60% of that is what we can afford to spend on wages, i guess...
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Rich Pullen

« Reply #311 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 18:02:59 »

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he's got two years left to run on his contract, so it'd be an expensive way of freeing up a percentage of the wage bill.


Then surely it has to be Onibuje then?


But Fola has more to offer than Whalley I would have thought. Yes, I suppose it would be expensive to pay Whalley off but we are in a position to do it unlike last season and it would be worth it in the long run surely?


Don't disagree with you but unless we sell I can't see any other way. Aaron Brown to be sold? I doubt it.

Surely we knew this ruling one month ago when the Ince news originally broke!?!?!
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« Reply #312 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 18:03:29 »

I feel a TrustSTFC 'fund a player' scheme is on the horizon...
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sonic youth

« Reply #313 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 18:03:47 »

the 60% cap is for players' wages only from what i've read. i'm wondering whether the club will go to the football league explaining that ince is here as primarily a coach but will be registered as a player, as is the case with both wise and poyet.

i'd assume that non-playing staff wages - management/coaches right through to groundsmen and ticket office/club shop employees - do not play any part in the salary cap.

if this is the case, then ince could theoretically sign a 3 year deal as a coach - same as wise and poyet - but register as a player for this season, thus avoiding the salary cap and negating the need to offload anyone.
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« Reply #314 on: Tuesday, August 29, 2006, 18:04:03 »

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they do the budgets for the coming season in advance, so the club will know roughly what they expect the income to be, and 60% of that is what we can afford to spend on wages, i guess...


That would make sense, I wonder if the board will inject a bit of cash to cover the defecit.

Would be a nightmare after all of this time the deal got blown out of the water by the league on the 60% rule.
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