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Luton today had a bid for oxford utd striker constable turned down said bit not high enough.he would be ideal for us think he is for sale at right price.

not good enough for us.

Don't think it would be very P.C him coming here.

I thought this was going to be about the talent that was one of our greatest painters. Sadly not :-)

No thanks.

Perhaps one of the mods can change the title of the thread to cuntstable, to avoid any further confusion.

I would love to go to a cunt stable.

He's shit.

I'm under the impression he's some sort of Alan Shearer demi god?

Is it true that he's actually a town fan? Bit shitty of him playing for the scum

Yes he is a town fan.

He has a top earner clause at Oxford. We enquired last summer but weren't prepared to match that clause given we had the likes of Douglas on the books at that time who were on a fair wedge. Whether that might change now we don't have the high earners here, who knows.

He's not a Swindon fan. Spurs I believe.

Yes he is,just not going to tell you lot that though is he.

He even moved to Bassett so he can hear the roar of the mighty County Ground crowd on a matchday.

(If the wind is in the right direction.)





(back when we used to cheer stuff)

Went to university with a chap that knew him and he's a swindon fan first, Spurs fan second. If your employer hated STFC, would you pipe up and admit to supporting STFC?! actually i would and then join STFC anyway...

he's definately not shit in league 2. his numbers stack up very well

Question for OF, Eric...what's the deal with Constable?  I've seen him described as one of your genuine stars, but have also seen contradictory reports.  This weekend, for example, there was one comment to the effect that he was off the pace and out of his depth - yet again.  It was the 'yet again' bit that surprised me.  Is he a luxury player...great when he decides he wants to play, but otherwise a bit of a passenger?

I know him quite well and yes he is a Swindon fan and would love a move to us.

Doubt it will happen though but he aint a half bad player.

Bridges have surely been burned now? Or are we not fussed anymore?

I could forgive him if he eventually saw the error of his ways. I think it'd be different if he was here and then defected.

If we did get him would we force a strict code of conduct on him like B Munich did to Neuer?

A reasonable forward who found his level. We should aim for better though

Always thought he looked a good, composed striker.

Seemed to always produce some nice neat finishes for Oxford.

Haven't we got 1 possibly 2 more strikers coming in on loan anyways? any news on them

Obviously scores plenty of goals which makers him a star in some people's eyes. Others look at his poor conversion rate of chances to goals. He certainly works hard for the team, if that isn't too much of a cliche.

I know he's from Wiltshire, but don't think he's ever been a Swindon fan.

I dunno, the Swindon gear he used to wear at Cirencester College gave me a different impression.

100% a swindon fan Eric.Not that it really matters,i always get the impression supporting clubs is different for players.

tainted

I don't see why we would even consider a 'not shit in League 2' player.

Going to be pretty fucking useless to us next season...

^^ Have to agree I'm afraid.

I'm taking the bait.... but you're happy with Bodin (a youth team striker with zero goals), De Vita (in and out of the team at Scottish 2nd Division champions) and Kerrouche (United Arab Emirates 2nd division last year)?

I like all three mentioned but constable, a proven league 2 striker, would have a better chance of firing up to league 1. that's the most important thing!

We'll worry about league 1 IF it happens. Got to get there first.

That said, never been that impressed with what I've seen of Constable. Which in truth is very little.

I hear there's a proven league 2 striker on loan at Wycombe.

If we get Benyon back as our target man, we're in trouble. Partly due to his broken hand, but mostly because he's got the aerial presence of Warwick Davis.

It was said with tongue firmly in cheek, you are of course right.

If he IS a Swindon fan, why didn't he wear his red and white scarf and talk about his love of STFC when he first joined Oxford? At that first press conference he was waving an OUFC scarf, and smiling. Are you suggesting he's a shallow liar too?

Constable is 110% a Swindon fan, a few years back he was handing out trophies at a 5-a-side when he was playing for Chippenham and they asked him if he was excited about the trial he had at Swindon the next week he replied 'yes, I've always been a Swindon fan so it would be a dream for me'

He's a red.

Hardly likely to admit is he.

I dont recall beauchamp doing the same...

The worthless shitcunt

Don't be a dick. As DRS says, its a bit different for players. Jamie Carragher is well known for being an Everton fan, but has the professionalism not to mention it and hasn't stopped him playing for their biggest rivals.

As already mentioned,players dont look at club rivalry like fans do. It's their job and they get the best they can for themselves personally. For constable that was poxford

Alan Smith. Leeds through and through, joined Man U, etc, etc.

Did you seriously think I meant that? Did you really think I thought he might have worn a Swindon scarf to his Oxford press conference?

Truth hurts, Banana Man.

Please can we not have another day of this?

No. I took your comment to be a questioning of his Swindon fandom but using exaggeration for effect. If I have misunderstood your point I can only offer my humble apologies.

You won't have any trouble from me. We all know Constable's a Swindon fan and always has been. We also all know footballers follow the ££££ now and know no loyalty to their background. Bearing this in mind, my press conference comment was so obviously a "whoosh" that I'm surprised anybody fell for it!

I don't need your apologies my friend, just your respect.  ;)

I don't know...I can hear the gentle hiss of the deflation of Eric's ballon of pomposity.

Sssssssss ..........

Yes I am happy with those players. I am happy with everyone Di Canio has bought in or retained because they obviously have the right attitude and aren't scared of hard work.

Constable is proven at Oxford - no where else. Couldn't do the business for Shrewsbury and whilst in L1 failed with Walsall.

He's found his level - at level that should only be our level short term.

Ardiles i agree with you
However Eric seems a fairly intelligent person, maybe he should start his own thread rather than always following the crowd and jumping on the back of comments from others
we have to remember he is on this site for a reason

I'm on this site because it's a good read. I'm not sure if you're hinting I'm here to wind you all up? Surely "thisis" would be the place to go for cheap abuse, either way round?

I only reply to threads involving OUFC in some way. I start some of them, piggyback others. Isn't that how forums work?

Glad you have pointed this out one of debates that should be started away from this thread(in my view)
It was great to beat Crewe at the weekend but let's not get carried away
With Paolo as the manager everyone will want to beat us i think our next 4 games will giva a clear picture if we can go on a run
Cheltenham away
Shrewesbury away
 the place were the Oxon cross home
Rotherham home
As for the place were the Oxon cross, how do you/us think they will do this season

Paolo, it's Paolo.

Paolo

Was thinking the same. 

If I'm honest, I expect you to get an auto-promotion spot. We didn't have a great first game, but several new signings are still to debut. I would expect an improvement on last season, so probably play-offs.

As far as STFC-OUFC games are concerned, I'm not even going to guess!

I think several of our rivals will do well this season, the Pox, the Jills, the Slave traders and Creepy Crawley will all be there or there about...with us hopefully there too.

I've never heard Bristol Rovers referred to as the Slave Traders before, only City.

Big Slave traders and Small Slave traders! same shit city of Bristhole.

i thought rovers were the gas or way back the black arabs

I would agree with your comments however the next 4 games 2 local derbys plus 2 potential challengers it will be a test

slave traders are deffo shitty. Gas or gas heads for rovers scum

They love being called the Gas though!

Does it matter what anyone calls them? surely its meant as an insult and "gas" and "gasheads" is not an insult as it is their actual nickname by their own fans.

just cunts will do

That made me laugh somewhat.

Gas for Rovers and Slave Traders for City as I understood it and 'scum' for the scum.

the shirt batterers

Have to say I always refer to City as Shitheads.
Maybe that's because I used to work with a Rovers fan & that's what they called them, and it seemed appropriate

I've always thought - Ox = Pox/Scum/Inbreds, Gills = Pikeys/Scum, City = Slave Traders/Shitty/Scum, Rovers = Scum (not a lot goes with Rovers)

  :hmmm:

Wovers

Looks like he is off to Luton

Surprised if O*ford are getting rid, despite some fans disillusionment. He's got near 1 in 2 average for them. They must have some shit hot forwards that Flint and Comazzi will kick the crap out of.

Thought Luton's bid got rejected?

Tom Craddock might be decent. I've not seen him play but he was banging them in for Luton.. Got quite a lot for the scum last season too.

Went back with improved apparantly and he is out of the team tomorow

If he joins Luton then that will be three attempts at League football for Constable and they have all resulted in his dropping back down to Non-League.

There's probably something in that.

Where are you getting your info from?

If he's not in the team tomorrow I wouldn't be surprised. We play 3 up top and have Potter, Smalley, Pittman, and Guy on loan who could fit into that, along with Constable (also Craddock out for a month with a knee injury).

Constable played 120 minutes against Cardiff on Wednesday and ran himself into the ground (hardly the performance of someone on their way out of the club, or unhappy as some people are mongering) so a rest would be wise.

Also with regards to the transfer, I doubt he'd want to drop down to the Conference again. Nor do I see any reason why we would want to sell him, unless Wilder has someone better to take his place.

Youre getting slagged off on the yellowsforum again OF

Ah, just seen it. Thanks tans, I'll get involved.

I still dont think he's good enough to play for Swindon Town. Never has been. 

He'd have got a game last season, surely.

In fact, you'd have got a game for us last season.

Interesting. The lad runs through proverbial brick walls... even if he is one of that lot. Still would go for Clarke given the choice as he's more mobile. Wotty sounds intriguing too. Decisions, decisions...!

Some agent by the name of @Itkagent1962 claiming we are bidding to sign Constable on twitter.

IF true I'm not sure he is the answer. But it would make the derby more interesting - assuming there isn't a "pussy clause" to prevent him playing in that one.

He couldn't be signed in time to play anyway,.

I very much doubt he is answer too, but to parade him on the pitch Sunday would be quite frankly, superb!

I'd expect Oxford to mete out the same treatment we gave to Beauchamp when he returned to the County Ground.  The longer the striker situation remains unresolved, the more inclined I am to believe that a bid for Constable may be in the pipeline.  Still doubt this will happen at the moment though.

"So Brabin has said Luton are still in for Constable. Surprise surprise. Also expect Swindon to enter the bidding"

"What with constable living close to swindon and having a connection with the club from his younger days they remain a attractive club"

"Also having the captains armband at Oxford taken away still really gets to him. He's gone from the main man to one of the lads."

These are his tweets. So who is this guy. Claims to be an agent..interesting.

He's starting for Oxford this evening vs Shrewsbury.

Meh, if anything was imminantly 'on' he'd have been on the bench, withdrawn. Wouldn't he?

Not really. We still played Austin when he wanted to go.

Not until a formal bid lodged and accepted by selling club, subject to medical etc

Not always. This move (if indeed it is a move) can often mean 'he's an asset in our squad-we don't need to sell-so pay what we're asking'.

That's what I meant by imminent.

Think he played for Shrewsbury at this level and was dog dooh, not wanted.

what has he done for the pox this season?

3 games, 0 goals according to Wiki

He'd slot in nicely to our side then..

 :suicide:

His record is pretty decent in the conference and league 2 with Oxford , but he has a habit of making a move up the league ladder then having to step back down it.
He scored 17 last year which shouldn't be overlooked, he has started poorly but by all accounts is unhappy up the A420 which may account for some of it.

Could argue he's an experienced goalscorer, more so than Leon Clarke

Could argue he's a Scummer and even worse than that a Town fan who has prostututed himself to wear the piss stained scum shirt. He knew what he was doing when he signed for them and should never ever be allowed to grace the CG. Also why the fuck would we give those cunts money?

I want to sign him now, simply to see your reaction.  :)

I would not be a happy bunny. It may well end up in an alcoholic TEF meltdown. Red and yellow don't mix - lets keep it that way. We've had enough Scummers connected to the club - Bumchum, Todd, Crosby. I won't make exceptions but I do feel a bit mean putting Mark Jones in the same bracket with that lot but he's still a Scummer.

What if he signed and got 30 goals?

Ex scummer or not, if he signed for us and got 25+ goals a season I wouldn't mind.

He'd still be a Scummer. If he scored a hat trick every game for us he'd still be a Scummer. But in a way worse than an ordinary Scummer because being a Town fan he knew what he was doing.

It'd be amazing....no Town player has scored 30 league goals in a season since Harry Morris.  Think we may have to settling for something altogether more modest this season.

Eh?  That's a bit like comparing di Canio with Sam Parkin.  

Virtually all of Constable's goals are in non league, whereas Clarke's are in the top few divisions.  Granted Constable has more but don't you think Clarke would in the Conference?

And, of course, Mooney.


Got me thinking...when was the last time we had an out & out Town fan playing for us?  Someone who grew up dreaming of playing for the club?  (Asked the question because I couldn't think of anyone, but now I'm wondering if Billy Bodin might fit the bill.)

Oooh so many bites.

From what I can gather, his fammily are proper Town fans. But he's someone typical of his age from this area and decided that STFC wasnt quite fashionable enough for him, and decided to tell people he supported Spurs (despite probably going to WHL a handful of times and the CG plenty).

But now the day of rekonning is here. He lives in Bassett and knows scoring against us would make him a hate figure in his own area. Not even his own fammily want him to do well. Hits home I guess?

But if you take a different slant and say 30 goals in all competitions... (Which is what I meant Reginald)

I doubt it.  He's a professional footballer, and professional footballers don't think like fans do.  It's his livelihood.  While he plays for Oxford, he'll want to do well for them.  If he signs for us, he'll want to do well for us.  Simple.  This particular local rivalry has been on the back-burner for over a decade anyway, so I doubt he's devoted all that much time thinking about it, to be honest.

Well he'd be entering some very rarified company....since the War 4 players have managed 30 or better in all comps in a season..Coxy....Jimmy Quinn....Duncan Shearer and Don Rogers  (twice)

Michael Pook. Which makes the flack he got from our fans even more difficult to understand

Paynter was only 1 off. And he's shit!

Yes....good point....I'd rather have any of our current 5 strikers than Billy Paynter.

really :hmmm:

I'd have Connell over Paynter. The rest, no.

Yes....Connell is a year older, and has scored half the League goals of Paynter....makes sense to me.

Billy Bodinis a possible Swindon fan I guess. other recent posiblities are Michael Pook, Adi Viveash, Rhys Evans....im struggling now.

9 of Paynter's 29 goals in 09/10 were penalties. Takes the gloss of the total.

Did Eastoe not get 31 goals one season 74-75?,We missed out on promotion by 3 points.Someone will doubtless correct me if I am wrong.As for Constable not good enough.If we want to take a bit of a gamble Styche at FGR wouldn't be a bad shout.If not then Clarke on loan is a pretty good call.

I wasn't convinced that the stats would in fact be all that damning of Alan Connell and although I love your posts Reg, I prefer negative posts about new players to be fair, so nerdishly I looked up the stats.

Except for last season, Connells' seasons were in the Football League.  Although you could say 48 goals for League clubs by Connell is roughly half of BPs 83, Connell's strike rate for League clubs IS superior. 

Billy may have been a sh*t buy (wages - wise at least) after his best season stepping up a league but let's hope Alan Connell isn't, even if he is unlikely to match last season's return (unless we bring back Peacs to feed him!)

Connell          187  (104)   73   but take out best season  (conference with Grimsby):-    141  (104)   48


Paynter          262   ( 73)   83   but take out best season  (play offs with Danny):-        217  ( 68)   54


League Club Strike rate for all matches is in fact better ignoring substitute appearances and even giving equal weight with full appearances to substitute appearances of say 215 minutes average, Connell's strike rate is about the same.

Whatever happened to the young lad we got from the North East at the beginning of last season - a big fucker striker. Can't remember his name but he came from a slightly lower standard than Charlie.

You're not thinking of John Campbell are you?

Think his name was Campbell, and he went to Darlington following trials with us, and Orient.Apparently Wilson didn't /couldn't make his mind up on him.

No, we turned him down. this was a 18/19 year old beanpole we had high hopes for but I haven't heard anything about him for ages so presumably he's gone. Was never given a squad number.

Yep...Eastoe 26 in the League and 5 in FA Cup.

As regards Paynter having about twice the amount of league goals as Connell, RedRag, why would you want to take Paynter's best season out of the equation.

Fact is Paynter was a decent player for us, good Div 3 striker, score a few and set up a few for a strike partner.  Probably not good enough for the Championship....but not our problem.  We've got plenty of our own to worry about.

Cherno Samba?

Jon Campbell is at Darlington. Seems to be doing alright there.

You're not wrong - Paynter is just the kind of target man we could do with now and would probably bring scrapping and ball winning amd knock down qualities we desperately need right now.  I also accept the greater weight of Billy's league goals is worth pointing out.

I took out Paynter's best season because it was uncharacteristic and because "league" goals ruled out Connell's comparable best season.

Even counting Billy's best season and excluding Connell's best (non-league season) season there is no discernible difference in their strike rates.

TBF to AC though, even if he lacks Billy's battling qualities he may score some spectacular and crucial goals even when our overall play does not merit them - and this Sunday would do me fine if we can't be murdering them on all fronts.

Hasn't Connell been used as a winger a lot too? Not going to help the goals-games ratio!

so was Rogers mind ;)

I don't get why people are excited by the prospect of signing Constable.  A grafter he may be but he definitely can't hold a ball up to bring players in other players.

Constable sounds like a last resort and i think by then we'd have scraped the barrel if we try and buy him.  I'd rather we used Kerrouche to hold the ball up than sign Constable

I would like us to sign Constable because:

a) Those lot down the A420 would go mad
b) 90% of you lot would go mad
c) DV will probably explode in a fit or rage
d) Reg will cream himself with negativity
e) I think he'll actually score goals for us

f) It would also enable the hacks at the Adver to use the headline 'Good afternoon, Constable' when he scores a couple.

Beano is overweight, lazy kind of player, when the chips are down he goes missing by all accounts, surely we just need Clarke to partner Connell/Kerrouche. I would however love the fact that we would have poached a Pox player and be it he is a Town fan  :soapy tit wank:

If you are going to pretend to be a Swindon fan at least don't make it obvious!!

Incidentally where does the nickname 'beano' come from?

It's the passing resemblance to Plug from the Bash Street Kids.

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We had him on trial one pre-season a few years ago, albeit under a different manager and he wasn't good enough.

I'd rather we spent the money elswhere.

This

At last someone who talks sense

Let's hope comments like these don't look a little daft on Monday morning when he's banged a couple in for Oxford.  I'm not normally superstitious, but I hate tempting fate.

Right, so it's out of the question that maybe he's improved?

Didn't say that. I just think that he had a chance and wasn't good enough then and he's now playing for the Pox.  Everything about it is just wrong.

If we're going to have to pay for him, I think we should spend the money elsewhere.

Might be different if he was on a freebie and low wages.

Anyway, I don't think he's the type of player that we're looking for.

I don't think Jedi mind tricks work over the internet.

No cunts on me, Drugstable.

You bastard.  I've just inhaled a cup of coffee.

If Clarke signs i reckon that will be our lot for a while anyway.

He's player I'd have been mildly excited about signing before he showed that his potential was just that, potential and nothing more.

Achieved nothing, bad attitude and any player worth signing does not sign for his current club's direct rivals.  I can't think of a single player who has done that and isn't a cunt or who I would want playing for Swindon. 

Cue hundreds of examples of world class players who are puppy-loving gentleman who would slot nicely into the Swindon team...

It'll be payback for Mooney if we sign him. That for me is a good enough reason alone. He's scored goals at this level last season so dont see what the issue is there. It's typical of our fans to claim he's not good enough because he hasn't played at a higher level or the fact he wasn't very good 5 years ago overlooking the fact he's actually been good in the last few years.

Not for me. Mooney was a lot better player than Constable is now. And he cost them nothing.

Just shows how shit the rest of them must have been that they slid into non league.

Absolute rubbish!

We could do a Blackburn R/Shearer jobby

You are thinking of Steve Anthrobus again?

Yeah, that's the kind of thing I was on about...