Title: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: News Monkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 06:00:07 Apologise or get out
PAOLO Di Canio has threatened to axe Wes Foderingham if the Town goalkeeper does not openly apologise for what his manager viewed as arrogance and ignorance during the 4-1 defeat at Preston. http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/9906464.Apologise_or_get_out/?ref=rss Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:32:38 I think PDC is right Wes should apologies, the way he stormed off not even shaking Bedwell's hand and then kicking a bottle. Reminded me of a 5 year old throwing a paddy
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:39:02 It was petulant and immature, yes Wes was very upset about being subbed but did not behave in a professional manner when he left the field kicking the bottle onto the pitch and storming off down the tunnel.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: inthebutt on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:40:36 Cudichini may be come free in the market....
Wes should appologyse but i doubt he will. Great keeper, great potential. We all kno PDC wot back down, even if he is wrong. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:42:31 The only thing Paolo is wrong about is taking all this into the press.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:42:42 It was petulant and immature, yes Wes was very upset about being subbed but did not behave in a professional manner Thank heavens the manager sets such a good example of maturity and professionalism then for all the players to followTitle: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:44:58 Thank heavens the manager sets such a good example of maturity and professionalism then for all the players to follow What has he done to the same extent since being here?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:45:17 The only thing Paolo is wrong about is taking all this into the press. ..... or more to the point, what he said to the press. The ultimatum was very foolish and could leave us without a senior keeper. Doesn't absolve Wes of responsibility though. From what I've heard Wes was acting a cock even before he was subbed. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bathtime on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:45:48 Uh.......how many clean sheets has Wes had...? how can anyone think DiCanio is right about this...?
Wes will bugger off now and we will be left with an 18 year old goalkeeper....fan fucking tastic. But DiCanio is untouchable......wot.....? :hmmm: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: bobby barnes jink on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:46:15 It's something we have to accept. Personally, I can handle PDC's no-nonsense approach. It's the washing of dirty linen in public that I find difficult to take. They were just having a big laugh about it on Sky News. Trouble is PDC is starting to become a parody of himself. He can be fairly unprofessional himself in all honesty.
Still, he is what he is. In sickness and in health and all that. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:46:35 What has his done to the same extent since being here? So you didn't hear the 20 minute dummy spitting tantrum on the radio yesterday? Or when Caddis was booted out? It's like having a teenage girl as manager.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:48:00 They both went ott. I'm hoping this has now been sorted behind closed doors and hands shook-agreed to move on.
The danger with individual player bust ups is that they can spread to others. Eventually that will happen here if Di canio continues to slate players and have bust ups with them. They can't all be shipped out and him then going hands held out to the chairman for replacements. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:48:01 Uh.......how many clean sheets has Wes had...? how can anyone think DiCanio is right about this...? Wes will bugger off now and we will be left with an 18 year old goalkeeper....fan fucking tastic. But DiCanio is untouchable......wot.....? :hmmm: ALL players are expected to tow the line, Wes is no exception. And who the fuck said Di Canio is untouchable? Asides from nobody, that is. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:48:10 ..... or more to the point, what he said to the press. The ultimatum was very foolish and could leave us without a senior keeper. Doesn't absolve Wes of responsibility though. From what I've heard Wes was acting a cock even before he was subbed. Yeah he's backed himself into a corner with that one. I don't care that he's taken Fods off, he's perfectly entitled to. As I said over on FF and on Twitter and on here actually, they should all take a leaf out of Connell's book. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:48:39 Uh.......how many clean sheets has Wes had...? how can anyone think DiCanio is right about this...? Uh.....the clean sheets are the defence not just the keeper....di canio is the manager he manages this team he makes the decision. not wes not you not me not wray only PDC. If Players think they are immune from being subbed then they are fools.Wes will bugger off now and we will be left with an 18 year old goalkeeper....fan fucking tastic. But DiCanio is untouchable......wot.....? :hmmm: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:50:44 Uh.....the clean sheets are the defence not just the keeper....di canio is the manager he manages this team he makes the decision. not wes not you not me not wray only PDC. If Players think they are immune from being subbed then they are fools. On the flip side, those goals conceeded were collective mistakes. Not down to the keeper alone who was singled out Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:51:15 ..... or more to the point, what he said to the press. The ultimatum was very foolish and could leave us without a senior keeper. Absolutely right on both points. What Di Canio said was probably correct and Foderingham probably did need taking down a peg or two. But in private. Not even in front of the rest of the team, much less the whole world.Doesn't absolve Wes of responsibility though. From what I've heard Wes was acting a cock even before he was subbed. He's pretty much backed Foderingham into a corner that almost forces him out. And pretty much publicly ripped up the contract of one of our most valuable playing assets because that interview's constructive dismissal with spades on. Foderingham's agent must have spent last night pissing himself with laughter while he rang round every Championship manager offering them one of the best keepers in the League on a free for "only a small consideration for the agent" Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:51:57 I worry a little about the potential divide that this could cause in the dressing room. We all know what happened when DW 'lost' the dressing room.
I don't think that has happened here yet, but there is certainly a strong chance that it could unfortunately. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:52:07 So you didn't hear the 20 minute dummy spitting tantrum on the radio yesterday? Or when Caddis was booted out? It's like having a teenage girl as manager. He did it on the radio he was asked a question he answered it honestly he never kicked a bottle and stormed off after Wes which he could have he let it go. Is he not allowed to speak the truth can he not air his feelings? He is the voice of our team he speaks for the fans(obviously not all of us)Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bathtime on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:54:43 Uh.....the clean sheets are the defence not just the keeper....di canio is the manager he manages this team he makes the decision. not wes not you not me not wray only PDC. If Players think they are immune from being subbed then they are fools. And what are they if they think the manager is immune from any sort of control...? or is that ok. You can`t go off on one every time you lose a game or if someone makes a mistake. Wes is 20 / 21 years old and has without question been a part of our success - he is the guy making the saves after all. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:56:13 On the flip side, those goals conceeded were collective mistakes. Not down to the keeper alone who was singled out If PDC would of made 2 changes instead of just Wes would this of happened? maybe not. i agree though wes has been singled out but wes has not done himself any favoursTitle: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 10:56:40 he is the guy making the saves after all. Not yesterday he wasn't. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:00:45 He did it on the radio he was asked a question he answered it honestly he never kicked a bottle and stormed off after Wes which he could have he let it go. Is he not allowed to speak the truth can he not air his feelings? There's speaking the truth and there's having a self-indulgent tantrum. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, grossly unprofessional and has almost certainly (again) cost the club hundreds of thousands in trashing the value of one of our most valuable playing assets.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:06:50 There's speaking the truth and there's having a self-indulgent tantrum. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, grossly unprofessional and has almost certainly (again) cost the club hundreds of thousands in trashing the value of one of our most valuable playing assets. Wes has just trashed the whole club by how he acted most fans probably think all our players are like this. If wes would have took it on the chin di canio would of never of had a "Tantrum" if Di Canio would have refused to give an interview people would cry about that. By the way are you not used to him doing this by now? and if not why listen to him?And the part about trashing the value of wes well he has had a hand in this by throwing his own tantrum Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:11:42 I blame the football league for this, if they'd given us a saturday fixture against anyone else or even the town/city/shithole (*delete as apporiate) for having that trade guild thingy meaning the match couldn't take place on saturday then it wouldn't have caused any problems and we'd all happy as larry right. posting on the trival happy thread.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:13:09 Foderingham behaved unprofessionally, no two ways about it. I expect better from any half-competent manager, both in terms of behaving as an adult, never mind a professional, and in terms of man management.
Di Canio is behaving like a self-indulgent spoiled teenager and it is costing the club hundreds of thousands. So long as that is balanced with largely upward results, he'll get away with it. Once he hits a wobble though, he's leaving himself nowhere to go. I wonder if that's at least in part deliberate - burning the bridges behind him as a way of trying to force himself to succeed? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:13:20 Wes has just trashed the whole club by how he acted most fans probably think all our players are like this. By kicking a water bottle. Really? I don't think so. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:14:06 By kicking a water bottle. Really? I don't think so. I've burned all my old Town shirts in shame because of WaterBottleGate.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:16:00 By kicking a water bottle. Really? I don't think so. That all you got? :clap:Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:18:19 Interesting points made here.
Makes you come down with an almighty bump alright. Very sad to witness that yesterday after clocking up more miles and cost. Damage limitation is I can get over a loss more than losing a quality keeper. I wish these issues were kept in the dressing room as they just back people into difficult corners. Players, Manager and Board. To put another spin on the whole saga I see Caddis was MOM Saturday no surprises and a great player as is Fodds. Please, please, please not another player casulty this early in the season. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:19:21 I've burned all my old Town shirts in shame because of WaterBottleGate. Not very green is it? Surely better to have cut them up and used them for stuffing a cushion or something. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:20:12 Damage limitation is I can get over a loss more than losing a quality keeper. Nail on the head as usual Duke. I wish these issues were kept in the dressing room as they just back people into difficult corners. Players, Manager and Board. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: carbonwhite on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:20:35 Interesting points made here. It would have until the after match interview from pdc. if not for wes, damn you wes.Makes you come down with an almighty bump alright. Very sad to witness that yesterday after clocking up more miles and cost. Damage limitation is I can get over a loss more than losing a quality keeper. I wish these issues were kept in the dressing room as they just back people into difficult corners. Players, Manager and Board. To put another spin on the whole saga I see Caddis was MOM Saturday no surprises and a great player as is Fodds. Please, please, please not another player casulty this early in the season. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:20:48 So in different ways, they're both to blame for the fuckfest the club is now embroiled in. Until both parties recognise this - and both parties apologise for their part in it - we'll get a Mexican stand off, nothing will get resolved, and Wes will be gone. Just like Caddis.
We've seen this before. Unless someone gets them in a room - and Jeremy Wray is probably the only person who can do that - bangs some heads together and gets a genuine apology from both sides, then I'm not optimistic. And one final thing. Who benefits from all of this being trailed on live radio? The players? No. The manager? No. (Media thinks he's a figure of fun at the moment.) The fans? No. (One thing we all seem to be united on is that these conversations would be so much more productive and motivational if they happened in private.) The club? No. I'm struggling here. Actually, no I'm not. The opposition? Yes. Any of our regular detractors (Oxford etc.) or anyone who fancies having a pop at STFC? Yes. If there is one lesson learned from this, please let it be that PDC should not have sole discretion about what gets said to the media. He needs support and advice in this area. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:24:17 He needs support and advice in this area. Who will Di Canio take advice from? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:24:37 By kicking a water bottle. Really? I don't think so. The sad thing was that he didn't even connect with that very well! It was blindingly obvious fro the 1st goal that something wasn't right in the back 5 as they played like they barely knew each other and were just arguing all the time, I do wonder if there is more than meets the eye to this. Don't get me started on Navarro who seemed to spend the first 20 mins berating everyone around him! This whole case seems to illustrate the paradox of modern football and perceived player power, everyone moans that they have too much power, then if they are substituted 20 mins in they have been disrespected. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:25:37 There is one lesson learned from this, please let it be that PDC should not have sole discretion about what gets said to the media. He needs support and advice in this area. I don't think anyone, even of Paolos staunchest supporters would disagree with that comment.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:31:51 Who will Di Canio take advice from? I was thinking about this yesterday. He's a talented Manager - but not the finished article and he does need a mentor. If PDC does not have someone there who he respects and can look him in the eye and tell him 'I think you got that one wrong', then we have to change that. Piccareta, maybe? Or Jeremy Wray. (Not that a Chairman should have to be getting his hands dirty with problems like this.) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: LittleRed on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:32:43 We will know the outcome of this much sooner than the pdc V caddis situation. We cant go through the league with Bedwell and no stand in for the next three games like we did with the caddis. PDC's own ambitions will be at risk if this is dragged out. If an emergency keeper comes in then Wes is off. Watched the you tube vid of the skysports news coverage and by christ did Wes look fuming.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:34:14 This whole case seems to illustrate the paradox of modern football and perceived player power, everyone moans that they have too much power, then if they are substituted 20 mins in they have been disrespected. I do kind of feel a bit for Wes on this front though. It's about as humilating as it gets for a keeper to be subbed early like that. However that doesn't excuse his reaction when coming off as mentioned above. Both Wes and Paolo are clearly talented and proud people who made errors of judgment in the way they reacted to failure yesterday. However they are in my opinion both crucial components of any success we might have this season, and for that reason I hope they can sack up and sort this out quickly. That is clearly what is in the best interests of the club, which should come above even their individual professional pride. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:34:25 Maybe 'arry redknapp could give him a ring and give him a bit of advice. Or perhaps get a dog so you can hide your bungs (this is obviously not true - arry is whiter than white) is not the advice needed.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:37:28 I was thinking about this yesterday. He's a talented Manager - but not the finished article and he does need a mentor. If PDC does not have someone there who he respects and can look him in the eye and tell him 'I think you got that one wrong', then we have to change that. Piccareta, maybe? Or Jeremy Wray. (Not that a Chairman should have to be getting his hands dirty with problems like this.) I was having a chat with Nick Bamosomi during the game yesterday and were talking about something similar.What I feel is that maybe Paolo needs an experienced assistant to aid him, one who has got the people management skills that Paolo can learn from (I know nothing about Fabrizio Piccareta but he does seem like he is a bit of a Paolo yes man). Someone that when he sees Paolo about to do something like he did yesterday to say to him "hold on a sec" this may not be the best choice you have ever done" shall we talk about it and reassess this at half time in the dressing room. The voice of reason that sometimes Paolo has missing but one that maybe he can learn from, a bit like John Gorman. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: inept and tiresome on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:43:22 There's speaking the truth and there's having a self-indulgent tantrum. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, grossly unprofessional and has almost certainly (again) cost the club hundreds of thousands in trashing the value of one of our most valuable playing assets. Whilst I don't like pauld's constant trashing of all things PDC, I do feel he has a point there.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:44:00 I was having a chat with Nick Bamosomi during the game yesterday and were talking about something similar. What I feel is that maybe Paolo needs an experienced assistant to aid him, one who has got the people management skills that Paolo can learn from (I know nothing about Fabrizio Piccareta but he does seem like he is a bit of a Paolo yes man). Someone that when he sees Paolo about to do something like he did yesterday to say to him "hold on a sec" this may not be the best choice you have ever done" shall we talk about it and reassess this at half time in the dressing room. The voice of reason that sometimes Paolo has missing but one that maybe he can learn from, a bit like John Gorman. I can't see PDC accepting the humiliation of an advisor - nobody tells Paolo di Canio how to behave. Paolo di Canio has got on very well being Paolo di Canio. Paolo di Canio wants assistants, players, captains, chairman who just do what Paolo di Canio says - he said as much when he gave McCormack the armband. Paolo doesn't negotiate. You follow or you fall. Paolo di Canio goes onward. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Red Frog on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:45:53 Whilst I don't like pauld's Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:50:04 It was handled badly by both parties, I just hope they kiss and make up, and move on.
Rash decision to substitute Wes after 20 minutes, he should've given it until half-time, then have a chat with him, a bollocking if need be. But to haul him off after 20 minutes was unnecessary in my opinion, I can understand why Wes was fuming, it must've been humiliating. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:51:25 Whilst I don't like pauld's constant trashing of all things PDC, I do feel he has a point there. I've tried not to comment on PDC at all actually since his appointment, until yesterday. But thanks for the back-handed ackTitle: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 11:57:06 It was handled badly by both parties, I just hope they kiss and make up, and move on. Rash decision to substitute Wes after 20 minutes, he should've given it until half-time, then have a chat with him, a bollocking if need be. But to haul him off after 20 minutes was unnecessary in my opinion, I can understand why Wes was fuming, it must've been humiliating. I was going to say this but you beat me to it. If he'd have done it at half time it would have been better for everybody. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:00:03 He obviously had a problem with Wes before the game - why start with him?
Deliberately humiliate him in public? I'd hate to think that was the case Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:01:37 It was handled badly by both parties, I just hope they kiss and make up, and move on. Rash decision to substitute Wes after 20 minutes, he should've given it until half-time, then have a chat with him, a bollocking if need be. But to haul him off after 20 minutes was unnecessary in my opinion, I can understand why Wes was fuming, it must've been humiliating. I agree with this but equally what was he supposed to do - the way they were playing we could have been 4 or 5 down by half time if he didnt make a change as they were like bloody strangers at the back. Not saying it was right to take Wes off but something had to change and why should it be any differenmt to taking an outfield player off. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:05:40 He obviously had a problem with Wes before the game - why start with him? Deliberately humiliate him in public? I'd hate to think that was the case Nah I don't buy that he set out to humiliate him. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:06:02 Who will Di Canio take advice from? Not that he would, but Roberto Mancini might be someone he'd listen to for a chat....Played for and managed Lazio, and jhas been known to have the odd truculent player....Mancini's favoured method is allegedly to fight them. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: joteddyred on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:26:05 There's speaking the truth and there's having a self-indulgent tantrum. It was toe-curlingly embarrassing, grossly unprofessional and has almost certainly (again) cost the club hundreds of thousands in trashing the value of one of our most valuable playing assets. And for anyone who missed it, it's being repeatedly replayed on SSN who are calling it another classic Di Canio rant and revelling in the latest 'Di Canio and player fallout'. The next clip shown was Di Canio being substitued and reacting in an extremely similar manner to Wes to which the comment 'maybe he needs to practice what he preaches' was made by one of the presenters. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: STFC4LIFE on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:35:14 Good to see he trained today as normal.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:36:11 And for anyone who missed it, it's being repeatedly replayed on SSN who are calling it another classic Di Canio rant and revelling in the latest 'Di Canio and player fallout'. The next clip shown was Di Canio being substitued and reacting in an extremely similar manner to Wes to which the comment 'maybe he needs to practice what he preaches' was made by one of the presenters. A couple of helpful youtube links (god bless the internet!)... Mainly on Paolo's interview: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlsH1ufFURE The match stuff (shaky camerawork): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCYxWP-1xbY Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:40:06 I do kind of feel a bit for Wes on this front though. It's about as humilating as it gets for a keeper to be subbed early like that. However that doesn't excuse his reaction when coming off as mentioned above. But a goalkeeper is not above being dropped if he makes a mistake (or series of). Title: Re: Re: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Only Me on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:42:24 Nah I don't buy that he set out to humiliate him. Maybe he didn't have a choice but to play Wes (instead of a youngster) and gave Wes a chance after rollicking him then saw no improvement in Wes's attitude / play so thought fk it, you are off. All my assumptions I must add. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:42:49 But he wasn't dropped was he - he was subbed
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Langers on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:45:05 So in different ways, they're both to blame for the fuckfest the club is now embroiled in. Until both parties recognise this - and both parties apologise for their part in it - we'll get a Mexican stand off, nothing will get resolved, and Wes will be gone. Just like Caddis. We've seen this before. Unless someone gets them in a room - and Jeremy Wray is probably the only person who can do that - bangs some heads together and gets a genuine apology from both sides, then I'm not optimistic. And one final thing. Who benefits from all of this being trailed on live radio? The players? No. The manager? No. (Media thinks he's a figure of fun at the moment.) The fans? No. (One thing we all seem to be united on is that these conversations would be so much more productive and motivational if they happened in private.) The club? No. I'm struggling here. Actually, no I'm not. The opposition? Yes. Any of our regular detractors (Oxford etc.) or anyone who fancies having a pop at STFC? Yes. If there is one lesson learned from this, please let it be that PDC should not have sole discretion about what gets said to the media. He needs support and advice in this area. Spot on as usual, Ardiles. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 12:47:19 But a goalkeeper is not above being dropped if he makes a mistake (or series of). Not disputing that at all. However it isn't the same as subbing an outfield player, Keepers do get a bit more leeway in terms of getting subbed in a game. All good keepers have the odd howler, but in the 19-odd years I've been watching football very rarely do top keepers get brought off because of it. Basically I'm not saying it wasn't within Paolo's rights to make the change, but I can understand why Foderingham would have been annoyed, embarrassed, etc for it to happen. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Reeeeeves on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:11:41 I was ready to side with PDC yesterday but his rant over Foderingham today is hard to defend, he can't keep doing this everytime there's a problem as we'll quickly run out of players at the rate he's going.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:21:10 Official Twitter: PDC: 'Wes has said sorry. Now we must move on and work together. He is a strong character and a genuine guy.
Yes! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Chubbs on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:21:56 He's apologised then.
edit. beat me to it Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Langers on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:22:31 Thank fuck for that. Now lets move on.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:23:03 Thank fuck for that. Now lets move on. :beers: :clap: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: yeo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:30:12 Lets hope this hasn't crushed his confidence to the point of no return..
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Gnasher on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:32:31 Thank fuck for that. Now lets move on. ditto Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: TheMajorSTFC on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:33:40 Wes back in tomorrow night then? :D
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:39:29 Official Twitter: PDC: 'Wes has said sorry. Now we must move on and work together. He is a strong character and a genuine guy. Yes! Best news of the Day apart from the PNE guy posting pictures. Takes a Man to apologise and a bigger one to post pictures on a forum. PDC should hang these pictures up on the changing room door and team talk done. "He is laughing at you".............. :) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:44:58 ditto Can I ditto your ditto?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:45:38 Good work Jezza
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:48:25 Best news possible.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:50:17 http://www.talksport.co.uk/radioplayer/live/
Talking about Swindon in the next 20 mins or so interviewing Sam Morshead about yesterday and todays events. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:54:32 I'm still outraged about something or other, you lot can decide what
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:57:33 Quote PAOLO Di Canio is looking forward to Wednesday night’s Johnstone’s Paint Trophy first round encounter at Oxford United, with Wes Foderingham available for selection following an apology on Monday. Town head to local rivals Oxford United on Wednesday evening and speaking on Monday lunchtime, the manager confirmed Foderingham will be a part of his squad to face The U’s. “Wes has apologised. The situation is now clear and we will move on and work together. He is a genuine guy and a strong character. “The rules are there and he will pay his price for his actions. He has been fantastic for us last and this season, but he didn’t behave well on Sunday. “He will have his chance to be a part of the team and be available for selection against Oxford on Wednesday night.” Hopefully we can all move on now. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 13:58:07 I'm still outraged about something or other, you lot can decide what The Thai pizza companies have for some inexplicable reason changed their dough. Their thin and crispy crusts are no longer thin and crispy. Imagine the disappointment should you find yourself craving for a thin and crispy crust pizza in Thailand at some point in the future. Personally, I'm distraught. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:00:12 That's all you knead!
<runs> Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:00:50 Dough! :doh:
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:01:17 That's all you knead! <runs> I can't top that Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:01:26 That pun takes some topping.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:01:41 I can't top that Bollocks you beat me.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:02:18 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:02:51 at least you have a strong base to work with
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:05:54 I want a pizza the action
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:06:08 Tweeted by Sam Morshead "Just out of PDC press conference. All resolved. Foderingham available for Oxford."
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:06:41 I want a pizza the action Thats the yeast you'll get Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:06:48 Tweeted by Sam Morshead "Just out of PDC press conference. All resolved. Foderingham available for Oxford." Sensationalist rubbish!Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:08:54 The Thai pizza companies have for some inexplicable reason changed their dough. Their thin and crispy crusts are no longer thin and crispy. Imagine the disappointment should you find yourself craving for a thin and crispy crust pizza in Thailand at some point in the future. what kind of world do we live in?Personally, I'm distraught. at least you didn't pay £5 for a sandwich. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DRS on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:31:36 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:34:43 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did :nod: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:38:23 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did That is actually quite good.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:42:58 I actually lolled! Good work DRS.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ginginho on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:46:11 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did :clap: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:50:49 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did Superb. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:51:48 Sam Morshead on Talksport now ....
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:52:41 Over 10 puns and not 1 made me smile not even a giggle no pun in ten did What's that got to do with pizza? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DV on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:53:29 fuck all
well that was a bit of something and nothing wasnt it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:55:54 PDC on SSN now. Today's presser.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:57:21 That interview to me suggests he aint going to hang round much longer
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:58:05 Adrian Durham just backed PDC's stance. Said Wes is a good keeper with a future in the game but a bit of a knob on twitter!
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 14:58:16 Did I hear that right from him
'Sooner or later, probably sooner, they will have a new manager' Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:00:13 Did I hear that right from him 'Sooner or later, probably sooner, they will have a new manager' :eek: Unless he means he's selling them all! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:01:18 Also not sure if he told the fans that were not happy about it to go and watch Oxford FFS
Dont sound all over to me Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:01:36 Adrian Durham just backed PDC's stance. Said Wes is a good keeper with a future in the game but a bit of a knob on twitter! I don't use Twitter. Has there been anything recently to back that up? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:01:49 Also not sure if he told the fans that were not happy about it to go and watch Oxford FFS Dont sound all over to me Didn't he say something like that last year too? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:02:31 Didn't he say something like that last year too? After the Rovers game I think.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:03:26 He aint calmed down any.
Nearing the end I reckon Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:04:03 I don't use Twitter. Has there been anything recently to back that up? Dunno. Not a massive user myself. Anyone else help? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:06:24 He does come across as a complete knobber on Twitter but not really any more than the usual level of dickheadedness that you get from all footballers.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:06:36 Why oh why does he (or given permission to) give another interview?
Stoking the fires again Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:09:47 Why oh why does he (or given permission to) give another interview? Stoking the fires again I thought that's what most a lot of the posters on here have doing since yesterday, tbh. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:10:38 I thought that's what most a lot of the posters on here have doing since yesterday, tbh. Quite right, lets not discuss things on a discussion forum. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:10:50 And there was me thinking he'd be our manager forever and ever.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:11:32 He's on the edge
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bob's Orange on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:12:11 He's on the edge Is that a pizza pun gag? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:13:44 Quite right, lets not discuss things on a discussion forum. Yes, because that's what I said, wasn't it?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:15:14 Yes, because that's what I said, wasn't it? Well, what did you mean? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:16:42 I don't know what we're going to take away from this?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:17:07 I don't know what we're going to take away from this? Pizza?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:17:26 I don't know what we're going to take away from this? pepperoni passion, perhaps?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:17:44 Did I hear that right from him 'Sooner or later, probably sooner, they will have a new manager' Just understood the context He was referring to the fans Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DMR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:18:05 Fucks sake one person makes a pun and you get a right Dominos effect
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:18:12 Paolo needs to stop reading thisis.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:18:29 Just understood the context He was referring to the fans That doesn't make it sound much better to be honest. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Swindon Please Win on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:20:33 Fuck sake there is a live camera at the County Ground now at SSN. He's had an argument with a player, shock horror. No need for all this media attention. Why didn't we have this attention when we beat Stoke?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:22:09 Why cant he just shut the fuck up for once
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:22:38 aside from the pizza related puns what the fuck is going on?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:24:44 He gave yet another interview
Said the Wes situation is resolved Didnt like the fans criticism told them if they didnt like the way he does things they can come to the CG and will given them their ST money back and they can go and watch Oxford We dont need fans like these!! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Boy About Town on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:25:49 http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/wesheatofthemoment-350318.aspx
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:27:05 aside from the pizza related puns what the fuck is going on? No idea, no one has ACTUALLY posted what was said so most of us can't comment as we havent seen or heard the interview.According to Sam Morshead it is all sorted and everyone has moved on, thats all I can go by. I hope its available online soon so we can make out own conclusions and not be told what other peoples interpretation of the interview was. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: STFC4LIFE on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:27:25 To be honest if he can't take any criticism from fans after making a crazy decision he isn't going to last long as a manager.
The bloke has done wonders since he's been here, but he can't expect every fan to back his every move. Its part of footballl, the players get moaned at, the board get moaned at, the ref gets moaned at and so does the manager. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:27:43 Well, what did you mean? I meant a lot of posters on here have fanned the flames. We lost; Wes got sulky when subbed; PdC was unprofessional when interviewed straight after the game and said some things that, whilst he may felt them, should have been said behind closed doors. That's it, isn't it? Instead, we've had people coming up with large amounts of shite and stirring it gleefully. di Canio's going, Foderingham's going, people are going to stay away, we're a laughing stock, other players will want away, Paolo's a disgrace, etc, etc, etc. Discussion is great, over reaction is boring and becoming all too common. (This is obviously just my opinion). Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:27:50 Wes isn't the problem now
Reckon it's PdC that owes the fans an apology now over that fucking rant Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:28:00 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqkyvyRJVg&feature=plcp
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:30:08 No idea, no one has ACTUALLY posted what was said so most of us can't comment as we havent seen or heard the interview. According to Sam Morshead it is all sorted and everyone has moved on, thats all I can go by. I hope its available online soon so we can make out own conclusions and not be told what other peoples interpretation of the interview was. Sounds to me like him and Wes are fine, its more he's fucked off with the fans response questioning his decision. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bewster on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:31:05 there's something fishy going on here.....anchovies ?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:34:28 Wes isn't the problem now Reckon it's PdC that owes the fans an apology now over that fucking rant Just saw the SSN interview. I thought he was pretty sane for once and made some good points. I don't want any apology, from him or Wes. I just want them to concentrate on winning football matches. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:35:29 Can't agree. I've been supporting for 40 years and I dont want to be told be him to go and watch Oxford
He can fuck right off Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:35:39 Get a win against the filth and all will be forgiven, as far as i'm concerned everything was sorted when Wes and PDC sorted themselves out. The problem with getting to a cup final and winning a league is that the expectation levels rise. But if you read some of the comments on thisis you'd think we were going bust or fighting relegation.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:37:27 Having watched it I don't see the problem, he is a passionate manager, something we aren't used to having at Swindon.
He is basically saying he wants the fans to trust his decisions as he is the manager, it does not at all state that he is going to leave, yet again people twisting his words to suit their own ends I think. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:38:10 I meant a lot of posters on here have fanned the flames.. di Canio's going, Foderingham's going, people are going to stay away, we're a laughing stock, other players will want away, Paolo's a disgrace, etc, etc, etc. Discussion is great, over reaction is boring and becoming all too common. (This is obviously just my opinion). Apologies, I read it as you were saying anyone not backing PDc were fanning the flames that would make him quit. Yes there have been some OTT reactions, I've probably been guilty of that. The important thing here is Wes and PDC have called a truce. Now we can move on. Not sure what PDC was hoping to achieve by making the alleged 'go support Oxford' remark though. Best ignored I think. Now, back to putting those yellow arseholes in their place... Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:38:24 Can't agree. I've been supporting for 40 years and I dont want to be told be him to go and watch Oxford Oh dear. Watch the video again. He was referring to to those fans that went totally ott about his decision to sub Wes. (Although, if you're one of them it was aimed at you). He can fuck right off Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:39:33 And you're OK with the "Fans who criticise can fuck off and watch Oxford" stuff? Hunt and McMahon got hounded out of Town for that
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DMR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:39:51 Didnt like the fans criticism told them if they didnt like the way he does things they can come to the CG and will given them their ST money back and they can go and watch Oxford IF, big if, this is accurate and not out of context, PDC can do one, with immediate effect. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:40:48 Apologies, I read it as you were saying anyone not backing PDc were fanning the flames that would make him quit. Yes there have been some OTT reactions, I've probably been guilty of that. The important thing here is Wes and PDC have called a truce. Now we can move on. Not sure what PDC was hoping to achieve by making the alleged 'go support Oxford' remark though. Best ignored I think. Now, back to putting those yellow arseholes in their place... Agreed! Supporting your Club is a passionate business and we sometimes get so wrapped up in it we lose a bit of reason. Something that most of us can readily identify with in Paolo... Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:40:54 IF, big if, this is accurate and not out of context, PDC can do one, with immediate effect. It is totally accurate. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DMR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:41:16 He can do one then :)
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:41:37 Having watched it I don't see the problem, he is a passionate manager, something we aren't used to having at Swindon. He is basically saying he wants the fans to trust his decisions as he is the manager, it does not at all state that he is going to leave, yet again people twisting his words to suit their own ends I think. Then what does he mean by saying 'They will sooner, probably sooner, or later have a new manager' Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:42:11 Can't agree. I've been supporting for 40 years and I dont want to be told be him to go and watch Oxford He can fuck right off Don't get too touchy, that clearly wasn't aimed at the whole fanbase.... "Go to Oxford, not to Swindon... because we don't need these kind of supporters" Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:43:37 So only compliant hero-worshippers are welcome at the CG
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:45:21 And you're OK with the "Fans who criticise can fuck off and watch Oxford" stuff? Hunt and McMahon got hounded out of Town for that Wahay, hello Paul. Sorry if I don't debate PdC with you, you're not exactly neutral with regard to him, are you?As to his comments, how many on here regularly slate some of our fans for their comments on the phone in, or thisis, or twitter, or the facebook page? We have a percentage of fans who are total dicks and we all know it. Get a grip people FFS. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:46:30 So only compliant hero-worshippers are welcome at the CG I don't think he said that.Calm down dear. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:46:50 But stupid comments from fans is nowhere near the same as THAT comment from our manager
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: ghanimah on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:47:04 Fucking hell have I missed something, has Di Canio told his critics to fuck off and watch Oxford?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:47:11 Wahay, hello Paul. Sorry if I don't debate PdC with you, you're not exactly neutral with regard to him, are you? Nor are you. Or any of us come to that. Whatever you think of him, he's a bit Marmite like that isn't he? :)Seriously, how is he different from McMahon? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: walcot red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:47:17 Meltdown averted for now at least :D
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: mrverve on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:47:54 I don't agree with all of what comes with Paolo but as Swindon fans we have had to put up with so much shit over the past few years that's it's actually refreshing to see a manager actually care and have pride in what he's trying to do here.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:48:08 :popcorn:
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:48:10 Then what does he mean by saying That is a statement that if the fans don't back the manager then he will leave, simple.'They will sooner, probably sooner, or later have a new manager' This happens with EVERY manager in their career, the fans turn on them and they leave or get sacked. This is what he is insinuating, that if the fans don't back Paolo then he could leave. The thing is the doubters will ALWAYS shout louder than the backers when something happens. The same can apply to every single manager who has ever managed. Or is it that I just don't sensationalize things he says and try and read into them the positives instead of the negatives all the time? maybe I am wrong, if I am then so be it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:48:22 Fucking hell have I missed something, has Di Canio told his critics to fuck off and watch Oxford? Exactly that Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:48:35 Fucking hell have I missed something, has Di Canio told his critics to fuck off and watch Oxford? "Come to the County Ground, I give you the [season ticket] money back. Or don't come to the County Ground, go to Oxford, watch the game, not to Swindon because we don't need this kind of supporters"Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:48:59 Don't get too touchy, that clearly wasn't aimed at the whole fanbase.... This is fucking spot on."Go to Oxford, not to Swindon... because we don't need these kind of supporters" And this I don't agree with all of what comes with Paolo but as Swindon fans we have had to put up with so much shit over the past few years that's it's actually refreshing to see a manager actually care and have pride in what he's trying to do here. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Huwwy on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:50:36 Oh for fucks sake.......
We have some very sensitive souls on here. People should stop reading every line of every PdC interview and dissect it for meaning. He's extremely passionate and allows that passion to run away with him sometimes especially when dealing with the media. This isn't something new, he's been like that since his very first press conference and so we should be used to it by now. I didn't take it literally when he said we were like Barcelona and I don't take him literally now. Chill. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:51:46 Nor are you. Or any of us come to that. Whatever you think of him, he's a bit Marmite like that isn't he? :) He hasn't sold JAF for peanuts? Oh and he's funny, passionate and has the team playing the best style of football I've seen at the CG since Hoddle. I know what you mean though and of course it could all change if results continue to decline, or a load more players are shipped out. For me though, it's going to take more than yesterday and today before I start attacking him.Seriously, how is he different from McMahon? (And I fucking love marmite). Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:52:19 :)
"Come to the County Ground, I give you the [season ticket] money back. Or don't come to the County Ground, go to Oxford, watch the game, not to Swindon because we don't need this kind of supporters" I bet you've been waiting for this day for the last year and a bit haven't you? :-)Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: stfcinbmth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:52:50 Didnt like the fans criticism told them if they didnt like the way he does things they can come to the CG and will given them their ST money back and they can go and watch Oxford We dont need fans like these!! He's starting to sound more and more like the B'mth chairman with each outburst just without the alcohol Fighting fans on the pitch next perhaps? Just mentioning it in passing like Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:53:18 So only compliant hero-worshippers are welcome at the CG Everything must be taken in context. How many people moaned about a lack of passion from Paul Hart??! And now we're moaning about a manager who's possibly too passionate? TBH I am loving watching STFC these days, never a dull moment. Beats the hell out of only a couple of seasons ago where our players lost and barely appeared to be trying and then having to listen to that idiot Hart explain why our players couldn't even be bothered to try their hardest? I'd rather have a passionate Italian lunatic in charge, than return to that! :smugfu: Just in case some of those who need a reminder... http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/s/swindon_town/9466317.stm Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:54:53 I bet you've been waiting for this day for the last year and a bit haven't you? :-) No. I'm just sick of it.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:55:21 To be honest if he can't take any criticism from fans after making a crazy decision he isn't going to last long as a manager. Sorry, which bit was crazy? Subbing someone he thought was underperforming? That's madness, madness I tell ya! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DMR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:55:44 He hasn't sold JAF for peanuts? Oh and he's funny, passionate and has the team playing the best style of football I've seen at the CG since Hoddle. I know what you mean though and of course it could all change if results continue to decline, or a load more players are shipped out. For me though, it's going to take more than yesterday and today before I start attacking him. (And I fucking love marmite). You are missing the point though. No one is questioning his results. We are questioning his tenure because most of the time he's a fucking cock. You will probably counter this with something along the lines of "Do I want to us to lose every week so long as a nice bloke is in charge?" Well, no, I just don't like the idea of the club being managed by a lunatic, racist sociopath who is hell-bent on falling out with anyone who has an opinion not identical to his. Plenty of capable managers who aren't fuckwits out there. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 15:59:23 You are missing the point though. No one is questioning his results. I'll give you lunatic, but racist sociopath? The situation has been resolved, hasn't it? PdC said Wes is available for selection hasn't he? People just need to calm the fuck down. We are questioning his tenure because most of the time he's a fucking cock. You will probably counter this with something along the lines of "Do I want to us to lose every week so long as a nice bloke is in charge?" Well, no, I just don't like the idea of the club being managed by a lunatic, racist sociopath who is hell-bent on falling out with anyone who has an opinion not identical to his. Plenty of capable managers who aren't fuckwits out there. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:00:29 Will all the old dears who are getting their knickers in a twist please calm the fuck down. Thanks.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:01:16 On a more serious note does he mention something about chocolate halfway in?
Paul, do you go anymore? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:02:07 On a more serious note does he mention something about chocolate? Yeah, fuck knows what that was about! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:03:32 On a more serious note does he mention something about chocolate halfway in? Something about the fans being upset because they'd had too much chocolate? Who knows. Just seen his interview from today on the OS, more level headed and quite amusing. Says Wes has to be fined - can't just make do with apology - otherwise next time he subbed Ritchie, MR would 'shoot at me with a gun' and then just say sorry. Mad as a hatter. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:04:09 i don't have a season ticket so therefore this wasn't aimed at me :)
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:05:02 i don't have a season ticket so therefore this wasn't aimed at me :) Foderingham's apology now on the OS.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:07:03 You are missing the point though. No one is questioning his results. We are questioning his tenure because most of the time he's a fucking cock. You will probably counter this with something along the lines of "Do I want to us to lose every week so long as a nice bloke is in charge?" Well, no, I just don't like the idea of the club being managed by a lunatic, racist sociopath who is hell-bent on falling out with anyone who has an opinion not identical to his. Plenty of capable managers who aren't fuckwits out there. Read that again tomorrow morning, and I guarantee you'll feel really embarrassed. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:07:22 Wes has just tweeted a link to his OS apology.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: magicroundabout on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:07:43 yeah just read it. sounds like it's all sorted. lets move on
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DMR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:08:58 Read that again tomorrow morning, and I guarantee you'll feel really embarrassed. I often wonder if people feel really embarrassed about posts made in the heat of the moment, I suppose we will find out tomorrow. Did you feel really embarrassed after you threatened to find me and assault me for posting an Ian Huntley joke? ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: yeo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:09:32 Having PDC as manager is like having an ugly, stroppy girlfriend who's filthy in bed. You want to get rid but you'll miss the filth and worry that you'll never find a nice bird that's as dirty.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:11:38 Did you feel really embarrassed after you threatened to find me and assault me for posting an Ian Huntley joke? ;) I think you may have embellished that story a little! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: yeo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:11:50 but there's only so much shit you can take..
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:12:10 Having PDC as manager is like having an ugly, stroppy girlfriend who's filthy in bed. You want to get rid but you'll miss the filth and worry that you'll never find a nice bird that's as dirty. Ha I think Barry made a similar analogy once Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: yeo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:14:12 oh
sorry Barry,subconscious theivery Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Mexicano Rojo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:17:17 Paolo likes dressing up and being pissed on?
Ahhhh it makes sense now, cheers yeo. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:19:34 Nobody is knocking him as a superb football manager, or his passion, or his general 'appeal' but he just never seems to know when to stay schtum.
He had absolutely no need to mention the fans at all, let alone telling a section of them to go and watch Oxford. If any of his players never learnt their lesson after one mistake we know what that would mean. And they are still repeating the whole episode ad infinitum on SSN Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:22:17 Very interesting to hear the latest rendition on SSN - still telling the fans to come to the CG and get their ST money back but
NO MENTION OF WATCHING OXFORD INSTEAD Unfortunately you cant put the genie back in the bottle Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: ghanimah on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:22:45 "Come to the County Ground, I give you the [season ticket] money back. Or don't come to the County Ground, go to Oxford, watch the game, not to Swindon because we don't need this kind of supporters" Ah right cheers, I haven't heard it, presumably though he wasn't referring to all critical ST fans...? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DRS on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:25:03 I think what it boils down to is if you are happy to take the wins against stoke wigan and days at wembley and promotion,not to mention quality defensive records etc being broken then you also have to be prepared and accept that we got those things because basically the bloke is a fucking lunatic.
Listen,we only see the half of it,the board and the players see a hell of alot worse than what we see,BUT the players still go and perform and the board still back him,do you know why? because for as much as he is a total cock and a lunatic the players and the board(who know him better than us)know ultimatly that whether we get good or bad press or if some opponont fans or even our own precious ones get offended that whatever way he does it it is fucking working. What fucks me off in all this that the fans who are saying all this shit about he should accept the booing and criticism he got yesterday are the same cunts who will be the first to say you should never boo your own players,tell me the difference? Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:25:13 No. I'm just sick of it. Ok fair enough, but we all know your views on him, why keep restating them?It just seems to me that you've been waiting for this "told you so" moment!! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DRS on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:26:04 Very interesting to hear the latest rendition on SSN - still telling the fans to come to the CG and get their ST money back but Would you ever boo your own player during a game?NO MENTION OF WATCHING OXFORD INSTEAD Unfortunately you cant put the genie back in the bottle Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Langers on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:28:28 To be honest, at times I wish some of our fans would fuck off and watch someone else.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:29:38 Very interesting to hear the latest rendition on SSN - still telling the fans to come to the CG and get their ST money back but NO MENTION OF WATCHING OXFORD INSTEAD I salute you master of DiCanioeese! I don't half struggle to interpret our lovable Italian nutjobs exact meanings at times and often give him the benefit of the doubt. Pleased you're here to correct me though... ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:30:20 I think what it boils down to is if you are happy to take the wins against stoke wigan and days at wembley and promotion,not to mention quality defensive records etc being broken then you also have to be prepared and accept that we got those things because basically the bloke is a fucking lunatic. Listen,we only see the half of it,the board and the players see a hell of alot worse than what we see,BUT the players still go and perform and the board still back him,do you know why? because for as much as he is a total cock and a lunatic the players and the board(who know him better than us)know ultimatly that whether we get good or bad press or if some opponont fans or even our own precious ones get offended that whatever way he does it it is fucking working. What fucks me off in all this that the fans who are saying all this shit about he should accept the booing and criticism he got yesterday are the same cunts who will be the first to say you should never boo your own players,tell me the difference? Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh All good points Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:30:52 I think what it boils down to is if you are happy to take the wins against stoke wigan and days at wembley and promotion,not to mention quality defensive records etc being broken then you also have to be prepared and accept that we got those things because basically the bloke is a fucking lunatic. Listen,we only see the half of it,the board and the players see a hell of alot worse than what we see,BUT the players still go and perform and the board still back him,do you know why? because for as much as he is a total cock and a lunatic the players and the board(who know him better than us)know ultimatly that whether we get good or bad press or if some opponont fans or even our own precious ones get offended that whatever way he does it it is fucking working. What fucks me off in all this that the fans who are saying all this shit about he should accept the booing and criticism he got yesterday are the same cunts who will be the first to say you should never boo your own players,tell me the difference? Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh Good post. After 30 minutes shovelling gravel I may have re-evaluated my view Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:30:56 Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh Yeah, was to be expected. People can't help themselves I suppose. Club is in its best shape for years with a fantastic squad of players and a wonderful board. Yet you'd of thought we're about to go into administration and get relegated listening to some doom mongers. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:33:21 The only person I have ever boo-ed, or whatever it was I was actually bellowing, was Steve McMahon.
Incessantly - I just knew from the outset he was a wrong 'un One game, fuelled by the best the CGH could offer, I spent nearly the whole game shouting 'Get that scouser out' Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: luckyluke699 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:34:32 The only person I have ever boo-ed, or whatever it was I was actually bellowing, was Steve McMahon. Incessantly - I just knew from the outset he was a wrong 'un Agreed, after all he was bald, scouse... and bound to rob my house apparently! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:35:11 Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh If that's aimed at me, I was "back" well before this weekend. But more than happy to fuck off again if non-hero worshipping isn't acceptable.I actually agree with most of the rest of what you said FWIW. And said something similar yesterday Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: london_red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:36:58 Yet you'd of thought we're about to go into administration and get relegated listening to some doom mongers. Kerry Red and DMR have got their signs made up already [url width=500 height=500]http://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dnc-protester-of-the-day.jpg[/url] Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:37:08 I think what it boils down to is if you are happy to take the wins against stoke wigan and days at wembley and promotion,not to mention quality defensive records etc being broken then you also have to be prepared and accept that we got those things because basically the bloke is a fucking lunatic. I am unable to disagree with any of that.Listen,we only see the half of it,the board and the players see a hell of alot worse than what we see,BUT the players still go and perform and the board still back him,do you know why? because for as much as he is a total cock and a lunatic the players and the board(who know him better than us)know ultimatly that whether we get good or bad press or if some opponont fans or even our own precious ones get offended that whatever way he does it it is fucking working. What fucks me off in all this that the fans who are saying all this shit about he should accept the booing and criticism he got yesterday are the same cunts who will be the first to say you should never boo your own players,tell me the difference? Also good to see the posters back when things go wrong,suprise eh Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:38:19 Kerry Red and DMR have got their signs made up already [url width=500 height=500]http://chzdailywhat.files.wordpress.com/2012/09/dnc-protester-of-the-day.jpg[/url] I would like put on file that my ONLY gripe was the Oxford reference Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Mister Lorenzo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:39:26 If that's aimed at me, I was "back" well before this weekend. But more than happy to fuck off again if non-hero worshipping isn't acceptable. "Back" for what though?? Your moment in the spotlight to tell everyone how right you were about him in the first place - Give it a rest, please!!I actually agree with most of the rest of what you said FWIW. And said something similar yesterday Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:40:10 Paolo is right. I wish some of the mongs on thisis would go support Pxford instead
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:42:05 Paolo is right. I wish some of the mongs on thisis would go support Pxford instead Your opinion is worthless. You don't even go to games ;)Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:42:22 But people are allowed to have their opinions - and I'm sure that come kick off time they will ALL be supporting the team.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:42:26 Paolo is right. I wish some of the mongs on thisis would go support Pxford instead Exactly his point. I agree with him on that too.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:43:50 Your opinion is worthless. You don't even go to games ;) this is correctOne thing that we can all surely agree on is that Paolo is absolutely fucking batshit mental. Title: Re: Re: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:44:31 But people are allowed to have their opinions - and I'm sure that come kick off time they will ALL be supporting the team. ex fucking actlyTitle: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:44:55 "Back" for what though?? Your moment in the spotlight to tell everyone how right you were about him in the first place - Give it a rest, please!! Nope, been posting for months without a single word about PDC until this weekend. And none of this has any bearing on what I originally (and still) object to about him. If we follow this line of reasoning, are you saying that anyone who has previously thought it wasn't a good idea to employ Di Canio cannot now comment on his let's be honest pretty unreasonable behaviour?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:45:02 this is correct Oh yes.One thing that we can all surely agree on is that Paolo is absolutely fucking batshit mental. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:46:17 Nope, been posting for months without a single word about PDC until this weekend. And none of this has any bearing on what I originally (and still) object to about him. If we follow this line of reasoning, are you saying that anyone who has previously thought it wasn't a good idea to employ Di Canio cannot now comment on his let's be honest pretty unreasonable behaviour? Of course not, but it's pretty hard to discount your stance on him, isn't it?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DRS on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:47:42 If that's aimed at me, I was "back" well before this weekend. But more than happy to fuck off again if non-hero worshipping isn't acceptable. If the cap fits ;) what i meant was here and on the comments you know that as soon as something goes wrong people are on it like a rash,they thrive off it. No hero worshipping from me i have already said i think what he did yesterday was wrong but if after over a year people are still shocked by this from him and boo his substitutions then what he said after he is right,they are better off fucking offI actually agree with most of the rest of what you said FWIW. And said something similar yesterday Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:49:18 I don't think anyone has come out of this well, all could have handled it better. I especially expect a 44 year old man to have more control over his emotions...however, as some have said you take the rough with the smooth with di Canio. For all the success, there is a price to pay.
Now that Foderingham has apologised, we should move on, but di Canio should be careful about making 'go and watch Oxford' comments, it's not good to be in the same company as Rikki Hunt and Steve McMahon. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:52:14 Nope, been posting for months without a single word about PDC until this weekend. And none of this has any bearing on what I originally (and still) object to about him. If we follow this line of reasoning, are you saying that anyone who has previously thought it wasn't a good idea to employ Di Canio cannot now comment on his let's be honest pretty unreasonable behaviour? No, I think the issue is you, by your own admission, have chosen not to post for months on PDC but then when the wheels look like falling off you're there posting on PDC, taking an as and when it suits attitude. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:54:56 and boo his substitutions then what he said after he is right,they are better off fucking off Going by the admittedly miked up radio commentary there would only have been 200 left in Preston. It happened last season with Connell and it will happen next time he does the same thing. I guarantee you'll be hard pushed to find a set of fans in the football leagues that wouldn't react the same way. Except Spurs fans, they a patient and never boo anyone. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:55:25 No, I think the issue is you, by your own admission, have chosen not to post for months on PDC but then when the wheels look like falling off you're there posting on PDC, taking an as and when it suits attitude. I think it suits every Swindon fan to post on this topic, not just Paul. Title: Re: Re: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Only Me on Monday, September 3, 2012, 16:57:15 I salute you master of DiCanioeese! Count yourself lucky (no pun intended). I can understand all of it and sometimes it doesn't make senseI don't half struggle to interpret our lovable Italian nutjobs exact meanings at times and often give him the benefit of the doubt. Pleased you're here to correct me though... ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:02:40 No, I think the issue is you, by your own admission, have chosen not to post for months on PDC but then when the wheels look like falling off you're there posting on PDC, taking an as and when it suits attitude. I kept quiet throughout the Caddis fiasco and FWIW I don't think the wheels look like falling off now either. I just had a bit of an "Oh FFS" thing yesterday and let myself get dragged in. Please accept my apologies, it won't happen again.As for the "as and when it suits attitude" I hadn't realised there was a quota we had to maintain Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:04:02 I kept quiet throughout the Caddis fiasco and FWIW I don't think the wheels look like falling off now either. I just had a bit of an "Oh FFS" thing yesterday and let myself get dragged in. Please accept my apologies, it won't happen again. As for the "as and when it suits attitude" I hadn't realised there was a quota we had to maintain You cunt, of course there's a quota...80% bollocks I believe. (something about cheese). Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:12:06 I kept quiet throughout the Caddis fiasco and FWIW I don't think the wheels look like falling off now either. I just had a bit of an "Oh FFS" thing yesterday and let myself get dragged in. Please accept my apologies, it won't happen again. As for the "as and when it suits attitude" I hadn't realised there was a quota we had to maintain Everyone is full of apologies today aren't they. There is no quota so don't worry about your perceived ignorance of that. I look forward to your future views on PDC in the forthcoming days, weeks and months when you post on the mediocre and success stories PDC has too. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:15:54 You cunt, of course there's a quota...80% bollocks I believe. (something about cheese). I like processed cheese. There, I said it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:17:59 I kept quiet throughout the Caddis fiasco and FWIW I don't think the wheels look like falling off now either. I just had a bit of an "Oh FFS" thing yesterday and let myself get dragged in. Please accept my apologies, it won't happen again. There isn't. Of course you are as entitled as anyone to comment, whatever your views. As I previously posted though, it's hard not to look past your obvious dislike of Paolo the man when you are commenting on Paolo the manager. Good to have you back though and I hope you keep posting.As for the "as and when it suits attitude" I hadn't realised there was a quota we had to maintain Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:18:01 I like processed cheese. Freak.There, I said it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DRS on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:21:44 Going by the admittedly miked up radio commentary there would only have been 200 left in Preston. I agree,what i am trying to say though and as you know i am a bit thick and struggle to say it clearly ;) is,why do some fans who think booing a player is an awful thing think it is ok to also boo the manager during the game?It happened last season with Connell and it will happen next time he does the same thing. I guarantee you'll be hard pushed to find a set of fans in the football leagues that wouldn't react the same way. Except Spurs fans, they a patient and never boo anyone. Also i find it interesting that he mentions Mourinho in that interview as i have said for a long time that whenever we lose(like morinho) the defeats actually always gets deflected away from the players and straight onto him,is this a conscious thing i dont know? but as i say it has worked up til now Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:25:43 you know i am a bit thick Something else we can all agree on.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:26:26 I like processed cheese. I like cheese in tubesThere, I said it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:27:33 I like cheese in tubes I'll eat it on any form of public transport. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:28:25 I like cheese in tubes That really is freaky![url width=218 height=298]http://img.skysports.com/07/08/218x298/tubesdiary_559504.jpg[/url] Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:34:44 fools!
[url width=773 height=367]http://www.kavli.no/SiteCollectionImages/773_skinkeost_tube.jpg[/url] Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:38:49 Ham in a tube?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:41:47 Ham in a tube? And 17% fett, of course. Go Boba! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:42:01 I kept quiet throughout the Caddis fiasco and FWIW I don't think the wheels look like falling off now either. I just had a bit of an "Oh FFS" thing yesterday and let myself get dragged in. Please accept my apologies, it won't happen again. As for the "as and when it suits attitude" I hadn't realised there was a quota we had to maintain 12k posts says otherwise ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:42:08 Primula cheese spread. The taste of my childhood. Along with findus crispy pancakes (not on the same plate). That was Sunday lunch for a large part of my childhood.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:43:24 Primula cheese spread. The taste of my childhood. Along with findus crispy pancakes (not on the same plate). That was Sunday lunch for a large part of my childhood. Primula is another great Norwegian invention.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:45:42 12k posts says otherwise ;) Ha ha. It actually says "Get a life".I don't even like cheese http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R_hlMK7tCks Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:45:57 You'll claim anything for Norway these days. Are Dairylea cheese triangles Norwegian as well?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:47:29 Primula is another great Norwegian invention. Ironic considering Norway invented the Cheese Slicer. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:48:15 There isn't. Of course you are as entitled as anyone to comment, whatever your views. As I previously posted though, it's hard not to look past your obvious dislike of Paolo the man when you are commenting on Paolo the manager. Good to have you back though and I hope you keep posting. Likewise though some people seem to worship him like some sort of Demigod who can do no wrong, they're just as fucking annoying as those who still bleat on about his views. pauld - don't let some of the mongs get you down, you're one of the more valued contributors on this forum so keep it up. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:49:52 Do I need to add "IMHO"?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:50:42 Likewise though some people seem to worship him like some sort of Demigod who can do no wrong, they're just as fucking annoying as those who still bleat on about his views. pauld - don't let some of the mongs get you down, you're one of the more valued contributors on this forum so keep it up. I think Paul can post equally well erect or flaccid... Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:53:46 Likewise though some people seem to worship him like some sort of Demigod who can do no wrong, they're just as fucking annoying as those who still bleat on about his views. True. But I don't think there's many who think he's faultless, is there?pauld - don't let some of the mongs get you down, you're one of the more valued contributors on this forum so keep it up. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:56:45 True. But I don't think there's many who think he's faultless, is there? True but I don't think there's many left that constantly go on about him and his views either. I guess maybe they're just more vocal?? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:57:35 True but I don't think there's many left that constantly go on about him and his views either. I guess maybe they're just more vocal?? Fair comment.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:58:21 True. But I don't think there's many who think he's faultless, is there? No, but a few jumped straight at Wes without knowing the facts (as best as anyone can) but then equally some jumped straight at Paolo. I sat firmly in the middle so as to be a perfect devils advocate, in a Jeremy Vine style. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: joteddyred on Monday, September 3, 2012, 17:58:46 Likewise though some people seem to worship him like some sort of Demigod who can do no wrong, they're just as fucking annoying as those who still bleat on about his views. pauld - don't let some of the mongs get you down, you're one of the more valued contributors on this forum so keep it up. This IMO as well! I'd also like to add that I think Wes has been very mature in offering an apology today. I wonder how many others would have decided to walk after their manager slated them like that live in an interview? I think he's actually come out of this in a better light than Di Canio (again my opinion only). Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:00:31 is,why do some fans who think booing a player is an awful thing think it is ok to also boo the manager during the game? Oh, I see. The solution to this hypocrisy is simple. Everyone should boo everything at all times. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:02:13 Oh, I see. Boooooooooo!!!!!!The solution to this hypocrisy is simple. Everyone should boo everything at all times. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:04:30 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:04:58 I think he's actually come out of this in a better light than Di Canio (again my opinion only). I don't think anyone is in any doubt about who you think is at fault in all of this, you have made your point clear in many many posts that you fully blame PdC for the Wes debacle and the Caddis incident.Point taken. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:06:37 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Batch on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:07:38 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:08:28 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:11:45 Well all I can say is..
THANK FUCK FOR THAT. I really didn't think he would apologize. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: joteddyred on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:16:01 I don't think anyone is in any doubt about who you think is at fault in all of this, you have made your point clear in many many posts that you fully blame PdC for the Wes debacle and the Caddis incident. Point taken. Why don't you just click on the ignore button, as in your eyes everything I say is completely invalid. Is it just because it's not the same view as yours, or possibly because I'm female and you don't think I should have a view? FWIW I love Di Canio being our manager, I just think he could react better in certain situations. I'll have forgotten about it completely at 3pm on Saturday when the match kicks off and I'll back him and the team like I do every week. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:17:09 Why don't you just click on the ignore button, as in your eyes everything I say is completely invalid. Is it just because it's not the same view as yours, or possibly because I'm female and you don't think I should have a view? FWIW I love Di Canio being our manager, I just think he could react better in certain situations. I'll have forgotten about it completely at 3pm on Saturday when the match kicks off and I'll back him and the team like I do every week. What about Wednesday? ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:18:42 Why don't you just click on the ignore button, as in your eyes everything I say is completely invalid. Is it just because it's not the same view as yours, or possibly because I'm female and you don't think I should have a view? Definitely the latter. Now stick the kettle on love ;) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:19:03 Why don't you just click on the ignore button, as in your eyes everything I say is completely invalid. Is it just because it's not the same view as yours, or possibly because I'm female and you don't think I should have a view? WTF? when have I ever thought your opinion was invalid? I don't know you and have never paid attention to any of your posts until you started openly criticising Paolo over the Caddis thing.FWIW I love Di Canio being our manager, I just think he could react better in certain situations. I'll have forgotten about it completely at 3pm on Saturday when the match kicks off and I'll back him and the team like I do every week. When you obviously did not know what was happening but guessed that Paolo was wrong. And FWIW I had no idea you were a female so don't throw at me the fucking sex argument. Your posts of late do not come accross as you loving Paolo but quite the opposite you fairly and squarely blamed him for Caddis and now Wes. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: janaage on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:23:29 Oh dear Jo, bit of a low blow bringing out the female card. That's the beauty of the forum other than JFW and STFCbird I have no idea who's a no tail at all, oh and Larwood.
Get over yourself. My take on PDC is he's italian and as such he says what he thinks. People need to realise it's a national trait to say what you think and move on. Hence the Wes is shit theme of yesterday and difference in approach of today. Also people need to give a bit of credit to the players and stop wrapping them up in cotton wool, they're grown men ffs. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:26:42 Iz it becoz I iz black?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:28:13 I also think we shouldn't underestimate the combination of dodgy English and Paolo being a nutcase
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:28:45 I must admit I thought we'd hear more of this type of comment, thankfully everyone seems to have agreed that Clarke and Tehoue are cunts and moved on.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:29:17 That was in response to Flasheart by the way.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:29:22 Football has always and always will be very different work to anything else. Whenever there is an argument or falling out it's generally in public and in front of the newspapers and TV.
What happens in the majority of cases in football is the same as all of us when there's a falling out at work, you just get over it and get on with it. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: leefer on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:32:20 This IMO as well! I'd also like to add that I think Wes has been very mature in offering an apology today. I wonder how many others would have decided to walk after their manager slated them like that live in an interview? I think he's actually come out of this in a better light than Di Canio (again my opinion only). Agreed. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:32:20 I must admit I thought we'd hear more of this type of comment, thankfully everyone seems to have agreed that Clarke and Tehoue are cunts and moved on. Some pillock on another forum actually suggested the Wez saga is because he's black. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:36:36 I also think we shouldn't underestimate the combination of dodgy English and Paolo being a nutcase I've always thought that for someone who must have lived in Britain for the best part of 10 years, his English is ropey. Especially when every foreigner who can speak 5 languages says "Ingleesh iz ezee". Suppose he got off to a rough start with living in Glasgow... Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: janaage on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:42:05 I think Italians can struggle with English as most of their words end in a vowel, therefore they struggle ending our words as they should.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Saxondale on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:45:58 Incidentally that Conor Thompson lad has just signed for Chippenham.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:48:38 So, who do we think got Sky to edit out the 'go watch Oxford' part of PdC's rant in the subsequent airings?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: donkey on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:49:08 So, who do we think got Sky to edit out the 'go watch Oxford' part of PdC's rant in the subsequent airings? But we ARE going to Oxford... Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:49:53 Ah, but he didn't day 'go watch Oxford GET BEAT'
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Monday, September 3, 2012, 18:59:44 Sorry, but I'm going to have to take this thread back a few pages.
I like processed cheese. There, I said it. Deviant! If Paolo were to turn up at your door in person (he won't, because you live in Bangkok) and tell you to 'Fuck off and support Oxford' for that, I'd have to back him all way. You crossed the line there. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:03:02 It's great with burgers
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:15:20 Yep another processed cheese fan here. Obviously I like real cheese too though. A combination of both can be brilliant.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:17:28 Toasted sandwich with a thick cut of ham and melted cheese slices. Yum.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: leefer on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:18:02 Why would you feel the need to process :cheese:
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: joteddyred on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:18:50 What about Wednesday? ;) Ha, sorry I meant the next game I was attending. I shall listen on the radio on Weds, but shall try to refrain from posting for fear of upsetting anyone :) WTF? when have I ever thought your opinion was invalid? I don't know you and have never paid attention to any of your posts until you started openly criticising Paolo over the Caddis thing. When you obviously did not know what was happening but guessed that Paolo was wrong. And FWIW I had no idea you were a female so don't throw at me the fucking sex argument. Your posts of late do not come accross as you loving Paolo but quite the opposite you fairly and squarely blamed him for Caddis and now Wes. Thought you knew I was female, so apologies for that. In terms of Caddis. He asked for a few days off on paternity leave, it was refused, he was pissed off, we know the rest. Personally I don't think it would have hurt to have given him a few days off, but others will disagree. I love my husband and kids (in a different way to Paolo obviously), but it won't stop me blaming them when I think they've done something wrong :D I don't particularly want to get into an online row, that's not the purpose I post on the forum. Apologies if I've offended you. I'm done with this thread. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:20:35 I think Italians can struggle with English as most of their words end in a vowel, therefore they struggle ending our words as they should. Converstaions with non-native speakers can cause all sorts of problems. Just the other week the misses told me she had a good meeting with Phillip. I'm wondering who this Phillip person is. She kept going on to say how confident she is of a deal but I had to stop her...... Me: Who is Phillip? Her: You know, Phillip! Me: No, I don't know Phillip Her: Yes you do, we have Phillip's TV? Me: We have whose TV? Her: Phillip Confused as fuck yours truly looks at the TV convinced it was ours and there it was. Of course, it was a Phillips TV, she'd had a meeting with Phillips but could not pronounce the 's'. I now refer to said company as Phil. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:22:01 He asked for a few days off on paternity leave, That's news to me Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:26:07 Fuck, now we will never find out if joteddy likes processed cheese.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:34:40 Di canios comments will piss the pox fans off so that will do for me. he is nuts absolutely barmy
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:37:00 That's news to me I'm taking 2 weeks when my little one makes an appearance. In Mauritius. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: leefer on Monday, September 3, 2012, 19:54:09 Fuck, now we will never find out if joteddy likes processed cheese. She dosn't....apparently some Barmy Italian once offered her a processed cheese sandwich while on holiday in Lanzarotte.....she politely refused and he went fucking barmy....wanted an apology the whole shebang. ;D Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:00:28 Wray was just on 5live. Thank fuck he is chairman is all I have to say. Dignified and sensible.backs his manager completely too
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:03:42 What did he say?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:05:38 What did he say? Don't tell him Pike :) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: leefer on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:10:47 Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: AlessandroPini on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:32:05 Pdc clearly playin mind games right now. He deliberately provoked the all situation to show the guys theqy can't relax one bit. Let's how it plays put.. I think this loss and this episode can be blessing in disguise.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:40:33 So, who do we think got Sky to edit out the 'go watch Oxford' part of PdC's rant in the subsequent airings? When did he say that??Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 20:54:17 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZZqkyvyRJVg&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: janaage on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:00:32 I flipping love Di Canio!
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:12:31 He is nuts.
Many people say that as though it's a bad thing, I think being bonkers is an admirable quality. There should definitely be more lunatic managers in the game. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:13:43 I do feel uneasy about the new manager bit though.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:21:35 It's great with burgers Indeed dirty cheese is the only option with a burger Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:23:38 I do feel uneasy about the new manager bit though. I'm pretty sure he's said similar last season. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Notts red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:24:54 I'm pretty sure he's said similar last season. After the Rovers game wasn't it? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: horlock07 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:25:45 I cannot be arsed to go through all these threads but please tell me someone has deleted their account in disgust - I will be angry if they haven't!
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: lambourn red on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:26:31 all will be forgotten when he is waiving his scarf in the middle of the kebab stadium pitch on wednesday night goading the piss stained shirt wearing deluded cunts
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: ghanimah on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:27:16 all will be forgotten when he is waiving his scarf in the middle of the kebab stadium pitch on wednesday night goading the piss stained shirt wearing deluded cunts I really hope that happens Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Shaw Rosso on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:29:48 all will be forgotten when he is waiving his scarf in the middle of the kebab stadium pitch on wednesday night goading the piss stained shirt wearing deluded cunts Amen to that Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: JanAageisGod on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:34:24 All the people boing McMahon non stop were never sitting round me the one time I tried a "one Chris Kamara" chant.
From the reaction, I was waiting to get hustled out by people in Burberry into the back of a car with blacked out windows and clubbed all the way up the M6. Though it could be I'm just a gutless coward. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:51:03 I'm pretty sure he's said similar last season. Yeah, I think he did. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: jonny72 on Monday, September 3, 2012, 21:56:03 Apologies if this has already been mentioned....
There was a 15 minute section on the 'incident' on Radio 5's Monday Night Club tonight including an interview with Wray. Available on iPlayer (starts at 1h39m); http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mdgqq/5_live_Sport_The_Monday_Night_Club_03_09_2012/ After it (not on the above clip) John Motson said he has some man love (my words) going on for Paolo. Making the point that everyone says we need characters in the game to make it interesting and it's hypocritical if we then have a go at them when it all blows up and turns to shit. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: WEBBERhyde on Monday, September 3, 2012, 22:17:32 Ideal situation on Wednesday...Wes starts the match, we go 2-0 up, Wesley saves an undeserved penalty to stop the scum getting back into the game and williams goes onto score a last minute team goal to put the result beyond doubt, sparking jubilant scenes for the mighty reds with Paolo running down the touch line past the Pox fans to celebrate with the team infront of the town fans...
We dick the Pox, Williams gets a goal, Paolo and Wes have a big love in, and we're all reminded of how much we all love Di Canio...and the Pox fans implode. ...and the FA decide Paolo is too loveable to give a touch line ban to again.? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Nemo on Monday, September 3, 2012, 22:20:29 ...and the FA decide Paolo is too loveable to give a touch line ban to again.? Believable right up until this point, which is plainly ridiculous. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: WEBBERhyde on Monday, September 3, 2012, 22:26:31 Believable right up until this point, which is plainly ridiculous. Yeh....I'm a fucking nutter. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, September 3, 2012, 22:34:28 I've tried not to comment on PDC at all actually since his appointment, until yesterday. But thanks for the back-handed ack You're only ever on here when Paolo makes a mistake. You don't like him, we get it.Title: Re: Re: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: AldbourneRed on Monday, September 3, 2012, 23:04:41 There was a 15 minute section on the 'incident' on Radio 5's Monday Night Club tonight including an interview with Wray. Available on iPlayer (starts at 1h39m); That 5 minute interview with JW is a brilliant example of why he is, to my mind, the perfect Town chairman, particularly with Pdc in the dugout. Paolo or Wray would separately be very good for any club, however together their contrasting, and often complimentary, styles and attitudes should make us a force to be reckoned with in any league. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 3, 2012, 23:20:03 What did he say? sorry, wasn't ignoring you was working. Glad jonny put up the link so people can hear for themselves now Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 23:49:07 You're only ever on here when Paolo makes a mistake. Apart from all the other times, that is. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Coca Fola on Monday, September 3, 2012, 23:52:29 You only seem to post about him.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Monday, September 3, 2012, 23:55:42 You only seem to post about him. Apart from all the other stuff, that is. Or maybe you only read the threads about him?Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 00:00:37 After it (not on the above clip) John Motson said he has some man love (my words) going on for Paolo. Making the point that everyone says we need characters in the game to make it interesting and it's hypocritical if we then have a go at them when it all blows up and turns to shit. And in the above clip, Chapman also makes the comparison with other "characters" such as Steve Evans and Graham Westley who also put people's backs up but get promotions so "it works" (his quote, not mine). And yes Wray comes across really well. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: DV on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 02:01:27 I think Paolos messages was support the team or go and watch Oxford not don't question me or go watch Oxford - although I don't think he expressed it perfectly.
...In a way he's right - don't boo the players/subs/tactics, support the team. Over re-active mongs :) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: herthab on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 05:23:51 A very good post in response to The Sam Morshead column, on the Adver site:
"Nah, Sam, youre wrong - we DO want spats, squabbles and tirades......but from the opposition. The gleeful response of the Preston fans to what happened on Sunday says it all - they knew that we had imploded after 20 minutes and there was no way on this earth that we were going to take anything out of the game. The further interviews with Preston players on the net shows they and their fans were absolutely scared of playing us, and expected a tougher game, and are delighted to heaven and back to see us leave with nothing. The further glee displayed by Oxford fans looking forward to playing a team in total disarray has been galling to have to read on the net in the last 24 hours. Hopefully now they will be back to where they should be - afraid of getting stuffed. We all love an eventful game - its what we go to football for - we'd just rather it wasnt us that was ridiculed on Sky Sports every 15 minutes last night and most of the day today. Hopefully all involved have learned lessons about "dirty laundry" and "airing in public" - its not a good look. Hopefully both parties have matured a little bit and will now keep their differences where they should be kept - behind closed doors Some of the obsolute idiots posting total tosh on this and other sites in the last 24 hours need a bit of a reality check as well. We dont need to sack the manager - we dont need a new keeper. The pair of them are the best respectively we have had for some time. Lets enjoy them doing what they do best...." Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 05:54:10 Apart from all the other stuff, that is. Or maybe you only read the threads about him? Pauld does post on other stuff he just chooses to post on PDC threads when things go wrong. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 06:03:44 Pauld does post on other stuff he just chooses to post on PDC threads when things go wrong. You mean he chooses to post on the most topical threads? The scoundrel! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 06:12:42 Ok, I'm not the only one to say something on Paul's self imposed exile on all things PDC suddenly ending am I? The timing of his return to PDC threads could have been better given his known personal views on PDC.
Perhaps is all just coincidence. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: thedarkprince on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 06:23:57 But that's the thing, he has been posting in other threads too recently. I think it's just that people are only noticing him in these ones as they know he has reservations (putting it mildly) about Paolo.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 07:09:32 Ok, I'm not the only one to say something on Paul's self imposed exile on all things PDC suddenly ending am I? The timing of his return to PDC threads could have been better given his known personal views on PDC. That's a fair point Azza. FWIW, I've tried (probably not terribly successfully) to set aside my personal feelings about the man, to examine his behaviour in this as a manager. Which does weight it slightly toward the negative - I don't think anyone thinks he's come out of this well. But I obviously do accept there's a credit side in promotion at a gallop, positive football, the sheer balls the team have shown in the cups etc to offset that. I'd hoped there were signs he was also learning from his mistakes (as I think JW was suggesting on R5 last night) e.g. in very quickly correcting the poor signings at the start of last season. He's still got some way to go in that clearly, and how costly it proves to be and whether we can afford it are yet to be seen. In the meantime, I don't think it's unreasonable for I and others to point out his behaviour over the past two days (because it did continue into yesterday with the McMahnio rant at fans) has been appalling and more befitting of a teenager than a grown man, much less one who is the very public figurehead of our club. If as JW seems to think he is learning from those mistakes all to the good, it will perhaps mean he can carve out a career as a manager. If he can't, I don't think he'll be able to sustain it long-term, here or anywhere. But we'll see. And FWIW, I suspect the Wes thing is patched up (very skillfully by JW) rather than over. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 07:30:22 Paul, good post.
FWIW I have some serious man love for Wray. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 07:33:14 FWIW I have some serious man love for Wray. He's a bit balding for my tastes but I know what you mean :) He must have been tearing his hair out (metaphorically) several times over the past year or so but he does the "swan" public demeanour thing incredibly wellAnd thanks btw. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:03:53 If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend everyone takes a look at the latest article on the Washbag.
Paolo di Canio's Uncertainty Principle (http://thewashbag.com/2012/09/04/paolo-di-canios-uncertainty-principle/) If there is a better summing up of the big man's approach out there, I'll be amazed. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:07:36 Paul, good post. Jeremy Wray is brilliant.FWIW I have some serious man love for Wray. FACT! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:10:03 When is he contracted until?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:16:45 Apologies if this has already been mentioned.... Thanks for that, interesting listening.There was a 15 minute section on the 'incident' on Radio 5's Monday Night Club tonight including an interview with Wray. Available on iPlayer (starts at 1h39m); http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mdgqq/5_live_Sport_The_Monday_Night_Club_03_09_2012/ After it (not on the above clip) John Motson said he has some man love (my words) going on for Paolo. Making the point that everyone says we need characters in the game to make it interesting and it's hypocritical if we then have a go at them when it all blows up and turns to shit. Jeremy Wray is without doubt the best chairman we have ever had IMO. As for the characters thing, I have had mates who support Liverpool, Pompey, Saints, Cardiff and Spurs come up to me and say that they love Paolo, they love characters and football does need more characters, but all of them say they wouldn't want him managing them because they would tear their hair out at times.......this is what we have. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:19:05 Oh and Steve Claridge is still an utter cock.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:23:34 Sorry, which bit was crazy? Subbing someone he thought was underperforming? That's madness, madness I tell ya! Haha exactly. Those are the people he's referring to. I really don't give a shit what he's said. If you're gonna cry sack him for making a decision regarding his team then I'd rather you fucked off too. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:28:51 Must admit that I though the sub was a bit nuts to begin with. When it emerged it wasn't for 'making a mistake', however, it seemed more rational.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:33:00 Must admit that I though the sub was a bit nuts to begin with. When it emerged it wasn't for 'making a mistake', however, it seemed more rational. Likewise, when it was coming through on Twitter I just had my head in my hands but it all made sense in the end. I don't agree with the public slating at the end and the Pox comment wasn't needed but I'd rather have Di Canio leading us upwards than having him fuck off. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Dozno9 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:43:48 Jeremy Wray is without doubt the best chairman we have ever had IMO. That's what I was going to write but without doing Wray down that's not a hard accolade to have. However, I think it's going to be terribly difficult to find someone better.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:46:55 That's what I was going to write but without doing Wray down that's not a hard accolade to have. However, I think it's going to be terribly difficult to find someone better. Thats very true, not a massively difficult act to follow but in saying that he is one of the best things to ever happen to this club.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:48:19 If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend everyone takes a look at the latest article on the Washbag. Paolo di Canio's Uncertainty Principle (http://thewashbag.com/2012/09/04/paolo-di-canios-uncertainty-principle/) If there is a better summing up of the big man's approach out there, I'll be amazed. That is a great read and as it rightly, and worryingly, notes Di Canio has yet to fall out with the board. It would seem to be only a matter of time, and there'll only be one winner in that one. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 08:50:37 That is a great read and as it rightly, and worryingly, notes Di Canio has yet to fall out with the board. It would seem to be only a matter of time, and there'll only be one winner in that one. Maybe he has fallen out with the board. (Not at the present time, I mean in the past. No need to panic) Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:03:22 Maybe he has fallen out with the board. (Not at the present time, I mean in the past. No need to panic) I'm not aware he has, aside from the Rovers' game away which was more of a hissy fit than a falling out. I mean one where it drags on for days when our very compliant board reach a point where they have to say no can do. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:07:02 Oh and Steve Claridge is still an utter cock. why? Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:11:36 why? He always comes accross as "holier than thou" and he knows everything about football and football management, wierd for such a failed ex manager who is unlikely to get another football job IMO. He never has a good thing to say about Swindon, pretty much ever, and I don't think he has ever forgiven the club for not appointing him manager a few years back when he went public about his interview with us.I also very much disagree with a lot of what he says and find him pretty much unlikeable as a person. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:14:10 He always comes accross as "holier than thou" and he knows everything about football and football management, wierd for such a failed ex manager who is unlikely to get another football job IMO. He never has a good thing to say about Swindon, pretty much ever, and I don't think he has ever forgiven the club for not appointing him manager a few years back when he went public about his interview with us. oh. Don't see it myself and think he's alrightI also very much disagree with a lot of what he says and find him pretty much unlikeable as a person. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Peter Venkman on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:17:38 oh. Don't see it myself and think he's alright Just not a man I have ever warmed to in any way. And thats not going by his performances against us either, he almost always scored against us when he played. I just find myself not agreeing with him at all. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:46:42 Fuck me - he's giving another interview on SSN in a minute.
WTF he going to rant on about this time! Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:48:59 May I suggest you listen to the interview first before freaking out. Just a suggestion like.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:52:11 Phew - almost calm today
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:54:01 We need a Nemo-style bullet point summary.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:56:08 What was this one about?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 09:56:47 Expects a good performance even if he puts out the same XI
Will be a great atmospere (from Swindon fans,not Oxford!!!) Any debut players will be wanting to impress Reading between the lines it's as if he knows that if there's a huge fall out it is followed by a big performance. Surely he hasn't done all this just to ensure we stuff the Pox? SSN seem to think we are playing tonite And for the first time on SSN they mentioned Chris Wilder - fucking limelight hogging cunt Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 11:31:15 If you haven't already, I'd strongly recommend everyone takes a look at the latest article on the Washbag. Paolo di Canio's Uncertainty Principle (http://thewashbag.com/2012/09/04/paolo-di-canios-uncertainty-principle/) If there is a better summing up of the big man's approach out there, I'll be amazed. Did Paolo really once hit Ron Atkinson as suggested, if thats the case I love him that little bit more. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: A Gent Orange on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 11:33:55 Well, it's in Di Canio's autobiography. Can't remember the exact wording but they came to blows. Which is pretty much the way most chapters end.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 11:58:30 Apologies if this has already been mentioned.... There was a 15 minute section on the 'incident' on Radio 5's Monday Night Club tonight including an interview with Wray. Available on iPlayer (starts at 1h39m); http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b01mdgqq/5_live_Sport_The_Monday_Night_Club_03_09_2012/ After it (not on the above clip) John Motson said he has some man love (my words) going on for Paolo. Making the point that everyone says we need characters in the game to make it interesting and it's hypocritical if we then have a go at them when it all blows up and turns to shit. Coming to this rather late...but just listened to this over lunch. The importance of the Chairman/Manager relationship has been touched on many times before - but you can really see how it is that Jeremy Wray and PDC work together. As the Washbag article points out, how will the dynamic work, though, when results are not going our way? Time will tell (although, hopefully, not too soon.) Over all, a great piece of radio - and, again, a great interview from our Chairman who, I hope, will be with us for many years to come. (PDC will be gone one day, but we'll need to hold on to Jeremy Wray for the longer term. No doubt about it.) I'm glad I listened. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: fuzzy on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 14:14:22 Cheese? I fucking hate cheese. Faecal matter of Stan (unless it is on a pizza of course).
Edited to correct basic spelling error :doh: Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 14:18:36 Cheese? I fucking hate cheese. Faecal matter of Stan (unless it is on a pizza of course). Edited to correct basic spelling error :doh: Get out. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 14:18:55 Urgh, Stan.
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 14:27:40 Stan Bush? Stan Marsh?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: penhillbilly on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:15:37 Stan Andy- Liver, surely :hmmm:
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: jonny72 on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:31:31 The importance of the Chairman/Manager relationship has been touched on many times before - but you can really see how it is that Jeremy Wray and PDC work together. As the Washbag article points out, how will the dynamic work, though, when results are not going our way? Time will tell (although, hopefully, not too soon.) I've thought for some time that Paolo needs Swindon as much as Swindon needs Paolo. The club were at a low point and needed a manager to reinvigorate the club, to raise morale (for the fans as well as the club) and to get it moving in the right direction. Whilst Paolo needed a club that would put up with him. Thought the Wray interview went some way to confirming this. Not sure about Paolo actually learning anything or improving, as Wray seemed to suggest. Paolo is just as bad as he's always been and I really don't see that changing - is there really much difference between the person who went off on one on Sunday and the person who sat down on the pitch and sulked when he didn't get the penalties he thought he'd won all those years ago at West Ham? I'm not complaining though as it's great fun. I'll take Paolo over Paul fucking Hart any day of the week. I spoke with a West Ham fan when Paolo first took over, whose views on him were akin to god worship. I really didn't get it - a good player with an attitude but I just didn't understand why they held him in such high regard. I do now. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:34:48 That is a great read and as it rightly, and worryingly, notes Di Canio has yet to fall out with the board. It would seem to be only a matter of time, and there'll only be one winner in that one. Yep, brilliant article. He will fall out with the Board at some point though, it's almost inevitable and the only logical conclusion if he carries on in the same vein (which he will). Hopefully we'll be back in the Championship before that happens.Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: kerry red on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:38:32 But can his management style work higher up the food chain?
Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:47:28 But can his management style work higher up the food chain? If he stays with us, yes. Title: Re: Adver News: Apologise or get out Post by: penhillbilly on Tuesday, September 4, 2012, 18:48:15 But can his management style work higher up the food chain? let's hope we get to find out.... :nod: |