Title: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: News Monkey on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:00:02 Storey gets England call
SWINDON Town striker Miles Storey has been named as standby for England Under 19s upcoming clash with Finland. http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/10018434.Storey_gets_England_call/?ref=rss Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Gnasher on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:06:46 Well done Miles. What a week for the lad!
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: leefer on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:44:01 Lets hope he gets a run out.
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:52:27 He's only on standby.
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: leefer on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:53:50 Good point. ::)
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 16:56:12 He's only on standby. Also probably for the best if he stays on standby...recent Engalnd u19 "stars" include Frank Nouble and John Bostock, both finding it difficult to establish themselves as proper players. Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: herthab on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:05:33 Also him remaining on standby, but not actually in the squad, means he'd be available for us.
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: dphunt88 on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:24:03 The game against Finland is on Tuesday 13th November - a date when Town don't currently have a fixture, so he should be fine unless we draw against Macclesfield Town on Saturday, in which case the replay would be that night.
Great week for young Miles as others have said; 23rd: comes on at Crewe and makes a positive impact 27th: starts first professional game at Stevenage, scoring one with his head and having another header brilliantly saved (later reveals he's not scored a header in 9 years of youth team football!) 30th: replaces James Collins in the 75th minute against Villa and has two goals under his belt by the 81st minute! Becomes darling of sell-out crowd. 31st: put on standby for England U'19s after it's revealed that Stuart Pearce was at the county ground for the Villa tie. Now that Andy Williams is fully fit again and Adam Rooney's loan doesn't expire until the end of the season, what's the best next steps for Storey? My own personal view is that he needs to be playing every week now and he won't get that under Di Canio for a while - especially as we don't have a Reserve team. Perhaps his 3 goals in 2 games will make him a far more attractive proposition for a League 2 side to take on loan now? Only 10 days ago, you'd have been struggling to find a Conference side willing to take him on. Someone like Aldershot, Wycombe, Bristol Rovers, etc. Fairly local and in need of a decent striker. I must stress, i don't want rid of Miles. Much rather he continued his development here but 3 months at Aldershot in League 2 would toughen him up a treat ready for our assault at promotion into the new year. Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:26:02 Also him remaining on standby, but not actually in the squad, means he'd be available for us. Very true....here's that England squad from 2010, that contained Nouble and Bostock. 1 GK Declan Rudd Norwich City 2 DF Nathaniel Clyne Crystal Palace 3 DF Matthew Briggs Fulham 4 MF Matty James (c) Manchester United 5 DF Steven Caulker Tottenham Hotspur 6 DF Nathan Baker Aston Villa 7 MF Jacob Mellis Chelsea 8 MF Dean Parrett Tottenham Hotspur 9 FW Ryan Noble Sunderland 10 FW Nathan Delfouneso Aston Villa 11 FW Frank Nouble West Ham United 12 MF John Bostock Tottenham Hotspur 13 GK Lee Nicholls Wigan Athletic 14 DF Thomas Cruise Arsenal 15 DF Reece Brown Manchester United 16 DF Josh Thompson Celtic 17 FW Matt Phillips Wycombe Wanderers 18 FW Ryan Donaldson Newcastle Un Got taken apart by Spain in a match I remember watching....not many from that side look like stepping up apart maybe from Caulker. Spain had Martin Montoya and Marc Bartra, who now get a bit of game time with Barca....Montoya looks seriously good. Thiago Alcantara, has been something of a Barca regular, over the last 18 months albeit used in rotation, also Iker Muniain, a Bilbao regular...and their great white hope Sergio Canales, who went to Real at same time as The Special One, and seems to have fallen out with him. All of which shows how difficult it is to move up from that level to even making a decent career for yourself. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Coca Fola on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:42:05 Clyne plays in the premier league now.
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: leefer on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:47:59 Also probably for the best if he stays on standby...recent Engalnd u19 "stars" include Frank Nouble and John Bostock, both finding it difficult to establish themselves as proper players. That is true Reg though the difference i feel is that most of the others are/were at big clubs where it is always a struggle to get games. My feeling is he will be getting plenty of game time for us in the next few months. Say Austin had joined Man U or say Spurs he could well be languishing in the reserves still or even back to non league....he played games for us instead and the rest is history...let us hope that Miles has a similar Storey :D Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 17:48:23 Clyne plays in the premier league now. I'll give you Clyne, but I think the point largely stands, that being thought of as one of the better players in England at 18/19 doesn't guarantee you anything. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Ƭ̵̬̊: The Artist Formerly Known as CWIG on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 18:20:39 There's no way we should loan out Storey. To me he should be above Rooney in the pecking order based on merit and is a great plan B coming off the bench. Start the odd game here or there and play about an hour-70 mins. He really should start on Saturday.
Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: reeves4england on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 18:29:43 Fair play to him for impressing so much. Although surely this raises questions about England's youth selection policy? No hint of a call up before now, then 2 impressive games and he's pushing for a spot in the squad. Has he not been watched before?
Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 18:36:39 All of which shows how difficult it is to move up from that level to even making a decent career for yourself. Think the issue is that a players quality at the age of 18 isn't much of an accurate indication of how good they will be in the future. Sure there are exceptions, Wayne Rooney for example, but they are exceptions. You could probably pick 10 different squads for under 19 level and have the same hit rate from all of them over time. Makes me wonder what the point of them is and whether they're just a waste of time and money that could be put to better use elsewhere. Storey will learn a lot more from playing in League One for us than he will for the England under 19. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 19:33:14 There's no way we should loan out Storey. To me he should be above Rooney in the pecking order based on merit and is a great plan B coming off the bench. Start the odd game here or there and play about an hour-70 mins. He really should start on Saturday. Absolutely. Saturday is the perfect game for him to get a full 90 minutes under his belt and then go from there. If he's playing well enough to be in the team, put him in the team. If he's looking knackered, rest him or stick him on the bench.Title: Re: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 19:34:32 Think the issue is that a players quality at the age of 18 isn't much of an accurate indication of how good they will be in the future. Sure there are exceptions, Wayne Rooney for example, but they are exceptions. You could probably pick 10 different squads for under 19 level and have the same hit rate from all of them over time. Makes me wonder what the point of them is and whether they're just a waste of time and money that could be put to better use elsewhere. Storey will learn a lot more from playing in League One for us than he will for the England under 19. It's interesting to look back at squads from the annual Euros in the U 19 tournaments to see who comes through, for example in 2006 Scotland unusually qualified...in their squad...Simon Ferry and Scott Cuthbert. Probably the two best names Robert Snodgrass and Graham Dorrans. Spain that year had Gerard Pique and Juan Mata... Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: jonny72 on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 19:38:56 But did playing in those tournaments actually benefit their development? Sure it gives them international experience but if they can't even get a game with their club its a bit pointless.
I'd get rid of all the under age games, spend the resources at a club level instead. Though I'd also increase the amount of international games for those on the fringes of the full squad. Something like the old B internationals but expanded. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 19:47:35 But did playing in those tournaments actually benefit their development? Sure it gives them international experience but if they can't even get a game with their club its a bit pointless. I'd get rid of all the under age games, spend the resources at a club level instead. Though I'd also increase the amount of international games for those on the fringes of the full squad. Something like the old B internationals but expanded. I'd imagine the likes of Spain, would point out how most if not all of their recent internationals, graduated from age level football, to the full side, so it must be worth doing. It could just as easily be argued though, that their young players get more opportunity at first team level, due to clubs like Barca, Espanyol and Athletic Bilbao, having a policy of bringing through young locals. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: cheltred69 on Wednesday, October 31, 2012, 20:21:58 Interesting looking at the squad list posted by Reg.
these lads are now about 21 years old and apart from Caulker (played around 90 league games in loan spells and now getting games at Spurs) none of the those at Premier League clubs look as though their career is really progressing - typically a few bit part loans to league 1 clubs or released to lower level clubs. the only other 2 that look like establishing themselves are Clyne (now at Soton after over 100 games for Palace) and Phillips who started at Wycombe and is highly rated at Blackpool. Does nothing for the argument that the top clubs are the best places for young talents to develop and supports my view that the Premier League being stacked with international stars is damaging to our national team Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Kinky Tom on Thursday, November 1, 2012, 01:15:32 there was a stat a couple of weeks ago (and this is off the top of my head so may be slightly inaccurate but not much) that said that in the region of only 1.5% of all players used (maybe regularly?) in the prem last season were english and under 21.
i can't remember where i saw this but i definitely did - very worrying. Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Wilf Shergold on Thursday, November 1, 2012, 09:38:41 Quote It could just as easily be argued though, that their young players get more opportunity at first team level, due to clubs like Barca, Espanyol and Athletic Bilbao, having a policy of bringing through young locals. It’s always interested me that in Spain the 2nd and 3rd teams of the big clubs are an integral part of the league system, so young players of, say, Barca, get game time in the equivalent of our Championship or League 1, 2 etc. Wasn’t it Real Madrid ‘reserves’ (Castilia?) who were good enough to win the Spanish Cup and played West Ham in a Euro Cup Winners Cup tie at the Boleyn behind closed doors? Not that I’m in favour of this in England because we’ll all become even more subservient to the big boys. A book well worth reading in my view is George Best and 21 Others by Colin Schindler. All about the 1964 FA Youth Cup Semi between Mans Utd and City, and what happened to the 21 players who weren’t Bestie. A sobering read, all young pro footballers should read it. That’s the year we reached the final, of course, but our 2 matches get a couple of paragraphs, no more. There’s some bitter reviews of it on Amazon from Manure – ites who clearly review books better than the Times, Indi on Sunday etc . You can buy it for 1p (plus p&p). Title: Re: Adver News: Storey gets England call Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, November 1, 2012, 10:18:02 It’s always interested me that in Spain the 2nd and 3rd teams of the big clubs are an integral part of the league system, so young players of, say, Barca, get game time in the equivalent of our Championship or League 1, 2 etc. Wasn’t it Real Madrid ‘reserves’ (Castilia?) who were good enough to win the Spanish Cup and played West Ham in a Euro Cup Winners Cup tie at the Boleyn behind closed doors? Not that I’m in favour of this in England because we’ll all become even more subservient to the big boys. A book well worth reading in my view is George Best and 21 Others by Colin Schindler. All about the 1964 FA Youth Cup Semi between Mans Utd and City, and what happened to the 21 players who weren’t Bestie. A sobering read, all young pro footballers should read it. That’s the year we reached the final, of course, but our 2 matches get a couple of paragraphs. Well of that Town side, which reached the final and played in front of a crowd of 17,000 at the CG, only Don made the grade with us....Bruce Walker played a few games and scored a marvellous goal v Forest in the Cup, he had a sweet left foot. Tony Hicks played 50 odd games over a couple of seasons in goal, without quite establishing himself and Dicky Plumb who was spoken of in another thread recently.... had a career away from the CG, was also in that side. ManUre, had Jimmy Rimmer and John Aston, both of whom were in European Cup winning sides. |