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Hi All, first time too.  Just thought I would help if you need any input from an 'x' one of the new lot....

When is Paolo signing up?

Well Paolo signing up would up the bollocks quotient.

Yeah, right.   On yer bike sunshine!

Why have you spelt your name wrong Steve?  ;)

Is here.

I am who I clai  to be.  Jeremy would be able to confirm.

Do you still have your keys?

I throw them away.

Car keys no... never had keys to ground, just the code to the players entrance..

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Iu7vySQbgXI

I have not...

What's the weather like in Sunderland um, where are you now?

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Stop being a tit Tans.

Its not me.

RRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR

Nigel Eady did leave a large amount, at the moment it is still under control of the executors control. 

His scarf is framed with a little write up, where is it hanging? if indeed you are mr murrall.

In the chairmans suite...

So do you know how much was left to the club then?

The amount is around 2m, but there are planning issues on the estate that may vary this amount up or down...

Cheese. Think about the cheese.

Can you get Jed to sign up on here, Stevie boy?

No

You don't have to disclose them but are there specific conditions on how/where the money should be spent?

Do you know what the money can be used for? Assuming it has to be spent in a certain way?

Take a photo of yourself holding a piece of paper that says thetownend.com on it :)

Yes, very specific and protected, as it rightly should be

So "Mr Murrall", would you care to say something about the forensic audit of the Club that has recently been completed?  Is it a forerunner to another transfer of ownership?  

SM Why did you leave stfc?

The audit was carried out to show the club as it is, no bs just warts and all.  It is not part of any sale plan

Evening Steve.

Do you think Lee Power is a bit of a power tripping nobhead?

Have been hearing he is pissing a lot of people off

I was planning to leave at the end of the year but this was pushed forward out of my hands..  no hard feelingsjust quicker than I was planning on.

Thanks.

I think we all have our own issues, Lee is what he is and am sure he is loved by his family

^^ maybe a bit strongly put Tans :) ^^ It did sound as though Jed didn't know the new financial gent was coming in. Who is pulling the strings at STFC, and is that in full consultation with the (other) board members?

Is Sangita Shah actually a director.

Oh and thanks for STFC world, the ticket buying side is a piece of piss now.

:)

The 'public' version was that you left to concentrate on your other business interests.  That's rather different to what you're saying here.  Whoever you are!   ;D

Fuck me some of you are so gullible.

It was his misspelling of his own name that had me convinced he is the real McC(r)o(r)y ;)

It's not really Paolo?   :eek:

Can't talk specifics,  I am concentrating on my own businesses and am currently out of the country but wish things had been handled differently.  Previous directors are as far as I am aware all happy now but there are still outstanding legal issues that are being dealt with.

Paúlo, it's Paúlo.

We're you pushed out because you were taking a wage and power didn't like it? Is jed in it for the long haul?

I took a very small wage so if anyone had an issue with it I would be amazed..  I only took 50% of my contracted wage to keep costs down

This thread is ace. I have no idea what's going on. Who said the TEF is on the decline.

So Steve....what was working with Jed like, what happens if Lee ended up in charge of STFC

And to Jeremy...would you comment on the rumour that 2 players were signed without medicals? On wages totalling circa £600k for these 2 players??

Bollox ratio has improved last couple of pages - was in danger of football taking over

This is much more entertaining than the England game.

Working with Jed is a real rollercoaster ride, it's great but you have to understand the nature of the beast, he wants continual improvement, no matter what yiu do Jed wants more and that is a good thing for STFC.  Don't know Lee well enough to comment.

Been there,deffo wouldn't want to be picking up your lose change thats for sure,as for Steve Murrall its not him posting,his spelling is worse than mine ::)

YIU

So's Paolo!

wtf ! Do we have a splinter thread?

Splinters everywhere :doh:

Someone split the Murrall and Jezza/Black threads. Probably a good idea.

I'm starting to feel a bit bad I called his Adver photo sinister now (if its him).

It's not him!

The 'Stevemurrell' account is fake, the JeremyWray account is not.

It's best to split the two to let the minions know the truth and guide them toward the light ;)

Steve you must have an idea on lee? Seems to be a conflict between parties! Is the club safe with lee around??

I thought it'd be easier for everyone, including people who haven't seen the threads yet, if they were split in two so that people can address their questions to the relevant individual.

It'd be nice if Mr Murrall could verify his identity. I apologise if I've offended you by doubting you Steve.

It is me and I am not sinister

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How?

That photo is though!

Photo please pointing at the TEF screen as proof

Can you confirm that there are two players at stfc That cast the club around 800k in wages and living expenses?

Was it you or Hooper who got pissed and punchy v Bury

True

You could post a photo of yourself holding a sign with the TEF written on it. Bill Gates did it for reddit... I think Obama did one too.

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I am no fighter, I believe Hooper was assaulted but I didn't see it, it was in the old boardroom overflow

What about the Steve murrall account?

?

Aimed at flash about 10 posts ago  ::)

No sign but a tired Steve bored in Malta.

Fair play

I'll tuck into my humble pie now.

Can you send another giving tans the bird?  :)

Yep

Me two....just needs Jeremy now to show us his lovely bald head.

:girlgiggle:

I have to confess that I always struggled to know which was Jeremy and which was Nick... does that make me racist?

No,just confirms you need glasses.

Did you ever hear back from b*witched Steve????

No... let down again..

soapy tit wank

Do you live in shipston steve?

I went out with a bird from shipston once, she liked it up the pum pum

I've had a few beers, but this is gold.

It was usually at distance, so perhaps binoculars.

Steve, what happened with MacDonald?

Well, these threads have improved my evening

Just bought himself a farm i believe.

Don't know any girls like that....

Do you happen to know what he had on it?

E I E I O ??

Were you on it?

 :D :deadhorse:

Just go down the Falcon

Dodgy women in the Falcon.....and the bear, and the George and the shoe...

Whats the name of the bird, might know her

Tan's sister ??

Steve, how would you describe Jed and Lee's relationship?

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:   :no:

Cheeky cunt.

I doubt it Steve, unless your are into ones in their mid twenties haha

Yeh....  long-time since that was in my scope, but live I  hope...

As an avid lurker then Steve, who's your favourite TEFer?

If he answers Dostoyevsky then I'm closing the forum

Not you as you don't like man love  ;D

No names but I quite liked the TEFers that asked questions of us when we arrived, it was good to see people really care about their club. Long may it continue.

I ask a lot of questions  :)

It's 11:20 here so off to bed..... best of luck tomorrow.

Cheers Steve

Nighty night! :bye:

 :blowkiss:

Thought it was a bit subtler than 'fancy a bum?'.

Fuck me, they'll have to hand out tubs of Vaseline at the CG soon

Night Steve, chin up, you looked a bit subdued/knackered in your pic. Can you get Jed to sign up on here?

and if you do come don't forget your crayons Nile

Just when he was starting to come across as a bit of a lad, he goes to bed at 11.20 on a Friday.

What a fucking egg.

Wow, come in to this after the pub...not sure whether it's serious or funny as fuck, all I have to say is every time I saw Steve I shouted 'Steeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeve'!

You out on the podge then Dave?  :)

Ha, TEF gold, welcome back, it's been a while....

I can't work out what I've just read!

Must've been a good'un.

What's your favourite cheese, Steve?

Probably me then !

So, if Steve does come back on here's some questions I'd like answered:

1) Who's running the club, Jed or Lee Power? As in, who reports in to who?
2) Who owns the club and/or majority shareholding in Seebeck 87?
3) You indicated you'd been "asked" to leave earlier than you'd expected, who asked? Jed or Lee?
4) Was that connected with the conclusion of the audit or is that just a coincidence?
5) You said you'd be concentrating on your own business interests (which is fair enough) but the club statement on your departure said "He will now have time to focus on the STFC MyWorld Project". Does that mean that's NOT owned by the club but licensed from you in some way?
6) Do the current board have funding to invest in the club or are they reliant on using the revenues generated by the club itself to fund the business?
7) Has Sanghita Shah been formally appointed to the board, as in has the paperwork been filed with Companies House or is this still pending? And which business is she a director of, the club or Seebeck 87?
8 ) Is Malta nice this time of year? I love Malta, proper jealous :)

I'd like to know Steve's take on Fjortoft's bar.

Was this Jed's idea ? I don't think I've seen one person take up the 'meal deal' of 12 bloody pound for a meal and a pint and 'guaranteed' table.

It's a waste of space in the Legends lounge in my opinion.

Eh? I might have missed something but I thought the consensus was that this one was a wind up?  :hmmm:

A good read anyway mind!

He posted a pic of himself.

Not quite

Somebody posted a picture of Steve Murrall. If he had a sign saying 'town end forum' as suggested that would have sealed it. I remain unconvinced.

Hi Pauld,

Not going to answer all the questions as I don't think it's my place to now as these are on going events, however I would say the following;

1&2. Jed is the Chairman and sole owner as far as I know.  I would also add that the effort and enthusiasm Jed has injected into the club is the real driver that has led to the improvements and without him it is my belief that the club would be in trouble.
3. Rather not comment on this.
4. Complete coincidence
5. STFC MyWorld is a licenced product that generates money for the club
6. It is my understanding that funding is in place but obviously they are looking to create a self funding club going forward
7. Sangita is a fantastic addition to any board but I have no idea as to the current status of her appointment, but rest assured whatever Sangita does is the correct thing to be done at that time.
8. Its about 20 and very nice..

Thanks Steve for the answers you can give, understand the caveat. So how is Lee Power remunerated? Is he a salaried employee, a salaried director, an investor who hopes to make a return on his investment or some combination of the latter two?

I didn't post this. If the mods want to reply to my posts, that's fine, but please don't edit them instead by mistake (I assume that's what happened)!

Thanks ever so much for giving us the permission to respond to your posts.

Ooops, sorry. I have a habit of clicking the wrong bastard buttons.

I was more kind of asking you not to edit them really. Sarcy twat.

No worries. Can you slap sonic with a wet herring for me?

Calm down, Kim Jong-un.

He's got better hair than me

Fair enough, that's a reasonable point, hadn't thought of that.

How the the online ticketing tie in with My World aside from the loyalty points? Are they separate systems as I recall ticketzone(?) being mentioned during the summer.

Also, what is your favourite cheese?

They are separate systems but we are working with Ticketmaster to integrate and rollout to other clubs.

I would say I like Brie best, especially a bacon and brie sandwich...  not too controversial I hope..

It's not him, you know.

So in effect we've been a guinea pig? Not that I'm complaining, the system has worked fairly well for me so far.

It's a bit of a boring choice but a perfectly respectable one.

STFC has defo been a testing ground to iron out any issues, but leading the curve will bring in quicker revenues..

Is this equally owned between you and Jed, if you manage to roll out elsewhere is it all profit to you and jed or will stfc benefit from anything

The more it rolls out, the more members generate money and STFC do get kick back from this so if it's successful then it gives back to members and clubs..

You in flames today SY.

Steve:

1. What was it like for you working at STFC? Can you talk about some of the stresses or pressures?
2. Are you glad to be gone or would you like to come back at some point?
3. With you 'insider knowledge' of the business, what advice would you give us fans? Should we be happy or worried?

Good, fucking grief

Oh, I thought he was just taking the piss. Didn't realise I'd upset him. Oh well, these semi-Vikings are all a bit temperamental :)

I thought he was actually taking the piss and having a laugh. It genuinely made me laugh out loud, and that's kind of rare on the internet. (It made me spit a whole pint of tea over my laptop while I convulsed in amusement.)

I was simply implying in a Callum Kennedy street-style, that he's on fire. :)

Edit: and this had been said shortly before my post as well, which raised a chuckle.

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=53001.msg1237198#msg1237198

Oh good so I got it right first time round. Then whooshed myself. Not sure whether that leaves me ahead of the game or not. I suspect not. Damn you mods and your too-subtle-for-me dry humour!!

A pint of tea Barry, not a mug, a pint? Even my classy sports direct mug isn't that big.

To get a whole pint of tea into your mouth is impressive. Do you have giant hamster cheeks?

I bet Jed drinks tea from a pint mug

Like everyone else online, I always have a mouthful of tea when reading and I just found a pint meant less refills. If I sense something's going to be funny, I take a fresh mouthful and hold it, so as to ensure I carry on the tradition of spitting tea over my keyboard when reading something high on the lulz scale.

Hi Nomoreheroes

1. It was great, the day to day pressures of working in the club revolve predominantly around the financial pressures but the operational and sales team I had were great and deserve the fans respect as much as the team on the pitch. I think I did quite a few good improvements and left the business in a better position to survive as a self sufficient model, but have no doubt it is not there yet and the current board are having to support that short fall.

2.  It was nice to wake up on the first Monday after leaving and realise the stress was no longer mine, however I would never rule out coming and offering my support should Jed need any assistance in the future.

3.  I think you should as fans always understand that anything can happen, look at what people bring and what their plans are, I would suggest Jed is in it because he really is a footy fan, not everyone in the future may just be in it for that.  Overall though as long as everyone plays their part then I think the fans should be happy with where we have got to and maintain hope for the future that things go to plan..

Hope that helps..

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Hi Steve, did you steal Jed's watch when this photo was taken?

I like Jed, proper fan, wears his heart on his sleeve

It's funny as I was looking down the table whilst Jed was talking on air, I have to say it does look a bit dodgy..  The worry is I have only seen bad pictures of myself, just must be the way I look...  Oh well never mind.  Good win today though..

Steve, can you fit a whole pint of tea in your mouth? And can anyone else on the current board? If not, are there any plans to recruit someone who can in order to remedy this vital skill deficit?

You're just missing the mask! Don't worry, you're more photogenic than me.

Great win. We can now look forward to Orient next Saturday.

Not measured this particular skill, just tried with a beer and it didn't go well.  I can confirm Jed does drink tea from a mug, I will bring the requirement to the boards attention, it is clearly a vital requirement..

Gents/ladies & Steve

Going forward may I suggest Steve be given a Nic, like Muzza for instance? Reading "hi Steve" type posts seems....., well there are things that come to mind I ought not post so for me you are Muzza.

PS, 'twas my half eaten chip and my sons tray that you enjoyed before the Chelsea game. Top bloke IMHO.

Best wishes for the future Muzza.

Unfortunately Steve, you do look like you hold the world record for being the 'Shiftiest Man Ever' as officially verified by Norris McWhirter of the Guiness Book of Records in that picture. You must have trained for months to achieve that look  8)

Great win today though as you say.

Well Muz was my nic name at school so there you go.

Really enjoyed the chip !!

There you go then folks, it's Muz..  :D

Your welcome Muz

It's nice to hold some kind of record...

Evening Steve, just a couple of questions from me, firstly please can we have a blow by blow account of the board room fracas which saw Gary Hooper get the boot?

My second question is have you had any contact with Callum Rice since his departure - did he go back to 'working the cruises' and would you say that his appointment was simply a case of 'jobs for the boys'?

Hi, I didn't see the fracas but it wasn't the reason Gary left.  Both Gary and Callum left when the board was restructured after we had reviewed what the club needed, neither left on a negative note to my knowledge.  If it was jobs for the boys it wasn't long lived..

Have spoken to Gary since he left but not to Callum, I didn't know Callum before this venture..

Muz you twat, it's Muz.

Big fan of the show Steve?

Don't call him that, Crispy's mates will organise a piss-up/scrap/demo against him

That was an odd one that. His involvement pretty much epitomised why I (and many others I'm sure) had serious doubts at the time. I mean, a 6 bed B&B owner from Lincoln with no apparent business or football background, no obvious 'role', no links to the club and nothing to offer in terms of investment, who was (presumably) picking up a salary and / or perks?

Also, Greg Hall. What the fuck happened there?

I was one of the many who were baffled by Callum's involvement.  With the benefit of hindsight, I think (and Steve/Muz may be able to confirm) that he had a background in events promotion in & around Bedfordshire (?), and his remit was to look at the scope for staging concerts at the County Ground on a regular basis.

If that was the case (ie his having a very narrow, project-based remit), it was not very well communicated at the outset...leading many of us to wonder what the hell he was doing there.  May have been a little unkind, in retrospect.

Frankly If they were looking for someone with events experience, then I would have done it for them.  More experience and contacts than that fella.

And Id do it for just 1 merc and a season ticket.

I'd be your able assistant. Also for 1 merc and a season ticket.

But neither of you look like Rick Wakeman.  Probably.

I could pass for Rick Waller if that helps at all?

I think his involvement was about concerts and in hindsight he may well of done a better job than the event that actually happened...  And the Greg Hall episode I can't spread any light on that particular time at all, was a bit confused myself on that one.

Thanks Steve.

I have this mental image of the club being a bit Heath-Robinson during Diamandis time and then being made more professional under the previous Board. It then seems that you came in and made things a bit more efficient and modern. Is that a fair assessment or am I way off the mark?

I'd also be interested to hear how and why you became involved and what your initial thought were on day one when you came in and saw the reality of the situation?

Hmmm.

  :sherlock:

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In my opinion the previous board were professional at board level but there was a disconnect from board to operations.  The CEO was fantastic in communication externally and presenting a real top level image, however the decision making seemed to be made at operational level without real guidance so nothing was really going to evolve. I would say there were hard decisions to make as soon as we arrived, we didn't flinch and we stood firm to make those decisions.

When we arrived there were too many staff for a club of this size, no real guidance for the operational manager, who I have to say was and is in my opinion doing a great job.  I believe I have left it at the right staffing levels and hopefully with the right structure to deliver Jeds vision.

Thanks again Steve - I expect you have gone to bed now, but interested to know one last thing. You have obviously looked on here (and presumably other sites) from time to time. There have been some nice and some very 'uncharitable' comments made at various times about you and your ex-colleagues. I wonder if you could shed light on how you and maybe some of your ex-colleagues have felt about the comments?

Well Jed has a very thick skin, so he took it in his stride, I on the other hand didn't have thick skin and at the beginning I took the accusations and comments very personally, contemplating walking away a few times, but I knew we were trying to do the right thing for the club and am very pleased that I stuck with it.

I must say though I also received a lot of complementary communications, especially when speaking directly to fans so it wasn't all bad...

As someone who takes things rather personally, I can well understand!

So what does the future hold for you now? Are you working in Malta or holidaying?

I have  a number of projects on the go that I need to start concentrating on, taking time out in Malta but have interests over here too.

Just going to enjoy things for a bit after a very testing 10 months..

You sound a decent guy Steve, good luck on going, I haven't met you, but have spoken a few times with Jed who also comes across well,  guess I'm saying as far as the club is concerned I feel it is being looked after quite well at the present time.

Good luck. Thanks for taking time out to answer questions and thanks for your efforts at STFC.

Enjoy Malta....please take in Popeyes village and funky cold Medina....

Is the glass factory still in Medina?

Hi Steve

Can you send me Lee Power's number so I can call him a prick please.

Thanks

Why ?

Re Steve's last post, Mike Diamandis was not part of the last board, but the administration before that. Overspending aside (the benefactor model does work if the benefactor sticks around) the fans were almost universally supportive of Andrew Fitton, Jeremy Wray et al.

Dunno....my ex girlfriend went to school there.....1970s...

Is the glass factory still in Medina?


It was a tongue in cheek question really. was fucking hot in there in the summer of 1980, my first trip abroad. Which lends some weight to the expression "Sweating like a glass blowers arse"

Had a nice day today in the sun...  what's with the Lee thread?  Has something happened?

Dingli Cliffs?

I don't think anyone here knows what is behind the recent anti-Power stuff on Twitter. Clearly, you don't either. Got any ideas?

No idea apart from he never seems to try and make any friends, probably doesn't think he needs any, I'm sure we can all appreciate that actually you do need mates or at least need people on your side..

I've been hunting around the internet for a possible source of indignation, but it seems to be a spontaneous outbreak of hysteria without a reasonable cause. As this and the J. Wray thread show though, a little communication can go a long way to winning the goodwill of the fans, and I think in this case we're probably seeing the inverse, where rumour and paranoia spread to fill the gap left by a lack of information.

Steve

The accounts release earlier this week showed as at the end of May cash had fallen to around £150k.  This sounds low. Is there now more cash in the club to aid the day to day running.

Also can you shed any light if there is truth some supplier have not been paid and have threatened legal action?

There is certainly an undercurrent of distrust that is bound to erupt periodically - until such time as Power comes forward and explains his involvement properly.  The timing of the outbreaks is unimportant; they will happen sporadically.  And given our recent history (since 2000), Power cannot expect to maintain silence and have the fans completely on side.

When he feels able to do so, he must come clear about his position and the reasons for his involvement.  None of this has been properly explained yet.  What are the financial incentives for his involvement, for example?  What is his statutory relationship to the club?  All these questions have taken more of a back seat than otherwise they might have because of his apparent successes in the transfer market and our current involvement in the promotion race.

But he should not rely on this indefinitely.  Sooner or later, the questions will need to be answered.  While I'm slightly baffled by the reasons for the timing of the current questioning of his role on social media, I think the fact that it is happening at all is actually quite healthy.  We should be sceptical as a fan base.  The days of blind acquiescence are over.

Steve,
I know I've been asking lots of questions, but one other thing that has been nagging away at me is why KMac left. Is  there any light you can shed on this?

'Muzza' - What is your view of the role of Sangita Shah? At the time of her appointment we were told she had been brought in to improve the Board's poor PR record since the takeover. But communication is still bad. I don't count Jed's knee-jerk utterings on Twitter. I know he means well but...

From day 1 I had very specific cash flow forecasts and can assure you that monies required for the entire season were clearly defined and identified, however for the last couple of months I have had no control or input or indeed view of the financial situation so cannot answer the questions asked.  That to one side I am sure the relevant parties are in place to stand by their stated commitments to ensure the club is secure.

At least spell the guy's name right.

If you read the 2013 accounts thread it appears Shah isnt even officially listed as a director. Will be inrereating to see what SM has to say about this.

He's already answered it in the other thread. Or at least insofar as he's going to, anyway

So, in the last 2 months who has had control, input or view of the financial situation.

Ah Steve
re MyWorld
What possessed you to add that annoying pop up when buying tickets for home games - you know the one that wants you to click to share on facebook that " im going to the game "
 :badmood:

Bonus is didnt pop up when getting away tickets

Can it be shut off ? or removed by you  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Someone asked Jed earlier if he would still be going to the CG, he replied " out of respect I can't " but said he will still be cheering the lads on. Does him holding 40% of the shares not entitle him to still attend matches ?

Clearly been a bit of a disagreement with Power, probably doesn't feel its right to lord it up undermining Power's new authority. Right call in my book.

Yes sounds the best call for both parties.

Doubt all of team Jed will see it that way tho  ::)

And they are a deluded lot

I have found all of the thank you messages to Jed possibly one of the cringiest things I have seen at STFC, amazing what a quid and a load of bullshit on twitter gets you these days!

This x10

Trouble is its still going on
Gonna have to unfollow Jed methinks

 :blowup:

Why are team Jed all female?

And even lots of the blokes are acting like fannies

In other words, he won't be turning up on match day because if he does he will find a horses head on his pillow the  next morning.

Did well to avoid answering the question from Ollie.

Noticed that, he's wants to spend time helping out Luton Town with his pot of magnolia.

Come on Mr Murrall, be a man and speak.

Given that Jed & Steve are now likely to be facing an investigation for fraud/theft, he'd probably be best off keeping his mouth shut.

I'd also suggest that fellow "owners" of "our" club who post here might want to watch their P's & Q's as it would not surprise me if ex "temporary owners/custodians" of "our" club tried to sue for defamation of character and or slander. Though it beats the shit out of me how could defame or slander such upstanding pillars of the community as the venerable Mr. McCrory.......

Fuck 'em!

No thanks.

Well all I can assure you regardless of your opinions I have neither "robbed" nor taken any money from your club.  I did work hard to make  the changes to the internal structure that have been referred to in other posts.  I always explained that I was paid,  if anyone can show that I  had anything other than 50% of my contracted wage then please provide evidence.   For me Swindon was about the work I did to make it better and I am sure anyone I worked with on site will confirm.   I am sure you will all make your own mind up but those who interacted with me will know I did my best.   Steve

I notice that you only make reference to yourself not Jed with regards to taking money from the club, deliberate?

Sorry you knew what was going on and what went on.

I talk for myself, no onw else.   No accusations of wrong doing have been actually made against anyone.  So until such a time that they are then dacts are the key currency.

Do you have to contribute to the legal fees as a member of Seebeck or is all the liability on Jed's side?

So where "quote" was the £5 million YOU had ring fenced ?

Jesus.  I know Jed asked me for a fiver but that takes the scooby

Why don't you all and all your comrades fuck the fuck off you fucking swindlers

Steve, appreciate wasnt paid to you but what's your understanding of the £300,000 Power had to give Jed er al? Even the Judge couldn't understand what it was for according to the summing up?

7 grand and a car... Poverty at its finest

Any of us out there think we will end up paying his court costs? Relinquish his £1 stake for a clear deck?

Why don't you understand that not all that is reported is true.  I came to Swindon and did a job, restructured and made the business aspect better.  Your abuse is not warranted to me so please cease it.

This was a payment made to the previous directors, nothing to do with me and I can assure you that I never had any dealings in any payment made by Powers in regards to the £300k

Is a copy of the Judges written judgement knocking about to download or hasn't it been released yet?

Sorry Duke, when did I say we had £5m ring fenced?  We did have funds lined up but deals change.  However I get a bit pissed when you refer to me having money ring fenced unless I actually said this, if I did then it would be in reference to possible investors, not cash in the bank.

I have seen it but not sure if it is in the public domain yet.  You will have to check with the club.

Think it's tomorrow will check, understand if Steve wants to wait until then to answer, but it's in there

Ok ta, do appreciate you having the swingers to come on here and make your point... but....

Taking note of what has been said in court over the last few days and the judgement, can I remind you of a post you made on here on Friday, November 29, 2013, 21:41:47 ...

'I know Jed will do the right thing for the club..' 

Appreciate that, thanks, take a strange interest in reading legal judgments.

Here is the link for tomorrow.  It's not up yet.

http://www.bailii.org/recent-decisions.html#ew/cases/EWHC/Admin

And based on my knowledge that is what I thought he would do, it is down to you guys based on the evidence to make your own minds up, but my point is that I was at Swindon to do a job, the same as you go to work to do a job so regardless of your thoughts about others I will not be accused of anything as I did nothing but work hard to make the business processes better.  If anyone at all, including the current owners can show I did anything that wasn't authorised by the entire board then please bring it on..

Hi. Have been reading with interest for a long time. I would just like to ask Steve Murrall what he now thinks of Jed and is he still working with him. Maybe he was just taken in by  Jed like alot of people to start with.

Also surely Dexter/poindexter was Jed?

Sorry Steve I am getting confused, were you not a director - I had a vague recollection you were?

I don't currently have any projects on the go with Jed and I am not going to be part of the crucify Jed group as he has been good to me over the years.  I am sure time will tell who did what and when and Jed is big enough to make his own case.  I am merely making representation of what I did and inviting anyone to suggest I did wrong as I did not.

Yes I was a director, a hands on director doing a job as specified by the board.

Thanks for the reply. As you said hopefully the full facts will emerge in time.

But you said earlier that 'based on my knowledge that is what I thought he would do' as a Director would you not know what he was doing as he would (as you were as you rightly say) be answerable to the board - of which you were a part.

I am not doubting that your actions (that's sounds more abrupt that I mean it to) were entirely authorised by the board, but equally were Jed's activities not subject to the same scrutiny -therefore what changed your opinion to suggest that you 'thought' the right thing was what Jed would do - suggesting you don't think that now?

Happy to see links already here but Trust will tweet it as soon as it's up, as, I suspect, will Adver and others

Please understand that after Mr Power and Ms Shah became part of the board I was side lined, not invited to board meetings and effectively pushed out.  Look back on the photos of when Mark Cooper was unveiled as manager, I was not invited to the photo opportunity on the pitch.  Now I realised I was a short term fixture and had knew my tenure would be short lived but I had a 12 month contract and this should have been honoured.

Steve you can see emotions run pretty high and fair play to respond the way you do.
I quoted you word for word as said in the sponsors suite in front of 4 people.
I could talk about a gun incident and others but choose to keep things away from boards.
Not saying you know anything about this but you may.
You build up a picture over time.
Only you know what you did and if you can sleep at night knowing you are innocent then fair play.

Hold up buttercup.... 'a gun incident' eh?

I was at the presentation that night too... And where is the audit??

Audit was completed and there were no issues, I have no idea why Sangita never released the results.  You woul dhave to ask the current team  :)

Can the Duke expand on the gun incident, I did hear something but I think I was often the last to know..

If he's not going to expand then he's a bellend for posting that.

So why no release? I had shares and own a season ticket so I think I have a right to know...

No idea.  I agree you should see the results and I expected them to be released well before I left.

Watching this affair pan out from afar...

Steve, am I right to suggest that you all saw this as a great opportunity to secure a good financial living with a subscriber base of approximately 7.5k

7.5k loyal supporters of a football club for many, many years.

You and your crew were basically given this opportunity by Blacks decision to quit it for a quid.

It's easy to say you worked dam hard...but be truthful why did you bunch get involved in the first place  ?

Was it just the money or the kudos / ego ?

   

Hi Robin

I was invited to join the group in order to bring my business organisation skills (and I had earned a good living from these skills prior) to the club, restructure and concentrate on the business, that is what I did.  I have no ownership or share holding.  For what it is worth I really enjoyed my time at the club and would be happy to list the significant contribution I made to the changes that had to be made.  There was nothing more in it for me than making a difference whilst earning a salary that was one quarter of that of the previous GM/CEO.  I was removed from my post without due process and I am sure anyone on here would be a bit annoyed if that happened to them, however I wish everyone all the best and hope that the club continues to move forward.

Hi Steve,

I give you ten out of ten for having the courage and making the effort to reply. 

Yes, I can understand that you were given the task to review and manage the clubs business affairs when these people first had gotten involved.

My understanding is that you were also a Director of the company / club. The responsibilities of a director are far more reaching than an employee.

As Banbury said earlier, you and only you know what was really going on whilst your involvement with the club and if you can sleep easily with that ...good on you.

However, it was your personal responsibility as a Director to do everything for the good of the company / club and within the law.

As suggested, if there were dishonest dealings happening whilst you were a Board member or Director I suggest you are equally as guilty.

Steve, I really suggest that in the future you are more selective with whom you "get into bed with" as you are likely to catch even bigger virus's / crabs than these obviously were....

Good luck in the future my friend. :bye:









       

Honestly, Stevies replies since the judgement are fucking laughable! If you are an appointed Director of a company, you have certain legal obligations as I would hope you're aware of. As such, giving it the old 'I was sidelined' or a bit of 'it's not my fault' not to mention the classic 'I didn't know' is fucking bollocks. Along with your rights, come certain responsibilities and perhaps we should be looking at your suitability as a company director for the future?

Perhaps if he spent as much time examining the books as he did examining the beer he would have been a bit more aware of what was going on... ;)

Ironside, where did I say I didn't know or it's not my fault.  Nowhere.   I purely told the facts.  I have been and will continue to be a director of companies and am fully aware of my responsibilities, however a board is made up of a number of individuals and you need to work together to make decisions, when there is a breakdown in that team it's not as easy as you would think to continue with your duties.    Unless you know the facts of the interaction between the 4 board members then I suggest that your attack on me is uncalled for and quite nasty.  

I take it you don't like a drink then?  I worked hard at the club and if I liked a pint then why not.

Steve, would you agree that the adver photos and club photos of yourself made you look quite shifty, almost sinister looking?

Defo!!!  However I tried to speak to and share info with as many people who would interact with me, I think those who did may have found me less shifty / sinister...  over to those who did speak to me, I may of course be incorrect.

:clap:

Steve, don't you think it's time to fuck off now?

Well nice to speak to you too.  I have only answered questions I was asked but feel free not to read / interact if it's not for you.

I'm a moderator you cunt. I have to read this shit.

And such a pleasant person.

You're letting the power go to your head.

Anyway, what's next for Team Jed?

No idea Audrey.  I am as previously stated concentrating on my own businesses.   You will have to ask Jed directly.

Non-football related I take it?

INDEED !!

You have stated, in this thread that you were 'sidelined'. Deny?

If you were 'sidelined' and subsequently failed in your legal obligations as a company director to request and review the necessary information, and then act in the best interests of the aforementioned company, as required in order for you to fulfill your aforementioned legal obligations, you have been complacent.  therefore, you are not fit to be a company director.

Your pathetic mitigation attempts of ctrying to work with' and 'breakdown in relationships' do not absolve you from your complacency, legal obligations, or, dare I suggest, your complicity.

As reported on other thread, the full ruling is now up on the Trust site

http://www.truststfc.com/court-judgement/

I hope Mr Murrell can shed some light on this mysterious £300k Power was required to pay Jed et al.

Thought you would be aware of the embarrassing fight in the suite and the body guard gun "in my pocket"....... :) After that I considered body armour.
Different being stabbed At Millwall and shot in Swindon by presenting a MOM award in a suit.?...soapy tit wank :)
Feel more relaxed today. Wonder if Jed will finish the decorating in the Banbury lounge ?
My mate reckons the bar needs a makeover like :)

That's rich coming from you.

I spoke with you once in the Legends bar. You seemed pretty open and answered all my questions. Fair play to you, but you didn't buy me a beer so you let yourself down on that point !

Seriously though, fair play to you coming on this board and answering the questions. It is a shame that some people feel the need to abuse you.

All the best with your new venture, with or without Jed (your choice).

Can't argue with that.
As I said yesterday emotions were running pretty high. This club has a recent history of being shafted by off the field antics and fans react accordingly.
To post on a message board and be open deserves respect.
If you were the mastermind behind "My World" then that was a positive legacy.
We are all adults and as said yesterday you have to sleep with the truth. We have to make tough decisions at work effecting people, I guess if your conscious is clear then you rest more easy.
Wonder if Jed will be at Luton in the home end.

I heard about the fight but had no idea there were any mention of guns, I would have involved the police had I have known that.  It all seems quite surreal looking back. 

I have no idea about Mr Powers £300k, that must have been a deal I was not privy to.

I wish you all the best, hope the club moves forward and will keep an eye on the results, but will log off the forum for the last time tonight. 

Good luck folks.  Steve

Fuck off and don't come back you cunt.

Quite.

 :bye:

100k each to the three directors for loss of office when Power came in

Steve, a broad set of questions I know, but can you explain what the intention of the board of directors was when it took over from the Black regime, what was the purpose of the original board members, and if they received remuneration, how was it earned?

Thanks.

Uh I think he's gone mate

As, indeed, should we now!

qué?

Just meant its about time we left it and moved on

Absolutely

Move on?

The court cases haven't finished yet!

Agreed, I think we need to be dilligent on the other case as well

Exactly. I have a feeling he's as big a bullshitter as McCrory.

But now the ownership issue has been settled, the following court case has little bearing on the club going forward.

It will just confirm or deny whether they were money grabbing shysters all along - and I think we all know the answer to that one.

Don't lock the thread.

We will need the opportunity to indulge in criticism of cunts for a few years.

On top of that, Complete fucking retarded wazzock cunt scum shit stains, like Steve Murral, deserve abuse.

Steve, is there any truth in the rumour you are getting involved with the new owners at Oxford United?

Your repartee must go down a storm in the casinos of the Côte d'Azur.

Always knew you were sound when we met in OTR's B&B in sunny Blackpool.
Memorable weekend that like.

Spot on don't trust em.

He bought me a pint of cider once

I am actually a decent bloke, my mum said so.

But don't tell anyone, I've got a reputation to keep.

New owners?  What's happened there?

http://m.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/28163679

Apparently the Ashton fella is dodgy.

Astonishing!!

Here's a link to Michael Appleton's managerial career record, for anyone who wants a chuckle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Appleton#Managerial_statistics

See he has taken over Hartlepool!

??? Where did you see that ??

https://mobile.twitter.com/SaveEdgarStreet/status/544940569563512833

I hope the poor fuckers have got plenty of pairs of sunglasses for the advertising boards theyll get;)

Always had a soft spot for the monkey hangers. Don't know why.

Taken over in what capacity?

I'm guessing he's more of a general manager working for somebody else. Could this mean Jed is our of our hair? (It's been a tad quiet on that front)

No new date listed for the appeal yet, although its still showing as live - http://casetracker.justice.gov.uk/listing_calendar/getDetail.do?case_id=20142410

Seen some online news that boxing promoter Dennis Hobson heads up a consortium to take them over

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-2875866/Boxing-promoter-Dennis-Hobson-set-control-struggling-Hartlepool.html

http://www.thenorthernecho.co.uk/SPORT/11668962.display/

Doesn't look like that went through, appears to have been taken over by 'TMH 2014 Ltd' instead - http://www.eveningexpress.co.uk/news/local/aberdeen-oil-company-brings-to-an-end-17-year-ownership-of-english-football-club-1.740741

Peter Harris who is referred to in that article as having taken over as Chairman is listed as the sole Director of TMH 2014, who lives in Warwickshire with links to Banbury. So quite plausible that the Banbury mafia are behind it and that our Steve's involved somewhere....

So when's Brick Top gonna turn up?

soapy tit wank

Is there any confirmation of Murrell's involvement other than the Hereford lot's assertion? (I'm sure they're right, just curious as to whether they've got some back up for it, or just an unconfirmed rumour?)

Looks like the sort of deal that Jed and Co would be attracted to - http://www.hartlepoolmail.co.uk/news/local/hartlepool-united-chairman-says-club-is-debt-free-after-ior-wiped-off-14m-1-7008913

I am not sure if there is any direct evidence, the new chairman and Mr Murrall have shared some common directorships (Blue Husky) and also have companies registered at the same address?

It does too. Maybe this is going to be a standard MO? Find a wealthy but fed up owner who's prepared to wipe out all the debt and sell the club on debt-free for a quid, rip what you can out, then move on to the next bunch of mugs

Fit and proper in no way, shape or form.

Yeah reads exactly the same as when we had the same "good news" That wont end well, hope the pools fans suss it quick.

Lick my Arse Orifice TMH stands for The Monkey Hangers

It is sad to see 'Pools fans going through exactly the same process we did - first the hope, then once some history emerged - the caveated hope. Finally the same realisation once things start going downhill. Problem is, their path will probably be more like Hereford...

It really needs a David Conn etc article to go through what happened here and at Hereford to give a warning to others. Pools keep finding old Adver articles about what a great job Ged/Jed and Steve were doing.
Can't blame them, they just want to hope that things might turn out okay.

In all seriousness has anyone raised this with someone like David Conn, he is on twitter so someone could get in touch?

David Conn is pretty much full time on the Hillsborough enquiry at the moment.

Which has gone a bit Dan Brown in the last few days with Masonic conspiracies and the like.

From today's T'Independent.  Had to smile about the paragraph on the "experience of those behind TMH":

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/hartlepool-uniteds-bet-on-new-owners-to-make-monkey-of-survival-odds-9934531.html

Good thing they've got an easy game tomorrow!   :)

My Twitter feed was full of scousers saying Hillsborough was a Masonic conspiracy the other day

Ok then..

Twitter say Hereford issued with a compulsory winding up order

http://www.herefordtimes.com/news/11679712.Hereford_United__Winding_up_order___Bulls_in_court_today/

What a shambles way to end - Really feel sorry for Hereford fans.



4:43pm

We believe that a lawyer speaking for the council said the local authority had  considerable concerns about the security of Edgar Street and "people entering the ground".

4:42pm

The registrar has made an order for the company to be wound up

4:41pm

When asked where Andrew Lonsdale was, the club's representative could not say

4:41pm

He said Andrew Lonsdale was stuck in traffic and had the evidence to prove the funds were in place
 

4:40pm

The representative for the club said he understood that a money transfer had been made but he had no evidence to prove that was the case

Crooks

does this mean Hereford fans can start again a la AFC Wimbledon without the crooked leeches. what happens to Edgar Street?

Looks like the ground reverts back to the council as the club leases it.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-hereford-worcester-30542821

Agombar's band of crooks weren't at court because they were running round the ground nicking stuff even as the club was being wound up, according to Hereford fans. Utter, utter scum

They told the court that Lonsdale was stuck in traffic :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Surely you would try and get there early for a hearing of that status

Not if you were busy stealing everything you could from the ground, you wouldn't. Allegedly.

Did they get that giant bull mascot?

Get a few good steaks out of that.

What they actually said was there was an agreement between senior cops who were masons to pin blame on individual not the cop in charge, who was also a leading Mason. The allegations were made by a  police man serving in the South Yorkshire force at the time, not by 'scousers'.

Knowing what else was covered up at that time it's frighteningly plausible

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/14833525.Former_Swindon_Town_manager_faces_fraud_trial/

Well, that explains him logging in from Malta then :)

Isn't that what the present Watford kerfuffle is all about as well

All I've read about that was that a false document is alleged to have been presented as proof of funds to the EFL as part of the FPP test.

Murrall's seems to have that too,  and added alleged HMRC fraud and also  business misrepresentations

Was it Murrall who used to engage on here occasionally, and also claimed to have invented on line ticketing and loyalty schemes?

Yup. Implemented, not invented. Or rang up Ticketmaster as its otherwise known.

And to be fair ticketing is a shit load better than it used to be.

Just read back the thread, there's a load of his posts here.  Steve should have gone into politics, he'd make a good Tory MP.

Yeah, its an interesting read, he mentions Ticketmaster here TBF:


But my favourite quote was:

THis was another favourite moment in the thread.....

Evening Steve.

Do you think Lee Power is a bit of a power tripping nobhead?

Have been hearing he is pissing a lot of people off

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/15596837.Former_Swindon_Town_General_Manager_warned_to_expect_prison_after_fraud_trial/?ref=rss&utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Good. The twat.

I'll never really forgive Seton Wills for failing to do proper due diligence on the group of shady misfits he sold the club to.  Not the actions of a true fan, and impossible to argue that he had the best interests of the club at heart.

It was Black that sold it to those wankers wasnt it?

I miss those Dexter posts.

What a time to be on TEF that was...

:-[

You are quite right.

Rest easy now. Not guilty and reputation intact.
As Nelson once said. “Thank god I did my duty.”
Few messages from “Up North” the last few days.
Good luck Hartlepool ...... hope you get back in the FL soon.
Night Steve ;)

pass the soap carefully Steve.

Just read back the thread, there's a load of his posts here.  Steve should have gone into politics, he'd make a good Tory MP.

Wrong thread Sir Reg of the Multitude.

As you bought it up he’d make a good MP period, irrespective of the colour of the rosette.

Christ, that's not fucking about.

I'll be his pen pal at this rate

Bet he's glad he's not pretty now. I see "the government have also asked that he step aside from running a business"* for 9 years.




* (c) M Diamandis

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=52997.msg1236912#msg1236912

That pic though

Mugshot ready!

He hasn't posted for 3 years  :sherlock:

And now won't be for the next 8 (maybe 4 with good behaviour)

You almost have to feel sorry for him.  The VAT fraud he attempted was a bog standard scam that they teach accounting students about in any Intro to Tax course.  That shower (Jed, Murrall, the Rick Wakeman look-a-like fella) always gave the impression that they were hopelessly out of their depth - & Steve's now confirmed that with his 8 stretch.  Plonker.

He has a better karma score than most on here

I'd love to have a sit down with Murrall, with a few beers, and ask him just how, exactly, he was expecting to get away with this:

He also said in this in court.... ’ :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

He would have got away with it were it not for those pesky kids.....

Love the "claimed they had the gate receipts paid into the THM account because there was petty theft throughout the club". So they solved the petty theft by replacing it with massive fraud, simples!

If I may say it shows a rather lively moral compass to suggest that faking documents and forging signatures is not acting dishonestly....

Murrally bankrupt

:D Superb work!

Indeed, I must admit I didn't see it the first time in passing but splendid effort!

Hadnt seen this before but the guy obviously never learnt his lesson

https://www.worcesternews.co.uk/news/19970917.conman-walks-free-worcester-court-44-000-fraud/