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Central defender is Wilson's 'priority'
          


  DANNY Wilson has identified two centre-backs in the transfer market, as Town’s boss bids to stabalise their leaky defence.

          

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[Dave]About fucking time![/Dave]

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In other words, we don't need one with the king playing along side Cuthbert.

If Wilson thinks we need one, we need one.

Both Scotty and LJF are good central defenders ability-wise, I just think we need someone in there with experience and tactical nous.

what is it with the LJF lovin. i just don't get it. He's not good enough. reminds me of Ifil.

something is going wrong at the back as the goals against tells us so.

Whats with all the LJF hate?

We all dream of a team of Jean Francoisssssssssssssssssss

This.

To be fair many of us on here have been saying the same thing since Greer left.  I understand Wilson wanted to see if Cuthbert and Jean-Francois could work together, and well done to him for realising early on that he needed to change things.

just cos he's had personal problems he is now god. fuck off.

people everyday have personal problems, some worse than others but it doesn't make them any better at playing football etc.

he's been a liability from day one and continues to be so.

I think the "love" has made him a better player to be honest and seems comfortable now. He is a lot better than he used to be and far better than Rose from what I have seen.

Yes that is right, because he has had personal problems I now think he is Colin Calderwood.

I appreciate that Lecs can be a bit of a liability but what you have to consider is the bloke is only young and inexperienced with league football.  I am sure that over time he will improve as I believe he has the skills which can be built upon to become a good centre half.  Both him and Cuthbert are young lads and have probably always played alongside a more senior centre half, like Greer so give them both time to develop.  Saying that I do think a centre half is required to play alongside them both.

I dont like him because he has had personal problems, I like him because although he may not be the best, he tries his bloody hardest and given time will be a decent footballer.  I suppose he was a liability at Southampton last season?

so you quote one game and that makes your argument stand. please!!!

whilst i agree he is young etc so is Morrison who i think is a better defender.
As i mentioned LJF reminds me of Ifil. at times he can produce some excellent performances but more often than not he is found out of position and his distribution/decision making is woeful

As Wilson has said, Cuthbert and JFL both have the technical ability, it's just the as a pairing they lack the organisation and tactical awareness that would make us much more solid at the back. I'm glad Wilson is looking to rectify the problem, and am still quite optimistic about our chances this season, especially after the turn around on Saturday.

Not at all, it is performances like the one he gave at Southampton which lead me to believe that he is capable of becoming a good defender.  Lecs was shocking at left-back in the first half at Charlton back in May, but when moved across into the middle he played much better and looked more comfortable.  At the end of the day he is a very young, inexperienced player so he is not going to play like Franz Beckenbauer every week, that comes with game time.

I have no doubt that Morrison is a good defender but the same thing applies to him.  There have been a few times in the past where he has made mistakes which led to goals but he is still learning so we have to give him time.

Wilson must see something in Lecs otherwise he wouldnt have signed him/picked him in the team in the first place.  He was willing to give him and Cuthbert a chance but now it is obvious that we need someone with experience at the back.  That is no reflection on either player (as DW has said), just that both perhaps lack that leadership quality.

i agree we are so far missing Greer or that type of player to hold the back line together and position them properly.

maybe this will help rose too??

I'd say Rose needs more help than JFL.

I get the impression Wilson doesn't rate Morrison otherwise I would give him a couple games to shuffle the pack.

an obvious problem area.glad to see wilson is addressing it

The back line lacks leadership. They are both good players, but not so good at organising a defence.

JFL, with some work, would be an immense holding midfielder but, in my opinion, he is not a lower half Championship CB, which is the calibre of player we should be looking at to get us there.

The way I see it is this - if we are going for it this season, and given the level of investment in bringing in players such as Caddis, Ferry and Prutton I'd say we are, then we probably can't afford not to have experience at the back.

LJF has started to win me round, in the first two matched he was my MOTM. And we know Cuthbert wass immense last season. But sometime you need that older, wiser head at the back to take command of things and let the younger ones concentrate on their own game.

I'm not sure where all of this leaves Morrison though. He's only 19 though and it feels like he's been here forever! I'm sure his chance will come.

I agree. On the face of it, it looks like he's not being given a chance. However, it's becoming evident that we do need an experienced head at the back, which will only push him further down the pecking order. If we get this new player in, I think another loan spell could do Sean the world of good, as long as he had the right perspective and attitude. Even if his chance at Swindon doesn't come until late NEXT season he'll only be 20/21!

No, you fuck off. Since he came he and made a few mistakes and looked a bit shoddy people have been getting on his back, how do you think that makes a player feel? They dont need the boo boys as soon as they join the club. I'm talking way before the earthquake in Haiti. LJF, Cult Hero.

forget how good,or potentially good the lads we have are,as it is completely irrelivant.we need a leader at the back NOW.what we have at the moment aint capable of doing this

ha ha ha you're a little cunt aren't you.

Cult hero.

now you're taking the piss

Don't bully the kids, they're softer nowadays.

This sums it up pretty well for me. When Greer left, it wasn't his footballing ability we were going to miss, but his leadership skills.

We have a young defence and they need an old head back there to organise them. Lucas can only do it to an extent.

PERSONALLY I WOULD GO FOR THIS FORMATION.....


                 LUCAS
     
       SC       NEW CB       LJF                                    3 CBS

PC/KA                                ROSE                           REALLY ATTACKING WB WHEN IN POSSESION FULLBACK WITHOUT

               SF/DP    JD                                             USUALL POSISTIONS

                     JPM
             CA           DOSSEVI

Exactly. A new CB isn't going to stop Rose from playing crap and causing a weakness on the left which the CB's have to cover and pulls the whole defence out of whack. Having O'Brien on the left doesn't help either.

New players aren't the only solution, I don't even think they're the best solution. A change of formation to have one or two holding midfielders would help to strengthen the defence, such as a 4-2-3-1 with Douglas and Prutton could do the trick.

We all know last season Scotty was immense but going over the 2 games i've seen this season of the 2 centrebacks LJF has been the better.

A few people who i know went on saturday reckon despite the soft clearance leading to the goal LJF was immense at the back again.

Rose may need a little more time to settle in but he does leave the the back far too exposed when he goes forward which means LJF has to keep coming across to cover him leave exposed at the back

LJF is quality. Diamond in the rough.

He bloody is. It even says so on the Official site, last paragraph of his profile:

http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/page/ProfilesDetail/0,,10341~36233,00.html

3 weeks too late.

Prehaps i am, get off his back though, and since you called me a cunt, im cracking this rude boy out,

You sir are a :cunty:

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Yes, you un-educated twat  ;)

IMO JFL has been our best CB so far. I don't understand how anyone can really slag him off at the moment bar the mistake he made at the weekend. These things happen though.

It's not about slagging off the defenders individually, it's about the unit. DW obviously thinks that, as a central defensive partnership, Scotty and LJF aren't up to it.

Maybe they will build up an understanding in time, but how long do we give them? If we're serious about another promotion push, the defence needs to be stronger collectively than it's showed so far.

I mostly agree with this, thing is you can give 2 center backs who know the rest of the squad time, or you can bring in 2 completely new faces and give them time? Or 1, what ever, a new face.

I kinda agree with this but maybe a more experienced pro would keep rose in check a little bit more than the current ones can but on the flipside someone with the amount of games under his belt like rose really should have more discipline than he has shown so far.

If Greer were here he'd be playing, not JFL.

JFL has been great, showed some real class, but our back four will face some nasty bruisers this season and we will need a CB with experience and steel (much like Greer) to get us out of this division.

Who reckons we'll get someone in who fits the bill, we'll all get carried away and then they'll be just as bad?

:)

What's the betting they're a thug of a CB and get sent off in their first game..!

What he said


and Crispy stop being such an annoying little cunt

part of me hopes so. our squad is far too nice and could do with a thug or 2.

Its a forum, im aloud to post my views, if you dont like them dont read my posts.

 :fishing:

FFS Chill

Im perfectly chilled out thanks, just telling it how it is?

For the older fans we really need a John Williams - Bournemouth dirca mid to late 80s. A fucking Neanderthal who physically intimidated centre forwards.

"Its a forum, im aloud to post my views, if you dont like them dont read my posts."

I don't dislike or like your posts but allowed is spelt "allowed"

I for one am quite happy with the pairing of Scotty and Lecs, individually they are good centre backs. It could be said that the whole team is yet to gel let alone the centre half pairing, I think we'll be fine (even in defence).

thats us told.

and Crispy. i've not slagged him off thank you. just clearly airing my opinion.

it's you, you little scroat who is bringing the big i am, my view is worth more than yours and being an annoying little cunt.

read what people write and then go away for 10 before posting cos clearly you don't engage your brain before replying.

fucking hell and to think some of you not-rights take the piss out of the chavfest that is thisis....

Im not bringing the big i am at all, think you are more so to be fair, "My view is worth more than yours" ... :hmmm: and little scroat? Im far from little. And you havent slagged him off, so what would you class saying he isnt good enough and saying "he's been a liability from day one and continues to be so." is then mr. magicroundabout?

And meth, nice job on correcting spellings, what a hero you are.

I think Danny recognised that the defence needed strengthening, and that's what he's going to try and do. Basic errors are costing us, and he knows that. Matt Taylor from Exeter would be a great signing, his contracts up next summer. Might cost a bit

But you've just done exactly what you've said there as well!

Anyway, back on topic. I'd consider dropping Cuthbert at the moment. Don't know why but he's made a few silly mistakes from what I've seen, guilty of ball watching on several occasions. Rose seems to be the weak link in the back line mind.

Well lets just see what happens before Saturday, the window has another couple of weeks to go. The trouble is lots of people are looking for a similar player, one presumably who doesn't get sent off two games in a row... How is Brighton these days...?

Where is the volume?

 The understanding is staggering, passion in the extreme, where is it StFC?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GtLxpMyh13g&feature=related

Brighton were looking for one so they went out and bought one.

We bloody had one.

Its like the striker issue of last season. Its been an issue for months so why haven't we sorted it out yet?

If the type and quality of player we are after was available on a free, then other clubs would have gone down this route.

Its likely we may have to spend more money that we bought in to find a replacement.

I think perhaps you meant to post this in the 'Where the hell were we?' thread?

i didn't expect you to bite as well Si

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Oh the 'I was fishing card'.

Fuck off, cunt.

now now children

so easy

 :fishing:

Cringe.

Well, Wilson is a man of his word. He said he'd see how it went and assess it. Now let's get that Taylor from Exeter in.

Rose seems to be the new hate figure at the club, people seem to have made there mind up.  Personally at Hartlepool I thought Rose had his best display for the club and was not at fault on either goal, he looked alot more solid and disciplined.

For those that say why don't we give our young centre halfs more time, the reason is because you can't afford to give a struggling defence time as it will cost you point after point.  If strikers are struggling and you have a good defence you will still get clean sheets and still grind out points, defence is the key position in a football team IMO.

It's not an attack on JFL to state that something is wrong with the defence, we have conceded 6 in 3 games, thats not good enough.  Its not rocket science to see that although both JFL and Cuthbert are good as individuals they do not work well as a partnership, there is no understanding, there is not enough chat and there heads drop too easily.

We need an experienced head there to talk them through a game, to pick them up when they are struggling, to cover them when they make mistakes and just someone to bring some stability and solidness to centre half.  The only debate to be had is who should be dropped JFL or Scotty and based on this season alone thats a lot harder decision that it was last season, largely due to JFL's solid start to the season and Scotty's shaky start to the season.

It worked well last time. :)

Nice title change!  :D

Totally agree!