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It says a lot that we've made it to Friday before anyone has given a toss about this game...

They've won six league games in a row I think and unbeaten since start of October, but were called off last week at Gillingham. Would take a point.

The Morfuni era summed up. We'd now take a point at home against BARROW! (I agree, that would feel like a 'good' result...)

Absolutely damning.

"Hold on to your hats and enjoy the ride.

The good times for our magical club are coming."

Couldnt be more "meh" about it right now, will watch but only out of some morbid duty.

We won't win.

I'm going to go against the grain and suggest that we will win tomorrow. If nothing else but the players' professional pride to carry them into a 2-1 win.

It will be interesting to see how angsty the crowd gets should things not go that way.

On the piss in Salisbury tomorrow while the game is on, one of many better things i have could ended up doing

1-2 att: 8,120 (88 Barrow)

Wouldn't take a point at home to anybody in this division. Even if we are bottom and they are top. Especially not fucking Barrow. I probably bore everybody when I emphasise this, and you aren't wrong for being sensible in your expectation, but it's shit like this that shows what a state we're in. I can't bring myself down to that level. I'll always expect us to beat sides like this and be disappointed if we don't.

I do get this view, and it's a two level thing - on a broader level, thinking that Barrow are a better team than us is not something I'm happy about. But on a realistic level, Barrow are a better team than us in the present moment (and to be clear, a better team than most in the division).

👍

In my head we’re still as good as Bournemouth & Brentford and would expect to beat them, reality however is somewhat different these days.

I’m hoping we come out & have a go at them and score early, and somehow manage to hang on, however reality is going to kick in and we will capitulate in the second half.

Have a feeling it’s going to get a bit toxic if we concede early

We were worthy winners against Mansfield in my opinion.

So this can be done. We just need to play to our ability.

A Mansfield / Accrington performance will see 3 points.

A Wimbledon performance will be another defeat.

Got an ST, love the pub and banter...going to go anyway.

I always call it in November...and i called it mid table*

So my expectation is very low.

Love to be surprised!

*Points deduction pending

Flying back from Athens. Couldn’t have timer it better.

I hope fans realise we should support the team whilst at the same time not particularly supporting the club.

To be fair, I think it is extraordinary the level to which people are doing just that. Minimal dissent at the moment.

Clem's return, if it happens, will change that I think.

Hang on a minute chaps. Why is it so obvious we're going to lose that people would be happy with a point? Last week was shite,the week before was fine. I'm hopeful of 3 points personally. It would hardly be a miracle if we won,given our home league form would it? Plus we may have some decent players back. PS I'm not an FB happy clapper

It’s just the whole negativity emanating from the club - which for most, unfortunately, extends to the team. We’re seeing the fag end of Young and Kemp’s stay, rumours Clem may well sell everything (body) not nailed down, whisk away the bumper payday of the Wrexham game and give poor old Flynn absolutely Jack shit to wheel and deal with.

In my mind's eye the Wrexham game is Clem's equivalent of Ceausescu's final appearance on the balcony.

The crowd turns and it all comes tumbling down.

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Not lost at home to Barrow since 1967

Unfortunately history tells us that the results decide if the fans turn. Win tomorrow and also be winning against Wrexham the fans will not turn imo

And we’ve played them how many times?

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=2ahUKEwj35fT8hZKDAxXrWkEAHRE7BKoQFnoECBUQAQ&url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.swindon-town-fc.co.uk%2FHeadToHead.asp%3FTeam%3DBarrow&usg=AOvVaw36X1vWtvGJTTT4HFtuHOL2&opi=89978449

The youth cup match vs Luton is being streamed on youtube if anyone is interested

Miles Obodo is conspicuously on the bench, which combined with Flynn's somewhat concerning comments in the presser suggests he's involved tomorrow.

Do you have a link to this? Might watch a bit.

My thoughts too, unless he is carrying a knock

STFC official youtube page

https://www.youtube.com/live/HvNumcm0AW8?feature=shared

Obodo and McCormack on the bench, could be in the squad, tomorrow.

Cheers

Fletcher Hubbard just missed a pen

1-0 Sonny Hart

Imagine what Hall will try charging for Man United at home  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: He probably thinks he’ll be able to milk us dry similar to the Man City game.

Won’t dawn on him it’ll effectively be the same as the pointless trophy and similar ticket uptake.

hes a thick chancer cunt who is vaguley ok at mental maths
peal of his mask and you get this there i said it
hall = mcroarry

as john sheridan returned to the sidelines for this match

ah come on, suspect it was tongue in cheek but they aren't that savage

Season ticket holders won't get in for free, that's for damn sure.

It was tongue in cheek but nothing would surprise me.

In days gone by they’d try and get as many people in the ground as possible to make an occasion of it like when we played Everton, this time round you can guarantee the focus will be on making money.

Can't be arsed today. #doingmybit

My thoughts exactly, not making the trip up today.

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Wow thats a piss weak bench.

Wow! That bench. I’ve never heard of 2 of them.

Where’s FBT?

Weakest in living memory

And Shade?

Only 2 centrebacks, does that mean 4-4-2 ?

Can’t believe all the missing players are still injured/have become injured

Yep, more going on there i reckon

It was a couple of weeks ago they were coming back

Absolutely agree with this. Tactical injuries.

Be a good shop window for them come boxing day, being saved?  :sherlock:

4-3-1-2 ?
4-3-3 ?

FBT injured against Wimbledon, Shade possibly injured in training.  Thanks so much Clem and Anthony for your foresight.  4 : 4 : 2, probably.

That has to be a flat back 4 but we’ve got our better attacking than defending wing backs in at full back.

Unless one of Khan, McE or Kinsella are gonna sit in at CB!

Heads Up.

There will be a minutes applause at 7 minutes to remember Elsie who passed away recently aged seven months old. I know the parents personally and I implore you all to clap to remember such a lovely baby and her parents at this difficult time.

TIA

Hubbard for the 3rd CB!

Genesini might come off the bench!  Ground sounds empty on the radio.

The missing thousands will be compensated by the bumper Boxing Day gate.

How many will be missing today due to Hall pissing off the fan base during last Monday's car crash?  We could call it the "Hall Effect".

Holy fuck that bench

My sincere condolences to the family.

Club are missing a trick here.
I’d pay good money to be named sub & come on for a minute the end just because…

Is Lewis Ward the country's highest paid childminder?

He employs them to pull the splinters out of his buttocks.

The bench has an average age of 19 and just 57 1st team appearances between them, with Ward making 90% of those.

Smell a rat😁 manager told not to include them!

Me

B Ward
Clayton
FBT
Brewitt
Devine
Uwakwe
Cain
RHM
Shade

Have I missed anyone?

Me pissed off

Looks about right, almost an entire full team out and all would be in or very close to the starting 11.

From the emptiness of the ground, you are in good company.

Anyone's firestick just disappear? Every other game is working

Scrub that, the empty north stand is back

iFollow is doing an impression of a broken record.

Yes over and over talking about Canavan and sam foley.

Sent a message to support. Bloody annoying.

How the fuck have they got a far more experienced team and subs than we have got when they average well under half the attendances that we average?

Half? They dream of half.

True. They have a decent side up there, I wouldnt mind Telford and Canavan and Sam Foley in our side.

Maybe Anthony Hall told iFollow to stop letting us spongers have every game for near-on free.

Someone post when they have ifollow back

I wouldnt put it past him :D

They’ve had 3 shots already

The radio link is live even if no picture.

Stupid fire stick.

I can’t even freeload properly today…

FK to them just outside the box.

Shot straight at the wall.

Telford shoot but its deflected wide for a corner to them.

No picture.

Live commentary only.

Club freeloading off loyal fans as per Covid season and entirely as usual.

I've paid for it as firestick not working , good to know I'm number 108 in the customer live chat queue that has moved 4 places since kick off

Back on now.

Unsure whether Phil Smith's comments are harder to bear with or without pictures

Given up.
Watching Newcastle Vs Fulham now

In black and white?

FK to Town 30 yards out, Kemp on it.

Big deflection just over the bar, corner to Town.

Black, white & illumines pink

Kemp with a great cross, headed out for  another corner to Town.

I’m on MK vs FGR

Young beats his man and hits a cross and its headed out for another Town corner.

I restarted and it became ok

Austin with a header but cant get enough on it in th ebox.

Been back about 8 mins now.

Austin chases down a back pass and nearly gets to the ball to the keeper but he just gets to it and clears it.

 :clap:

Looks like the Barrow fans all came in the same minibus.

Raul Jimenez has just taken a standing Newcastle player out with his arse to their face!!
VAR checking to see if it’s a red!

…and he’s off

Stockport 4 up already

Interestingly Barrow this season have averaged 4,058 and we are currently averaging 8,850. So it actually is not much less than half.

A bit of success bringing out thousands of plastics.

Poor touch by Kemp in the middle puts us in trouble but Khan tidies up after him.

Just not for away games it seems!

Been watching bits. Paddy Madden rolling back the years

TBF Sutton are shit and look doomed already.

That’ll help us if it only leaves one relegation place.

I would be lying if I said that thought hadn't crossed my mind.

0-1

0-1

Low corner to the unmarked player on the edge of the box who fires it in low and hard.

Well, that was naive wasn’t it?

Game over.

OMFG.  Unmarked edge of box.  Slots in in.  0-1

Great!

Shocked that absolutely no one was picking up the free man on the edge of the box, all expecting a fired in cross.

 NOw watching Cheltenham vs LO

Rob Hunt doing well

League 2 clubs must be rubbing their hands when they see they are playing us.

A guaranteed 3 points.....

Get ready for Flynns copy and paste post match interview..

Newcastle have had to make 2 subs due to injury in the first 35 minutes to add to their ever growing list.

They’ve bought a 17 year old on!

Perhaps Flynn should make a start teaching them how to defend. Schoolboy stuff. Embarrassing.

A guaranteed 3 points?!
We’ve lost 7/22 so far ffs

1 game plan and thats so easy to break down, no plan B, nothing on the bench to change things.

Its a sad situation currently.

If it’s Lewis Miley, then he gave Milan a real game in midweek.

  :doh:

Almost all of our passing is falling way short of their target so far today.

And will not improve in the near or distant future....

At least Flynn can change things from the bench!

Kemp shot from 25 yards defelcted over the bar for a corner.

I'm glad your happy with how things are going on the pitch.....

Kemp wins another corner.

Except most of them must’ve done a hard 90 minutes last night.

So much experience on the bench, we will be fine....

Are you disagreeing with the fact we’ve lost 7 games this season?

1 min added.

This is shite. Proper, proper shite. They've got no idea what they're doing.

Minno goes up for a corner and so unacustomed to it he gets a nose bleed.

Didn’t say that at all did I?
Not even remotely close to what I said.

You said any team who plays us is guaranteed 3 points - that isn’t true. We don’t lose every week.
Regardless of all the off field stuff, regardless of squad size, regardless of how many kids we have on our bench - we aren’t losing every game, are we?

I’m back!

HT 0-1

Pretty crap TBH.

It is.
Definitely a different calibre of 17 year old.

Yep, IPTV Ifollow finally on

Well done you can read the stats....how many games have we thrown wins away.

I'm glad you are happy with the way things are going this season...

Missed the whole first half - Hawes suggesting we have offered no threat

Just as the halftime whistle is blown - brilliant

Less than no threat.

Well that was pretty abject, even iFollow not bothering for the first 15 minutes as well.  I imagine the camera man and technical crew fell asleep.

That was the highlight of the half.

Barrow haven't looked anything special either.

But given all our defensive frailties are so obvious, how on earth do we allow such an unchallenged strike from the edge of the box.  It's not exactly an unheard of move to feint to pump the ball into the box and then roll it across.

Yes, I can read. Unlike you.

Please find a direct quote from me where I specifically state verbatim that I am happy with things on the pitch.

That is a world away from disagreeing that playing us is a guaranteed 3 points for the other team.

Awesome! Well, someone get a message to the dressing room that I’m ready to be entertained in the second half!

Wow you really are a pedantic head in the sand guy....

Wake up......this is just the start.....its going to get a lot lot worse

We have been shite today with Kemp,Young, Hutton, Khan and Austin

Hiw do you think it is going to be in January when they are not here....

I fear you may be expecting too much re the entertainment!

We look unbelievably shit, some players are just going through the motions out there and the empty stadium reflects exactly where the club is at currently. Let’s hope we don’t get any points related penalties as this team especially without Kemp and Young won’t be picking up many more points this season. Hopefully we can scrape our way to league survival.

Maybe Jabba will get on in the 2nd half!

Wow. Is this true? They're all definitely going?

Maybe Dworak coming on second half will usher in a whole New World?

Yes, it’s going to get worse. I haven’t said otherwise have I?
We still won’t lose every game though.

Don’t quote me ever again.

It's OK, it's not too bad,  DIV says we've only lost 7 out of 22 this season....

Flynn outtttt

May be a few spare Wrexham tickets going after this shit show

Dire. The thinnest of gruel.

No desire. No energy. No effort.

Cowley, you do know it’s possible to get your point across without being an obnoxious cunt in the process, don’t you?

Wow!!

I'm out,  

Think I'll go back to not posting.......

Nice quip, could be Christmas Chopin affecting the gate, even with online shopping being pervasive.

Well we have no Symphony number 9 on the pitch.

Nice Abusive personal comments...

Now that's mature isn't it....

Mozart's Requiem comes to mind.

Fucking Funeral March

Chopin, I wish I was shopping.

Right. Second half. Let’s stop the personal abuse and watch the shite!

Give it a rest eh?

This is setting a very low bar for the quality of both teams, but Barrow have a stronger, bigger side and will soak up any pressure we may well put them under, which is currently none.

Our mid/long pass completion rate must be about 25% today.

I got 93 seconds into the second half (after not watching any of the first half) before I hit mute.

Getting to the stage now when Flynn needs to take ownership of this shit. How much will he cost to get paid up.

Young nearly finds Hutton down the wing but yet again the pass is too strong.

I don’t think you’re making enough allowance for 10 first team players out.

But, honestly, how many of them would be starting today? FBT.

We usually get found out in the last quarter when our subs get outclassed by the oppo’s. We’ve gone early with the failure today.

Surely Brewitt and RHM?

RHM doesn’t start many

Brewitt would probably start with Shade on the bench.

We forced a save. Get in there

And FBT

Austin header saved low for a corner.

Clayton too.

He’s faded completely since his first injury.

2-0 pathetic

Nice, singing about freeloaders :D

0-2

Liquidate

Well, that was naive. Again. Read this slowly: we are being outplayed by Barrow. Barrow.

What is GMC doing?

Flynn can fuck off now past hearing his shit.

Per Hawes, the last Barrow win at the County Ground was in 1967 before the 1969 moon landing.  One small step for man, one giant kick in the balls for Swindon Town fans.

That’s Barrow who as of right now - sit 2nd in the table…

What the fuck has happened to Hutton? He’s already househunting in Barrow, is he?

Currently doing birthday announcements during the game  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Gone back to watching Newcastle - who haven’t broken 10 man Fulham down yet.

1-0 now the 17 year old kid who came off the bench has scored

Isnt that where we got him from?

That’s sort of my point. That they can do that without spending £8m a year.

This is all a bit shit.

We won't need a points deduction to get relegated, the club squad/manager are doing enough on their own. Glad I didn't go.

There’s a vague rumour he’s going back there in January.

Kinsella gets a yellow for being fouled?

Flynn is trying to work with a threadbare, over-played squad, has to change formation due to having only two that can play at CB, along with the bench mainly consisting of youth team players.  On top of that Clem and Hall have totally alienated the fanbase. What can Flynn do in the circumstances?

Yeah, I totally get that point & couldn’t agree more.
They are no mugs though on the pitch however & we won’t be the only team they’ve outplayed this season…

Thought Hutton was going to Walsall

Fuck right off!

He would fit in this side well as they have 3 very solid CB's in place who can defend.

Time for Barrow to make another couple of goals yet

Oh yeah, you might be right. Whatever. Bit of a downgrade on where he was rumoured to be going in the close season.

Not going splendidly.

Sorry, I didn’t mean you. I was answering your question as to what Flynn can do.

Austin has had some awful haircuts, but this has got to be up there!

Another fucking free header

At least our fellow relegation candidates aren’t doing very well either!

I realized that, finally.  I don't like having to defend Flynn, but a fish rots from its head.

0-3

Still, at least the books are good.

Luton player Tom Lockyer has collapsed at Bournemouth  :eek:

Well, that was naive. No marking. No effort. No desire.

Decided not to defend agaiin

I don't think Flynn is a bad manager, I think his hands have been tied and taped up and handcuffed by Clem.

But hes not helping himself with some of our tactics recently. The injuries seem to coincide with poor performances on the pitch. He needs to take the blame for a lot of this.

I have backed Flynn fully but I think its time he swallowed his pride and walked away now and blames the owners before he loses face and his win rate goes down and down lowering his future stock as a manager.

The lesser spotted Genesini is on the field.

Is that fans fighting down the bottom of the DRS

Flynn feels like an average L2 manager. He won't go higher but nor is he the reason we're struggling. He could take a good team up and a bad team down.

We've decided not to attack or defend. The midfield is either all running forwards or all defending. really really shit

Glad I didn't bother to travel to watch this shite.

What formation are we attempting to play?
Have they announced an attendance?

7300 home fans. Last hurrah against Wrexham and it'll drop even more.

Should have been 0-4!

https://twitter.com/i/status/1736061443785765211

He is awake and responsive now apparently.

Did this also happen to him in the play off final?
…or was that a collision? Or am I misremembering everything?

That is absolutely horrific defending for their third, truly pathetic!

Odds we’ll defend this free kick?

Fot his 9th appearance of the season, seems way less in my mind than that.

Sometimes it’s best to say nothing as there’s clearly something wrong with this football club

People saying Flynn has his hands tied, but what about the basics of defending. Inexcusable imo.

Yep. Had heart surgery I believe?

Difficult to tell, the panic button has been pressed from the first couple of minutes

Flyn should go tonight just not good enough . :suicide:

Young off injured now.

Brutally, a month or six weeks out with injury would be about the only way we might still have him in Feb...

Get Upung off and bring one of the ineffective kids on

It seems that more than several players will be gone in January, with team morale seemingly in the toilet.

Two goals from set pieces, absolutely things that shouldn't happen

Nearly a 60 yard goal by Barrow.

Interesting thought.

7463 incl 133 Barrow

I don’t see how getting rid of Flynn improves anything. People are just lashing out wildly.

About 1000 lower than any previous league game this season?

Couldn't afford to now anyway with his 3 year deal.

Only around 2k pay on the day fans.

That was an odd one.

That's the thing, a thousand down is actually losing a third of the non freeloaders.

Getting rid of Flynn would mess up the January window, more than it is messed up already.  The issues are above Flynn.

the game is definitely gone now. Give the youth some minutes. They won't lose us this game

Last 2 games

F0 A*7 Pts0

*At the moment

Why have we been throwing in useless long crosses all game against some of the most competent defenders in the division? Where has driving through the centre of midfield gone? We’re not even playing to the feeble strengths we have.

Tried that and conceded 3 goals in injury time last time!

After the great start to the season since then its been 17 games with just 3 wins and 3 draws.
 
DLLLLLDLWWLLDWLLL

Thats a win rate of just 17%
And a loss rate of 65%.

Not acceptable.

Midfield looks utterly lost. the four of them all seem on different pages

This is utter crap.

It’s also the name of the village Flynn comes from.

I'd like to see some more goals

We used to be dangerous at both ends of the pitch. We've tightened up at the wrong end.

Since October 3rd

L Notts 1-3
L Bradford 0-1
L Reading 0-5
W Newport 2-0
D Salford 2-2
L Gills 0-1
L MK 2-3
L Aldershot 4-7 (7-0 down)
L Colchester 1-3
L Stockport 2-4
D Harrogate 1-1
L Exeter 0-1
W Mansfield 2-1 (last minute winner)
W Accrington 4-3 (almost threw away 4-0 lead)
L Wimbledon 0-4
L Barrow 0-3 (so far)

F 21 A 42

Horrendous.

It's not acceptable but demoralised players are hard to motivate.

Imagine Kemp & Young will be called back next week

I know what you are getting at but this has been poor for weeks now and its just not working.

Yes the issues are above Flynn but he must have professional pride.

I have backed Flynn as much as I feel is possible, the football early season was great to watch but in the last 5 or 6 weeks its been utterly terrible with very little in attack and less in defence.

Me saying for Flynn to go is not a knee jerk reaction I have thought long and hard about it as I don't like to criticise the manager when hes been dealt a weak hand but this is truly woeful and currently about as bad as Sheridan was for me.

The players look like they dont want to be there and lack cohesion and teamwork and a desire to play for Swindon.

Think of the poor cats in households when disgruntled fans return home🤣

It looks as if a very poor and very light dressing room has been lost

I’d say judge him when he’s got a squad to choose from. He’s having to play a team out of position and out on their feet, under an administration that doesn’t know what it’s doing. Flynn is a long way from being our biggest problem.

How fucking shit is this division that were *still* only two points outside the playoffs with three wins in 17 games.

I’m too pissed off to even look at the league table these days!

Well that was bad.  We are bad.

No way Flynn gets the hook, can't afford it as well as the fine that is incoming.

Clearly we have a poor squad, most people saw that coming.  I was worried we were too cavalier in the early going of the season, thought that wouldn't hold up.  It hasn't - no amount of disregard for basic defending can make a game entertaining enough when you start losing.  Now we are beyond that - the entertaining is gone because we can't rotate any players and the back-ups are awful, we are in the grind of the season and never sorted the defence out when we should have done and are reaping the rewards of putting together a shit squad.  

Hopefully someone, somewhere, is having a good time off of the back of the 8m+ we are spending as a club, because it sure as hell isn't the fans having to put up with the abject performances of an abject squad that seems under financed.

At least the season ticket holders can't demand a refund, given this game was undoubtedly one of the free ones.

Not just midfield.

Running off the ball looking slow and dutiful rather than instant and instinctive as it was earlier this season.

This was well below Conference standard.  As we know anyway from the FAC.

Not calling for his head and certainly sympathetic to the hand he's been dealt but the defensive disregard remains stubbornly unrepaired and all joy on the ball now gone.  Reason enough to start looking at the role of Flynn and his coaches. Why wouldn't we?

Bizarrely we’ve lost the same amount of games as Notts County🤔

Left on the 65min as I didn’t want my freeloading ass to watch much more

That was bad. Left after the third.

Never seen a bunch of players so uninterested. We are devoid of ideas big time.

Time to sell up Clem. You've fucked it.

thats poor

I reckon Supermarine would batter us.

I reckon that U11 girls team that were on at half time would batter us

Flynn:
- Performance has got to be better
- Injury list has taken its toll
- January cant come quick enough
- Clem over at the end of next week
- Team picked itself as we didnt have others
- The players picked are better than they performed today
- Am asking same players playing every minute. But they have to be better
- Too slow with the ball
- Turned down crossing and shooting opportunities
- Almost that 'edginess' about them today
- There is a lot going on but we cant do anything about that
- Have to ask them about psychological scars
- Energy was there. Didnt stop working
- Too easy to score against
- Know they are a big team. But we gave them free headers
- They should be worried. Its their careers. Careers go at the click of the fingers. It becomes even shorter if you dont put the work in
- Young hasnt  trained all week as he hurt his ankle
- We need players back. We need help
- Not because the players know there is no competition
- Their careers depend on it. They should be seizing opportunities
- Lots of big clubs looking at players. If you are a plyer, you'd want them to be looking at you
- Injuries have taken their toll. Couldnt pick the formation Flynn wanted
- Shade was ill
- FBT is injured. Hamstring. 2-4 weeks
- They are definitely trying. The preformance just wasn't good enough

Flynn has that extraordinary gift that when interviewed he gives the impression that things that happen on the pitch are nothing to do with him. You can't keep saying week after week "we're too easy to score against without doing fuck all about it.He baffles me

One positive, these abject shite performances are saving me money.

I get pissed off hearing him say the opposition are a big team……look for some big fuckers then in the transfer window national league if need be😡

It has been two months and 12 games since we kept a clean sheet.

Scored 43 conceded 43 :D

that was shite. Like last week we were outmuscled.

Were barrow technically good? Not really. Organised and strong yes.

By comparison we were Powder puff and ineffective in all areas today. I appreciate we do have an injury list that isn't totally squad investment related but fuck me.

Is this the longest we've gone without scoring this season? Seems like it

Not a massive amount to add that’s not already been said. 3-0 down to Barrow and them resting players against us is a pretty depressing place to be.

Going to state the obvious but the clubs in a very dangerous area now. We’ve seen a snapshot into non league life today, and whilst it’s not an imminent threat this season, if we’re sucked down there in years to come under this regime then we won’t come back for a long time barring a miracle.

Again, nothing against Barrow but to see clubs like that getting it right on the pitch whilst we aren’t is tough take whilst also having to listen to the forward thinking and well structured plans of clubs like Stockport. I saw a tweet recently something like “every day I log into this app hoping for a shred of rumour that we’re being sold” and whilst funny, that’s exactly where I am as well.

The hope of seeing a credible sale rumour is all there is to cling onto
right now.

I think there are investors and interested parties out there but they won’t get involved with the current shady hangers on here and who can blame them?

I wonder how much the stadium deal plays into a potential sale.

Clearly no sane person would “invest” if Morfuni / Standing / Austin / Keily remain the club. That doesn’t completely preclude a 100% sale. It simply means someone has to take a gamble and buy the club despite the uncertain state of the accounts.

Even if Clem did sell up how long would it take to go through🤔

Haven't read back yet, absolutely pitiful performance, hostility to the regime quite vocal in the stands, season feels like it's falling apart yet somehow only 2 points off the playoffs

In all the wrong places.

Exactly where I'm at, there is nothing left to be positive about.

Don't forget Adam Hart.

I wonder who else names we've not even heard of are involved. I wonder if Daniel Kinnahan is making a drink off us, Hart did have his boxer in a STFC/MTK Global coat.

Cocaine industry is thriving off us I'm sure.

It's not just that (it would clearly need to be a 100% buyout for any interested party to clear the decks of the people who have been hanging around the past 10 years), but it's also the fact we have at least three EFL/FA potential punishments to consider.  Someone buying us takes on a lot of risk on that side, even if the balance sheet looks a bit better these days, thanks to Eady.

Yes, some massive lump and his dad were stood on the steps above the bottom rows shouting loads of abuse, some old chap seemed to get up and tell him to stop due to all the young kids, then some bloke in a maroon hoody on the front row starting shouting back as he was with his kid. Think the big lump offered him out and he accepted so jumped the concrete and charged up the stairs. The steward was only small and was in between them but he wasn't gonna be able to stop anything.

At this point me and my dad up in row N ran down and got between them, steward held off the bloke in a maroon jumper and me and dad had to drag the big lump and his dad away down the stairs into the concourse. The lump was in an absolute rage and wouldn't listen when I told him about kids being around, luckily he didn't direct that rage at us and just walked away.

Hardly surprising things are getting to this stage. Its going to keep getting more toxic until these lot fuck off. People are going to see red like that on a regular basis. I'm coming more from a place of apathy at the moment.

Who was his initial abuse directed at?

Where to start...

Walking across the Magic Roundabout, the absolute embarrassing shitshow that is our 'next fixture' signage caught my eye. It has been posted elsewhere on Twitter. BARROW appeared to have been written coloured in with a black Sharpie. This is the first impression that our club gives fans/potential fans approaching the ground. And we are run by people with a background in infrastructure. It is a fucking shambles, yet perfectly sums this regime up. If they can't manage that (...they can't), involving the procurement of some basic lettering I'd imagine on the internet for sub £100, anyone who thinks they are capable of rebuilding the stadium is clearly sniffing glue.

As for the match, I simply can't remember a worse performance in nearly 30 years. We did nothing. We achieved nothing. There wasn't a good pass, a good tackle, a shot of note. Absolutely zip. It was astonishing. The complete lack of desire, professionalism, self respect even from the players was breath taking. Players were bottling tackles. Khan absolutely did down by our dugout in the second half. Thinking of his medical at Wrexham no doubt. The amount of hit and hope, slashed clearances/passes to no one... Did we win a single header? The corners (all short I think...) were dreadful. McEachran might have been the worst. We had one moment where the ball was wide left in the first half and they looked vaguely out of shape. What we needed was a lung bursting midfield run into the box. Instead he ambled forward at quarter speed looking like he was jogging on a Park Run. Kinsella might have scraped a 3/10 in a sea of 1/10s for a couple of blocks. 'Man of the Match'.

Flynn's postmatch was similarly pathetic. We put eleven players on the pitch and they were a disgrace. And yet Flynn just passed the buck, immediately citing injuries. What on earth is going on at Beversbrook defensively? If Hatswell is coaching that he needs sacking. As Phil Smith, who was rather good on post match comms, said, there was a complete lack of desire to stop their goals. That requires zero skill or ability. Shameful stuff.
Flynn also seemed to heap the pressure on Morfuni's return. Interesting tactic.
The fact is, some managers thrive in these situations, pulling together results against the odds, engendering an 'us against the world team spirit'. Flynn is doing none of these things. He's chippy, evasive, weak and passing the buck, and his team is a mirror image of exactly that attitude.

The odd thing is, I actually had a lovely day with family in the company of people I have sat around for years. And on that basis, I'll likely renew. It is just part of my life. But I will not put another penny piece into the club outside that. Not a pencil in the club shop, not a packet of crisps on the concourse, not a drop of drink in the Winners. We need these charlatans drummed out. Now.

Well that was fun and well worth the effort.
Mainly the fellow sufferers around me were not bothering next season. Some had no idea what has been going on. They got lots of info from many.  One, made some sort of defence of the current regime. To be fair, they have been through thick and thin so have experienced lots watching our beloved team. Maybe they are more aware of the reality we find ourselves in? No idea.

Freeloading bastards, we know who we are...

Good to see cunts are seeing the Clem word as proper offensive

Read this and remembered that I used to discuss the football......

Not quite correct I saw the whole thing happen. “ lump” was giving it to the players and Steve Myton saying he’s complicit in all of this. After the abuse Myton put the middle finger up to them. Maroon hoody came running up the stairs and threatened to kill the lump. Lump went on to say go on then kill me and hit him but Maroon did nothing after squaring up and hid behind steward. Lump then left after old boy “guided” him out. Not a single punch thrown. Just irate fans fed up of the scum owners. Happy to be corrected if any of this is wrong.

Thats was just my interpretation from high up in the heavens.

Funny you said old boy as I was the one that guided him down the stairs and I'm only 34 😂. Unless you meant my dad.

 :girlgiggle:

He hit him but not a punch thrown, pushed him you mean or?

Nah not a single punch thrown at anybody from what I saw. Neither “lump or “maroon”. Didn’t see pushing either. Most heated thing was Maroon hoodie rushing up from lower DRS saying he’d kill matey. and sorry Briggany think it was your dad mate soapy tit wank.

Whilst obviously completely the wrong thing to do from “lump” it’s not surprising this is now happening and he’s not wrong in what he’s saying. The Trust are complicit in this and they’ve unconditionally backed this horse. There’s likely to be a lot more of this in the coming months unless big changes happen.

So sad to hear this type of stupidity is going on.
STFC a family club being ruined again and again.

I watched the second half. It was absolutely pitiful.

4 games in 8 days, I believe now, with god only knows what 11 we can put out. (Young's injury didn't look ideal) Flynn today said he can't wait for January, at this rate I can't wait for May (or whenever this wretched season finishes)

But important to note that whilst the Trust may have backed a very bad horse, they did that with every good intention and they mustn’t be thrown into the same category as the owners, who certainly do not have good intentions.

Pardon my derision mate but buying a season ticket WILL keep the charlatans in their ‘gilded castle’ I’m afraid to say. If I manage to get any tickets for Boxing Day the only enjoyment I’ll get is seeing and hearing a baying crowd going for those whose actions have put us into a downward tail spin. As for the next FOUR games I can only see a maximum of THREE points.

As I see it getting promoted however unlikely that is is only going to prolong the misery.

Derision seems a bit strong!

I’m aware it’s a bit of a paradox. I want them gone more than anything but equally I don’t want to stop going for the reasons that I’ve said. Most of the people around me are “I’ll come hell or high water types.”

In a way it was easy when Power tried to collapse the club between seasons as we all just had to hold our nerve and not renew.

This situation is more complicated, not least because the bastards have their feet under the table with the ground ownership.

The sad thing is I don’t think most fans will turn on them on Boxing Day.

Yesterday it felt like a lot of fans have just accepted our fate or still don’t believe Clem is doing anything wrong.

The apathy felt really prominent. Imagine a good chunk of that is embracing mediocrity. At least we've got a club etc.

Seems Flynn has, somehow, made our defending increasingly worse whilst at the same time negating the only thing we were any good at - scoring. Bravo, sir!

I understand where he’s coming from blaming individual errors but if nobody is coaching them re where to be, what to do etc then what does he expect. 2 of their goals yesterday were schoolboy stuff. I was always keen to blame our somewhat kamikaze ‘style’ as the price to pay for being shit at defending but the lack of basics defending those 2 set pieces was criminal.

That 3 year extension was one weird decision.

Their third goal was a defensive 'shrug of the shoulders' stuff. Rank awful.

That was bad.

Barrow nothing special, but said before that it doesn't take much more than good organisation & getting the basics right to feature near the top of this division.

Khan shying away from a dropping ball in the 2nd half with nobody within 5 yards of him was a comedy moment but somewhat concerning.

It will be a tad irritating if we see the same lot transformed into a highly motivated team of whirling dervishes on Boxing Day.

Re the Flynn contract extension it wouldn't be unreasonable to think that there might have been certain assurances extracted from the owner before signing?

Or a 'bribe'

Yep- too many who just accept everything as truth until a supporters group orchestrate them to rebel.


How's the ground redevelopment getting on? Notice Wrexham join Bristol Rovers in having knocked up better temporary facilities behind the goal than the Stratton Bank in a few weeks before we've so much as seen a plan of action.

Have you forgotten about the advertising screen?

On that note, why has the sign advertising the next opponent outside the CG become so amateurish? Tiny niggle in the grand scheme of things, granted.

Speaking of things looking tinpot, anyone else notice the advertisement on the pylon between the Don Rogers and Stratton has half peeled off

A panel has also fallen off the front of the club shop, meaning there is one that has a previous season’s livery showing through.

It’s beyond tinpot.

Surely not? The club have spent a fortune on the CG?

I was waiting until today to post in the hope that I could have a reasoned response to that performance, but it hasn’t helped.

WE WERE FUCKING SHITE  :suicide:

I was thinking after the game yesterday that if I didn’t have a season ticket I wouldn’t think of going to another game until the end of January, I guess that would be 5 of my free games eh

Probably sold the individual letters off

on a positive note it was better on average then the first and possibly last 30 minutes at Wimbledon.

er, yeah

To be flair with Flynn, he's been given the worst set off tools in the last 30 years at the Club.
If he can get results with the smallest squad in history then he's doing well to me.
It's like cutting the grass with a pair of scissors.  :D

It's like cutting the grass with a pair of scissors. FFS don’t give them any ideas.

Based on the Trust's reading of the accounts, a pair of scissors might be a significant expenditure.  Apologies for being so snippy.

Our costs are two or three times higher than anyone else in the division don't forget. Can't be helped.

May be Clem just can’t get rid of the hangers on. Don’t forget, Zav got a kicking on his doorstep.

If there is, indeed, a profitable gravy train departing STFC on a regular basis, he may not have the ball(cocks) to mess them about.

Anyone know what was going on with Hutton, he seemed to react to the crowd a couple of times on the DR side, assume he was being given abuse ?

Some were reacting to him passing it back, rather than playing it forward, I think his gesture was basically “a who the fuck should I pass it too then” as everyone in front of him was marked & pretty much stood still

Yes,I'd go as far as to say the first and last 40!
Another semi positive note is that we could have spent as much and had as many experienced players as Gillingham,Bradford and FGR say and still be shit!

Extended lowlights:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cFRbioK8ngw

A bag of nails and a hammer are expensive these days.

Is that a picture of Hatswell showing the minimum distance he’d like our defenders to be from their players?

He goes in the Dumb Post at Bremhill after training at Beversbrook. Should have collared him when I was in there but there's something intrinsically naff about approaching players/staff in public.

I’d actually pay to watch a defensive training session at Beversbrook, simply to see what the fuck they actually do.

Imagine we’d all be in the Dumb Post afterwards, washing our eyes out with Smirnoff.

Something like this I’d imagine