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Title: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 08:57:00 Is there a press officer at the club surely the best thing for the players to do at the moment is to shut up and do their talking on the pitch. Having a go at the fans in the press is only going to make matters worst, I think they are being poorly advised if at all. >:(
http://www.thisisswindontownfc.co.uk/news/headlines/display.var.2454501.0.dont_get_at_the_boss.php Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 08:59:41 Quote HASNEY Aljofree has called on Town's boo boys to lay off manager Maurice Malpas they bid to turn their flagging season around. The County Ground faithful derided Malpas with chants of you don't know what you're doing', and also called for him to be sacked as Swindon recorded a fourth home defeat on the trot with their 2-1 reverse against Millwall on Sunday. But Town's captain insists booing the team off the pitch at half and full-time will do nothing to help improve their fortunes. advertisement "What I'm hearing with them shouting get Malpas out' - it doesn't help anyone," said Aljofree. "The manager's worked his backside off to give us everything and it's not his fault. We're the lads out on the pitch who have to produce, and obviously we're not doing it at the County Ground for whatever reason." Aljofree added: "Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan myself and I want my team to win every week and then I get annoyed when they don't. "But at the end of the day Swindon Town are in League One for a reason, because of what's happened in the past. "We're here trying our best to take the club forward. The work off the field by the club is going in the right direction. The fans are safe that the club's going to be here. "But at the same time we're working our socks off as players and management to give the fans a win and at the moment it's tough for us for whatever reason. "Hopefully sooner rather than later we can turn it round." I think saying it's having a go at the fans is a bit over the top. He just says it doesn't help. Which is true enough. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Weasel on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:00:57 "Don't get me wrong, I'm a fan myself and I want my team to win every week and then I get annoyed when they don't."
Who's he a fan of? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:01:47 Chess Boxing.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:02:27 manager says its his fault not players
captain says its players fault not managers blah blah fucking blah You're all to blame you cunts, now stop being so shit Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:17:54 Aljofree is hardly slagging the fans off although he should just keep his mouth shut really.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:18:33 Can I just say that on the whole I agree with him.
The behaviour of some of our fans (you know who you are) was in all honesty fucking disgraceful Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:20:31 This is getting boring it's the same old thing after every game,To me this shows that they are not playing with the same ball.Dont they communicate with each other for christ sake,It would have been far better for Aljofree to keep quiet and let his gaffer do the talking.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:22:30 manager says its his fault not players captain says its players fault not managers blah blah fucking blah You're all to blame you cunts, now stop being so shit Summed it up perfectly, dont come out defending each other just shut up and sort it out and the boo boys will go away. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:26:19 I think saying it's having a go at the fans is a bit over the top. He just says it doesn't help. Which is true enough. There is one way to make it stop and that is not coming out in the press and moaning about it, my main point is more about who is letting the players talk to the press at the moment because they are not helping matters by doing it. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 09:50:40 Unfortunately his statement is about as clever as his defending. If Jack Smith had come out and said this then fair enough - he's given 100% but Aljofree would be very wise to keep his gob shut unless he's on the training ground trying to get his game back on track.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:00:16 Unfortunately his statement is about as clever as his defending. If Jack Smith had come out and said this then fair enough - he's given 100% but Aljofree would be very wise to keep his gob shut unless he's on the training ground trying to get his game back on track. Sorry but like it or not for the time being he is captain and it's the captain's remit to be the spokesman for the players. Error of judgement or not, if he was asked to submit these views by a third party then he is quite right to do so. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:29:58 Seems as though theres soapy balls as well as footballs that nobody can control at the CG.
We pay the money and we watch the football and WE will decide what WE think is wrong! Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: janaage on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:36:00 Can I just say that on the whole I agree with him. The behaviour of some of our fans (you know who you are) was in all honesty fucking disgraceful Agreed Fred, I was really pissed off with some of our so called supporters on Sunday. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: DV on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:41:39 Thing is everything he has said there is spot on and he has every right to say it.
Getting on the managers back doesnt help and this shows the players do hear the crowd, so its no surprise we've got better results away from home is it.... Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:45:09 Seems as though theres soapy balls as well as footballs that nobody can control at the CG. We pay the money and we watch the football and WE will decide what WE think is wrong! I dont like what is going on certainly, but all this posturing and kicking people when they are quite clearly down is not helping one iota Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:46:28 Well, yes, but it's a little bit like when someone has a go at him during games and he has a go back. He may well be "entitled" to do it, but it doesn't really help does it? And nor does this IMO - it's not going to stop any of the boo-boys having a pop at Malpas or Aljofree, if anything it will just inflame some of those who want Malpas out to join in having a go at Aljofree. If he really wanted to calm the situation, something along the lines of "Fans having a go at players obviously doesn't help, but as players we must also recognise us having a go back isn't exactly the brightest way of dealing with it either. So I'm sorry I offered that old guy out at Stockport, and I'll try and concentrate on setting an example on the pitch in future" might have been more useful.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Bogus Dave on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:49:54 i can honestly say i see nothing in that statement that appears out of line.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:54:47 On the whole i agree with what he said but the following?
"But at the end of the day Swindon Town are in League One for a reason, because of what's happened in the past. Explain to me what the fuck has that got to do with losing the last 4 games at home Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: sheepshagger on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 10:58:18 I think the bloke has shown himself up as a bit of a twat to be honest....
At MK Ding Dongs a small section of away fans had a dig at him for a shit clearance - he was straight at it with hand gestures etc... At Stockport he offered the fella out coz he was getting some stick... He is meant to be the captain for fucks sake and set an example.... I hear him saying this in the press, and having a pop at supporters whilst on the pitch - but I don't hear him acting like a captain and organising the troops - and getting them going.... He should shut up in the press - and actually start walking the walk on the pitch ! While I didn't boo on Sunday - i can absolutely understand the calls for MM to go - all the absolute shite football that we keep serving up at home is enough to annoy ANY fan into shouting - they get paid a bloody good wedge, and we pay our money to watch it. I am never in favour of booing for the sake of it - but FFS something had to be said on Sunday !!! Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:04:57 I did boo at the final whistle but i do not boo players while they are playing......i must admit i did shout "What the fxxk are you doing?" at MK Dongs at him.
Coming out and saying all that guff is not helping. We dont pay £20 a pop to turn up and boo for fucks sake!! We want some passion and commitment and maybe a bit of skill as a bonus, i dont even insist on winning!!! That shit on Saturday is not good enough by a long chalk. Stop talking to the press! Stop yapping back at the fans! Roll up your sleeves. Organise your team. Earn your money and our respect...... PERIOD. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:28:07 PERIOD. That explains the bad mood then. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Tails on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:54:21 He's got a fantastic point in all fairness.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:56:40 Did they boo against qpr,colchester and leeds then?
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: STFC_Gazza on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 11:59:18 You can see the next home game if we dont do well. people will get on Aljofree's back and then he will have a go at the fans in the Town End and a pretty big row may errupt.
"But at the end of the day Swindon Town are in League One for a reason, because of what's happened in the past. Yes well done Hasney, Fair enough but what releveance does that have to this season? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:03:26 I think he might be pointing out that expectations may be a little high.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:06:43 If so thats fair enough and i am entitled to agree but what i do not get is why we are perforing like it.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:07:24 The point is he should have said nothing at all whether he has a point or not is a matter of opinion but surely he would have been better advised to not comment at all because all he is doing is further alienating himself with certain elements of our support(I hasten to add I am not one of those who boo him).
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:09:11 Oh yeah, definitely. Whether he's right or not, it's not very good in terms of fan-player diplomacy.
Still, it kicking off is exciting. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:12:39 Sorry for my rants but i have never walked away from a ground so pissed off since Town V Norwich under McMoan!
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:17:13 although his comments are not out of order,it wont help calm the friction.if malpas is given more time aljofree will still get slated by individuals along with jpm.it wont help anyone and i just cannot see things turning around.malpas has to go now so a new manager can lift the place, and negative attention can be diverted away from the likes of aljofree and jpm.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:19:27 What i am struggling to get my head round is that they are basically saying that getting on the players backs is not helping, well thats all well and good and can explain Millwall but what about the previous shit they dished up.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:21:36 aljofrees comments will only fuel the fire with some fans that have it in for him.honestly it's looking worse by the day imo
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:25:06 Dons got a point...............there is a pattern forming...defeat - defeat - defeat - defeat!
Malpas (who i have not had a pop at until now) says we need a cutting edge at the County Ground.........i agree.......on Fittons Axe. :blowup: Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:25:35 What i am struggling to get my head round is that they are basically saying that getting on the players backs is not helping, well thats all well and good and can explain Millwall but what about the previous shit they dished up. In fairness DRS both Aljofree and JPM seem to have been consistently targetted by a section of the crowd pretty much since the start of the season. And yes they should rise above it and all that (see my previous post in here - I don't think his comments are going to help do anything other than inflame the situation), but it's not just the Millwall game where some people have been targetting players and booing during the game. And I will never understand how people think that's going to help.Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:25:43 What i am struggling to get my head round is that they are basically saying that getting on the players backs is not helping, well thats all well and good and can explain Millwall but what about the previous shit they dished up. I dont mind getting beat fair and square by a better side but it is the manner of the defeats both Millwall and Leeds have gone away thinking they are billy big bollocks when actually many League 2 sides would have beat us the last 2 home games it is the lack of effort and cohesion that left me fuming on Sunday and the constant bleating of players in the Adver saying it is going to change just makes matters worst. Yes something needs to change it is the MANAGER!!! Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:26:17 Malpas (who i have not had a pop at until now) says we need a cutting edge at the County Ground. Should have kept hold of Moses thenTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:28:49 Should have kept hold of Moses then Yeah - i liked him!Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:30:59 i've just read the comments on the article on thisis which have been allowed again i see.not good reading at all
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: sheepshagger on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:32:05 In fairness DRS both Aljofree and JPM seem to have been consistently targetted by a section of the crowd pretty much since the start of the season. And yes they should rise above it and all that (see my previous post in here - I don't think his comments are going to help do anything other than inflame the situation), but it's not just the Millwall game where some people have been targetting players and booing during the game. And I will never understand how people think that's going to help. Paul - could it be that people have been on JPM and Aljofree's back's because they have been consistently shite since the start of the season ? I am not hearing that about Jack Smith, McNamee, Cox etc.... Maybe there is a reason that everyone else seems to be able to see apart from MM ........ Whilst it might not be the right thing to do for their confidence - what are people supposed to do ? Politely applaud all their mistakes ? JPM seemed to touch the ball about 6 times on Sunday - and gave it away at least 5 of them !! When it is that bad he deserves to be shouted at..... Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:33:52 Paul - could it be that people have been on JPM and Aljofree's back's because they have been consistently shite since the start of the season ? I think it is that coupled with the fact that a couple of fans favourites have been made scapegots instead of these two.I am not hearing that about Jack Smith, McNamee, Cox etc.... Maybe there is a reason that everyone else seems to be able to see apart from MM ........ Whilst it might not be the right thing to do for their confidence - what are people supposed to do ? Politely applaud all their mistakes ? JPM seemed to touch the ball about 6 times on Sunday - and gave it away at least 5 of them !! When it is that bad he deserves to be shouted at..... Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:35:11 In fairness DRS both Aljofree and JPM seem to have been consistently targetted by a section of the crowd pretty much since the start of the season. And yes they should rise above it and all that (see my previous post in here - I don't think his comments are going to help do anything other than inflame the situation), but it's not just the Millwall game where some people have been targetting players and booing during the game. And I will never understand how people think that's going to help. No you are right and individual abuse will not help and it obviously is not helping those two. For as long as i can remember swindon fans well all fans for that matter have always had a boo boy rightly or wrongly. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:36:48 I think it is that coupled with the fact that a couple of fans favourites have been made scapegots instead of these two. Please expand Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:39:05 I dont mind getting beat fair and square by a better side but it is the manner of the defeats both Millwall and Leeds have gone away thinking they are billy big bollocks when actually many League 2 sides would have beat us the last 2 home games it is the lack of effort and cohesion that left me fuming on Sunday and the constant bleating of players in the Adver saying it is going to change just makes matters worst. Yes something needs to change it is the MANAGER!!! In fairness DRS both Aljofree and JPM seem to have been consistently targetted by a section of the crowd pretty much since the start of the season. And yes they should rise above it and all that (see my previous post in here - I don't think his comments are going to help do anything other than inflame the situation), but it's not just the Millwall game where some people have been targetting players and booing during the game. And I will never understand how people think that's going to help. I think against Millwall the boo's etc were at their loudest, there has been individual groups during previous games but not to that extent, when will people learn that during a game you support the players and cheer them on to hopefully get 3 pts, if at full time they have not shown the effort and commitment required then by all means let them know, but during the game support the players. I think Sunday was the first time that Malpas has had his name chanted since he's been here - he has never really been accepted as he was an unknown ,and has probably not been afforded as much time to get it right as perhaps someone along the lines of Sturrock / Wise would have. And Aljofree's peice basically saying they are scared of making mistakes, if they put 90 mins of effort and commitment in and lost then the fan;s would accept that as they would have got beat by a better team, but not outting in the required effort you will get abuse. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: chalkies_shorts on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:41:15 If we put aside the bear baiting thats going on with Aljofree and JPM and put aside whether its right or wrong then is it a result of just not liking the players or is it a reaction to their performances. Which came first the bear baiting or the performances. In my case, I'm acting on what I've seen. I will get behind anyone who puts on the shirt and give them a fair crack.There are some players, however, who are not worthy of wearing the shirt. I couldn't care less where they come from ( as long as they're not Scummers ), whether they're black, white, pink or big, small etc. What I do care about is that they give 100% - J Smith, Nalis, Cox and Paynter take a bow.
Unfortunately, it looks like Easton, MacNamee and Timlin may well go the same way. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:43:06 Please expand Ifil and brez i think he means mateTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Fred Elliot on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:43:56 Fair comment
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Dazzza on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:45:35 I wonder if I’m just getting old but this expectation that we should be anywhere other than where we sit in the league and Malpas’ is to blame is almost deluded.
We had a good season in League one last year while the club teetered on oblivion and we have been told by the new owners that it will be a steady progression with the CumpShip the target in THREE years. We’re eight games into the season where we have had a shit load to moan about and it isn’t good enough but reading some of the comments I wonder if we’d be better off changing the red shirt to black and white barcodes and standing outside of the County Ground all day to bleat about how hard done by we all are. Malpas has been brought in for the long haul and the witch hunt is feeble. More so from those who have been out to get him from day one as he didn’t meet the expectations of a ‘big’ name replacement for mumbles. I was no fan of King or McMoan towards in last few weeks but by Christ poor old Malpas is being vilified more than those pair of clowns put together. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: DV on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:46:27 Paul - could it be that people have been on JPM and Aljofree's back's because they have been consistently shite since the start of the season ? I am not hearing that about Jack Smith, McNamee, Cox etc.... That sums it up really. Apart from Tranmere McNamee has been pretty shit this season. He's had a good couple of 5 minute spells here and there but ultimately since opening day he's done very little but hes a fan favourite so gets no stick. I've stood up for JPM in the past but cant anymore he's been poor. Not helped by our midfield not giving him service but he has been poor. Shoot me if you like but was Aljofree really that bad Saturday. How many stupid mistake did he make? For the first goal he tried to cut out the ball instead of sticking with his man, he made the wrong decision however if he'd got a proper foot on the ball he would have made the right decision it was that close between clearing it and failing. Other than that I thought he looked alright. Did the Millwall forwards get much more out of him? Millwall only had 4 shots.... The entrie midfield were much worse than Aljofree in my opinion... Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: yeo on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:51:45 I wonder if I’m just getting old but this expectation that we should be anywhere other than where we sit in the league and Malpas’ is to blame is almost deluded. We had a good season in League one last year while the club teetered on oblivion and we have been told by the new owners that it will be a steady progression with the CumpShip the target in THREE years. We’re eight games into the season where we have had a shit load to moan about and it isn’t good enough but reading some of the comments I wonder if we’d be better off changing the red shirt to black and white barcodes and standing outside of the County Ground all day to bleat about how hard done by we all are. Malpas has been brought in for the long haul and the witch hunt is feeble. More so from those who have been out to get him from day one as he didn’t meet the expectations of a ‘big’ name replacement for mumbles. I was no fan of King or McMoan towards in last few weeks but by Christ poor old Malpas is being vilified more than those pair of clowns put together. spot on Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:54:40 Dazza
When the fans were purchasing season tickets they were being offered the Swindon experience, Pre season we were told are defence was solid and we were fitter than we have been for years. New fans have a right to be very bemused by not getting what they have been promised. I have been following the town for 24 years now and as long as i can remember this is the worse i have felt about the playing staff and management. That has nothing to do with past or deluded expectations that is to do with witnessing possibly 3 of the worst games i have witnessed in the last 10 years and absolutely no passion whatsoever. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:55:29 I wonder if I’m just getting old but this expectation that we should be anywhere other than where we sit in the league and Malpas’ is to blame is almost deluded. We had a good season in League one last year while the club teetered on oblivion and we have been told by the new owners that it will be a steady progression with the CumpShip the target in THREE years. We’re eight games into the season where we have had a shit load to moan about and it isn’t good enough but reading some of the comments I wonder if we’d be better off changing the red shirt to black and white barcodes and standing outside of the County Ground all day to bleat about how hard done by we all are. Malpas has been brought in for the long haul and the witch hunt is feeble. More so from those who have been out to get him from day one as he didn’t meet the expectations of a ‘big’ name replacement for mumbles. I was no fan of King or McMoan towards in last few weeks but by Christ poor old Malpas is being vilified more than those pair of clowns put together. I would say it comes down to the fear of relegation,if we was sitting in the top half of the table most fans would be happy,It's early day's i know, but when we have not played that well all season people tend to see the trap door looming. This moment in time you cant blame them,because it's hard to see where the next three points is coming from. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:55:53 8 points from 8 games is worrying though isn't it?
along with the poor form of individuals? there are cretins who have not given maplas a fair chance,and i'd say the same about jpm,and aljofree. but it is what it is. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 12:56:51 Ifil and brez i think he means mate Yes that is who I meant.Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: lambourn red on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:04:46 That sums it up really. Apart from Tranmere McNamee has been pretty shit this season. He's had a good couple of 5 minute spells here and there but ultimately since opening day he's done very little but hes a fan favourite so gets no stick. I've stood up for JPM in the past but cant anymore he's been poor. Not helped by our midfield not giving him service but he has been poor. Shoot me if you like but was Aljofree really that bad Saturday. How many stupid mistake did he make? For the first goal he tried to cut out the ball instead of sticking with his man, he made the wrong decision however if he'd got a proper foot on the ball he would have made the right decision it was that close between clearing it and failing. Other than that I thought he looked alright. Did the Millwall forwards get much more out of him? Millwall only had 4 shots.... The entrie midfield were much worse than Aljofree in my opinion... The constant aimless punts up front, the lump into the stands when there is time to put your foot on it, 2-1 down with 5 minutes to go usher the ball out for a goal kick by the corner flag and to then be 3 foot away and walk away having to let your goalkeeper run 25 yards to fetch it. The guys body language is all wrong at the moment I am afraid to say he should be the one in the stands not Ifil. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:09:03 Dazza When the fans were purchasing season tickets they were being offered the Swindon experience, Pre season we were told are defence was solid and we were fitter than we have been for years. New fans have a right to be very bemused by not getting what they have been promised. I have been following the town for 24 years now and as long as i can remember this is the worse i have felt about the playing staff and management. That has nothing to do with past or deluded expectations that is to do with witnessing possibly 3 of the worst games i have witnessed in the last 10 years and absolutely no passion whatsoever. If you purchase a season ticket then you do it (or should) with the knowledge that anything can happen during the season and that pre-season optimism more often than not turns out to be a false dawn, something that becomes apparent long before Christmas. This applies to most clubs not just Swindon so I agree with Dazza that to think otherwise is slightly deluded. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:17:34 Nah you are right and obviously anything can happen BUT i am sure they did not expect to see that level of performance.
Fucksake last season we finished off battering teams pre season(pointless i know) we played and competed against very good european teams.As long as i can remember our home form has always been fairly solid now it is not. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:32:51 8 points from 8 games is worrying though isn't it? along with the poor form of individuals? there are cretins who have not given maplas a fair chance,and i'd say the same about jpm,and aljofree. but it is what it is. 8 points from 8 games is a terrible return,The problem is we got beat by cheltenham,colchester who we should have beat or at least took four points.I would like to know some opinions of the tranmere game,I was on holiday so i missed it,what was our defence like ? did we play the passing game and get the ball to macca ? was tranmere poor ? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Colin Todd on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:39:34 Tranmere were even worse than us defensively, but had a few chances themselves in the 1st half that they fucked up.
Their midfield stood off us and allowed us to pass it about nicely. They played 4-3-3 which allowed macca to constantly be isolated against the right back. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:39:58 Paul - could it be that people have been on JPM and Aljofree's back's because they have been consistently shite since the start of the season ? Yes, almost certainly. But that wasn't the point I was makingTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rustle on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 13:46:09 Tranmere were even worse than us defensively, but had a few chances themselves in the 1st half that they fucked up. Their midfield stood off us and allowed us to pass it about nicely. They played 4-3-3 which allowed macca to constantly be isolated against the right back. Thank you,I was hoping you wasn't going to say something like that,It seems it don't take much to stop us then,which is very worrying. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: sheepshagger on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:17:41 Yes, almost certainly. But that wasn't the point I was making Sorry I must have missed the point you were making........ I thought you were saying that it has happened but it is unhelpful ? I was saying whilst it might be unhelpful, if they are constantly shite what as fans are we to do ? Politely applaud them and hope they get better ? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 15:43:25 I fuckin hate some of our fans sometimes.......The reaction the majority of them have given towards Hasney's comments is disgraceful! If it were any other player, i.e. Ifil, they wouldn't have been anywhere near as harsh!
The fact that Hasney does actually have a point, makes it even worse! ::) Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:09:24 Im gettin fucked off with the 'i hate our fans bollocks' our weakest links have been defence aljofree has played every game.maybe if our manager grew some bollocks and dropped him he may return knowing he has a fight on his hands. 4 games in a row and only the last one they made their feelings known. Half you cunts moaning about shit support sit quietly for 90 mins why not start singing malpas name then ?
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:12:36 I will also add the most abuse aljofree got was mk and stockport which we did well so why did that not make any difference
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: janaage on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:13:15 Because he's a confident person, who doesn't suffer from afraid-ness.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:16:22 Im gettin fucked off with the 'i hate our fans bollocks' our weakest links have been defence aljofree has played every game.maybe if our manager grew some bollocks and dropped him he may return knowing he has a fight on his hands. 4 games in a row and only the last one they made their feelings known. Half you cunts moaning about shit support sit quietly for 90 mins why not start singing malpas name then ? Well i get fucked off with people shoutin abuse at the players every 5 minutes!!! What's it goin to achieve?Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:19:06 Im gettin fucked off with the 'i hate our fans bollocks' I'm pissed off to DRS. I've been saying our fans are fucking cuntspacs for years, now everybody's jumping on the shit fan bandwagon. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:21:35 Its football not cricket fans shout at players. Last year i shouted ffs town sort it out.paynter told me to fuck off. Shal i do a story in the paper saying that does not help me sing for them
Well i get fucked off with people shoutin abuse at the players every 5 minutes!!! What's it goin to achieve? Well i get fucked off with people shoutin abuse at the players every 5 minutes!!! What's it goin to achieve? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:21:42 I'm pissed off to DRS. I've been saying our fans are fucking cuntspacs for years, now everybody's jumping on the shit fan bandwagon. :D Swish. If DRS is getting pissed off now, what the hell was he a couple of days/weeks ago when the first comments were being made!??! Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: PHIL!!!! on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:22:29 I'm pissed off to DRS. I've been saying our fans are fucking cuntspacs for years, now everybody's jumping on the shit fan bandwagon. Hahaha! Way to lighten the mood Mr FB :DTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: DV on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 16:48:17 I will also add the most abuse aljofree got was mk and stockport which we did well so why did that not make any difference because one or two people is slightly different from hundreds. Franchise was only or two and Stockport by all accounts was the same. It was certainly more than one or two saturday. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:03:59 Good point dv.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: michael on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:37:24 For the person who asked earlier, Hasney is a Man United fan.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Rich Pullen on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:41:16 For the person who asked earlier, Hasney is a Man United fan. But he is from Blackley though, therefore that's probably allowed :) Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Spencer_White on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 17:53:39 I think the players are hearing a lot more stick this year because we just are not singing at all at home. Everyone is just watching thinking 'what the fuck is going on?' because you dont have a clue what were going to do next.
Not being funny, but Aljofree wasnt too scared to have a go back at that bloke at Stockport was he? He just doesnt know how to deal with it. The stick at McDons wasnt that bad, just a few groans and he just couldnt take it at all. Hes a bad captain and hes been in our worst defence for years. Hes not a bad player though. Hes brought it on himself. I thought there might be a problem with his attitude towards the fans when he did the interview about Sturrock pre season. The respect isnt there. We dont respect him and he doesnt respect us. Time for a free transfer I rekon. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: cib on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 18:07:18 because one or two people is slightly different from hundreds. Franchise was only or two and Stockport by all accounts was the same. It was certainly more than one or two saturday. The guy he offered out at Stockport was a cunt too - from kick-off he was moaning about everything and to be honest i'm glad Aljofree did it, as he showed at least some passion and the cunt moved from behind me. His comments in the paper today, although unhelpful, seem to have been edited to stir up even more discontent among fans. This doesn't mean what he said isn't right and that he doesn't have a point though! Overall i think its just a shame the Adver see their forum as truly representative of town fans as surely our fans, collectively, aren't as monged as those on there. But I think its a bit irresponsible of the Adver to print this stuff seeing the run we're on at the minute, when it is just causing more hassle. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 18:55:47 Sorry I must have missed the point you were making........ Well, no, but perhaps leave the booing etc till after the game has finished. I'm assuming that during the game we all WANT the players to play as well as possible - getting on their backs then can't possibly help. So why not wait till the final whistle and let rip then if you feel the need?I thought you were saying that it has happened but it is unhelpful ? I was saying whilst it might be unhelpful, if they are constantly shite what as fans are we to do ? Politely applaud them and hope they get better ? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Tuesday, September 30, 2008, 19:13:57 I agree with that paul. I moan and groan and will shout sort it now and then but wont boo during the game, i will say at half time i see nothing wrong with it though.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: adje on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:21:27 Im no longer interested in anything Aljofree has to say-unless it's "I'm leaving"
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:23:11 Also sol campbell showed against spurs how pro footballers should respond.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: flammableBen on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:24:58 Im no longer interested in anything Aljofree has to say-unless it's "I'm leaving" That's a bit harsh. Disliked players have turned it round before. Who doesn't remember the parade we did for Bobby Howe when his career eventually came to an end? Some parts of Swindon still celebrate Bobby Howe day. I miss Bobby Howe. Bobby Howe for manager? Did you know his actual first name was Stephen? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Bushey Boy on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:26:06 He has done too many things, can do, wont miss his hoof
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:46:13 Also sol campbell showed against spurs how pro footballers should respond. Whilst I agree with your point surely it must be different when it comes from your own fans? I've never really been in that position (obviously!) so its hard to call but surely as a football you some what expect stick from fans of clubs you've left not your own fans. Not that Aljofree should of re-acted but I know alot of people who would have in his shoes. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:50:38 See what you are saying aswell dv just think he should have bit his tongue. Hope he learns from it though might be the kick up the ass he needed
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: DV on Wednesday, October 1, 2008, 21:56:39 I know I've done both. Although not in a professional football but there have been times when I've bit my tounge and left things but there has also been times I've lost it. I expect thats the same with most people. My example arent during work though!
I think Aljofree giving it back is probably less about professionalism and more him personally, some people have short fuses. The best way I could put it into every day terms, is if you were having a fight with someone you'd expect the verbals from their mates but you'd be a bit pissed off if your mates started as well.... I dont think I explained that too well. I know what I mean Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:13:52 If i was stacking shelves and some random customer started shouting horrific abuse at me i'd feel i had a right to have some words back at him
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:16:04 If you were getting 2k + a week for stocking those shelves would you?
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Colin Todd on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:19:46 And 5,000 customers paid to watch you stack sheves?
Its a shit analogy Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:22:04 Well sorry.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:22:27 If i was stacking shelves and some random customer started shouting horrific abuse at me i'd feel i had a right to have some words back at him And if other customers heard you doing so, you'd probably get sacked or at least face disciplinary action. But it's a fairly rubbish analogy really as having customers comment on the performance of the job is not a standard part of the shelf-stacking role. If a couple of thousand people regularly gathered in the Co-op singing encouraging shelf-stacking songs and occasionally shouting "Don't put the peas back there" then berating the store manager for not using the promising young lad on the pineapples shelf, you'd have a pointTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: janaage on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:23:12 I like the fact some of our players answer back to their critics, why should supporters comments not be responded to? I just wish the players showed the grit, determination and fight against the opposition than they do against our amazingly fantastic supporters.
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: janaage on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:25:59 I prefer the analogy of if you worked at a Pritt Stick factory and you got the formula wrong, and you tried to test out the product, the atmosphere turns nasty as the 5,000 people watching you, start chanting "you don't know what you're gluing".
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 09:28:14 I prefer the analogy of if you worked at a Pritt Stick factory and you got the formula wrong, and you tried to test out the product, the atmosphere turns nasty as the 5,000 people watching you, start chanting "you don't know what you're gluing". ;D Good work sir. Made oi larfTitle: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: nevillew on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 10:58:34 I prefer the analogy of if you worked at a Pritt Stick factory and you got the formula wrong, and you tried to test out the product, the atmosphere turns nasty as the 5,000 people watching you, start chanting "you don't know what you're gluing". Or indeed, to turn the tables, a sewage worker berating customer performance... Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: pauld on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 11:17:43 Or indeed, to turn the tables, a sewage worker berating customer performance... "Your shit and you know it is"Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: nevillew on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:09:44 "Your shit and you know it is" I was thinking "you don't know what you're pooing", but your effort is better, Anyone for turd place ? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: herthab on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:12:29 I hate all these puns. The same old faeces posting them time and time again. When all's said and dung it's just not funny. I'm really browned off..........
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: nevillew on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:14:01 I hate all these puns. The same old faeces posting them time and time again. When all's said and dung it's just not funny. I'm really browned off.......... Not bad - you missed 'dunny' for 'funny' though Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 12:14:41 I was thinking "you don't know what your'e pooing", but your effort is better, Anyone for turd place ? Oh when the brown goes steaming in? Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 17:40:41 People slag me off in my job quite often.
It does ruin your week sometimes, especially if they are right. But if I turned round and lost it, offered them outside I wouldnt expect to keep my job. Fucking hell, look at some of the crap Ash has to deal with. How he doesnt loose it with some of them ive got no idea. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Don Rogers Shop on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 18:31:50 Fuck off i deal with that instead now, he sits their wacking one ov and lookin at haveawank.com
Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Spencer_White on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 18:43:10 I got Bully in the shop at the moment.
They keep buying blue paper roll from us because some of the kitchens and bathrooms are so disgusting they just carpet it first. Said he did one of your bogs that was litterally flowing with human shit last week. They must have just kept on using it right up to the bog seat! Dirty fucking foreigners. Title: Re: Aljofree Comments Today Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 2, 2008, 23:10:55 Oh Asher's bogs
Are full of shit Asher's bogs are full of shit They're full of shit, shit and more shit Asher's bogs are full of shit. |