New beginnings - 25% Truth, 80% Bollocks

[Mooneyraker]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/p0gv732l

Lots of detail in here. He speaks well but it sounds like we own a chunk of risk.

[joeydubya]

I mean there has to be more than just this, right? This is the sort of thing that's on the smaller stage at a Uni May Ball.

[BenTheRed]

It's a bit square pegs and round holes isn't it? The proposed gigs are more suited to the legends lounge or the meca. It sort of makes no sense to have this on the pitch

[Nemo]

They would. If they play arenas they would. Some a lot smaller than o2/manchester 19k.

There's a few people in this thread who know a lot more than I do about this, but I understand the economics of indoor vs outdoor gigs are fairly different, not sure you can compare a purpose built concert venue of 15k or whatever with a football or cricket ground trying to hold a similar number.

[RobertT]

It's a bit square pegs and round holes isn't it? The proposed gigs are more suited to the legends lounge or the meca. It sort of makes no sense to have this on the pitch

I hope the idea is to make them into sort of mini festival style events, that you would otherwise have in an open field (Cricket grounds are often used because of this).  You need to bring in all the stuff around the outside though, like food trucks, toilet facilities 9I presume they open up the stands for this type of use as well), some fairground style attractions etc.  I would think they hope to do better than a field because they can leverage the corporate facilities as well, and sell premium tickets as a result.

I think it has legs.  I don't see it as a massive Revenue generator (basically 4/5k with the ticket prices being pitched, plus several hours of concession revenue, would just about match the revenue from a cup game), but it may be something incremental during a period where you can't get a decent friendly on.  It's a case of doing something in the wheel house of the CCO, who has run night club nights.

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

What was the last concerts that failed and lost money? Can anyone remember the acts?

[Mooneyraker]

What was the last concerts that failed and lost money? Can anyone remember the acts?

Peter Andre, Atomic Kitten, Blue.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-wiltshire-23487178

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

3k and lost money.


If you think these sell more than 3k you're living on another planet.

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

Wrexham allocated just under 3000 tickets for Boxing Day (2988)

[Nemo]

Wrexham allocated just under 3000 tickets for Boxing Day (2988)

How many hotel rooms in the Leonardo have they been given?

[RobertT]

Wrexham allocated just under 3000 tickets for Boxing Day (2988)

And for all the talk of music events, it's things like this that make money.

While I am all for pushing the envelope and seeing if we can gain new revenue from the "festival" approach, the real money to be made is getting at least two home friendlies against teams that can bring in crowds of 7k+.  Because none of the attendees will be on a season ticket, they generate far more incremental revenue.  The Wrexham game, despite the teeth gnashers, will make double most other games in terms of on the day type revenue.

[Mooneyraker]

And for all the talk of music events, it's things like this that make money.

While I am all for pushing the envelope and seeing if we can gain new revenue from the "festival" approach, the real money to be made is getting at least two home friendlies against teams that can bring in crowds of 7k+.  Because none of the attendees will be on a season ticket, they generate far more incremental revenue.  The Wrexham game, despite the teeth gnashers, will make double most other games in terms of on the day type revenue.

Almost like it is worth investing in getting out of this League...

[The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey]

We’d probably get 5 or 6 sell outs in L1.

[adje]

If they get Andy Partridge out of retirement, I'm in!

[ChalkyWhiteIsGod]

Putting the cart before the horse, isn't it?

Thought we were going to work on the stadium first before any of this is what Clem originally said? Makes me wonder if that will ever happen.

An actual competitive budget that afforded us a proper squad could have seen us in league one next year. Away followings with teams on the bank potentially 6 to 10 times depending on who goes up and down. Instead we're wasting putting money up for this that I'm pretty certain we won't make back.

Sort out the DRS executive boxes and town end with facilities out and our stadium would attract actual music acts like the slave traders do down the road.