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Title: England Women
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, September 7, 2009, 09:43:29
The Women's team, have done something the men's team have failed to do, and got to the final of the European Championships yesterday, by beating Holland 2-1.

This is a month after the Under 19's won their European Championship.

They will meet either Germany or Norway in the Final on Thursday.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: herthab on Monday, September 7, 2009, 10:04:47
Womens football is shit


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: trogladite on Monday, September 7, 2009, 10:05:45
Isn't the idea of women's sport, tight shorts and tops?  The result is immaterial


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Nemo on Monday, September 7, 2009, 10:09:11
Isn't the idea of women's sport, tight shorts and tops?  The result is immaterial

Nice one Sepp.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 7, 2009, 10:49:50
Isn't the idea of women's sport, tight shorts and tops?  The result is in the material


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Monday, September 7, 2009, 11:50:38
The Dutch striker who scored yesterday was smart. :D


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Batch on Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:13:12
Womens football as a sport is a bit like the special Olympics.

By that I mean I know they put in as much effort as possible, deserve all the credit, etc, etc. But I just can't get myself interested in it.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:35:47
Isn't the idea of women's sport, tight shorts and tops?  The result is immaterial

To be fair to him, I thought Sepp Blatter had a point. If they want women's football to take off they need to make the most of what they've got - which is fit birds, tits and arses. Turn some of them in to pin ups and suddenly you'll get a lot more blokes going. Turn some in to role models and you'll get more birds going as well. Some might call it sexist, I'd call it marketing.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:45:55
To be fair to him, I thought Sepp Blatter had a point. If they want women's football to take off they need to make the most of what they've got - which is fit birds, tits and arses. Turn some of them in to pin ups and suddenly you'll get a lot more blokes going. Turn some in to role models and you'll get more birds going as well. Some might call it sexist, I'd call it marketing.
You might well do, but would you call it football? By the same token, I assume you'd ban Peter Beardsley, Franck Riberry and Luke Chadwick from the male game. And no, I don't watch women's football, but it should stand or fall on its own merits as a sport, not some tarted up marketing exercise for knuckle-shufflers. More than enough people trying to turn football into a brand, thanks.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: ghanimah on Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:48:58
Womens football as a sport is a bit like the special Olympics.

By that I mean I know they put in as much effort as possible, deserve all the credit, etc, etc. But I just can't get myself interested in it.

I once went to a women's game - England vs Scotland - at Bramall Lane in the mid '90s and caught myself spontaneously saying patronising things like; 'oh that was quite a hard tackle' and 'they're actually quite good on the ball'. By half time I'd had enough and decided the pub was a better bet.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, September 7, 2009, 12:53:47
I see your point but I think its just down to how you do it. Plenty of male footballers have a high profile which helps to promote the game, especially to women, so why not do the same with women footballers? I'm not on about getting some of them to do page 3, just give them a higher profile.

It would be good if the FA and Premier League invested some serious money in women's football as well. Maybe a proper Women's Premier League with professional players and the games played before or after men's matches. I'm surprised clubs like Man Utd haven't done it already, with their massive fan base you'd have thought a good few of them would get behind a women's team.

Before anyone says it, by "get behind" I mean support wise, not doggy style.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: reeves4england on Monday, September 7, 2009, 13:38:23
I see your point but I think its just down to how you do it. Plenty of male footballers have a high profile which helps to promote the game, especially to women, so why not do the same with women footballers? I'm not on about getting some of them to do page 3, just give them a higher profile.

It would be good if the FA and Premier League invested some serious money in women's football as well. Maybe a proper Women's Premier League with professional players and the games played before or after men's matches. I'm surprised clubs like Man Utd haven't done it already, with their massive fan base you'd have thought a good few of them would get behind a women's team.

Before anyone says it, by "get behind" I mean support wise, not doggy style.
They have been on about starting a professional women's league but it's been put on hold. Interesting that you mention United - do they even have a decent women's team? All you hear about is teams like Arsenal, Fulham and Charlton


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Summerof69 on Monday, September 7, 2009, 13:41:16
I believe a Women's Premier League, due to be played in the summer months, is due to start in the next few years.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, September 7, 2009, 14:03:52
this thread is depressing.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Monday, September 7, 2009, 15:05:54
In the USA, women's football(sorry soccer :doh:) is massive.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: axs on Monday, September 7, 2009, 16:34:21
In the USA, women's football(sorry soccer :doh:) is massive.

I think networks there are obliged to show a large amount of it, therefore the sponsership is there.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: pauld on Monday, September 7, 2009, 17:03:11
I'm not on about getting some of them to do page 3, just give them a higher profile
Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. Maybe it was this that gave me the impression you wanted women footballers to promote themelves using their tits and arses rather than their sporting ability?
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they need to make the most of what they've got - which is fit birds, tits and arses. Turn some of them in to pin ups and suddenly you'll get a lot more blokes going
My apologies for misconstruing you


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: trogladite on Monday, September 7, 2009, 17:06:34
I believe a Women's Premier League, due to be played in the summer months, is due to start in the next few years.

I'll go along if there's quotas involved.
I'd like to see something along the lines of
40% bubble buts,
40% top heavy chests,
and throw in for comedic value
20% (relatively speaking) skillful players.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: pumbaa on Monday, September 7, 2009, 18:35:44
I think networks there are obliged to show a large amount of it, therefore the sponsership is there.

I never saw one game advertised in three years living there. Not saying you're wrong, but 'soccer' (i.e. MLS) is a poor 5th (at best) behind the big 4 in the US.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: axs on Monday, September 7, 2009, 18:40:59
I never saw one game advertised in three years living there. Not saying you're wrong, but 'soccer' (i.e. MLS) is a poor 5th (at best) behind the big 4 in the US.

I was in LA for 4 days and it was always on the bloody telly!


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: jonny72 on Monday, September 7, 2009, 18:54:25
Oh, I'm sorry, I misunderstood you. Maybe it was this that gave me the impression you wanted women footballers to promote themelves using their tits and arses rather than their sporting ability?

My apologies for misconstruing you

I never said that their sporting ability shouldn't come in to it, obviously it should. I'm just suggesting they pick some of the fittest players and use them to help promote the women's game, which could be done tastefully and without them getting their tits out. Though obviously if they want to get their tits out its up to them.

The NBA did the same thing some years ago. They picked a handful of players and turned them in to superstars to promote the sport as a whole and it worked - making the game a lot more popular.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, September 7, 2009, 20:51:11
this thread is depressing.

A shame that Norse Brunhildes couldn't beat the Teutonic Brunhildes....women's football should be enjoyed for what it is and not compared to men's.

The frauleins are a very decent outfit....I'd like to think we've a chance but fear a mullering.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: 4D on Monday, September 7, 2009, 20:53:31
I was in LA for 4 days and it was always on the bloody telly!

Didn't you leave the hotel?


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: axs on Monday, September 7, 2009, 22:01:39
Didn't you leave the hotel?

hostel, and yes, occasionally, but not that much as La was horrible and I was broke.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Arriba on Monday, September 7, 2009, 23:39:56
women goalkeepers are utter shite.they might as well have rush keepers


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: dell boy on Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 09:18:24
women goalkeepers are utter shite.they might as well have rush keepers

No worse than our two last season.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: reeves4england on Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 09:57:34
No worse than our two last season.
Haha!
Arriba does have a point though - they are generally pretty rubbish in comparison to their male counterparts


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 12:23:28
La was horrible

The only good things I found in LA were:

- Whale watching trip
- Universal studios.
- The tourist sights

Bad things:

- Drive everywhere
- Too spread out
- Pollution
- Gridlock
- Being taken to a gay bar by a black man.


Mind you, as training courses go it wasn't too bad :) Happy days.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, September 8, 2009, 18:35:43
Haha!
Arriba does have a point though - they are generally pretty rubbish in comparison to their male counterparts

But there's no point in comparing women to men...women generally are shorter, therefore have more difficulty with the high ball.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 17:12:22
anyone got the final on? great goal by kelly smith but losing 3-2


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: STFC4LIFE on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 17:13:23
Yeah, watching it now.
It was a good goal.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: stfctownenda on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 17:31:54
Might of gone a bit wrong now.....6-2


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: No Longer Posh Red on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 17:50:29
Might of gone a bit wrong now.....6-2

Yep, a real case of Men against Boys, if you know what I mean ;)


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Summerof69 on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 18:08:10
The scoreline flattered the Germans, with their superior fitness telling in the end.



Title: Re: England Women
Post by: herthab on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 19:16:02
The scoreline flattered the Germans, with their superior fitness telling in the end.



And the fact that they were better..............


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 19:26:38
And probably half-men, bred from the old East German steroid programme


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 19:34:06

i think they need to play with smaller goals, as everything on target goes in.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: michael on Thursday, September 10, 2009, 21:30:13
Did Kelly Smith really score a 45 yarder the other day?

That must have been some toe punt.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Bogus Dave on Friday, September 11, 2009, 06:45:17
I'm amazed her pretty little legs can kick it that far


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: The Artist Billy Paynter on Friday, September 11, 2009, 08:51:56
They are an embarrasment to England, Never come back. :D


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: tans on Friday, September 11, 2009, 08:59:13
they were shit


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: grubby on Friday, September 11, 2009, 09:43:37
A cardbord cut out in goal would have saved more. The goalkeeping is really poor.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: SwindonTartanArmy on Friday, September 11, 2009, 10:29:51
womens "football" is absolutely shocking.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: strooood on Friday, September 11, 2009, 10:48:17
Right-back Alex Scott and Kelly Smith are an item. That my friends is a fact.


Title: Re: England Women
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Friday, September 11, 2009, 10:49:21
Lezzers???