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« Reply #510 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 12:24:37 » |
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In all honesty, I can't remember specifically what our crimes were and why the punishment was supposed to reflect the crimes committed. I thought that a major part of if was that we were able to attract players to the club that might not have signed if everything was done legitimately. I see the breaking of FFP as a similar crime, in that competing clubs could argue that they were denied the same access to players because the guilty clubs used money they should not have been using in ways that they should not have been using it, if you get my drift. Any success that was achieved was therefore supported by underhand financial dealings and the consequences of the success (points accumulated / promotion) duly punished. Bournemouth's fine certainly does not punish the consequences of their lack of fair play.
We declared lower salaries for the players bought so that the transfer fees would be lower, and then topped the salaries up with illegal bonuses. I've got a letter from the Football League at home somewhere that details everything.
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« Reply #511 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 12:28:31 » |
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We declared lower salaries for the players bought so that the transfer fees would be lower, and then topped the salaries up with illegal bonuses. I've got a fag packet from the Football League at home somewhere that details everything.
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« Reply #512 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 12:45:00 » |
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We declared lower salaries for the players bought so that the transfer fees would be lower, and then topped the salaries up with illegal bonuses. I've got a letter from the Football League at home somewhere that details everything.
Cheers.
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« Reply #513 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 12:49:05 » |
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And Philippe Cuervo....and, yes, Bouazza is also playing for them now.
Looking at this http://www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=CUERVOPH I was shocked to read that he only started 16 games for us, on his day one of the most exciting players although the bleached hair was a low point!
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« Reply #514 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 12:52:34 » |
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And Philippe Cuervo....and, yes, Bouazza is also playing for them now.
They also had Tony Cascarino (is a wanker, is a wanker) there for a while.
Red Star are my favourite club in France - when I lived in the "93" I used to go to watch them every week. Darras was playing for them at the time - they were in the 2nd division when I first started going but slid down the leagues before climbing back up again. They won't go up this season though - 4 points behind 3rd place with 2 games to go I think.
I saw them play last season (when they won the 3rd division title) away at Luçon where I have a house. Bouazza played.....we (wife + 3 kids) boosted the Red Star following to 18 if I recall correctly!
Fred Darras sadly no longer with us. And who knows when or whether Red Star will get to play in St Ouen again.
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Tout ce que je sais de plus sûr à propos de la moralité et des obligations des hommes, c'est au football que je le dois. - Albert Camus
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« Reply #515 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 13:41:01 » |
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I see the breaking of FFP as a similar crime, in that competing clubs could argue that they were denied the same access to players because the guilty clubs used money they should not have been using in ways that they should not have been using it, if you get my drift. Any success that was achieved was therefore supported by underhand financial dealings and the consequences of the success (points accumulated / promotion) duly punished. Bournemouth's fine certainly does not punish the consequences of their lack of fair play.
This could be one for Reg but it seems Top Tier clubs never face points deductions or similar but that lower tier clubs do
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« Reply #516 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 14:15:22 » |
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We declared lower salaries for the players bought so that the transfer fees would be lower, and then topped the salaries up with illegal bonuses. I've got a letter from the Football League at home somewhere that details everything.
It equated to something like £105,000 of undeclared wages or something like that, which in today's money may be a bit more I suppose. It wasn't huge, by any measure, but we fiddled the transfer tribunal process that was in place back then as well as the tax man. So both football clubs and HMRC got less than they would otherwise have received and we afforded players we might not have afforded. Similar but seen as much more serious offence as it went against the spirit of the league - note that paying football debts in administration is still a requirement of membership to the league, the league takes a dim view of not giving money to other clubs when it is due. The FA took the appeal and put us back one league.
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« Reply #517 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 14:25:02 » |
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2,600 safe standing spaces at Celtic next season
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« Reply #518 on: Wednesday, May 4, 2016, 20:57:28 » |
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2,600 safe standing spaces at Celtic next season Fantastic. I hope it works out well for them and as a consequence causes a shift in other leagues.
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« Reply #519 on: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 08:43:39 » |
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Hartlepool supporters all dressing up as Storm Troopers to travel to Plymouth yesterday.
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« Reply #520 on: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 10:56:01 » |
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They do something like that every season don't they, sure I've seen pictures of hundreds of Smurf's watching a game.
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« Reply #521 on: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 11:07:02 » |
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They've been doing it for about 10 years. Penguins and thunderbirds are 2 others I remember seeing. The best shot of the smurfs was them all on an escalator.
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« Reply #522 on: Sunday, May 8, 2016, 11:27:55 » |
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