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So, thoughts, predictions, team line-ups?

Sadly I can't see much more than a draw for us, think we really need 3 points, especially as Carlisle are only a point above us.

Pleasing to hear Kennedy is getting a run-out at left back as well, hope he does well (i.e. no major fuck ups resulting in a goal conceeded, could ruin him a bit).

You bastard, I was waiting for midnight to start this but went for a piss, came back and you'd started it!

Anyway, you missed out the 'official', ha!

 :nerner:

Good post Reeves....Morrison had a very shaky start,look at him now,get on the beast to score first!
I fancy us for a good result tomorow,they got turned over at home by Crewe midweek..4-1 Town.

could be a toughie..

Watch your back Ian. The one highlight I have in the week is starting the matchday thread and you took it away from me. I'm going to abandon you in Crewe next week.

We'll win this quite comfortably.

Morning..

tea. tea. tea.
pint. pint. pint.
goal. goal. goal.
pint. pint. pint.
curry. curry. curry.
pint. pint. pint.
fall over.

That's the plan for today.

Carlisle's last four away games:
Played 4
Won 0
Drawn 0
Lost 4
Scored 0
Conceded 10

Swindon unbeaten in their last four home games scoring 8.

At odds of 7/5 on the betting coupon it looks the bet of the day.

.... always been taught, never bet on what looks a good thing, they often lose.

I'm not going, so I expect a decent win. Everyone will rave about how brilliant it was and Paul D will probably be writing up the contract for Byrne to sign as a manager. Then I'll go to the next game and it'll be shit.

Well stay away for good then.

This doesn't happen every time I don't go. I'm just expecting it as it'll be the first home match (and probably last) that I miss this season.

If we win and play brilliantly and then lose against Yeovil because you turn up, I'm going to stab you.

You want to stop fannying about "doing stuff" on a friday night then and stay in besides your laptop, ready to make the thread. It's that kind of dedication that gets you the prestige of starting one of these threads.

I don't think you should be allowed to start matchday threads unless you aren't going to sleep again before the game.

I'll also let you into a secret - the moon influences hair growth.

I think we'll hammer them. I've just watched the highlights of the Walsall game (all 5 minutes of them!) and I can't understand how we got beat, we were all over them. Another performance like that today and Carlisle won't stand a chance.

We're setting ourselves up for a heavy fall here.

The copious amounts of alcohol I intend on drinking will soften the blow.

ditto - when you heading to the pub?

Getting there for about 12ish.

A crappy 2-1 would do me.......too close to the trap door for comfort at the mo!

I see a Comfortable 2-0 win today for us.

Part of me wants to be confident, so I'll say a 2-1 win.

There is also a part of me saying "don't be stupid, this is Swindon..." but I'll happily ignore that for now!

No masterbation????

3-2 to town!  Just leaving now and looking forward to freezing my bollocks off again for the 3rd time in 2 weeks.

Does anybody else have a really really crap (Quiet) feed from Premium tv?

Team: P Smith, J Smith, Aljofree, Ifil, Kennedy, JPM, Pook, Peacock, Macca, Cox, Paynter
Subs: Brez, Amankwaaaaaah, Marshall, Easton, Sturrock

no real surprises in the team selection given that they already announce Ifil, Macca and Kennedy would be playing. The bench is interesting though. Looks like Byrne is really willing to go all out for the win

Nah mate mine is louder and clearer than its been this season.

10 mins to go and i've got a report that the ground is still virtually empty!

b4 i get any griefmy answer is at the end of the last quote (previous post) i dont know how i manage to fuck it up. Oh i do, im crap on computers :)

Listening on the beeb now, hopefully they won't turn it off

does anyone have a world account i can borrow for today? pm me please

im in bournmouth so wont get any reception on my phone radio

Sent Chubbs

Its on bbc radio swindon on the internet and they havent cut it.

They cut mine.

Coventry 1-0 Nottm Forest: Ward (2)

I'm still on. maybe there are protestors in your local bbc station!

Is it just me that finds this annoying? If i want other teams scores i'll look.

I only fin dit annoying if it's totally irrelevant. I presume Crozzer posted it due to the Calderwood rumours, which is fair enough

The significance was Colin Calderwood, could be his last game as manager for Forest.

Oh ok, i thought it was random. Apologies if not.

cheers BR

Nay problemo

gary speeeeeeed

I'm guessing bugger all is happening?

You aren't wrong, although Macca's just had a good run and cross. No shots on target by either yet.

You'd be guessing right BO. I'm off to get the horse in. We'll be 2-0 up by the time I get back. NOT A FACT.

Cox, close.

I would expect us to be at least 1 up by now

Macca close

Why?!

We seemed to have made a fair few more chances than they have so we should be winning IMO.

Quite.

Oooh

We just scored BTW

bit slow on here tonight

Own goal seemingly accoriding to sky.

0-0 according to the BBC website....

stupid Beeb

OG on there now aswell. Now I can feel happy!

Close.

It sounds as though Kennedy is having a good debut.

gary speed

Aljofree needs a talking to, giving free kicks away in dangerous areas.

 :(

FFS unbelievable!!

Well that was unexpected.

When Peter Shilton punched the ball it used to go to the half way line, who is coaching this crap.

peter shilton for goalkeeping coach!

You don't punch it out to the middle either.  The old geezer who cleans out the toilets at the CG knows that.  Give him the job.

MOM

Wasn't smiths fault at all. Still went through 7 players. Shit game. New manager please or crewe will close the gap next week

The other Smith gave away a cheap free kick.  Yes, new manager needed.

The positives, Jeril back, and Kennedy.

Cheap free kick that was never a free kick

Time for a new manager me thinks

Carlisle have been in awful form recently and yet we can only pick up 1 point at home against them.

I'd say the next 5 games could make or break our season.  4 of the games are against teams in a similar position to us in the league.

New manager will breathe new confidence into players which hopefully should push us up the league

Oh. New manager needs to be put in place asap Mr Fitton, and DB is not the answer. Stats don't lie.

Astonished that only 1 Carlisle player got booked.

What went on when Malpas was in charge?

didn't go today - obviously - but fitton needs to act quick. it's dragged on too long.

How the hell did Carlisle get anything out of that?

2 points dropped in a game that we dominated and made all of the chances. The referee was awful and did not have a clue.

Kavanagh still looks quality at 35 but nobody else stood out for me from Carlisle. We should have won the game by 2 or 3 clear goals.  Good to see Jerel back, Aljofree did well in the air, Kennedy played well but not MOTM IMO.  Peackock gets MOTM for pure hard word and putting in some important challenges.

Permanent Manager needed quick smart!  Before this really does become a relegation scrap.

Best header of the day was mine from the front row of the DRS stand. I even got a cheer and a ripple from the crowd!  ;D

Possible AF interview coming up.

I'm pissed  ;D

Ref was horrendous and we conceded late. I feel like I write the same things every week.

Cannot believe we threw it away again.

Carlisle should have had at LEAST 1 player sent off and not normally one to moan but my god that referee was absolutely dreadful.

Glad to see Jerel back and Kennedy looked good.  Very disappointed with Paynter as didnt seem too bothered today.  

Watching Swindon = Groundhog Day

Fuck sake. That was a disgraceful refereeing performance. That foul on Cox was a disgrace. Dirty northern bastards. Ref lost us the win today, absolute joke. I've had enough of the shite standard of refereeing in this division.

Watching Swindon Town is gunna kill me one day. GRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR!

What a fucking fuck up!

How Carlisle got a point I dont know, so so un deserved. The created nothing and didnt look like scoring at all.

Our back line did well Smith, Ifil, Aljofree and Kennedy and had everything under control. The late change is the back line was bad timing certainly but not the un needed change the fans on the text were raving about. If a player goes down and has the physio come to straight his leg, then hobbles for a bit then gets subbed its NOT Byrne needlessly changing the defence is it dickhead?

Midfield did ok, McNamee was generally great apart from his end product, Peacock was good thought Pook was poor. JPM OK. Cox alot of work but not his best game, similiar to Paynter.

Phil Smith, I dunno I thought he did alright but he's getting the blame for the goal, he came over loads of players and punched the ball a good 18 yards. Is that enough as the keeper? I dont think he was ever going to catch that one (he caught all the others though) part of me thinks maybe Smith should have punched it further but part of me thinks, well who was supposed to be marking matey boy on the edge of the box? again all the text messages blaming Smith.

Carlisle were truely awful and a bunch of dirty cheating cunts. I cant believe some of the stuff that got waved away. The flying challenge on McNamee and one where they went straight through Cox - not even free kicks!!! yet Peacock makes one tackle and is booked. We had a man down and they played on, injured another man before they kicked it out. Fuck knows why we bothered giving it back

The free kick that lead to their goal was piss poor. Their player has knocked it over Jack Smiths head and run into him, where the fuck is Smith supposed to go? He wasnt like he just stood there either, he had actually turned to run towards the ball!

We were fucking robbed today but I thought we did enough against a piss poor side, few positives.

Fitton best get the next appointment right.

shit game.our passing was dire(although mcgoverns deliverys were good).kavannah showed up our wank centre mids.cox is to good for us.ifil is shit with the ball.the robinettes should all be shot. the water aint hot enough for the coffee in the arkells.the ref got stuff wrong, but not as much as some of our blinkered crowd thought.kennedy was ok but nothing more.

3 points were probably just about deserved, so 2 points lost. Pook and paynter were Wank. Peacock man of the match. Ref lost control for the last 10. Berniman has a good header.

I liked the fact the ref didnt give a free kick every time someone went down, or every time two players went up for a header. He let alot flow, his use of the cards were fucking shocking though.

Peacock one bad tackle, booked. Their right back about 3 or 4 did he get booked. Although nothing in it players have been shown red for what Kavanah did to Phil Smith! The tackle on Cox from behind was terrible, play on and Cox goes down outside the box, yellow card. Their guy does a blatant swan dive in the box and the refs so foul but doesnt book him for diving?

A shit game between 2 poor teams. I thought a draw was a fair result. We were poor bar a few chances we created when we actually looked bothered. They were probably slightly worse than us but that's only because they created next to nothing but we didn't do enough to win it in my eyes.

Positives are Jerel who I thought had a good game and you can see we missed him, Kennedy who didn't look out of place in his first start, Peacock who looked up for it and got forward as well as making some good passes and JPM who has actually started making some tackles as well as actually putting some half decent balls in the box. No one else really stood out. Cox and Macca played OK but were not at their best. Pook and Paynter were poor.

The ref was awful. How did only 1 Carlisle player get booked? Should have had 4 or 5 bookings at least and maybe a sending off for that bad challenge on Macca. The ref didn't have a clue.

I knew we would concede a shit goal. We always do so I wasn't surprised to see it go in. Another draw for Byrne. We need a new boss ASAP now otherwise we'll find ourselves sucked in before too long.

Pook was shocking. Easton should of came on for the latter stages. Pook was non-existent in the midfield, sloppy passing, put us under pressure.
Kennedy though, was fantastic.

What was the final score, being stuck out here in China I have no idea

1-1. Swedish red in China? Awesome.

Yes I guess I should cnange my log in as this is the last place in the world with a car industry

sorry about the spelling mistake it is 02.30 here and I fear I have had too much Tiger beer. Not like the wonderfull stuff they sell in the County!!!

Why thank you Batch! Better than Pook anyway!

peacock was barely better than pook.both were ropey.
peacock is so overated by alot of our fans

The first half was the worst I've seen in terms of quality in a long time. Pook was rubbish, played like the old Pook.

Other than that I can't argue anything thats been said so far. Ref was infuriating, but there you go. New manager in asap methinks.

I wish Bill Murray was our manager.

peacock was fucking brilliant today i thought, pook was poor as was paynter

Disagree with DRS it was Smith's fault, poor punch (downwards, towards the central edge of the area), which meant he was poorly positioned for the weak strike towards goal, he was in no mans land.

Poor performance against a very poor team.  The fact we didn't win (again) is not good enough.  We need a new man in charge asap.  granville should be shown the door immediately as he is a waste of resource.

Fuckin annoyed about the performance and result.  Pook was shit, Ifil wasn't great but I expected him to be a little rusty.  Kennedy was good enough, but don't think he deserved MOM.  Oh and Paynter needs to start playin like a man not a fuckin little girl.

I thought it was the best I've seen from them for a few games, they had all the chances and should of won. At least they managed to pass the ball to each other occasionally. Why they don't get the ball out to McNamee more is beyond me, he created half a dozen chances and would create more if they gave him the ball.

Ifil was poor for me, can't remember seeing a decent performance from him all season. Peacock was man of the match for me, if only everyone worked as hard as he does. Not sure I'd blame Smith for the goal, the punch wasn't that bad - the problem was half the team allowing a weak shot to roll past them in to the goal.

The biggest problem is them once again conceding a late goal.

Peacock had a decent game. His ball through for mcnamee in the first half was orgasmic. Mcnamee too had his best game in a while.

Aljofree would probably have got my motm, though kennedy did do tres bien. pook was wank. Flappy mcflap-flap in goal is still a concern, ifil had an ok game, we played shitty hoofball for long periods.  The ref was a penis.

And it was cold. Very fucking cold.

Also, after getting into the ground about 25 minutes early for the first time in about 5 years I have to say the robinettes are the most embarrasing thing I have ever seen. This is supposed to be a professional sport for fuck sake, not a kiddies school play.

Also, is it a co-incidence that since we've bought back the Robinettes we've been poor at home, no it isnt get rid of the fucking things!!

Not sure if I heard it correctly, but I'm pretty certain at one game the announcer said if you wanted any of their phone numbers to have a chat with Simon Cox. I hope I misheard or they are a lot older than they look.

that was first game of the season, and no u didnt mishear that!

Also, whilst im on a bitch and rant sort the PA system out

mumble mumble mumble put your hands together for mumble mumble echo mumble

[manc accent]mumble, echo blackburn over there mumble mumble echo[/manc accent]

Oh right it was Steve Finney!

That wasn't a manc accent was it?

just a thought why not,
get a manager,
sack the goalkeeping coach,
play the best 11 for a change,
get fans back in the town end,
pay pook off,
send in a compilation of smiths f--k-ups to you,ve been framed,should make a bit of cash,
send the team back out 5 mins earlier after half time,
all in all i,m stressed out and stfc aren,t making it any better.
i,ve seen 3 wins all season     shocking :doh:

blah, something northern...

Thought it sounded geordie. The PA system isn't that bad surely!

Were they playing in quicksand today?...slow,crap match and a big step backwards...half that team needs to go....Smith is so nervous in goal,no ambition....it was terrible.

Got to say that was disappointing today, Carlisle were pretty poor - but in a way they deserved their point.  They continued to go forward but never really created a good chance, whilst we hit the woodwork twice.  The referee was a disgrace and completely biased against us.  There appear to be no tactics, just play hoofball from the back, I am sure some of those clearances from Ifil and Hasney had snow on them when they finally descended.  Thought those two did well though, Jerel was a bit rusty at times but that is only to be expected. We were a bit overrun in midfield, Macca is a delight to watch going forward, but adds no steel at all, Pook had a very poor game and just left Peacock and JP trying to play against their four.  Thought those two did ok, the new lad did well at full back but was never man of the match - thought that should have gone to Jack Smith or JP.  Cox tried hard but at times Paynter loooked disinterested.  Haven't mentioned the goalie, that ball should have been punched beyond the box not to the edge of it and there were other times where he should have taken control of the situation but didn't.  All in all that was two points that got away against a team that will certainly be in the relegation scrap at the end of the season.  If we don't get this next appointment right - and soon - we will certainly be in there with them.

Well that was definitely two points loss, Carlisle were awful.
What can you say about the ref, as pointed out earlier as soon as a Swindon player made a foul booked, Carlisle player not even spoken too.
Poor game all the same.
Why or why do we not go and finish sides off, we defend so deep, at times we played eight across the back.

My opinion for what it is worth:
We have a goalkeeping problem without a doubt, poor punch.
The back four though I thought looked pretty solid.
Midfield, what fucking midfield.
I thought Cox was brilliant, his work rate is better than any other in the side, and his turn when his shot hit the bar was way above 1st Division standard.
I've been a slater of Peacock in recent weeks but thought he performed well defensively, Pook was dire.
If we dont get forward momentum in these sort of games we will go down, so Bryne stop your negative thoughts and instead of trying to defend a one goal lead go out and win the fucking game.

Just a thought, but maybe if we didn't sit back so much and invite so much pressure for the last 10-15 minutes, maybe Phil Smith would be less likely to make that "error". Notice he caught every cross bar that one today? I dunno, we definitely lack the ability to kill a team off - Walsall showed us how last week.

One thing this thread has made me realise today is that everybody sees every match in a totally different way.  Probably depending on where they sit in the ground and whether they have ever played or been involved in the game before, because some of the things that are being said are the complete opposite of what I saw today.

There are a lot of people too that talk a lot of sense but there are also a lot of people that talk out of their anal passages on here.  I know that is part of the crack of being involved with a forum but anyone would think half the people on here are expecting to go out and watch AC Milan FFS!  The critisism of some of the things I saw today are unbelievable, like nobody expects our team to make a mistake?  A reality check is needed for quite a few on here I think, we are in league 1 so should expect league 1 quality I'm afraid!

Having said that, Pook was shite today!  ;D

Great to see Mr M Pook esq is back to normal now then 8)

Peacock developed a happy knack of being in the right place a couple of times when running back. I thought Paynter showed some good lay offs and that Cox wasn't as impressive as normal (overhead kick excepted)

Kennedy was ok but Aljofree was my MOM. Pook's performances starting to slip. Ifil rusty, one mistake by P.Smith.

McGovern and J.Smith ok, McNamee a curate's egg.

I can't see what we'd do without Paynter as a target - obviously not the most talented but offers for most things. Why do we take so long to take a throw-in  (usually waiting unitl Paynter is within range)

i thought carlisle passed and moved well first half.far better than we did

Spot on Berniman. And to add to the consensus, that ref needs fucking shooting. Totally lost control of the game, both sides are very lucky no-one was seriously hurt because although Carlisle were far more to blame and certainly started the two-footed kung fu kicks, Jerel had a couple of "meaty" challenges late on (don't blame him, he's watching team-mates going down like flies under bad challenges and thinks "Well, fuck it I'll get stuck in as well"), that could all too easily have escalated badly and led to someone getting a serious injury. Bates shouldn't be put in charge of a parks game

I think we're lucky to have two half decent keepers (its something not many 1st Division teams have) but neither of them have played well this season. I can't help but blame the manager, there is a lack of confidence and a fear of being dropped all the time which together help to cause the mistakes. I reckon the same applies to a number of other players as well.

All of which is the sort of thing a decent manager should be able to sort out quickly and performances should improve. I've been to all the games this season, whilst I only went to the odd game before this season I reckon the team are the best I've seen in a while - or at least have the potential to be the best.

Yes the referee was a twat but he wasn't at fault for the Carlisle goal, our crap team is to blame for that.
Carlisle were awful, so where does that leave us?
Poor old Pooky is over his purple patch, did he once pass to a red shirt?
Come on Fitton make a decision, preferably starting with at least demoting that clown Byrne.

The goal came from a freekick that wasn't a freekick.  Agree about him being a twat though!

As ronnie has said, goal from a free kick that never was. Carlisle should have been down to about 8 men by that time. And our "crap team" created plenty of chances in the first half albeit without really getting into a consistent rhythm and dominated the second half. The only answer Carlisle had was to start chopping people down. Which the ref allowed them to do.

The lino gave the free kick

the Lino knew my views about his performance today

Well heres my ten penneth........
Once again we come up against a team who are there for the taking.
An ugly win looked on the cards but the fragile defence and keeper imploded again..
Carlisle had the spine of a good side and knocked the ball around quickly - far quicker than us and we were often chasing shadows in the first half and rode our luck when Carlisle should of scored.
So we rode our luck and started to get into the game.
Grabbed a well worked goal....after an excellent cross into the box and then faded , sat back and began to panic and of course conceded a late goal from a set piece, what a fucking shock!?
Byrnes didnt help by putting on 'Mr Hexigon boots/what am i doing?' Amankwah for MOM Kennedy,what sort of dickhead substitution was that??
Smith was reasonably ok throughout but again fucked up when the crunch came.
Ifil was solid and has the ability to recover from the odd fuck up with speed and strength.
Arjofree was ok.
I thought Smith did ok.
Kennedy did really well and dragged off for it.
Peacock did more defensive work today and broke up alot of play.
Pook was back to his old 'give the ball away as often as possible' self.
JP was solid enough.
McNamee has to learn that in Div 1 you will not get the ball played 3mm off your toe every pass and sometimes you may have to fight for pocession....saying that, when he did get hold of the ball he did get going and the cross for the goal was superb.
Paynters work sometimes goes unnoticed he won alot of aerial balls today and held the ball up well but sometimes his passes seemed a mystery to himself.
Cox was good as usual but did deserve his booking for his stupid dive....sometimes its better to get stuck in and try and stay on your feet. Also unlucy not to notch today.
Ref was dogshit....poor Peacock was booked for his first bad challenge after McNamee was cut in half three times before that and Kavanagh (who pissed all over our midfield and seemed to have acres of space) should of had a yellow for the late challenge on Smith.
So....i walk away from the CG feeling like we have lost...again.
Simple equation :Draws and defeats = relegation.
A few weeks back the new managers brief would be to improve morale, tighten up the defence and push us up the table....now i fear the brief is avoid relegation...
That dicking of Tranmere seems a long time ago..........
 :cry:

kennedy was injured wasnt he

He would have to have lost his legs to allow Amankwah on!

The defence played well today to be fair, they certainly didn't "implode" and nor did Smith. For the goal, JPM (not a defender) lost his man, although Smith should have done better with the initial effort.
Probably one of someone who was watching the game more closely than you obviously were - Kennedy had cramp, he couldn't play on. And given the ref seemed determined to allow anything short of manslaughter, I was quite relieved to see him come off.
Make your mind up - he'd imploded at the start of the post!

Fair enough, except as I say, Kennedy had cramp, couldn't carry on.
Except for being at least as much at fault for the goal as Smith.
I think you're being harsh on dogshit, tbh

Apart from the Ref being Dogshit which I totally agree with , your post sums up my last post perfectly!

Congrats!

Spot on Digby's Dad!

I was right with you there Fred!

Fact is MacNamee is a matchwinner-one of only 2 in the squad.Yeah,he could work a bit harder on the defensive side but he does what he's in the side for brilliantly.However today we seemed to underuse him.Several occasions when were going forward he was in space and screaming for it but it never came.I would look to give him the ball every time yet some of our players dont seem to have confidence in him.Fuck me,there was one occasion when he beat 3 defenders in about a square foot,just before he nearly got sliced in two.I think he's a jewel.I think we have got to look at changing our system with regards midfield-I'd like to see a midfield trio of Easton Timlin holding  and Peacock a bit further up just behind Cox,keep the twop wide players and play Coxy up top on his own.We have got to start bossing the middle of the park.I thought defence today looked sounder than it has for weeks

A defence in a football team has to concentrate for 90 mins plus...

Not 85 and then panic, lunge at everything and give away free kicks.....say what you like .....we let in goals and alot recently in the last 5 minutes....thats implosion in my book.

Oh,and talking of the ref what was that whistle all about after JP had taken that free-kick in the first half?What a twat!How did Thirlwell not get booked for diving in the area?Their right back commityed 3 bookable fouls in the first 20 minutes-no card and a licence to kick lumps out of Macca for the rest of the game.I havent been that incensed by a ref since Mr Reynolds in 1970 v Blackpool!

In these hard financial times, why not contact the Football League and F.A., and tell them that these crap refs. are driving down gates by pissing off the fans.  You don't pay good money to watch amateur hour and that includes the officials.

Just looked back.

For the first time a TEF poster has yanked my chain....

I played a bit and won a few medals - coached and managed and won a few more....junior football but never the less i put the boots on and played from 15 to 35...broke my leg, wrist and jaw and didnt regret a thing.
While i wasnt playing i went following (home and away)the Town (1979+)and have managed to cover over 60 odd grounds and have seen Swindon play in every division....ive seen um play shit and i have seen them piss all over teams and like today ive seen them indifferent.
Also been to see England home and away and several European matches when i cadged the tickets through business.
Now this of course doesnt make me an expert and the nature of a forum is to agree and disagree (please see pauld posts) but....i do know shit from pudding......

It didnt matter where you were sat to watch todays game.

The defence panic and the keeper 'slapped' the ball and fucked up - end of.

that could of been seen from Stratton Bank, Arkells, Don Rog, Town End or outer fucking space!!!!!!!!!

We are also one point of relegation or am i talking out of my ass on that as well???? ???

JP took the freekick before the ref had blown to recommence play. The ref wasn't even looking in his direction - he was looking at some pushing and shoving in the box. He blew the whistle to signal play recommencing while the ball was in the air.

He should probably have had the kick retaken, & possibly booked J-P.

Ref was a shocker.....Soccer am could easily use the clips for the KungFu section.

I think I saw a different game to most on here. Both teams on that showing are relegation fodder. Both teams were absolute snit. They were both there for the taking and if we get relegated, which is a distinct possibility, then it will be games like this that do it.
Unlike most others, I thuoght our defence was bollox, more so in the 1st half where we were lucky a few times. Jerel was Jerel, great and shit in equal measure. Aljofree again concentrated on his own game and made no effort to form a cohesiv e defensive unit and gave no encouragement to Kennedy. Saying that he played OK.
The midfiled was gash as a unit. Peacock was MOM for me. MacNamee did some skills that had me off my seat. It was good to see him involved.
Cox and Paynter were OK.
The goalkeeper debate is getting silly and increasingly i feel the only solution is to be shot of both. Smith played OK but still fucked up on the goal - a weak punch into a dangerous area. That said, nobody tried to get to the man and nobody got their body in the way and that ball travelled into the net. But this is groundhog day.
The referee was a cunt but didn't cost us the game. Their no 4 should have had a straight red for his attempt to break MacNamee's leg. Thirwell should actually have got two yellows for two dives, one after the other.
Basically, we were dogshit in a dogshit of a game. We are really in trouble and whoever the new manager is will earn their money. When you consider the defence do not opwerate as a cohesive unit - the midfield neither cover the back 4 or support the front 2 then we're in the shit. If Cox goes, as it stands we're fucked.

I do agree but can you confirm to Beriman where you watched this game from........you may have your angles wrong!

all this bollocks about the referee is exactly that bollocks..........ok he was rubbish but he didn't cost us anything........................ultimately it was our fault giving away too many cheap free kicks. Ifil could of easily got sent off for his 2 footed challenge on the edge of the box (although yes he won the ball in that mad 5 minutes). Ultimately again today proved that Byrne isn't up to the job and the fact that last week he told Fitton and Watkins that we had our best performance of the season against Walsall made me laugh, just glad Spearman was there. I admire your loyalty Pauld but we despirately need a new fresh manager.... I'm just fed up and frustrated at the moment!

I didn't think we were as shit today as some are claiming, but football is subjective so everyone is entitled to their shout.

Someone suggested getting shot of Smith and Brez on account of them not being good enough. A very good point, which, I think also applies to the likes of Aljofree, Pook, Paynter, Amankwa and JPM for a start. The fuckers are just not good enough. They may have been acceptable under the last board and for the likes of Malpas, but if Fitton is going to ring the changes as we all hope he will, he needs to ship out players like this - along with our shit management and back room team. It's no coincidence that Sturrock, though I hated the attitude of the fat sweaty cunt when he was here, brought in his own management team and fucked off the dross players rapidly when he arrived, seeing our performances and results rise at the same time. Conversly, results and performances have dipped significantly since that management setup departed to Plymuff.

Brez and Smith have been shit for too long. Both had purple patches a season or two ago, but they are consistently shit now, despite having a dedicated goalkeeping coach at the club in Granville. It may be that there is a perception of having too much competition for the GK shirt and that is making them both feel nervous. Well, apart from the obvious observation that it is for our Manager / caretaker manager to iron out phsycological shit like that, try being on the Honda fucking hit list 3 weeks before Christmas with 3 kids to feed! Fuck, the excuses can only go so far. Fact is, we're consistently shipping goals due to dodgy keeping decisions, ergo, our keepers are consistently shit. Ship both cunts out.

Aljofree puts in the odd decent performance - today included, but the cunt is clearly playing for himself. I didn't see him encourage or talk to Kennedy once today, which is fucking awful for a seasoned pro. His back chat to the fans this season might have stopped, but he seems to be taking his wages, putting in decent enough shifts to justify his pay check, but doesn't give a fuck about his team mates or the fact that the department that he heads-up (our defence) is consistently shipping sloppy goals. Another one to fuck off asap.

Pook is now comfortably back to his old self.

Paynter. Same as Aljofree. The odd decent game and grabbed goal, but he's a moody fucker and is not fast enough or mobile enough. Never seems likely to become a genuine strike partner for anyone as he also seems to play for himself. Wouldn't surprise me if he's a 'billy no mates' at the club. Seems to have fuck all passion anyway.

Amankwah and JPM. Nowhere near good enough or consistent enough.

Also, Cox does way too much work for a centre forward. A decent manager with a bit of nous would reign him in for doing too much running in the wrong places. I love his work rate - deffo not having a bitch at him - but he doesn't need to compensate for a shit midfield by doing all their running for them as it leaves us short up front, which is where he should be, adding goals to his brilliant tally so far this season.

It's shit that Corr is crocked yet again as him and Cox could could be an awesome partnership in this division if only we could give them decent service.

Fitton needs to appoint someone who'll see through all the shit, cut out the dross, bring in management bods who know what they want and how to achieve it.  Holloway would be my choice now as he knows his own mind, is local, has all the the experience and track record under his belt already. Not sure Andy Fitton has the balls to appoint someone like that who'll maybe challenge and prod away at his ego on a regular basis.

Of course everyone is entitled to their own opinion. Yours is just massively wrong, thats all.

I bow to your considered and well reasoned counter argument, you cunt.

tbf deltaincline makes some decent points

Loyalty schmoyalty. The counter to that is that you're so desperate to blame Byrne for everything you're even prepared to excuse that Psycho Bates. Sorry to hear you're so frustrated tho Glos, the internet provides a wealth of opportunities for dealing with that condition :)

Fuck sake, our striking partnership is one area where things are going right. If it wasn't for those two, we'd be bottom of the table. Yet they're getting slagged off!

I couldn't give a shit if Barry Corr was the best player in the world. He's only been able to play 3 minutes of football because he's constantly injured. It's a shame, but it's players like that we need to get rid of first and also the players who can't get in the team (Blair Sturrock etc). That probably sounds harsh, but it's more logical.

Unbelievable.

Aljofree is our best center back, up untill yesterday pook has been playing really well, paynter  does so much donkey work that goes unnoticed and an on song mcgovern has the talent to be one of the best right mids in the division. People who cannot wait to get on their backs do nothing to help the situation.


Why did you hate the 'fat sweaty cunt', who is one of, if not the best manager outside the top flight? I'd say we miss his motivational skills more than anything since he left. He also brought in aljofree, paynter and mcgovern, three players you say you want to leave! make your mind up.

Why both? Brez kept the only clean sheet of the season for us, and is a better keeper than smith at his best, no two ways about it. Im fairly sure most of the goals we've conceded are down to a shite defence too, so dont be too hasty to immediatley stick the shit on the keepers.


hahahahahahah. Whearas every other single footballer on the planet has everyone else's interests first except their own. Stop living in fantasy land.


I saw him talk to kennedy and ifil quite a bit yesterday, but dont let the facts get in the way of a good old stereotypical moan eh?

After one bad game? Jesus, the lad cannot win. Why are there no similar comments for other players that played poor yesterday i.e. jack smith. Oh thats right, he's not a scapegoat.


Worst. Paragraph. Ever. Not fast enough or mobile enough? The mans a brick shit-house, the closest we've got too one. Never seems likely to become a genuine strike partner? Have you seen the cox-paynter partnership at any time this season. Plays for himself? Ho Ho Ho. Look back over all of our goals this season, and Paynter will have played a significant part in at least half of them. He does so uch hard work that goes unnoticed, look out for him next time eh? Instead of immediatley insisting he's shite.

Amankwaah granted. Though he's little worse than jack smith imho. JPM i disagree. He lacks consisteny, but definatly has the skill. Under malpas he was cack, but in the last few games he's shown why he's so highely rated.


Paynter and cox is more than adequate, as you can tell by the goal tally between them. Get your head out your jacksy.

Fair play dave, that's a really good well-argued point by point demolition of the hairdresser. Paynter and Pook were both poor yesterday but to write them off on the back of one bad game against a background of week's of playing well is just daft.

Good points Dave, although I felt that Jack Smith had a decent game yesterday.  We lost possession too quickly yesterday, caused by a lot of hoof-ball from the back, unfortunately with Macca on the left we are only a three-man midfield at best, and when one of them has a serious off day (Pook) we are always going to be under pressure.  Having stated that, I feel this was the first bad game Pook has had since his return and our only real threat came down the left through Macca.

Some good points dave which make your comments on mcgovern being good a bit boggling. All opinions though

Thing is with mcgovern he can be good. We saw that when he first arrived and against peterbrough. He showed some good touches yesterday. I think he's very much a confidence player though, and stuck out on the wing when a teams predominatly hoofing it down the middle will do nothing for his confidence.

Just looked at the match facts, we had 46% possession against their 54% (I thought they actually had much more of the ball than we did) and both sides only registered two shots on target!  And we were the home side!!  FFS the new manager must instill a bit more an attacking theme for us to survive.  Bit of a balancing act to follow!

But we dominated ronnie have you not read the thread.

It was a fucking dire game. If it wasn't for the ref being so shite I would've had nothing to shout about.

Sorry Dean, must have misplaced my rose tinted glasses!

Agreed, no passion no tactics fuckall. Midfield is so narrow its unbelievable. Easton must be shagging someones wife as he is head and shoulders above what we have got. Byrne was quoted as saying he could not ask for more and last week walsall he said its the best we played all year. Is he on crack

I have heard that Easton is on Aljofree's missus crack.

Kennedy came off because he was suffering from cramp.

As he went off callum said' i got cramp dean i will meet you in the bully'

Yeah. Happens every week. I see it all the time on MOTD, the Champions league etc.. cramp is always happening..

It does to 17 yr olds in a first league match you fucking moron

So do Barry Corr's injuries.

Well that's what Byrne said and Kennedy was showing signs of cramp as well.

Obviously you're right though.

No he isn't

Irony Dean. Irony.

Oh an two more goals and Paynter would be in the League One top scorers list. Obviously he's a cart horse though,

I'm not anti Paynter at all, he does a good job, I just wish he'd stay on his feet a bit more and battle, he does act like a little girl at times.  Show some fight "Billy lad" as some bloke in the Arkells insists on calling him.

I'm not an anti-Paynter fan either, in fact I've been surprised by him this season I thought he was a right carthorse last year.
For me he is at the top of his game at the moment, but, this is the best level he will ever play at as well, Billy Paynter is not the future of this club if we want to move on.

:D
Good on you The Flash, I felt the same.

Maybe not, but there are much more important things to be resolved before we even THINK about bringin new strikers in. Paynter is fine at this level, and judging by our league position, the team as a whole is not. Sort the defensive side of our game out first and worry about the other end of the pitch when we've stopped conceding silly goals every week

Firstly I was clearly watching the same game as Berniman and STFC Dave.

Second of all, if you think Kennedy going down, Dick Mackey coming on and stretching his leg out then Kennedy hobbling and then Kennedy being subbed and then Byrne saying Kennedy had cramp isnt in any way linked then you are a fucking retard.

Why is Paynter getting so much stick, sure his last two home performances havent been his best but hes been bloody good this season and Paynter/Cox partnership is one of the only things we have going for us. We would be fucking stupid to get rid of either one of them.

JPM is a good player, but he's a winger. He needs the service to provide the crosses. He isnt as skillfull as McNamee but his crossing is just as good. If JPM gets given the ball to his feet in the final 3rd he will play well, if we hoof it down the middle all game and never get the ball out to him he will be ineffective. McNamee is EXACTLY the same but doesnt get half as much stick because.

Pook wasnt great yesterday but the last few games he's been a better option on the middle to Timlin, Easton and Nalis who have all been awful in the middle. Easton has been one of our worst players this season which is some change from being our best player last season.

MALPAS OUT

Easton was our best midfielder last week. Mcgovern is never on the wing to get the ball in the first place

Paynter played one awesome over the top ball to Cox yesterday. Paynter is majorly underrated for his effort and passing. He sets up chances/goals time and time again. Though I don't see why we hoof it up to him, 'cause he never wins a header! I thought P.Smith had a good game yesterday, but he needs to throw it to the full-backs more often, we're most dangerous when playing it on the floor.

No where near as overrated as Paynter.

He swans about all game hardly making a challenge worth mentioning, and as soon as anything goes wrong is the first to berate the rest of the team.

You can usually tell within the first 5 mins what sort of game Paynter is going to have.
If he can out muscle the centre half, he will be alright, otherwise it's probably better to just take him off, cause the only time he will win anything in the air, is when he's not challenged.

And don't even start on his piss poor control of the ball.
When the ball get's played up to him it usually bounces 10 yards off him

....and who would be play instead Barry fucking Corr?

Oh get over yourself and pick your dummy up!  The reason I used your post as an example was to indicate that people see games in completely different ways, not to say that you were talking out of your arse of that you didn't know football.  Because of what you have done in football and seen the matches you have seen obviously means that you are right and I am wrong. ::)

TBH I couldn't give a shit what you have done in the game so there was no need to give me your life story, I was just making a point and it looks like I picked on the wrong example as I seemed to have "yanked your chain", are you related to Aljofree or something?

e.g. If you think that a person sitting at the back of the Arkells gets the same view of the challenge on Cox that happened 5 metres in front of me then I'll hold my hands up and say it doesn't matter a fuck where you sit in the ground because everybody sees the same.  If that is the case why the fuck is there 12 pages of everybody saying they saw different things when we all went to the same match?  I'll tell you, opinions and where the person is sitting when they saw the incident.

So, wind your neck in, and spell my name right next time!

Is your chain yanked enough now?

 :baby:

On a lighter not I notice Bovril is back....Good choice IMO

If only he were ever fit, then yes, but as that's only likely to happen just after hell freezes over then it's going to be Paynter to play every game.

What pisses me off about Billy and his fan club, is that we seem to be free to slag off Aljofree, Pook, Peacock and everyone else, but unless we see just how great Paynter is we're all blind & stupid.

The bloke's attitude is shit, he's the first on the pitch to start pointing fingers when anything goes wrong with everyone else.

I'd just like to see him concentrate on doing his job right, and show some fight, when things aren't going his way.



Oh, and by the way, I saw Berniman's header too, and the only thing wrong with it was that he header it to a Carlisle player  :D   
(although I guess that should be forgiven as it was a carlisle throw in)

Anyone who says Paynter is overrated is having a laugh anyway - his promising young player phase is over and most town fans don't think he's all that. How can you be overrated when most don't rate you at all?

I think the person who probably rates him the most is Simon Cox - look at his interviews. The fact that Cox and Paynter jointly have more assists than our entire midfield put together shows a lot.

I thought Paynter was a waste of time yesterday, looked to me like he ran around and did fcuk all all game.

Someone said Cox runs around too much, spot on, the bloke is far too good for this team its blatant.
Must be frustrating and fair play he trys to make it all happen himself. No one else could have chested it down and volleyed it goalwards like that - sheer class I bloody hope we keep him next month.

I also voted for Peacock man of the match thought he once again put in 100% and was our most effective  player.

Me and my mate have come to the conclusion that JP McGovern is indeed "The best player in league 2". Bet he's on a fat wedge and all. He aint earning it.

Pook had a solid enough game, put a couple of great through balls which went unnoticed then got booed when he passed back to phil smith.

Good to see beast back. Aljofree looks a bit lazy whats going on there.

game of opinions? My Arse!!

Second of all, if you think Kennedy going down, Dick Mackey coming on and stretching his leg out then Kennedy hobbling and then Kennedy being subbed and then Byrne saying Kennedy had cramp isnt in any way linked then you are a fucking retard.

I'm fucking impressed you wrote that sequence of events down for me. It all fits neatly together now and fully justifies why our defence got rearranged and promptly conceeded yet another late fucking goal.

As you say, I'm obviously a complete retard for suggesting otherwise.

Sorry for missing the fact that our physio is incapable of treating a pro footballer for the well known killer-injury that is muscle cramp, you fucking mong.

Put the crack pipe down. Peacock had an excellent game. I lost count me the number me attacks he broke up yesterday. It wasn't down to luck.  It was down to hard work. Some games he just runs around a lot without doing anything. Yesterday was not one of those days. Pook on the other hand did  have one me those unproductive days.  It happens to everyone.

What i don't understand is the Peacock bashing, typically by Arriba.....We'd be fucked without him! (Peacock not Arriba  :D ) Pook was piss poor yesterday, so how anyone can compare Peacs' performance to Pooky's is beyond me.......

We've got the players capable of achieving mid table IMO. Yes we have some 'deadwood' within our team, but then who doesn't? It's just a case of bringin a manager in who can breath some confidence into the squad (Holloway, please!).

Oh and i have the best angle in the stadium, so i'm right and you lot are wrong. Fact. 8)

I hope Fitton appoints someone soon and they are able to do a good job, this squabbling is a continuation of the Malpas era and we need to change it out fast.

Question - Do any of you think we would have more points now if Malpas stayed?

It's funny how different people see things. The players that mostly lay into others are McGovern and Peacock from what I've seen.

Though I can never hear what they're saying. They may be telling Cox to stop running around so much  ;D

Yet another highly qualified coach/manager/chairman/player/physio who spends their time pontificating behind a keyboard.

I know, everyone else is wrong and you're the only one that's right..............

And you've obviously not got an opinion, eh Herthab?

Now i ent McGovern's biggest fan, but he impressed me yesterday. Got through a lot of work, but he still drifts inside waaay too much. He's a good crosser of the ball, so if he sticks to the wing more often, we could be onto a winner.

What would be everyones starting XI for the trip to Crewe? I think it's about time to bring Easton back into the midfield and drop Pook to the bench. And despite a good debut, i'd drop Kennedy to the bench and bring Timlin back in at left back, due to it bein an away game un'all. Apart from that, i'd keep the team the same.

But let's say he left Kennedy on, and we had lost a goal due to his inability to get back and defend.

Not only would Byrne have been a complete mong for not taking off a player who was struggling with cramp, but Kennedy would also probably been slagged off for being utter shite.

The ultimate no-win situation, (other wise known as Swindon being a goal up in the last minute  :cry: )

I've got an opinion mate, but just because others disagree I try not to go off on one.

--------------Brezovan----------------
----J.Smith----Aljofree----Ifil----Kennedy
----------------Timlin------------------
----McGovern----------------McNamee
----------------Paynter----------------
-----------Cox----------Corr (if fit)----

Pahhh, lets attack the bastards. If we do the usual hoof, Corr will win the majority of balls. Paynter and Cox can retain their link-up play. If Macca and McGovern stay on the wings and deliver decent crosses, we would have more threat in the air with Barry there. Timlin as the holding midfielder, who could make sure Macca and JP see a lot of the ball. Same back four as yesterday, 'cause I thought they were reasonably solid until the last 15mins. And we need consistency there. I'd like Brez back in goal though. And let him have a long run of games, I just seem to feel a tad more confident with him there, and he would give the ball to the full backs more often the Phil does.

.......Brezovan
Smith.Ifil.Aljofree.Kennedy
McGovern.Easton.Timlin.McNamee
........Cox.Paynter

Midfield looks a bit lightweight for an away game, but we'd probably score a few....

I've also defended Peacock, Pook and Aljofree and I'll continue to defend Paynter, right now we would be worse off without him and probably after Cox he has been our best player this season!!


Have you ever had cramp, how the fuck do you treat cramp and make it go away? In that situation it doesnt pass you cant run it off.

I've had cramp (who hasnt) when playing football and when running a marathon. Sure I kept going but I was barely able to move. How do you suggest a young players get rid of cramp whilst playing football?

Perhaps the retard comment was a little too kind.

As for Crewe

Brezovan

Smith
Ifil
Aljofree
Kennedy

JPM
Peacock
Timlin
McNamee

Paynter
Cox

Lloyd Macklin on the bench!!!!

I would have Morrison ahead of Aljofree and Ifill.

http://www.thestretchinghandbook.com/archives/muscle-cramp.php  :doh:

What about players that seem to regularly get cramp just before extra time in cup finals? I don't see them being carted off en mass. They're generally treated by the physio, then just get on with the game.

In fairness, cramp effects people in different ways. For instance, some people can easily run/stretch it off, whereas with others, it can feel like a strain and be quiet painful for sometime, therefore affecting a players' performance/ability to run. A good ol' sports massage is then required

Have I missed something in that link? Point 1 of the treatement section says 1. Stop the activity that triggered the cramp in the first place?

You did ask....

One of the most useful things you can do to help prevent muscle cramps and spasms is to work on improving your overall general health and fitness. Improving your cardiovascular fitness will improve the delivery of blood to your muscles, which will ensure that they have adequate amounts of oxygen and nutrients to function properly.

Another key activity that will help to prevent cramps and spasms is stretching. Keeping your muscles loose and flexible will help to stop them from tightening up and cramping. Be sure to stretch the muscles groups that are most prone to cramping both before and after exercise or strenuous physical activity.

Stretching is one of the most under-utilized techniques for improving athletic performance and getting rid of those annoying sports injuries. Don't make the mistake of thinking that something as simple as stretching won't be effective.

If he isn't doing fitness work or stretching then the coaching really is dire.

As for pulling him off the pitch if he did get cramp, then seems to be the right choice. I'd imagine pitches make it even harder work at this time of year.

Yeah, fair enough, Si.

 I just don't ever remember a town player coming off the pitch permanently with cramp. Seems a bit of a limp excuse, that's all.

for the record i wasn't bashing peacock.i like him and know exactly what he brings to the team,but he is overated.he wasn't mom yesterday(cox was easily) and i didn't think he played that well.kavannah showed up the flaws in both our centre mids.pook was dire.maybe saying peacock was barely better than him was a bit harsh mind.dont know why jpm hasn't been praised much for yesterdays match.his deliverys were excellent and he rarely gave the ball away(peacock and pook both did)
also how can paynter get slated? he is by far our second best player this season.

i love reading delta's posts.his language and cutting comments make me laugh out loud (to the annoyance of the mrs and kids)
 

Perhaps Kennedy should do a warm up and some stretching before the game next week then.

This is the best day after the match matchday thread ever!  It was boring until today and now there are allsorts going.  Arguements about cramp, locations, boxing and the odd players chucked in to boot!

Mind you, the only statements that have been fact so far have been from Batch and Posh Red, i.e.  My header was indeed a quality cushioned header that was controlled yet acurate!  But Posh you are right, maybe I should have bullet headered it at him since he was wearing a Aquafresh kit!

 :D

I'm still awaiting the backlash I am bound to get from The Flash, unless he realises that his chain being yanked isn't the worse thing that can happen.  :nerner:

Cramp or no cramp, substitutions or no substitutions, we'd have still found a way to fuck it up anyway. We're a crap side who have the worst self destruct button I've seen in over 30 years. I'm now actually swinging to the wholesale changes view - although we haven't got the funds to do it.  Fucking up is just too systematic to be bad luck all the time.  Maybe its time to pitcy more of the youngsters in - they can't be any worse than our so called experienced pros whose only great ability seems to be fucking thnigs up.

Fucking class suggestion, DV. Much better for Callum to do that rather than lean against the town end goal post smoking tabs and talking shit before a match.  ::)

It was you that suggested that the cramp was bought on by the lack of warm up and stretching

Perhaps is we employed a proper defensive coach that could do some decent 1:1 training our defence would be better - look at the defence under Sturrock with Blackley as his defensive coach, the defence has got worse since he left.

The new manager needs to bring in a decent team of coaches with him.

And as for Kennedy getting cramp it was his first game at this level and it was played at a fairly fast pace that he is not used to, so he will probably do some conditioning work with the fitness coach and be better next week, it will take him a game or 2 to get used to the pace of L1 as he is only used to youth / reserve level where most players are making up the numbers.

I think this has showed though that we need a new man in asap so he has time to turn thing around before we carry on and end up adrift of the pack.

There are a few players that need to be shipped out so we can create space for some decent competition for places, let the players worry for their place in the team - they may put in a bettter performance and actually concentrate more.

And for me it would be P Smith over Brez, as Brez has looked ropey since he came back from injury, and looks a different keeper.

williams?

Deltacline you are talking total utter cramp

Cramps very fucking much, mate :D

a 17 year old left back getting cramp is a strange one.not saying it isn't true mind

No it fucking wasn't. You read the shit off that website that I copied, thats all. Don't start making shit up DV or all this could get well lairy and more people might start biting.. :fishing:

Are you now pretending that you were 'fishing' for this whole thing?

I really don't understand the argument you are trying to make.

[url width=188 height=248]http://www.freesignage.co.uk/pdfthumbs/prohibition/no_fishing_prohibition_sign.png[/url]

I'm not explaining it all again, Trigger. Read the thread over again if it's that tough for you.

I've just read it all on a catch up. You're retarded.

You started off saying Kennedy didn't have cramp which is total shite - it was plain for everyone to see, then seem to go on to say that he had cramp but he should have just carried on and now you're posting fishing signs and seemingly admitting that it's possible he did have cramp after all.

What the fuck is your point?

It's easy to get cramp whilst fishing?

yeah, these fishermen never warm up properly

My original point(s) got fucking lost when the cronies chose to pick up on my comments about not buying the claim that Kennedy had cramp. I still don't buy it, but of course it's a fucking 'possibility' that it's true! Fucks sake.

The fishing thing wasn't claiming to have meant me being on a wind-up, just joking that a lot of biting going on. I don't claim to know what each mesaage icon actually means, I just choose ones that are approriate to me at the time, which makes me a fucking retard, obviously.



 

And you're a fucking mook. Make sure you're knocking one out as you ban me, eh FB ;)

priceless.bravo!

It seems you were happy to be led off on a ranting tangent about cramp and it's possible causes.

I think you have some unresolved anger issues. Try some camomile tea my love.

I've banned very few people, and it's never been for being a bit of a retard. You were pretty safe.
If you want a ban though I'll happily oblige. It's not as if you bring anything to the forum. I doubt anybody would have noticed if it wasn't for this and your last post.

I think somebody explained what a mook is, but I've forgotten.

delta's just pissy today cos she got a bollocking at the salon yesterday for leaving Mrs Smith in rollers for too long. No amount of "Doing anything nice for Christmas?" banter can undo prolonged roller agony and she had to put it right by hand. Took hours and now she's got crimper cramp.

Hey! Where's the love?

To be fair Pook was shite at Brighton-but then so was everyone else!

Yes

Apology accepted  :D

 :-*

 :lovers:

 :puke:

Alright gays, keep this outside.

You know you want me too Sam!  I've already told you I don't swing that way!  Sorry Mate!