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« Reply #6495 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:29:13 »

I’m sure that, he wonders what the hell he’s done. I’ve had the opportunity to talk to Clem many times, he comes across as a genuine guy.

What I believe has shocked him, is the constant questioning by ill informed, individuals. This has to having an effect on his health and personal life. At the end of the day, he has achieved success in his homeland. He doesn’t need constant shit from 10k miles away.

Perhaps, there is no story. Have you thought of that.

Last season, I was asked by someone why I didn’t invest in the club, all of the necessary funds to buy and run a club are readily available at short notice. A budget for MF was available without question.

The reason I haven’t done this is simple.  I was and I am still not prepared to accept the constant pressure, questioning and character assassination from supporters.

It’s not fair on the family and friends.

So whilst this is a good



Its football - some people will always make stuff up and others pick up on snippets of info and expand to what they think, then there are the genuine people that do know things and at times those things may not sound right so it conveniently gets leaked.

To run a football club you need to be able to take the sh1t when it's flying and then take the plaudits when they come your way.

Clem isn't media savy and it seems he has surrounded the club with people he knows who have been involved in his businesses previously, whether that is the right thing, only time will tell.

As he said there are accounts due in next few days, I'm sure people will scrutinise them.

I liked the bit about how he would like to have Rob Angus still involved in some form and they was looking at that, you would guess perhaps in some voluntary role or some role around stadium redevelopment, he is probably a good guy to have around the place.
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« Reply #6496 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:31:05 »

If you run a business properly and don't surround yourself with murky individuals that leave you open to such questions, it probably makes life a bit easier.
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« Reply #6497 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:32:40 »

Bathford is going to be our new owner

He needs to learn how to use the 'modify' and 'quote' functions first though  Wink Cheesy !
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« Reply #6498 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:33:32 »

Clem didn’t have a little black book of football contacts. He’s gone for people he knows rather than advertise for experienced football people he doesn’t know. Tbh, I’m not sure which way I’d go with the sharks that swim in football’s waters.

We can only hope they hit the ground running and get to grips with how things work.
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« Reply #6499 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:37:41 »

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« Reply #6500 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:37:59 »

I’m sure that, he wonders what the hell he’s done. I’ve had the opportunity to talk to Clem many times, he comes across as a genuine guy.

What I believe has shocked him, is the constant questioning by ill informed, individuals. This has to having an effect on his health and personal life. At the end of the day, he has achieved success in his homeland. He doesn’t need constant shit from 10k miles away.

Perhaps, there is no story. Have you thought of that.

Last season, I was asked by someone why I didn’t invest in the club, all of the necessary funds to buy and run a club are readily available at short notice. A budget for MF was available without question.

The reason I haven’t done this is simple.  I was and I am still not prepared to accept the constant pressure, questioning and character assassination from supporters.

It’s not fair on the family and friends.

So whilst this is a good


I personally feel our fanbase won't apply constant questioning and pressure should a good owner come along - that can be you Bathford (Please).

Under Fitton our fanbase seemed really united and I don't remember any fan pressure on them. Post-Black has been a continual cycle of issues and a completely clean slate and start with a Fitton-esque owner would unite the fan base I'd feel. Clem hasn't helped himself recently with the constant story changes and who he associates himself with.
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« Reply #6501 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:39:27 »

How many owners of a lower league football club had any experience of running one when they bought it?

Just hope that these shenanigans hit home to Clem that he - or his minions - need to get a grip on what needs to change to get the club running a bit more smoothly.

I think this is a good question and something I've banged on about before. When Wrexham got taken over, the first thing their owners did was recruit Shaun Harvey, who has a deep knowledge of the game and working for various clubs as well as the EFL itself. My personal opinion is that Clem should have done something similar. Rob Angus is all well and good, but he doesn't have the depth of knowledge of working in football, and neither does Anthony Hall.

To me, it doesn't feel like there is a coherent plan that Clem is following, as with his interview last night, a lot of it seems very 'suck it and see'. Last season felt a bit like that, recruiting Sandro, giving the job to Linsdey, then the whole Morris/Brand thing - it just didn't feel quite right. That plan was ripped up and to be fair to Clem, recruiting Flynn has been a masterstroke so far. I'm being really harsh but I'm not sure how much of that was down to luck rather than judgement. I just hope that now we seem to have hit upon a recipe that works, we run with it, and make sure everyone is pulling in the same direction.

FWIW, I like Clem and I really want it to work for him.
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« Reply #6502 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:40:27 »

Invest and take a back seat Bathford  Wink
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« Reply #6503 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:42:27 »

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I'm not giving you a lift to Colchester mind Wink
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« Reply #6504 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:48:23 »

Under Fitton our fanbase seemed really united and I don't remember any fan pressure on them. Post-Black has been a continual cycle of issues and a completely clean slate and start with a Fitton-esque owner would unite the fan base I'd feel. Clem hasn't helped himself recently with the constant story changes and who he associates himself with.

I think the unity under Fitton actually went back to before then to the unity to get shot of Diamond Mike, Fitton and co just went on to get an easier ride off the back of that, can you imagine the chaos that would ensue here now if one of Clem's associates were to be discovered benefiting personally from the sale of a player they recommended.

I honestly don't know how a large part of our fan base survived the seasons under Wills and Diamond Mike, the days refreshing the internet every 10 minor so to see if we had gone into admin or been taken over, when you compare to the uproar and pumping blood pressure on here nowadays about things its poles apart.
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« Reply #6505 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:49:26 »

a lot of it seems very 'suck it and see'.

I really can’t get the Arctic Monkeys out of my head now, thanks.
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« Reply #6506 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 09:59:10 »

I think the unity under Fitton actually went back to before then to the unity to get shot of Diamond Mike, Fitton and co just went on to get an easier ride off the back of that, can you imagine the chaos that would ensue here now if one of Clem's associates were to be discovered benefiting personally from the sale of a player they recommended.

I honestly don't know how a large part of our fan base survived the seasons under Wills and Diamond Mike, the days refreshing the internet every 10 minor so to see if we had gone into admin or been taken over, when you compare to the uproar and pumping blood pressure on here nowadays about things its poles apart.

The Fitton era may have had more money to throw at things - but they left us with that debenture - not good. At least Clem wants to put the club on a sustainable footing which can only be good - the Fitton era resulted in Power. Hopefully when Clem goes , if and when we are sustainable the club will be far more attractive a proposition for future owners. That's got to be the hope.
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« Reply #6507 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 10:01:59 »

I really can’t get the Arctic Monkeys out of my head now, thanks.
See thats where we differ, I have Linda Lovelace in my mind now!
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« Reply #6508 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 10:07:13 »

The Fitton era may have had more money to throw at things - but they left us with that debenture - not good. At least Clem wants to put the club on a sustainable footing which can only be good - the Fitton era resulted in Power. Hopefully when Clem goes , if and when we are sustainable the club will be far more attractive a proposition for future owners. That's got to be the hope.

From memory, Black left us with the debenture but no other debt - that may be wrong mind. If it weren't for the emergency fire sale element of that process, it really should have been the perfect time to take over the club.

As it was, we got Jed and co.
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« Reply #6509 on: Thursday, September 21, 2023, 10:10:40 »

If Power had paid Black his due after the sale of Matt Ritchie . . .

I’m sure in my own mind there’s no nefarious goings on backstage so it’s time to concentrate on supporting Flynn and the players on the pitch. We seem to have a chance of achieving something good this season.
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