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I'll be honest, the press conference is not good.

https://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/23358381.swindon-town-press-conference-updates-ahead-leyton-orient-away/

- No defender in before the weekend, goalposts moved on one target (Mariappa?)
- Ellis is struggling to be fit, probably not this weekend
- Brennan is out for a while
- Brand might not happen at all now

"Marcel Lavinier took part in the majority of the ball work today. He's made big strides this week, but we lost one at the weekend and another in the week. So we're in the minuses again.

No one else is back. I think it's fair to say not everyone will be playing in their natural positions on Saturday."

Away to top of the league with about 15 defenders injured. It would be a good point, wouldn't it?

It sounds like Tomlinson might play CB with Clayton with Lavinier at LB? Christ we're going to be patched together.

Backs against the wall coconut shy.

Then they get a player sent off and implode.

Charlie falls over in the box ala Bamber and the pen is slotted home in the 89th for an ill deserved 1 zip and we all start hoping again.

Does say much for Minturn if he is the only fit CB at the club but still can’t get a game!

:(
Is Clayton out as well now FFS? Or did you mean one of the two fit CBs?

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Is Clayton out as well now FFS? Or did you mean one of the two fit CBs?

No, I classed Clayton as a CB/DM. That was how he was originally touted.

How pissed off did he sound anyone?

Sounds quite annoyed from the quotes, will have to wait for the LS Pod presser to drop to know for sure on his mood/tone.

Side note, the usual away pub The Leyton Technical is closed now.

I see the games a full sell out now. Amazing what momentum can do in football- just last December when we played them the crowd was 4,020 (with just 3,065 home fans). Hopefully we can spoil their big day.

I take it you mean for Town fans? how many were we allocated?

Feels like a big week or two for the admin side of the club. Fingers crossed everything drops into place.

1-1 wasn’t it?

Where are people heading for a pint before the game? Last time I went to Orient away I don't recall much going in, I know Westfield shopping centre is around a 15-20 min walk which has loads of bars opposite West Ham's stadium - hotel football being one!

From an Orient fan -

'Best place to drink is the Supporters’ Club, who are happy to allow a limited number of away fans in. Cost you a quid each but you’ll save that on the first pint. Multiple CAMRA awards, both London-wide and even national. Twelve or so beers on tap at a time. Can’t beat it.'

Also -

'If you've got time I'd check out Hackney Wick before/after Leyton, 25ish min walk or a quick bus/overground. Loads of good places for a drink and a bite on/around the canal. Recommend Crate Brewery if you fancy a beer and a pizza. Orient away is one of the best away days in the country for me as you can do the old skool boozers closer to the ground and then full go on East London hipster as well. Enjoy!'

Listening to the Pod now, they're (half jokingly) talking about whether Morris is going to walk. Describing him as exasperated rather than furious though.

Feels like a big week or two for the admin side of the club. Fingers crossed everything drops into place.

The tone definitely seemed laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. He's clearly pissed off as we all are, but I didn't get the sense he would potentially be walking like I did when I read the words on the screen.

From an Orient fan -

'Best place to drink is the Supporters’ Club, who are happy to allow a limited number of away fans in. Cost you a quid each but you’ll save that on the first pint. Multiple CAMRA awards, both London-wide and even national. Twelve or so beers on tap at a time. Can’t beat it.'

Also -

'If you've got time I'd check out Hackney Wick before/after Leyton, 25ish min walk or a quick bus/overground. Loads of good places for a drink and a bite on/around the canal. Recommend Crate Brewery if you fancy a beer and a pizza. Orient away is one of the best away days in the country for me as you can do the old skool boozers closer to the ground and then full go on East London hipster as well. Enjoy!'

The tone definitely seemed laughing at the ridiculousness of it all. He's clearly pissed off as we all are, but I didn't get the sense he would potentially be walking like I did when I read the words on the screen.

Does say much for Minturn if he is the only fit CB at the club but still can’t get a game!

If Lavinier and Hutton are both fit, we're struggling for CBs and we need to keep it tight, I'd be tempted to start both with Hutton right midfield. Also


                                                               Brynn


                                     Lavinier     Clayton     Minturn     Tomlinson


                                  Hutton              Kadji          McEachran        Cain


                                                       Wakeling       Austin


Still on the makeshift side, but seems better than a lot of our options.

Or could start Kadji at CB instead of Minturn and play Cain in the middle with Wakeling out wide and RHM or Jephcott starting.

MacDonald- contract ripped up

Is Williams injured?

Try Jephcott at centre half you just never know.......

MacDonald- contract ripped up

A reverse Antoine van Der Linden? Kingy would be proud of you! (Despite Jephcott not being that good in the air)

..................................They dismantled us last season with ease at Brisbane Road 4-1 yet in the home game this term looked a decent side and a bit better than us at the time but nothing exceptional IMO in the 1-1 draw.

Wow.... is this a new rumour?

I'd need to scan through twitter to find it again, but someone posed a query about why we tore up McDonald's contract and allowed him to join Aberdeen for (what I assume is) nada. I've already mentioned that given how tight Sandro seems to be, letting an asset and your club captain tear up his 2 year deal and get nothing in return for him suggests something has happened. I wonder whether the true story will ever rear it's head.  

It would possibly explain the clubs actions and silence a bit more but who knows. I did try a search on Twitter for 'the ladies of Swindon' but that just seemed to throw up a load of Rachael Swindon posts and I didn't want that!

I'd need to scan through twitter to find it again, but someone posed a query about why we tore up McDonald's contract and allowed him to join Aberdeen for (what I assume is) nada. I've already mentioned that given how tight Sandro seems to be, letting an asset and your club captain tear up his 2 year deal and get nothing in return for him suggests something has happened. I wonder whether the true story will ever rear it's head.  

Probably the rearing of the head was the problem!

Probably the rearing of the head was the problem!

I don't think they know how many injuries we have as they seem a little nervous about this one.

https://lofcforum.boards.net/thread/12984/looking-ahead-swindon-4-2023

I'm not gonna tell 'em!

I'm not gonna tell 'em!

Which pub are people going to pre match?

Which pub are people going to pre match?

Peter Venkman molests frogs

"Nemo" sleeps with the fishes.

First libel, now death threats!

From what I've seen b4 the Harrogate game, Swindon play it around a lot but don't do much with it.
They make lots of mistakes especially in midfield and also leave big gaps in defence.
Forget the name, we're a much better team than them. They do have Charlie Austin though.
If we really go for it I don't see them coping too well.
I haven't seen their full games, just extended highlights.
And they beat Salford with an OG. Salford looked the better team.

Looking at Swindon's results suggests they blow very hot and very cold, not much in between. Their last 5 games went L L L W W.  Which Swindon will arrive on Saturday?  They are 4 points off the play-offs so they have plenty to play for.  I guess there's a little extra spice due to RW's connections there although I think he'd give his right arm to win away at Salford.

I think you’re being a bit optimistic saying they blow hot and cold Fisch. I see it as a couple of weeks ago they were blowing cold but lately they’re blowing hot with 2 wins in a row and they’re coming smelling blood.

Swindon have got some tough fixtures in March and they would do us a favour if they played well against Carlisle and Stockport, but don't cause us any problems. May have won their last two, but the Salford win was fortunate according to some on their forum and Harrogate are in deep trouble.
So looking forward to this one, expecting them to try to hit us on the break, but if we play to our potential, then we should pick up three points.

I'm s***ting a brick over this one, they're gonna muller us big time

Why would you think that we gave them a football lesson at their place and they were lucky to get a draw

I was at that game we was mustard then, I gota feeling in me water about this game and I don't like it, had that feeling for Wimbledon, Northampton Stevenage. was at all three and we got mullard good and proper.

Im also really nervous, about this game, and about us being promoted. Until we are mathmatically promoted, this anxiety will continue. If any club could screw this up from our position, it will be Leyton Orient

I think Saturday will be one of the hardest games of the season and will be a draw or even a defeat ☹️ , I'm 100% sure we will finish top 3 but there will still be a few dodgy performances on the way 🤔

Even if we were to lose ( and Swindon are not the force they have been), 4 wins from the remaining games should still see us with enough points for auto promotion.

It's not as if we find life easy against anyone so it's no surprise that every week even the humblest opposition fill me with apprehension.

Nothing to fear people, chill out the players have this covered.

Don’t panic too much cos we’ll still be champions by a country mile even if we do lose go and put a nice few quid on Swindon to win you can get 3/1.Good luck with that

From their managers preview they have serious defensive problems with injuries . They have tried to get in a central defender who is without a club but he turned them down.A lot of their players were unable to train yesterday so he will not know who can play until the day.

I do hope you're right, whilst I think we will be promoted and as champions, my bet was for us to be champions, it wont pay out for a place , top dog or bust, this game has my tiddley tum in a knot, so much injury in their team, not doing as well in the league as us, we are at home with a sell out crowd again, it points to Swindon scoring early on and we camp in there half for rest of game and lose 0-1, call the vet put me down?

I always reckon injury issues to other teams very often result in an outstanding performance from those covering.
That said, we should have enough to beat an understrength side, self inflicted errors aside.

I'm s***ting a brick over this one, they're gonna muller us big time

There is simply nothing more representative of the average lower league football fan than being convinced you're going to get smashed at home by a mid-table team with an injury crisis even whilst your team are pissing the league.

Thats not libelous. :) ask RedFrog.

There is simply nothing more representative of the average lower league football fan than being convinced you're going to get smashed at home by a mid-table team with an injury crisis even whilst your team are pissing the league.

Sounds like I’ll need my frog’s legs for running today.

Mate, to outrun me you just need legs!

Fuck knows what that formation is.

Devine and Minturn start, wow. I think it's three at the back, but it could be anything

                     Brynn
Devine Tomlinson Clayton Minturn Hutton
         McEachran Kadji Williams
                RHM Austin

The most defensive player on the bench is probably Tyrese Shade :D

wouldn't devine start on left and hutton right?

Never been any good at laying out right and left on these things, think I do that every time I try and put a teamsheet together. It's not complex or anything, I've just got a mental block about it...

Having hardly seen Devine, unsure who the most Defensive LB out of home and Tomlinson?

He looked ok in his one pointless cup appearance this season but for Walsall against us last season his defending was horrific.

                                                          Brynn
        minturn                                              Clayton    Devine
  Hutton                           kadji.                                                                     tomlinson
              RHM                    mcEachran                                         williams
                                                                           austin


but with more even spacing :)

Never been any good at laying out right and left on these things, think I do that every time I try and put a teamsheet together. It's not complex or anything, I've just got a mental block about it...

sorry Nemo, was just jesting.

it's weird how seemingly simple things once stuck in your head are hard to undo.

With me it's usually names. e.g. it took me years to get Garth Crooks and Garth Brooks the right way round.

Never been any good at laying out right and left on these things, think I do that every time I try and put a teamsheet together. It's not complex or anything, I've just got a mental block about it...

sorry Nemo, was just jesting.

it's weird how seemingly simple things once stuck in your head are hard to undo.

With me it's usually names. e.g. it took me years to get Garth Crooks and Garth Brooks the right way round.

As we’re on about frogs

https://twitter.com/oterrifying/status/1631905142021963776?s=61&t=HYPly50GSEZLTKzNdaNp7Q

🤣Garth Crooks singing If "Tomorrow Never Comes"

WTF is going on with our fitness levels.

Brynn

Hutton
Minturn
Clayton
Devine

Williams
Kadji
McE

RHM
Austin
Tomlinson


…is what I’m going for line up wise

I thought our sports science/fitness team were second to none.

I assume we are really unlucky or Sandro sold them

Sky app has us in a 433

Brynn

Hutton
Clayton
Kadji
Devine

Williams
Tomlinson
McE

Minturn
Austin
RHM

If Minturn is playing up front I will eat my own testicle!

How would you like it served?

Town with a 23.4 years old average age! and bearing in mind Austin is 33 thats incredibly young.

Grant on co-comms, rather than at CB as briefly rumoured last week...

Shame as I think we’ve started fairly well, just to be undone from a set piece. Ah well.

I thought we have started pretty poorly TBH one or 2 breaks but its been all Orient so far.

they look miles better

That's because they are!

It's quite odd seeing us counter attacking, but I like it.

Had enough of Grant’s brand of “commentary” for today.

When you have a defensive unit of Brynn, Kadji, McEachran, Minturn, Tomlinson, Hutton, Devine & Clayton with a combined league appearance total of under 220 games we are performing pretty much above what we should be. 

If you include RHM then it 250 1st team appearances between 8 players combined.

Take out Hutton and that is just 150 1st team games between 7 players.

I'm shocked it's that high to be honest.

McEachran taken out by the referee there.

I'm shocked it's that high to be honest.

Maths slip up on that I think - your list is 8, including RHM takes it to 9 - only Austin and Williams have played many games.

And highlights what a mess Ralph has made. How he hadn’t been got rid of yet is beyond me.

Devine has looked decent so far

Oh Jonny..

Usual suspects still banging on about Sandro. Give it a rest you incessantly boring cunts.

The Orient commentary team seem to suggest that they are being hard done by and that every challenge is a foul by the Swindon player - they also don't rate Brynn and suggest he has looked uncomfortable for every save..  strange

Impressed that LO have done pre-match and HT match chat though on Ifollow - would be good if other teams followed suit with this..

I think the Salford (might have been Sutton) Comms were less than complimentary about Brynn too under similar circumstances - didn't do a lot wrong.

dunno what we're missing

Good first half but need to be shooting more at this suspect goalie. May need more goals to see this one in the bag.

And for those of us not listening on the away comms, what might that be?

Best chant that half: they’re here, they’re there, they’re every fucking where, empty seats, empty seats.

Good block by Tomlinson in the box, we cant deal with the long throw ins.

There do seem to be quite a lot of empty seats for a sold out game. Is the bar queue long?

For a sell out there are many empty seats.

Or corners or any sort of ball into the box

Was that a ‘we want Sandro out’ chant?

Tomlinson is utterly wasted at left CB, rather he played as a fullback or winger so he can affect the game more.

With Devine off and Wakeling it’s the perfect chance to try and go 433

dustbin for Devine

Devine did really well right up to the innevitable injury.

What position does dustbin play?

Has Vigs actually had a save to make for Orient, sounds like he may as well have the day off

Holding hamstring. Wonder whether this will be a reoccurring theme.

Tomi, Tomi, Tomi

Has Vigs actually had a save to make for Orient, sounds like he may as well have the day off

Well, this has been a dreadful second half. Unsure how we’re still in it

Our performance has a huge element of damage limitation about it.

Blow the whistle ref!

Dark arts Pratley coming on for them

Nasty foul on RHM then. Yellow for the big lump.

Apparently RHM made a meal of it according to the home comms :D

Orient have gone really quite physical with the long throws into the box, and to be honest I'm not sure that it suits them, they were outplaying us fairly comfortably when they were laying football.

Its not something Wellens has employed previously, it doesnt seem to suit their players at all really as you say.

Feel like a plan based on exploiting our weaknesses, rather than building on their strengths.

Crawley losing against 10 men - sounds familiar

Well done Swindon a gutsy performance.

🤣🤣🤣

"apparently Brett Pittman is the leading goalscorer in Europe" (Hodgetts)

"What's he playing in, the blind league". Anthony Grant

"The less I say about Brett Pitman the better"

So, all these players being lauded - and rightly so - were Sandra’s spreadsheet signings. Sure, we fucked up a couple with admin cock ups but this squad, if added to in the summer, will storm L2 next season.

Devine definitely done hamstring proper (usually 6 weeks imo)

we seem to have an 'out and our centre back' coming in  but Morris wouldn't say for fear of putting his foot in it with club

It will be Brewitt.

Devine has no luck does he. Poor fucker.

No he doesn't... He looked really good today...

looked just outside to my ifollow eyes wobbly.

anti  Sandro chants? didn't hear them on TV

Williams and Austin both off the pace a bit today.

Agree 100% about away side facilities having the catering and toilets opposite each other so that the two queues merge into a scrum doesn’t work when a big away following turns up. At HT some folks I spoke to said they had to stand in the gangways first half because they couldn’t get to empty seats.
A well earned point on the pitch - I feared the worst when we conceded from an early set piece.
Orient are a decent team with players who are comfortable on the ball. Like most top of the table teams they also deploy the darker arts cleverly when required.
Overall we restricted their chances despite  the youthful defence.
We hung in the game, then  Wakeling took his chance well and I thought we would snatch it at the end.
The low point of the day for me was several minutes of idiots chanting “Sandro out” - rather than getting behind the team. It’s not helpful for the players.

I agree and would say the same about the 'your support is fucking shit' chants.

Firstly, don't worry about the opposition, focus on your own team. Secondly, it's not true. Their support wasn't shit.

At least Wellens was remembered for his time here.

From the Orient forum

My take on the game for what it’s worth I thought first half every time we went forward it looked like we would score they were all over the place but I thought we overplayed it too often they were dangerous on the break but mostly when we made mistakes and allowed them in Sadlier Theo and Idris were all very good first half and we should have been out of sight.Once they scored they had something to hang on to and that’s what they did.Their support was excellent and they gave RW a standing ovation at the end a draw still keeps us well clear at the top and Carlisle have a terrible few games coming up and will drop points

Wellens post match
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=I6w6FbOWJmo

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https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8tjaK-f0uR4

And Hutton and Tomlinson. So frustrating at times how often this happens, our more experienced players don;t turn up. What a performance from the young lads today though

Hutton has gone off the boil since the window.

Away support sounded great on the radio but It will take a monumental effort and alot of luck to make the play offs with so many teams above us in form.

The away support was absolutely phenomenal, especially considering that it's been a pretty mediocre season to say the least with what looks like just an outside chance of getting in the play offs. It was great for Clem to see that, so he can see he's not wasting his time and money and will be able to imagine what it would be like if we were to actually mount a challenge. Equally, the numbers we've been getting for home games have been unbelievable...

Hutton has gone off the boil since the window.

Tomlinson is 22 and has not many league games under his belt. Thought he did well today out of position.
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Austin just isn't getting the service he needs. Just like Jephcott wasn't. Difficult up top on your own m

RHM did well. As did devine

of the even younger youngsters Minturn did well for his first game. kadji was ok but at fault for the goal.

On the Hutton thing, I kind of agree, though don't think he has been bad. I do think people underestimate the effect of gladwin there. He made such a difference to where Hutton recieved the ball and the type of ball he had.

This game is going to split opinions. I didn’t think we were very good. I said at half time that Swindon would score and the praise in the first half was overdone. Swindon had half a team missing and barely any recognised defenders.

Swindon. 6. I think the commentators said all of their subs were forward players. Defence looked petrified from minute 1 and to only score from a set piece shows we didn’t play well. Others may see it differently. Most of the chasing pack won. It’s squeaky bum time.

I didn’t know about the Swindon defence being a bunch of rookies but that just adds to what I was going to say:
Today is another example where if we had someone who could actually score, we’d have grabbed the second goal for a 2 goal cushion and then you have a completely different game on your hands. This isn’t a dig at Drinan but it says a lot that at 1-1, top of the table and we’re pushing for a winner, the attacking player we bring on makes me think we’re actually less likely to score now.

So dominant in 1st half, 9 corners
But never looked like scoring from open play, final pass was poor.

Their back 4 was pretty bad first half Their no 5 was no taller than 5ft 5inches. Somehow they got stronger in the 2nd half particularly after scoring . We seemed to have. No idea how to break down their defence. They bought on a very pace winger who scored. Spoke to one of their supporters after who thought that was the best they had played for a long time.

It was an enjoyable game, both teams trying to play football, Swindon dangerously so.
As weak as they were at the back (even Kelman and Ruel were winning headers FFS), it wasn't until Drinnan come on that we started physically dominating them.

I thought that was the first opposition midfield this season to at least match us. McEacheran was lively and so was the old Welsh boy until he went off.

Pretty good first half performance but yet again we fail to convert chances and Swindon, quick on the break, are not out of this by any means.

Throws, crosses, corners.  Staggering amount against a shaky back line and stuff all to show for it.  Our weakness in the number 9 area is plain to see.  Our football is pretty.  But oh for a decent leader of the attack.

Disappointed. 2 points lost (again).

They scored with their first chance on goal

Yet when they went forward they looked likely to create chances.  Said before they scored they were likely too on the break.  Not hard to see their tactics.  We were mugged.  Typical away performance.  Defend well and hit on the break.  Having said that, their defence was a shambles and the keeper poor but still good enough to stifle us which is the real insult.

Frustrating that it should have been three points though.

My take on the game for what it’s worth I thought first half every time we went forward it looked like we would score they were all over the place but I thought we overplayed it too often they were dangerous on the break but mostly when we made mistakes and allowed them in Sadlier Theo and Idris were all very good first half and we should have been out of sight.Once they scored they had something to hang on to and that’s what they did.Their support was excellent and they gave RW a standing ovation at the end a draw still keeps us well clear at the top and Carlisle have a terrible few games coming up and will drop points

I think James is in the team for his attacking threat.  All the Swindon chances chosen for the highlights came down his side and he seems to be struggling for pace.

Brynn was rock solid and has been whenever I've seen him play this season...

What a day. Can’t beat London away days. Thought we was doing fine till their goal, same old shite - header/cross and we concede 😭. Couple times thought we coulda converted half chances in first half to a goal. Devine great going forward but the orient winger had his number I thought, defensively weak but give him some slack. Minturn done well, hope he goes from strength to strength at this club - local lad in the spine of team would be great. Kadji useless. Not in game, weak, doesn’t tackle and poor passing. Poor signing I feel. Seems too raw atm. RHM put himself ahout and did the running of two upfront, Austin anonymous today. Wakeling brilliant. Sandro out chants were loud enough.Good number chanting it - Fans brilliant entire game  - best we’ve got behind team all season, very noisy away end, was electric at times. Mountain to climb and an unreal run of form needed for Play offs. Hope Morris sticks with us and we back him properly with proper squad next season

Final point I guess you couldn't ignore the Sandro chants. Rob Angus was a few rows in front of me and his reaction was interesting. He definitely looked uncomfortable and raised his eyebrows, but it was difficult to tell if it was a 'Really?' type reaction or a 'yeah I get where you are coming from' reaction. Either way, he heard it that's for sure.

How do you know what his eyebrows were doing if he was sat a few rows in front of you, doe he have a neck like an Owl?  ;) :D

Couple of pretty rotten set pieces from McEachran so far, who has been really good at them up until now so hopefully not a sign of things to come.

Orient look ominously good, really quite a lot better than most of the teams we've played before now. It's going to be a long, hard afternoon here.

I’m happy to quoted as wrong after the match is over but I’m expecting nothing less than a thrashing this afternoon.

Oh that reminds me. We did look to be quite creative with our set pieces on Saturday. Almost all of them weren't very well executed, but it did appear that we had done a fair bit of work on the training pitch to try and do something different from set plays. The corner where it was flicked on by Willo at the near post was probably the best executed one, but I think you can definitely see that we are trying to take away our one-dimensionalness from corners and free kicks.

Welcome bit more pragmatism from Morris

Flying results wise, but performances have apparently been average.

Looking at the next four fixtures they’re all winnable. Two home, Carlisle and Stockpot who happen to be above us and two away, Warsaw and Rochdale. 12 Points out of 12 would be a stunning coup and propel right back into the mix for autos.

Looking at the next four fixtures they’re all winnable. Two home, Carlisle and Stockpot who happen to be above us and two away, Warsaw and Rochdale. 12 Points out of 12 would be a stunning coup and propel right back into the mix for autos.

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

It is a bit on the optimistic side, especially as the previous two games (before Orient) we’re the first consecutive wins since October

Carlisle are the 2nd favourites and the 2nd place side in L2 for a reason, they will be very very hard to beat and a draw would still probably be considered a good result, similar with Stockport who thrashed us  4-0 and also grabbed a draw up there with 10 men earlier in the season.

If by a huge stretch of the imagination we could get 2 wins vs them and pick up some away points we would be in a very healthy position.

IMO 5 points from the next 4 games is more likely.

Yes it is. Go big or go home. Every game has to be viewed as winnable. What’s the point in playing or supporting? I doubt many fans had any money on us getting a result on Saturday also but I’ll wager Morris sent those boys out believing they could get something from a fixture that screamed home win.

We are running out of games now so even a point at home to Carlisle would be a decent one, ok, not the win I’m looking for but that extends the unbeaten run to four games, with the exception of Harrogate the other three would have been seen as ‘quality’ L2 opponents.

Glass half full or half empty?

Actually it didn't scream home win as I pointed out on about page 3 of the discussion. Orients record against those in the top half of the table has been iffy for months. A draw was definitely doable.

Ah. I'll delete then. Though your post will still quote me, so I'll still look stupid. Unless you delete your post too, and we can all move on.

Fully condone the Sandro out chants, complimented perfectly with pro-Morris and supporting the team songs.

We're told the budget has gone up, and we're no longer in embargo- so why do we have a considerably weaker team than last year? Dont know how it ended with Chorley- but good god what i'd give to have him back. Having Morris in charge with Sandro sourcing the players is like giving Lewis Hamilton a clapped out Corsa and telling him to go win the race.

Hes a nobody in football, Wigan fans have barely heard of him and he's stunk the place out across 2 windows and 2 managerial appointments- get him gone.

Yes it is. Go big or go home. Every game has to be viewed as winnable. What’s the point in playing or supporting? I doubt many fans had any money on us getting a result on Saturday also but I’ll wager Morris sent those boys out believing they could get something from a fixture that screamed home win.

We are running out of games now so even a point at home to Carlisle would be a decent one, ok, not the win I’m looking for but that extends the unbeaten run to four games, with the exception of Harrogate the other three would have been seen as ‘quality’ L2 opponents.

Glass half full or half empty?

What post?  ;)

Lovely, but stop quoting me as the stupid still stays!  :cry:

we seem to have an 'out and our centre back' coming in  but Morris wouldn't say for fear of putting his foot in it with club

It will be Brewitt.

Stupid?

Shh, goddammit.