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Another big game, hopefully we arent too tired after 120 mins and pens on Saturday.

A draw would be good.

Colchester have kept 2 clean sheets in a row and only 1 defeat in the last 6 DLDDWD.

Town have only beaten then 2 times in the last 11 meetings and 3 wins in the last 20 meetings, Town havent won away ay Colchester in the last 7 games between us.

As we know Colchester have several ties with Swindon on the playing staff with Jack Payne, Ellis Iandolo, Mandela Egbo and Rob Hunt in their squad.

To state the obvious, they win they are eight points ahead. We aren't into "must win", but it sure feels like a must not lose even if mathematically that's rubbish.

I think we are in must win territory now.
Only picking up 1 point from Accrington & Morecambe was not good enough.
A draw would obviously give us a return of 2 points from the run of Accrington, Morecambe & Colchester. That simply isn’t good enough either. That’s relegation form against the teams in & around you.

I’d even argue a win giving us 4 points from those 3 games isn’t even adequate

I’ve cut the team & Holloway some slack because he’s still getting his feet under the table. We need to be past that stage now.

I’ll go as far as to say; if we don’t win this game we are down.

The bookies would seem to agree with you, when things started to look shitty I put a wager on our relegation, as my betting record is abysmal I often do this to try and encourage and alternative outcome, looking at it the morning the cash out they are offering me is already higher than the stake I placed.....

We're fucked I think.

We've been fucked for ages, all inevitable now.

Hard to argue against that in isolation.

My biggest worry, again obvious, is that the gap to lower mid table is sizeable. There are teams we can pull into this battle but we must stop losing ground in the next few games.

We need someone above us to fall apart like we did last season!

We are in last season territory of needing two teams to be worse than us, unfortunately I don’t think (currently) there are any

I have a feeling this is going to be another of those games where we come unstuck in the last minute. Either a highly frustrating 1-0 or a 2-1 defeat.

They're all must win now. Any wins we get is doing to be massive.

Let's hope we can carry on the run of shit managers getting wins at grounds we never win at.

Ha ha!!

Been there about 5 times now and lost every single fucking one of them!

https://youtu.be/xeKQXTM8edc?si=D_CfjEBufl-tUf63

Christ! That was a difficult listen.

What did we learn from it? Bignot is 50!

Also, it’s a bit odd that he infers he hasn’t been there long. Well, he has! He was part of the poor first part of the season!

Interesting he is doing the preview, manager on a day off is he?

He is useless

Wonder what numbers Holloway is gonna pick out the hat today? I predict a start for Cotterill 🙂

With Butterball suspended for 3 games I think he will got for Cotterill as hes more attack minded than Ofoborh, even though I would pick Offy every day of the week.

Poor Jacxon Brown in goal this week because he played there in training

Awful management of him the other week

Pre match getting the drowning of sorrows in early in The Playhouse.

Colchester itself is fine, plenty of opportunities to attain a state of advanced refreshment, it's the ground location that's the problem.
Good for the step count though.

This did used to be a happy hunting ground between Dec 2011 - Apr 2018 with 4 wins & 2 draws in 6 visits.
Nada in the 6 visits since apart from the hard fought draw against 9 men.

Can't see a win tonight and as it stands we're done.
Although a free weekend followed by a game against a team that just played the majority of 120 minutes with 10 isn't necessarily a big advantage as playing is better than twiddling the thumbs.

A marginal improvement under Holloway that hasn't been enough to start winning games & a much of a muchness squad where there isn't that much difference between those playing and those sitting it out.

Holloway may yet be able to forge a dogs or war type spirit where a mediocre group are able to get results and there is still time to do that.

11 goals for in 6 games in all comps isn't too bad. 12 goals against is bad and needs fixing.

A steady decline and little reason for hope for the future tends to breed a mix of indifference, anger, resentment with a bit of spite thrown in.
A cocktail of all of those is sloshing around inside me in addition to the ales.

It won't happen but sacking Holloway after game no 999, if there still haven't been any wins in the league, would cause much mirth.
It is an emergency after all.

Venimus, vidimus, amisimus.

Always love your write ups Wobbly but I have to ask... at what God forsaken hour did you leave home this morning to be in the pub in Colchester by 10.30?? Assuming you're Swindon based or thereabouts... and how are you still going to be standing at kick off?

You going to your local game tonight mate?

Yes mate. I would have popped along to the Playhouse and bought WB a pint but I've got too much to do prior to kick off unfortunately... second actual live game of the season, the only other being the debacle that was Walsall (h)...

On the 06:18 out of Swindon.
Would have been in Colchester for 9am if not for a heavy tumble at Paddington so missed the connection.
Sustained some damage but it's all good fun.

Can spread the beers out across the day & still retain the faculties.
Sinking 5 or 6 in 2 or 3 hours would be a struggle.

6.18!?!?! Bloody hell mate, you are truly a legend 👍😆🍻

Hope you're OK...

Fair play, that is some commitment.  I hope that Town give you something tonight that was worth getting on the 06:18 from Swindon this morning.  Other than that, I hope the beer is good.

Agree with you with Colchester, nothing wrong with the town itself, it is just the football stadium that I cannot stand.  I think it is up there for me in my top 3 worst grounds.

Always found the Stewards at Colchester a nice bunch, unlike the mob at the Town. Grounds ok but so far out of town and Colchester pulled the free bus a few years back.

Done it four or five times and lost every fucking one of them.....so im staying away.

We need a break and some luck, lets have it tonight please!

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Predictable.

Wingbacks… 2 CMs again… Tshimanga undroppable. I really fucking hate Holloway.

You could debate a few but I think he’s probably picked the best players available for the game. They may be knackered from Saturday though. Let’s see how it goes…

Expect our midfield to get absolutely walked through. I miss the days when we actually had a midfield. 

I make that 4 outfield players who played the full 120 on Saturday,  will be interesting to see how they cope today

Hall and Delaney played a full 90 as well, which given their injury record is probably a bit of a worry they're starting again

Egbo, Iandolo, Payne starting today and  Hunt on the bench.

Makes you wonder if certain players aren’t starting because they want to minimise the chances of them getting injured before flogging them off in January.

Can't think of any other reason Tshimanga starts every game to be honest. On the other hand if he really is any good,he needs to show it tonight

WTF - why the hell doesn't he replace that waste of space Tshimanga with Ofboroh to give us a midfield !  :badmood:

I don't see anything in Tshimanga, must be some sort of agreement with his parent club.

This

He shows short glimpses of something but 95% of the time if not more he looks miles off the pace, his first touch is poor and he ends up sat on his arse moaning about being fouled when he just fall over.

Can’t wait for the Bignose interview to end!

Think we might get a hiding tonight. Hope not though!

I've got a winning feeling

From Sky +, the pitch looks shit which will suit our lump it up to Smith tactics

Tinpot drum has already put me in a bad mood...

2nd game in a row.

God this is pretty shit so far.

Two games in a row.

I fucking dare you Fleetwood

Sobo with a good run into the box and his cross finds Cox and his volley almost comes back to Sobo.

That was a good chance to be fair

1st corner for them.

1 down

0-1 didnt take long

Fuck off

Another fucking corner goal, unmarked.

 :suicide:

OG off smith

OG by Smith.

Would have gone in if somebody hadn't pulled the wing off that fucking butterfly.

I'm actually looking forward to relegation

Cracking header by Smith!

Nice push in his back by Delaney too!

Muppets!

What do they do in training exactly? Free header after free header from set pieces in the box every game we play.

Free header from a corner, who da thunk it.

Payne took the corner, Iandolo headed it towards goal,  Smith put it in the net

First seat  piece and a goal down

Fucking shambles 

That is the worst bit of defending ive ever seen in my life

Unmarked iandolo.

Could have had a picnic and still won the header

2-0

Corner from Payne, header back by Iandolo, finish by Smith - i would be shoving him in the chest if I were Bycroft.

Bloody horrific

0-2

Fuck me

Another f up 0-2

Fucking hell. That's fucking shit

Comical. What a joke. Going down!

Payne showing why we should have paid him

Even better by Wright!

Even more of a muppet!

#ClemIt'sTime

Fucking Shite

we'll win 2.4

Towns 3 CB's

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Time for clem to fuck off :suicide:

Are there two worse teams in the division? I'd think not

Whatever you're smoking, it must be good stuff.

We are utter dog shit. Those two goals were embarrassing.
The whole fucking lot can fuck off. Put the youth team out and get them some experience for NL next season

All your fault 'More fool me'

trying to cheer myself up by making up jokes :)

We look completely bereft of any idea going forward. Can barely string a few chances together.

Was just saying that when that record was beaten a minute later

 
Bottom as it stands

I just can’t do this anymore, this club is battering my mental health

Game over after 12 mins

Medication can help.

You are by no means alone mate.

Holloway is as clueless as his predecessor. Fuck knows what his tactics are, there’s zero evidence of any decent training going on.

Alcohol also has a good effect.

Thought the team selection was ok.
Thought we’d stay in the game longer than 12 minutes.

Baring a bloody miracle - that will be one point from Accrington, Morecambe & Colchester. Teams with form like that against those teams will go down. That is us, we are going down.

This Holloway experiment/joke/piss take is going just as expected.

Relegation by design.

The thought of Holloways' January recruitment gives me the shivers. Then again those above him with 'football knowledge' will no doubt be doing the sellingrecruitment.
Rotten from top to bottom

Marcus Bignot said in the presser that the Cowleys prepare meticulously, so why didn't Swindon start with a different formation to kybosh all that preparation?

3-0

3.0

Holloway is not fit to manage a professional football club. Especially one with a squad as wank ours. Persisting with 2 CMs, the wing back system, and Tshimanga is unforgivable

Three shots 3 goals :suicide:

I know I say it every game but if Minturn can't get a start in this team he might as well give up football.

May as well just liquidate at this point. Beyond terrible

Exactly thus.

Shambles.

Two shots according to the BbC

I didn’t have much expectation, but fucking hell

At least that was a well worked goal. However, when you have no midfield and none tracking back, what do you expect?

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He is not. And not proud to have said that when we appointed him. Clueless fucking idiot

The focus must now be the #ClemIt'sTime protest.

First sub of the game Delaney off Glatz on

Holloway limit is managing an It’s a Knockout side.

Holloway should never have been given another job after Grimsby

It would be quite entertaining to sack Holloway on 999 matches.

But agree with the above. This is just horrible in every single way.

Cox seems to have forgotten how to cross.

What’s happened to Cox? Since he’s had his hair cut he’s been shit!

Sigh. It's tragic.

We have to ramp up the pressure now this is beyond ridiculous.


Starve the fuckers out- anyone who goes match day don’t attend- don’t buy any drinks or merchandise

Samson and Delilah.

Really? Delaney,Hall,Cotterill and Tshimanga. That does surprise me to be honest

Tshimanga - Shocked to get the ball near the half way line, panics and falls over! Awesome!

4-0

None of those are good enough, I would add Drinan too, his touch is woeful. Not sure about Cox or Bycroft too.

4

Payne, of course it is

Think this could be a cricket score!

4 shots 4 goals :crash: :suicide:

Right.

Fuck off you bunch of cretins.

Absolute jokers.

We can see us sneaking out....

I praised their fight and grit on Saturday - what the fuck are they doing tonight.

An absolute disgrace of a 45 minutes.

3 shots 4 goals?

I'd sack the twat at ht

TBF if you had to listen to Holloway/Bignot/Gunning you would probably switch off too

Can we please just bring on Ofoborh and shore up the midfield!

We cannot defend, we cannot tackle, we cannot cross a decent ball, we can pass too each other in parts of the pitch where is does not hurt the opposition but not where it counts. All in all we are in a desperate position and it will require more than a miracle to get us out of this increasing pile of excrement.

totaly agree another rash decision  by our shit owner and advisers.

Can't wait for the man of the match thread.

Obviously none of them tonight!  :badmood:

May as well go disruptive with protests now. Not like it would make things any worst.

Tshimanga just fuck off back to Peterborough please.

Fucking hell, this is utterly tragic.


Looking at the fixtures coming up, I’m struggling to where we have a reasonable chance to pick up points… Surely we have to beat Bromley… Right?!

I hope they stuck something bloody strong in those free hot drinks

Of all the players on the pitch at the moment, I’d be quite happy not to see any of them at the club by the end of January

Might as well put out the academy team Saturday. And I really mean that!

Wow... Just... Fucking... Wow...

Yep, he is horrifically bad. Remember Holloway saying he had to start him as he trained so well! Absolute fucking clown.

Who needs a midfield, or any pace in the team. Let's play four forwards ans wonder why we get cut open with one pass.

I'm so angry

Has Holloway actually got a contract or can he be binned without paying him off?

Not an ounce of anything about them

Wow that was shit.

Feel physically sick, can’t believe what I’ve witnessed. We are absolutely fucked
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Wonder why no one else signed him whilst we were being cheap all summer  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Each week that passes the optimist in the back of my mind that keeps thinking we’re going to get a win & this is going to turn around. But then the game starts & we find new lows in this already appalling season.

Truth be told, and please forgive my moment of sentimentality, I am heartbroken. Not just because my club is currently destined for non-league football next season, but because there’s no fight, no plan, no pride, no sense that anybody involved in our club has the first clue how to change this. And not just for the remainder of this season, but next too.

Mr Morfuni, you have assembled an inept & inexperienced team who are provably underperforming to the detriment of our club & each & every one of its fans. Not only are the results & performances an embarrassment, but off the pitch you have overseen a shamefully neglectful period that hurts us all.

What makes this worse is that you have gall to defend your record & like the worst kind of cowboys, nothing is ever your fault.

I wonder how long I can take this.

Off to throw a cabbage at a tree

Just so fed up. Angriest i’ve ever felt about football - clubs rotten.

There's no way back.  Our feet are already dangling through the trap door

I don't think Tshimanga is the problem here. When any Town player has the ball, there isn't a plan. The players look completely and utterly lost.

That is what comes from poor recruitment and haphazard management. But remember, as Morfuni said, none of this is incompetent!

I won't give up hope but I genuinely don't know what we do from here. We need to have a shotgun sale, not to a criminal this time, clear the decks and fight for our lives.

It looks like they've already decided Holloway is a joker.

In my lifetime some decent clubs in the south west have been non league looks like it’s our turn.

Holloway will bring in another 5 Grant Hall’s in Jan to save the day.

Accrington 4 nil down against Grimsby at half time as well

There isn't one problem. I can barely fucking count the problems.

Why are we protesting? What a dreadful arsehole.

Because he "saved" our club..

Had a bad feeling after seeing the starting line-up, what were they thinking?

Why play three up front when getting overrun in midfield?  I thought the events of Saturday would have meant starting Glatzel, Ofoborh, and McGurk, with Tshimanga not in the squad.

 the love for hollow way seems to have been very misplaced.

We’ve actually got worse at defending under Holloway  :soapy tit wank: That first goal conceded might be one of the worst goals I’ve ever seen us concede.

Playing just two midfielders is a recipe for disaster

Bring on the protest I say!

Hes by no means THE problem but he is a major part of the problem alongside so man other poo poor players.

We were hugely oversold these players abilities, or was it just bad scouting and recruitment by those above Kennedy in the Summer?

And for that matter last season too.

This is utterly fucked, fortunately I’m in the alps sipping on some Port, however this is heartbreaking, can’t wait till the 21st sing my heart out to get these fucking clowns out!

I assume that some 'unofficial' protests might break out this weekend.

Operation 'destroy the club' is in full swing. Perhaps they are hoping no one will turn up on 21st  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

The absolute pits.

No structure, no tactics, no fight.

Feel for those who have gone there on a Tuesday night. We all deserve better than this.

How on earth do you go somewhere like Colchester and willingly give up the midfield. Genuinely feels like an inside job at this point.

Was there any?

Smith off Longelo On
Hall off Minturn on
Sobo off McGregor on

All the subs yet Tshimanga still stays on.

Nope I dont get it.

Att: 3,401 (170 Town)

i got the impression their was quite a bit .  There were tales of passion, track record, personality and the like .

Said it weeks ago, it stinks of a Sheridactyl type appointment to ensure the club is well and truly fucked.

With my optimist's hat on, I'd probably enjoy life after relegation. In fact I don't think the level we're playing at has any impact on whether I enjoy a game or not.
I've got maybe 4 or 5 seasons left in me before old age and/or Parkinson's prevents me getting to games. It would be nice to see us back where I started watching the Town in '63 by then!

Funnily enough I still think we have some decent players(not many,granted) but they've been horribly managed

Yeah,guess you're right.

I hope Hall & Delaney never play for us again.

I’d wager that Morfuni won’t show his face again. He won’t have the balls to front up.

Hawes has just pointed out we are currently bottom - Justifiably so!

No one can convince me Holloway isn’t here for the exact same reason as Sheridan was under Power. He doesn’t give a shit, he’s just here to deflect from the owner but doesn’t have a care in the world!

Never in Swindons 146 years (or at least since there have been 4 divisions) have we ever sat bottom of the entire football league.

Today truly is a red letter day.

Surely Cox needs to come off. He looks totally shot

McGregor lucky to stay on the pitch there.

McGregor yellow, seen those given as reds

Could hardly jog when he was tracking back there…. yet Sobowale was the one benched?

My 20 year old son texted me and said “dad, we are shit and going down”.

When I was 20 we were in the premier league!

What a difference 30 years makes :-(

He will, and the simps will still clap him

Can't believe that Holloway saw fit to play so many of the players that played so many minutes on Saturday, particularly the older ones.
Could have played Sobo and Minturn as centre backs which would have given us at least a bit of pace to combat their fast players. Mc Gregor at right back, Glatzel replacing waste of space Tshimanga and Ofboroh for Butterworth !

Wondered sorta the same when hiding behind the sofa after seeing the starting lineup.

I reckon he’ll go into hiding in general….

Those pricks will blame the planned protest.
Talking of protest, everybody swap/buy tickets in the Town End, and fucking raise the roof. Our last stand.

I still think that if we sign a new keeper, 4 new defenders, 3 new midfielders and 3 new strikers and I think we COULD stay up!

Even at 4-0 up, Colchester are putting more effort into defending than we seem to have done all season

I actually wonder whether we might have a big change of playing staff in January.

Only question now is which other club goes down with us ?. 

Final sub Ofoborh on Kilkenny off

You utterly stupid fucking cunt. Absolute bell end.

Egbo off Hunt on

Let’s put this into context. My local team is Bath City.

If things go the way they seem to be and Bath get promoted, they will be our local derby.

Saturday afternoon at Twerton Park.

Bath City are part time by the way. It really is that desperate.

We do in every other window.

Bycroft WTAF are you doing?

Flappy mcflap face

Stat alert.....

ColU had won 3 in 17 prior to tonight = 4-0 up
Morecambe had won 2 in 17 = beat us 3-2
Accrington were 4-0 down at HT against Grimsby tonight.
We aren't going to win another game this season.

McGregor is going to get himself sent off if he carries on grabbing players. Trying too hard

Were we better defensively with Freckleton at the back? That’s a worrying question

I can’t argue that.

We need 2 teams worse than us. I haven’t seen 1 yet.

At least hes one of the few that are giving it everything tonight.

When you think we have reached rock bottom, we seem to manage to get worse. We're about half way to the earth's core.

We are trying to reach Oz to meet up with Clem.

We should sign Doug McClure

We are like the lion - ‘Put ‘em up! Put ‘em up!’

The munchkins  :)

Well at least today will go into the history books, not for the right reasons but still.

The day we hit rock bottom of the Football League for the first time ever.

And like Rudolph....their names will go down in history.

In hindsight was Kennedy doing a good job?

Should be 5

Garner was the last one doing a good enough job

I was about to say that we should play Minturn from the start at the weekend. And then he shows why he isn’t good enough

Nope, but how anyone thought Holloway was the best decision is beyond me. We are so fucked.

The irony, our last football league game will be against MK fucking dongs  :suicide:

When Lindsey got the MK job, I worried he might be the one to relegate us, but let's be honest, the way we're going, we'll be down long before that

Well that was shit.

4-0 and that absolutely flatters us.

Him and the DOF put this team together..

Not much different to the Hall dismissal v Gillingham

Yep

Bit unfair maybe? Coming on 4 nil down in a shit performance and makes one mistake. Still think he should be starting

Best thing Hall has done for us. Get himself suspended.

I sincerely hope that Tshimanga, Hall, and Delaney are dropped on Saturday, along with playing four at the back, Ofoborh must start.  The back three aside from Wright are too slow and error prone.  There was marking and tracking runners in the second half, but Colchester were seldom out of first gear.

Hall & Delaney make Heywood & Viveash look like Baresi & Maldini

The back three isn't working, time to drop some experienced players, don't blame Minturn for one error or Glatzel playing out of position.  

Well if he must persist with his stupid formation I'd say
Minturn, Sobo and Wright
McGregor Ofobohr Kilkenny, Longelo
 Smith Glatzel Drinan

I know. I think he is likely the best of a bad bunch. Hall and Delaney are on the way down, while Minturn has the potential to get better.

A whole new low!  :cry: :cry: :cry:

PLEASE ask him why Tshimanga plays 90 mins every game!!!!

Holloway post Colchester

-   Opening goal wounded us. Everything that we were doing before, stopped. We lost energy and unforgivable. In truth we were beaten after the first goal.
-   Haven’t seen that before from ‘my lot’. That was unacceptable especially after what I saw on Saturday up until the penalties.
-   Their heart and soul should be for the people who have driven all the way here to support, but the players didn’t look like they cared. We’re in the mire, and we deserve to be.
-   Players will watch every single minute of that first half again. I am hurting badly.
-   We are absolutely rooted to the bottom and after seeing that, I might need the cavalry to come in during the transfer window.
-   The group needs help and the window opens soon and I will have to do more work than I ever dreamed of. The players know it wasn’t good enough, and I cannot defend that performance. Colchester blocked almost every cross and we just didn’t have that desire – we lack that spirit and desire.
-   We’ve got to sort this out. That performance was like a bouncy castle with about 15 holes in it. How can you be afraid to do your job?
-   Ryan Delaney – he’s running on empty and we had to throw him back in. His natural replacement, Miguel Freckleton, is injured.
-   I need to reassess everything right now. What I have to do is hold it together and make sure whoever is picked on Saturday is ready to go out and do a job. That’s the challenge but it’s a challenge I am up for and that’s the job.
-   I apologise to the Swindon fans. This is a horrendous, squirmy period. We are stood in a pile of manure. We need to dig deep and get a different mindset. That’s one horrendous evening that we’ve all had to endure. The negative feeling is spreading and we might need some leaders and some other people to come in. we know what the issues are.

Holloway:
- First half: Difficult to say. The goal wounded us
- Everything we were doing before the goal stopped. Which was unforgiveable
- We were beaten there and then at 2-0. It was unacceptable
- Didnt expect that from these lads, after the fight they showed at the weekend
- Their heart and soul should be for the people who drove up there
- That aint good enough
- We are in the mire and deserve to be after that
- They are going to watch every minute of that first half
- Saw some fight in the second
- We are absolutely totally rooted to the bottom
- If thats the way we are going to play then I might need the cavalry to come in in the window
- As a professional that is unacceptable. We were still in it at 2-0 down
- The window will be open soon and Holloway will have to do more work than he thought he would
- He cannot defend that performance
- Have some of them played their way out of the club? Thats harsh. Holloway would have picked 9 of their team and only 2 of ours.
- No desire.
- WE became predicable
- They know that was unacceptable. Said some other things to those who came on.
- Delaney was running on empty. His replacement is injured
- Hall coming back from injury
- But that isnt an excuse. It was like a bouncy castle with 15 holes in it
- If they are going to show me that just before a window, I would be worried if I were them
- That is unacceptable from the whole group
- The last manager and Sporting Director aren't here now
- I might have to do a darn sight more than I thought I would in the window
- Holloway needs to reassess everything
- Have to make sure that whoever he picks is ready to go on Saturday
- He expected us to win tonight. We started well and then we gave t hem two. Then they looked as if they could score at will. Holloway didnt recognise them. He apologised to the fans.
- Need fans to help him dig us out of the mire
- 6 or 7 of them have been relegated before. They need a different mindset
- Killkenny worked his socks off
- Wanted to bring Drinan off as he ran his heart out, but ran out of subs.
- Need some help from the fans. Need Fleetwood to feel under pressure and not our lads
- The save after Minturns mistake and Wright winning the second ball: That was the only praise he gave
- There is a negative 'wuhh!' around the club
- They got worse tonight not better
- That lot have holes in them
- It was horrendous. Holloway can't have that!
- They dont look like the players he has been training with
- It will be a long journey home!

Again. It's as if what happened out there was nothing to do with him.

Holloway is a dick isn’t he?! Zero accountability, he couldn’t care less.

I’m not sure whether he was suggesting that several players were loyal to Kennedy & Russell rather than him.

I don’t think that is the case

He’s clueless i know that much.

He’ll walk before game 1000 i bet.

He’s picking the team and ‘training’ them but he’s not taking any of the responsibility. He’s just another Sheridan.

Players debate is interesting. Some of these players are folding under the pressure, others seem to be players that are fine when surrounded by good players and some just aren’t up to it. There’s very few/no players in this squad who seem to be able to take a game by the scruff of the neck and get us going. Potentially Wright can, I seem to remember a home game he seemed to do that.

Defensively we’re an absolute disaster, structurally we are as well which doesn’t help the defenders. The Drinan, Tshimanga and Smith front 3 is not going to work, I’m not sure why it’s still being persisted with. They’re 3 players who all need to be supplemented with creative options.

The other issue we have is the massive drop in expectations/aims from promotion to relegation dog fight. Not that any of us genuinely believed the promotion challenge was on but all of these players came in talking about aiming for promotion. How many are going to be keen to roll their sleeves up and get stuck into this dog fight and how many are going to be on the phone to their agents begging to get them out of here on January 1st, I guess we’ll see.  

If you think it’s all down to the manager you are deluded.

Agree, but the buck stops with IH, holder of the poisoned chalice.

How many players have been relegated and how many promoted? They’re all a bunch of losers

Six have been relegated before.

Fuck off! You’ve been on here defending this mob for months, are you finally accepting we are run by crooks? It’s clearly the ‘owners’ fault but this twat in charge take his fair share of culpability now. We’re getting worse under him and he just continues consistently spouts utter drivel to deflect the blame.

It’s not all down the manager but he is playing his part.

In fact I don’t think there is a single person connected to the club from the boardroom, through the non playing football staff, to the players who is blameless.

All fucking useless & should fuck off.

Clearly Clem has rubbed off on Holloway

Well that was bouncycastlefourerraticamulodatrocious

It's ok though, don't worry. CEO and ''Expert of the Millenia'' nominee Anthony ''I don't know'' Fuck Hall, has just told us we need to be patient.

Patient for what Mr Fuck Hall? If I'm not already, I'll be a mental health outpatient before this season is fucking complete. Is that patient enough for you Anthony

Club is full of moronic wazzocks

^Stands and looks at a lake full of smugly gliding swans^

Fuck offff  :badmood:

If you want to go down that route also the fans/ trust members at the time who had a love in with ‘Clem’ as the new messiah. Clem Morfuni who’s only reason for taking on Swindon was he’d fallen in love with the club and the town… bull shit. Well done with the due diligence

I accepted relegation as inevitable last night but I'm actually a step beyond that now. I'm now thinking that's the best possible scenario for the Club in its current state. My concern now is that we don't go the way of Bury and anyone who thinks that is hyperbolic, just consider that not so long ago not that many people would have even considered relegation from the FL as a likely outcome...

I don't think anyone is that deluded to be fair but the fact is we've got worse under Holloway. He hasn't a clue which team to pick., he's full of bluster which is mistaken for "passion" and "cheeky chappiness" that's mistaken for "character and he's taken us to the bottom of the pile. It's the fault of the hierarchy ultimately of course but I can't believe anyone thought we wouldn't be a laughing stock as soon as Holloway stepped into the office. I will hold my hands up if he turns it around, I will.

It's actually happening isn't it.

And it is fully deserved. We can have no complaints when we go down.

Spot on.
Kennedy would have got at least a point out the last 4 . Ollie doesn't have time for a virtual pre season

And we’re going to allow this clueless clown of a manager to be in charge of January recruitment when he’s been out of the game for 4 years. Who will want to join this sinking ship.

We can only hope the National League is as far as we will fall.

Even relegated I want rid of the causes.

My prediction is we won't have to worry about Holloway's lack of knowledge of league 2 football or his scouts not knowing anyone this low down the ladder.

He's not going to be the one making the signings this January because he'll get his 1000th game vs Grimsby & he'll quit.

Yep my thoughts too

And mine, he will manage his 1000th game against Grimsby on 21st December then depart citing broken promises and being unable to work with a split fanbase.  The SO69 protest will be a convenient excuse IMO.

I'll be really fucking cross if he does that.

 :D :D :D

Would it surprise you though? It wouldnt surprise me in the slightest.

No, it wouldn't. In a spiteful moment last night I hoped we'd sack him on 999.

The whole thing is a sideshow in a season that needs every bit of help it can get on the main show.

Agree.

Its fucking dark.

I won't as there must be someone out there better placed to try and keep us up as it clearly isn't his calling.

It would surprise me. Quitting on exactly 1000 games, against a team whose fans hate him, with us clearly on our way to non league? More.likely he hangs on until January in the hope he can be some sort of saviour in his last management job, then goes either when he realises he's not got any budget to work with and it's hopeless, or in Feb/March when we're clearly down if not yet mathematically.

I wish we'd sacked the idiot at half time

Or he 'hands over the reins' to Bignot & Gunning

I wish we never appointed him!

Yeah, that too!

Probably the biggest issue here if he walks. They won't appoint anyone else.

Someone on FB posted this

“Listening to Ollie’s post match he’s honest and truly aware of what he’s got as a team and knows some of them has to go.If he’s been told new blood is coming clem should at least get some credit.“

Just another example of how clueless some of our fanbase is.

Don’t they watch the games?
He sets the team set up wrongly - starting 3 up front leaves us outnumbered in midfield time after time, then makes haphazard changes in personnel/ formation which usually make things worse and leave the players looking as though they don’t know what they should be doing.
A manager who has to change team shape after 30 mins or less (I exclude the occasions when a sending off has necessitated that) clearly has no idea.
That said, I stand by what I said when others were saying that Kennedy was the issue - the players are simply not good enough! We’ve played 3 quarters of the teams in our league and beaten just 2. Our league position reflects the quality and mentality of the squad!

Kennedy was probably one handball by Freckleton from staying in his job.

I think Holloway after 1000 games as a manager should know what's needed to turn it around. But I think he thought he could walk in and give it a bit of banter and fresh energy and get a bounce.

That hasn't happened so now he has his work cut out and does he have the desire and tools in the window to do it?. Maybe being on his doorstep he can't scuttle off 200 miles home like he did at Grimsby.

Anyone fancy the extended lowlights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5jxXf7fqIfs&t=73s

Why would you do that NMH! Why!

No

Fuck me.
Surely we don’t have any of these fuckwits left.

What have any of us done to deserve another viewing of that?

Not as bad as the one tans has posted on twitter, but it's to be expected from that moron Wyeman

Bromley beat Gillingham tonight, so we are 7 points behind them in 19th place, and they also have a game in hand.

7 points behind 19th for fuck sake.

And I thought that they looked better than us when I watched them in the cup vs Solihull Moors.   But, then again, Solihull looked better too!

Fuck

Edit: and they, 20th Accrington and 21st Tranmere have a game in hand. Double fuck

22nd is a fucking dream.

No, it’s a fucking nightmare.  Means another season of shit football.

I'd take another season of shit football in the Football League over a shit season of football in the National League any day of the week.. depressing though both of those options are...

…..Or no more football (shit or not) ever (a la Bury).

Indeed. I'm surprised more people aren't considering this as a very real possibility...

Most of us are aware of the knife edge of our existence.

I could see a big financial bang  and being denied entry to the conference. Not based on fact, but it happened to someone else didn't it?

Why can’t we just be like most other teams in the league, potter along, win a few lose a few.  Been on a rollercoaster for over 50 years with this club and don’t know how much more I can take.
Just get this fucking done.  Lowest point of my supporting life.