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« on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 11:15:46 » |
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Does anyone know if there are any plans afoot to stop the naming of blokes up in court on rape charges before they get convicted?
Just reading through the Adver, and noticed there was a cab driver been cleared of it, yet we know his name and address thanks to the current laws.
It's madness that in some cases a whole persons life can be turned upside down, reputations ruined, on the back of just a court case, not a conviction.
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« Reply #1 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 11:18:18 » |
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It is a bit crazy. With sensitive crimes like rape, general kiddy fiddling etc. there should really be annonymity until proven guilty.
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janaage
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« Reply #2 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 11:19:36 » |
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It's a disgrace, that bloke has to live with the shame of that, even though he was proven not guilty, whilst the female who made the apparently flase allegations remains un-named. This government should sort this out.
According to reports last week the government are taking steps to lock up more blokes, they are concerned at the lack of not guilty verdicts so they will change the law to make it easier to prove rape.
Soon enough you will need to ask the female to sign a consent form as men shouldn't have sex with women who have been drinking. No one is concerned about the drunk fella who wakes up to frankenstein's monster in the morning though.
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« Reply #3 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 11:25:35 » |
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I would like to know what u have to do to get away with a caution. see some bitch knocked over my pint the other day......
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« Reply #4 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 11:58:12 » |
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There was a bloke that got charged for raping a 13 year old in Westbury, and before I'd read in the papers and realised that he lives very near to me. On the same road. A week or so later, they printed his name in the paper and I found out he used to be my friends old music teacher and on various occasions I had walked past him when walking back from school :?
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« Reply #5 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:01:26 » |
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He was charged for it, but was it proven that he did it?
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« Reply #6 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:03:45 » |
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being accused of/charged with is different to being convicted of, that's the difference many people seem incapable of realising, preferring instead to jump to conclusions because that's how the sensationalist media portrays things.
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« Reply #7 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:07:29 » |
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Including the Government SY.
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« Reply #8 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:08:47 » |
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He got charged yeah. Thank god. Don't want the dirty bastard round here. Makes me sick.
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« Reply #9 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:10:48 » |
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He got charged yeah. Thank god. Don't want the dirty bastard round here. Makes me sick. that's precisely the point i was trying to make was he charged? was he convincted? did he go to prison for it? were the accusations dropped? |
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« Reply #10 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:14:16 » |
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Charged does not mean he actually did it Sade.
I could accuse Sonic of raping my arse, if the police believed me and Sonic didn't have enough evidence in the way of an alibi, there's a chance he would be charged for it.
Then the prosection service would look into my allegations and decide whether to go ahead with the prosection.
Doesn't make him a dirty bastard, it would just make me, the un-named one, a lying bastard.
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« Reply #11 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:22:22 » |
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Someone on Crimewatch last week got beaten and raped as he was (wrongly) accused of being a peadophile. His life has now been unfairly ruined.
Not sure if this was because his name and address had been made public, but still!
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« Reply #12 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:26:09 » |
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I can see what your all saying, and I suppose that if you look into it alot nobody really should be unfairly untreated if they have been accused of something as nobody really knows if they actually did or not. However, for people in my town it was instinct to think 'pervert' 'rapist', especially in a town like this where its happened before. But I can see what your trying to say now. Its clicked  |
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« Reply #13 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:29:24 » |
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Charged does not mean he actually did it Sade.
I could accuse Sonic of raping my arse, if the police believed me and Sonic didn't have enough evidence in the way of an alibi, there's a chance he would be charged for it.
Then the prosection service would look into my allegations and decide whether to go ahead with the prosection.
Doesn't make him a dirty bastard, it would just make me, the un-named one, a lying bastard. Nah, no smoke without fire. lock sonic away me thinks. |
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« Reply #14 on: Tuesday, April 11, 2006, 12:35:02 » |
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I can see what your all saying, and I suppose that if you look into it alot nobody really should be unfairly untreated if they have been accused of something as nobody really knows if they actually did or not. However, for people in my town it was instinct to think 'pervert' 'rapist', especially in a town like this where its happened before. But I can see what your trying to say now. Its clicked but that's wrong, whether instinctive or not. whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? was that ever actually true or am i being naive? it's invariably a case of guilty unless proven innocent now, which is a horrible aspect of human nature. where's that bottle of paracetamol? |
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