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So the Yanks finally got their man, hiding (surprise surprise) in Pakistan. Lots of drunk American student seem to be celebrating at ground zero.

Obviously back in the real world it makes no difference to the real world, not even sure the right people were targeted after 9/11. But now that "revenge" has been served can "we" stop policing the world please. Ta.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-13256676

I don't think this will make any positive difference to anything. I'm not even that arsed about it all.

Quite! Like surely they will attack again as revenge for Bin Laden being killed?

Well done usa, it only took you 10 years.

As jfw said, bound to be retribution somewhwre

I'd imagine Pakistan is going to be politically sent to Coventry. Thankfully the US can't invade them because they actually have proper weapons!  But it won't have come as shock he was hiding out in a country with such  corrupt officialdom.

The drunk Yanks celebrating at the White House are no better than the flag-burning crowds in places like Iran, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc.

they've killed a martyr and to some extent a scapegoat.a trophy killing.
this will do nothing to end terrorism when the usa and its supporters conduct themselves in the way they do.
if anything we are more vunerable than ever to attacks.

Here's to Osama.

Greatest hide 'n' seek player since 2001.

All those bloody caves we searched and he was living it up in the biggest £1 million villa in town, highest walls of any other building surrounding it which had no phone lines/communications in or out. Just down the road from a military camp.

Fucking genius.

God Bless America *high five*.

Danny Wilson's Crispy's mates are having a party...

Cameron says this news will be welcomed across the country.  He got this forum wrong, so far and can I suggest, most of Bradford, Leicester and Londonistan will not be happy.

The U.S. IIRC has the ability to disable Pakistan's 'proper' weapons.

Im happy with it.

We cant let these people get away with genocide, there can be no hiding place.

Bin Laden used his huge fortune, hundreds of millions to try and turn the world back to the dark ages. His money has been funding the 'Madrassa' schools in Pakistan that have been radicalising Pakistani's, plunging it into chaos.

The overwhelming majority of Muslims (assume that's what the thinly veiled reference was to) in this country hate Bin Laden and co as much as anyone. Probably more so because they get a double whammy - just as likely to be victims of a terrorist attack as anyone else, but pretty much guaranteed to be singled out in the backlash by the moron in the street.

There'll almost certainly be a very small demo by the usual shouty self publicists who represent no-one but themselves and like the poppy-burners, the Mail, Express, Sun etc will give the 20-30 idiots front page publicity beyond their wildest dreams. And idiots like the EDL will use it to further their own agenda of hate.

Oh and then there's the heightened state of alert making everyone paranoid, the cops jumpy and where's the weight of that going to fall?

Yeah, I'm sure most Muslims are really looking forward to that.

Me too. Don't think it will make a blind bit of difference in terms of reducing or increasing the terror threat but bad guys getting theirs is pretty much always good news

Now that there's an increased terrorist threat, I'm being careful to stay away from crowded places. So I'm buying myself a season ticket at Oxford United ...

Trophy kill...

Massive surprise that Pakistan were harbouring him...big shock.

I would be alot me pleased if we bombed those Somalian pirates into dust..

Hmmm.... attendances yesterday:

Swindon vs Oldham 7,420
Oxford vs Lincoln 7,485

 :moon:

Great point but we were already relegated.

I am positive that if we were midtable we would of had 7,486

Pakistan is in danger of becomming a failed state, the governments has no control over large parts of the country. Its not a case of the Pakistan government harbouring him. They have known he was in Pakistan for around 4 years.

Not forgetting the 700 or so season tickets that have rained down on the pitch/dugout in recent games! I'm sure they'd be here if we were safe.  :D

Sorry, looking into it, I am talking bollocks.

This compound was 200 yards from Pakistans Military Academy. They have been harbouring him. Shocking.

Ha Ha of which over 700 were Lincoln fans you muppet !!

As usual Poxford bigging themselves up when the reality is that yet again (even though we have already been relegated) our support was bigger and better than yours....

Nothing changes - Poxford still trying to convince the world they are big time - but been found out as usual :)

The Taliban was created by the ISI(Pakistan Security Services), and their links to Kasmiri militant groups means they have a hard time seperating themselves from the hardliners, regardless of political will.  I'd imagine complicity with high-level terrorists goes most of the way towards the top of their society.

Well, if you want to back to roots, the Taliban and al-Qaeda both came out of the milieu of mujhadeen groups encouraged, funded and armed by the US and UK to defeat the Soviets in Afghanistan (including Bin Laden who was at some points directly US-funded). Much of that was front-ended by ISI. I'm not disagreeing btw - ISI is up to it's neck in jihadi militias in the region, largely for regional political concerns - just trying to add some historical perspective that we (the West) actually started the whole train running. We created a monster.

I blame the soviets... no need to invade Afghanistan in 1979.

Personally i wish we had captured him,tried him then posted his execution on some TV station for the world to see,ideally his head being hacked off ala what his followers do to innocent people regardless of any sentiment.
Yes the yanks have funny ways of doing things,who cares,this piece of scum is dead so it is a good day for me.
Any human that believes in killing,maiming innocent people can go to hell in my eyes,whatever religion or belief they follow....now that raises the question,will he go to a muslim hell or a christian hell?
Both with a bit of luck.

Spot on. Most of the troubles in the world can be traced back to the West (especially the USA) interfering in shit they had no right to. Until the West (especially the USA) stop acting like twats the shit is going to continue.

The Americans having a street party over it just sums it up. Twats.

Great point but you aren't mid-table and you didn't.


Read the original joke you dumb fuck.

A shit joke should at least make sense.

It's all just a ruse by the americans because they were jealous of the amount of coverage the royal wedding got

This seems as good a time as any for this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZdJRDpLHbw

Agreed. I haven't worked out what the overall reaction of the American public is, but anybody celebrating this news with a party needs to have a word with themself.

Perhaps not a party but I don't see what's wrong with being pleased that an evil scumbag has got what he deserved.

What would you do if a terrorist attacked Swindon, killed 3000 people and wasnt caught for 10 years?

There would be people celebrating. Some people use any excuse to have a go at Americans.

Whilst it's good they have finally caught him I find the comments from various politicians both past and present laughable. I mean anyone who seriously thinks the world is going to be safer needs to take a look at themselves. Yes they have got their leader but their number 2 is still at large and i'm sure we can expect some attacks to pay for Bin Laden's death in the near future. It's only going to make the situation worse than it probably currently is. Typical propoganda chance for Obama as well. He doesn't seem to be setting the world on fire across the pond so this will probably win him his 2nd term now   ::)

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I did read it you banana wielding prick

The fact is all you twats down the road LOVE trying to big yourself up

Nothing changes - you wannabees will always be tossers......

why are we talking about poxford in this thread?

Maybe Mr Kassam had links.

It will stop now

It wasn't a dig at Americans, more the idea that this is something to celebrate. It just happens that it has been more evident so far in the US. I am pleased to know bin Laden was found and that he is no longer able to mastermind any more murderous schemes - of course I am. I just think that celebrating the killing of anybody is morbid, and in some ways self-righteous. As for the street parties, which is the bit you picked me up on, they seem incredibly naive, possibly borne out of the Bush administartion's attempt to link all terrorism and evil to this one man.

I'd be glad they had been brought to justice, but I wouldn't be celebrating. Obviously it's not the entire country that is having a big party but the number of them that do think it's cause for celebration is worrying - especially as those pictures will be beamed around the world. Let's not forget that civilians were killed in this attack and that no one had been tried in a court.

The people of New York, Washington and various other places which have been directly affected by this man and his gang, have every right to celebrate however they wish IMO.

Given that there are more than a few in the crowd who have clearly lost loved ones in the atrocities and no doubt many others who were affected, they can do what they like as far as I'm concerned. If I had lost a loved one in similar circumstances I'm sure I would be tempted to feel the same.

Off topic a bit, but my 19 year old brother Jamie is currently serving in Afghanistan (from fb) -


 :)

Americans killed = celebrations in the 'Eastern' world.
Bin Laden killed = celebrations in the 'Western' world.

The irony isn't lost on me.

I'm glad he's dead, but why no pictures of his body, and why was he suddenly buried at sea, especially there is no sea anywhere near ?

I understand the burial at sea, means there can be no shrine or pilgrimage site. But seeing how quick they were to release photos of dead 'terrorists' before (Saddam's son in Iraq i think?) it is strange that they havent this time. I don't think they're lying about him being killed, they wouldn't get away with that, but i wouldn't mind betting he took far too many shots to the face and a bit of an emotional shoeing from the Yanks that meant they couldn't possibly publish any pictures.

Celebrating the death of scum is a bit different to celebrating the death of 1000's of innocent people as happened in certain locations on 9/11.

I understand also a burial at sea, but the time of the raid and being buried seems awfully quick. My concern is that as of yet I've not seen any proof that bin Laden has been killed - certainly not over the weekend. We only have the US President's word for it (and shock horror they've not entirely been honest in the past). I put forward no kind of theory but I'm not coming to any conclusions unless we see some kind of evidence.

the pic of bin laden was shown on sky news.

Is that the one from this morning which was faked

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/may/02/osama-bin-laden-photo-fake

or is there a newer one?

Of course it is.

But the irony is there isn't it? We bomb the shit out places and get innocent Muslims killed and this is always going to upset other Muslims, hence the celebrations at the retribution/revenge.

My thoughts exactly. Until I see some evidence, like when they announced they caught Saddam, there are doubts in the back of my mind.

The anti-American sentiment doesn't surprise me. However, given the circumstances I can see why they took to the streets in celebration. Especially when you see that the vast majority on the streets are young adults who have been brought up to understand that this chap was public enemy number one.

yes it was that one.
my mistake.aint had the news on since early morning

I dont believe a word of it

And this is how the news should have been announced...

[url width=255 height=156]http://29.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lkjsa0vvlq1qzu2tdo1_400.gif[/url]

Definitely dead

[url width=225 height=225]http://i1183.photobucket.com/albums/x480/tanswell2010/7328a9b5.jpg[/url]

West side!

I'm waiting for Al-Qaeda to deny that he's dead.

The whole swift burial allows for plenty of conspiracy theories.

haha what was that from then?

Its possible they took him alive and covered it up, but I can't see them totally making it up after 10 years. Though personally I think what is being reported is true.

At least the Obama administration allowed this to be announced in a far more appropriate manner than what they did when the U.S. found Saddam Hussein chomping on Mars bars in a makeshift Iraqi hide-out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S02BHmWPZNs

Court? Maybe if he had surrendered himself. He did mastermind and funded the 9/11 attacks. That is indisputable. Quite often these terror suspects do have a behind closed doors trials and are sentenced in their absence. That wasnt needed in this case.

I am against the death penalty for any offence, and I was against the torture of terror suspects at Guantanamo.

But Im glad you are in charge of protecting anyone from mass murdering terrorists. These people have declared war on the western world and need to be assasinated where incarceration is impossible.

As for people celebrating, do we really care what the rest of the world thinks? Didnt see any burning of Pakistani flags or Korans. Just pride in their own country. To an extent you are trying to control the uncontrollable, a spontaneous outburst of people's genuine feelings. When I saw Muslims in the middle east celebrating 9/11 it did disgust me to an extent, but that was their view and they were welcome to it, you cant stop them feeling the way they do.

The bit that shocked me the most was that the Yanks had been watching the compound for two years before doing anything. Normally they're as knee-jerk as they come.

If I was bin Laden then I'd certainly have a load of "I'm not dead" video releases pre-recorded for release over the next few months, ready for this exact eventuality.

oh fucking great so now we're going to get suicide cod - thank you America. I'm going to stick to proper EDL food like a Vindy.

was he a Scummer?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1595205.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1595205.stm)

they had helicopters?

No, apparently he was an Arsenal fan.

My thoughts exactly. Maybe the base was one of a number Bin Laden uses, and he had only just arrived.

I don't doubt that bin Laden is dead, America is not going to announce such a thing if there's a risk that he may pop up somewhere else in the future saying; "hi chaps I'm over here"

I query though the timings - normally in circumstances like this America are keen to release videos, photos, etc as quickly as possible - but this time they're strangely quiet despite bin Laden being the most wanted and the most famous.

Until there's some kind of proof that the event occurred over the weekend - then it's my view that there appears to be something amiss.

What you mean announce that the chap has been killed outright rather than 'we got him' (captured him) and subject him to a trial?

Normally, in that part of the world, they set fire to the body, which would've more appropiate, preferably using jet fuel !!!

So he's not so much of a Gooner as a Goner now

Especially with the timing. Obama is under extreme pressure at home via the ecomomy, and the allegations whether he should legally be president which made the White House release his birth certificate.

I wouldn't be surprised that Osama had the shit kicked out of him before they shot him in the head,and that is why we haven't seen any pictures, but whilst there is no picture of his death, there will still be speculation of him still being alive.

 :D

Well, the right-wingers who demanded to see his birth certificate need something new to latch on too.

"SHOW US THE BODY OBAMA!" etc

Maybe they should execute Donald Trump next

Now that I would pay to watch.

Muslims are always buried, never cremated. It is a religious requirement that the body be ritually washed and draped before burial, which should be as soon as possible after death.

Apparantly.

Funeral's normally the next day.

Elton John is donating the profits from his new single "sandals in the Bin" to muslims who take offence to Damn near everything.
The majority of muslims, that's the ones that know Paul D need not apply.

...I'm not even sure if that's a joke?

It's like it has all the pun bits, and has the structure of a joke, but you've missed the funny bit.

nemo beat me like a catholic orphan.

I have no idea what it's trying to say. Is the second bit even a sentence?

I can't help thinking that if the Yanks had been sent into rescue him he would have been dead years ago

So does this mean that The Free World is now safe from terror?

I'm sure that Al-Queda will just give up now and not launch a series of reprisal attacks.

Stupid Americans, if they'd kept their fucking noses out of The Middle East in the first place people like Osama Bin-Laden would never had come to prominance in the first place.

But they did get involved steve and this evil cunt needed sorting out.

I'm not disagreeing mate, but taking ten years to take out one man is hardly a success is it?

The US killing terrorists they created.

Only in America.

Oh come off it he would of been one either way. People like him just want an excuse to become what they become.

He lived a happily western lifestyle didn't he until he got brainwashed. I hate ameirica but it always seems that people will just just start bashing them no matter what.

The truth is the US used rebels in the middle east for their own benefit when they wanted to in the early 80's. They funded and trained these people.

I don't hate America I just think politically they're a bit of a joke. That's all.

He would have always been fucked up, that's true.

But would anyone have followed him, and killed countless people for his cause, if the USA had kept their noses (Not to mention their money, arms and 'expertise') out of other countries?

Everytime The US has decided to become involved in policing the world, since 1945, it has been a total disaster, both for them and the countries they are 'helping'.

Terrorists are scum, but look at the root causes.

The Taliban were already in place when he left Saudi Arabia though to join them.They were originally formed to try and overthrow the afghan goverment not blow up innocent people.They mainly ended up following him more because he could finance such things not because what he believed in.

Agree about them trying to police everything Steve and totally agree but my main point is that no matter what or how long it took there is 1 less wanker on earth and with the Tunisians and people in Libya showing that by protesting the way they do they can get change it may show confused youngsters in the middle east that there is a different way to protest rather than have to blow eachother up

No they weren't. That's the mujahadeen you're thinking of, which if not created by were financed and armed by the US and the UK. The mujahadeen would never have got anywhere in kicking the Soviets out of Afghanistan without that.

The Taliban were formed in the aftermath of Soviet withdrawal as the various mujahadeen groups descended into warlordism. The West, having achieved it's aim of giving the Russians a bloody nose and then "winning" the Cold War, abandoned Afghanistan to it's fate of years of civil war between these corrupt and brutal warlords. The Taliban were initially very popular precisely because they were seen to be "purer" and less venal/brutal than the warlords and so were widely backed by ordinary Afghans who were tired of dying and suffering at the hands of the warlords. It was only once they got into power that ordinary people saw how brutal they also were.

Those same warlords, by the way, became the "Northern Alliance" - the ones we put back in power post-9/11.

Hertha's right - Osama would always have been a nutter. But he'd have been one among many nutters, isolated and ignored and without infuence or followers. It took Western (and Soviet) fucking around with power politics to create the monster he became.

Either way the kunt is dead which is good news.

Bang on! :D

Though it also helped that he had some spare cash to play with as well

Whatever come from this, it won't be peace.

People will keep on dying fighting a cause they'll never be able to stop.

America's sheer arrogance in this is worrying.

This.

Not nearly as arrogant as some of the hardline Muslim clerics that brainwash the young non radical Musim's.....

I really can't get my head around how the ameiricans are in the wrong for celebrating this. What pisses me off more is that this country keeps refering to the 9/11 events seemingly ignoring what has happened to our own country since then.

I really don't have any problems if the American's want to celebrate this or otherwise.

I have no bad feelings towards America or Americans in general. I just feel the US government contradicts everything that it stands for.


Of course I totally agree. It goes without saying that I'm totally against radical Muslims and what they stand for.

Look at the history books, look into Operation Cyclone, look at what President Carter authorised and what President Reagan carried on.

I think they are more arrogant about their economic power. They have got more and more into debt, usually under Republican presidents without any idea of how to pay it back.

Militarily they can still carry out operations and implement their will like no other country. So in that sense they have good reason to be arrogant.

I really hope this is how they caught him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbncQ7kypFM&NR=1

You've just given me an excuse to post  :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k7IVFea0yEc&feature=related

http://www.wstcwnlk.com/ap/ap/top-news/tears-at-site-of-kenyas-1998-us-embassy-bombing/nCYm7/


Not forgeting innocent Kenyans who were murdered,there crime being to earn a living at the US Embassy.

Or the hundreds in Madrid, Mumbai, Bali, Somalia, the thousands in Iraq etc. The man left a trail of murder all over the globe. Yet still even amongst that, the 9/11 attack still stands out. It was and remains a uniquely horrific terrorist attack the like of which has never been seen before or since and is rightly regarded as a watershed moment. I don't see that as US arrogance or UK media hype, it just is. Which doesn't diminish the horror of Al Qaeda's other attacks or the suffering of other victims, obviously.

Clinton tried and failed
Bush tried and failed
Obama got the job done

The moral of this story is , if you want someone shot dead call in a black guy

:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Saw some pictures on Chinese tv today which are apparently Bin Laden with a big whole in his head.  Didn't think they had been released yet, anyone else seen anything?  They'll show anything on T.V. here, usually on the buses there are screens showing what happens when pedestrians get hit by buses, cars and trucks.

There's a whole load of fakes doing the rounds on the Internet, most likely they've got hold of some of them. Probably from someone's google mail account :)

Fakes, Chinese !.  Never!

First time I've known a Bin to be taken out on a Bank Holiday Monday.

Fair play to the US over Bin Laden I haven't seen a man brought to justice on a bank holiday like that since the Jews used Good Friday to nail that Jesus bloke.

Kate Middleton and Osama bin laden both have something in common.

They both had their back doors smashed in last weekend.

Ha ha. Had one from my stepson "Amazing what the Americans get up to to fill the time when the PlayStation Network's down"

They have tested Osama's DNA

27% Cocoa
60% Coconut
3% Sugar
10% Milk

apparently its because of the bounty on his head

Henry cooper and osamah bin laden arrive at the pearly gates and are asked why they should have entry to heaven. Osamah starts screaming at the top of his voice "I have been a good Muslim and killed thousands of infidels in the name of Muhammad. Muhammad is great. Muhammad shall never be defeated. Praise Allah"

Henry Cooper looks at Bin Laden, turns to the gatekeeper and says quietly "I should be allowed into heaven because I Put Muhammad on his arse long before he converted to Islam"