Let's Get Political!

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

This churned my stomach and brought a tear to me eye. Some might not want to watch

https://x.com/jimfergusonuk/status/1710575796744589440?s=61&t=HYPly50GSEZLTKzNdaNp7Q

[adje]

America supply arms to Israel

So do we don't we?

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

This churned my stomach and brought a tear to me eye. Some might not want to watch

https://x.com/jimfergusonuk/status/1710575796744589440?s=61&t=HYPly50GSEZLTKzNdaNp7Q

Jesus.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Just seen worse. Cars stopped, all occupants murdered - men, women, children.

My god, what’s wrong with humanity.

[Batch]

the only way it stops is to actually talk. we know that.

But look at The Troubles, that took a long time, concessions and people with the nerves of steel to follow it through.

But it has to start with willing.

it's FUBAR

[fuzzy]

Just seen worse. Cars stopped, all occupants murdered - men, women, children.

My god, what’s wrong with humanity.

Religion

[Wobbly Bob]

The abused can end up as abusers.

That could apply to nations / peoples as well as individuals.
I'm thinking of both sides in this particular conflict.

The attitudes of some nations that claim to set an example hasn't helped over the years.

[Bennett]

Setting up a safe route and then (apparently) bombing it, is something the West was outraged about Russia doing. I've not seen the same response from the West in relation to Israel's attack on the sole safe route out of the area they want cleared.

It seems the West has settled for peace, but only on Israel's terms

Edit-  ok, there are two routes...but bombing half of them is bad fucking form

[adje]

Setting up a safe route and then (apparently) bombing it, is something the West was outraged about Russia doing. I've not seen the same response from the West in relation to Israel's attack on the sole safe route out of the area they want cleared.

It seems the West has settled for peace, but only on Israel's terms

Edit-  ok, there are two routes...but bombing half of them is bad fucking form

Agreed

[Nemo]

Will no doubt regret bumping this thread, but two by elections yesterday and the Tories lost both to Labour on enormous swings, including their 57th safest seat overall. General election night is going to be very fucking cathartic indeed, when they finally get round to it.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Tbh, I think Labour are winning by default - nobody in their right mind will vote Tory after the Boris years followed by Sunak.

I’ve come to the conclusion it matters not who votes for who - nothing gets better, just worse.

[Bob's Orange]

Will no doubt regret bumping this thread, but two by elections yesterday and the Tories lost both to Labour on enormous swings, including their 57th safest seat overall. General election night is going to be very fucking cathartic indeed, when they finally get round to it.

I think whoever is in power has an absolutely mammoth task ahead of them. Labour are clearly a shoe-in to win the next election but to me they hardly inspire confidence. The best I can say about them is that they are not tories.

The whole world appears to be a smoking gun, what with war in Ukraine, the middle east which is an absolute powder keg and horrendous political divisions between left and right becoming more vitriolic. Luckily I have a cracking local pub which is like my 'Winchester' where we can go until this all blows over.

[Nemo]

I have no expectation of the country under Labour immediately becoming Elysium, but it at least feels like they'd try and improve things a bit, which the current government seem to have entirely given up on in favour of just picking fights over moronic shit.

And the catharsis will be mostly watching some of the worst people in parliament lose their seats. I might make cunt top trumps for the occasion.

[Bob's Orange]

I have no expectation of the country under Labour immediately becoming Elysium, but it at least feels like they'd try and improve things a bit, which the current government seem to have entirely given up on in favour of just picking fights over moronic shit.

And the catharsis will be mostly watching some of the worst people in parliament lose their seats. I might make cunt top trumps for the occasion.

There are very few politicians in any of the parties that inspire me to be honest. I do think it is time for someone else to have a go and I'm in agreement with you, there are some people currently in power that have faces you wouldn't tire of punching. Our MP here is Heaton-Harris, he was on Question time last night, the first time I had seen him speak. He had the charisma of a dead trout.

[Mooneyraker]

Looking at the stats, the actually Labour vote didn't really increase since their defeats at the last GE. The Tory vote just didn't turn up. Not a great place for a democracy when someone comes into power due to mass apathy/sense of disenfranchisement.
Similarly, the SNP collapse will likely see Labour home I think.
So Labour will come into power not because they are Labour but because they are neither the Tories nor the SNP.