New Stadium

[magnum150]

The last set of proposal hit the buffers, as SBC don't want any more development than on the existing site, the club can't afford anything without developing beyond the site, so its back to the drawing board....

....whether anything will be found on the board apart from some paper and  sliding rulers, is debatable.

 :wall:

Wankers

[pauld]

Does anyone have an update on the stadium. Just this seems to drag and drag on.

 The last set of proposal hit the buffers, as SBC don't want any more development than on the existing site.

That's just not true Reg - as I said at the start of the thread(ish) the last lot of proposals were rejected not because SBC don't want development beyond the existing footprint (they're more than prepared to entertain that) but because they weren't prepared to hand over the surrounding land on the wider CG site for housing without it being paid for at commerical rates. Which is quite different.

[Reg Smeeton]

Does anyone have an update on the stadium. Just this seems to drag and drag on.

 The last set of proposal hit the buffers, as SBC don't want any more development than on the existing site.

That's just not true Reg - as I said at the start of the thread(ish) the last lot of proposals were rejected not because SBC don't want development beyond the existing footprint (they're more than prepared to entertain that) but because they weren't prepared to hand over the surrounding land on the wider CG site for housing without it being paid for at commerical rates. Which is quite different.

  As far as Bart and his question go, it all amounts to the same...throw in Caborn and his statement that  development on sporting facilities would be frowned upon by the regional planning body....and it means no development on the surrounding land.

[STFC Bart]

God Reg you are so damn negative

If it was down to you we would be bust, out of the football league with no hope. Do you work for depressives annonymous

[stfc_steve]

hey sonic youth ur the miserable 1 get a life will u

[Reg Smeeton]

God Reg you are so damn negative

If it was down to you we would be bust, out of the football league with no hope. Do you work for depressives annonymous

 You asked a question I tried out of good manners to provide an answer.

  * Make mental note to self.....file Bart in the mong column....don't bother replying again*

[Piemonte]

You need to speed up your filling system Reg.

[Luci]

Why are there now mongs from thisis on here>?

Do us all a favour and crawl back under the rock you came out of.

(Not you Reg or Pie couldn't be bothered to quote)

[Dazzza]

Talking of Caborn. I thought it was odd that an MP who potentially could be involved with the planning application made a public statement, albeit via Snelgrove, expressing his personal opinion that any application would likely fail.

He was probably right in the context of the original plans but surely even if the club wanted to build a stadium the length and breadth of Bromsgrove as someone on a planning committee he has to judge the case on its merits, or lack of them and reach a decision exclusively on the planning rules and regulations.  Personal opinion doesn’t come into it.

At the end of the day he was probably right in the context of the plans he was discussing but then these plans were as far as I know not officially submitted for scrutiny by planning or the Sports Council and already off the table anyway.

Have Swindon won the race for a Casino yet?  Must be potential in there for a bit of a joint bid.

[pauld]

As I understand it, Caborn made the statement not as an MP (and FWIW MPs aren't involved in planning applications, that's down to the local authority) but in his capacity as Sports Minister, as Sport England have a statutory right to be consulted on all proposed developments which would impact land currently used for sporting purposes. So technically he was just giving a "heads-up" in case anyone was under the misapprehension that the proposals as they then stood would get anywhere. (In fact, he was really providing a PR opportunity for Anne Snelgrove but that's how politics work)

And in case that gets misinterpreted no I'm not having a pop at Anne Snelgrove - her ongoing interest in CG redevelopment and ministerial access may yet prove very important if there are hurdles at national/regional level to be overcome.

I think the Casino thing died a death shortly before the "free wireless broadband for everyone" thing.

[Dazzza]

Even still as a potential ‘consultee’ he is not in a position to go making public statements on an application that has not yet been formally submitted for planning to the local authority.  

If the club had given permission for Snelgrove to take them to Caborn then fair enough but given the time in question what would have been the point post council reaction?

It’s not so much the comments as they are probably spot on, it’s more the whole incident.  If this had have been any other PLC’s development and those involved with the planning/consultation process had offered their opinion publicly, pre-application submission, they would have rightfully been lynched.

I’d have to agree given the time these comments were released it’s nothing short of a grab at some cheap publicity.

[pauld]

Even still as a potential ‘consultee’ he is not in a position to go making public statements on an application that has not yet been formally submitted for planning to the local authority... If this had have been any other PLC’s development and those involved with the planning/consultation process had offered their opinion publicly, pre-application submission, they would have rightfully been lynched.

Fair points - doubt there'd have been actual lynching involved, but it might encourage a greater sense of ministerial responsibility if we brought that back into British politics  

I guess Caborn would say he was trying to save everyone time and expense by pointing out that replacing sporting facilities with housing was a non-starter before they got too far down the track. Not saying it's a good defence, but I'd assume that would be the rationale.

To be fair, he's not made a big a hash of it as Prezza did with Brighton's stadium application!

[SwindonTartanArmy]

Even still as a potential ‘consultee’ he is not in a position to go making public statements on an application that has not yet been formally submitted for planning to the local authority... If this had have been any other PLC’s development and those involved with the planning/consultation process had offered their opinion publicly, pre-application submission, they would have rightfully been lynched.

Fair points - doubt there'd have been actual lynching involved, but it might encourage a greater sense of ministerial responsibility if we brought that back into British politics  

I guess Caborn would say he was trying to save everyone time and expense by pointing out that replacing sporting facilities with housing was a non-starter before they got too far down the track. Not saying it's a good defence, but I'd assume that would be the rationale.

To be fair, he's not made a big a hash of it as Prezza did with Brighton's stadium application!

yeah, but its Brighton which makes it funny.  Wish I had never signed their petition a few years ago! queers!