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« Reply #13020 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 11:39:55 » |
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I'm excited for the next edition of the Fan Engagement Index. Because Clem promised we'd get to the number 1 spot in that...  |
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Peter Venkman
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« Reply #13022 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 11:47:35 » |
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Yes, but his voice adds some authority and reaches beyond the STFC bubble
Maguires last sentence is the more important one.
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Only a fool does not know when to hold his tongue.
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Legends-Lounge
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« Reply #13023 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 12:12:19 » |
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And despite this we still have 1,300 fans quite happily give Clem & Co their hard earned money ensuring they have the best part of half a million to end up god knows where 🤷♂️
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« Reply #13024 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 15:01:19 » |
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I respect anyone’s decision re renew or not renew.
Problem is would renewing just keep these scum bags in charge even longer
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Legends-Lounge
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Non PC straight talking tory Brexit voter on this
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« Reply #13025 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 16:06:49 » |
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I respect anyone’s decision re renew or not renew.
Problem is would renewing just keep these scum bags in charge even longer
Of course. |
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« Reply #13026 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 16:38:20 » |
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I respect anyone’s decision re renew or not renew.
Problem is would renewing just keep these scum bags in charge even longer
And here in lies the the problem, for me. The fans of clubs at our level provide well over 60% of the clubs revenue - they have enormous power, if they could only determine how to use it properly. Imagine being able to walk up to a bank, or other investment option, and suggest you have around 3m in income guaranteed for the next five years. Someone would likely lend you some cash against that. The Trust could, and should, be planning the next ownership model of STFC, right now. To do so, all they need is half the existing season ticket holder base to commit their monies for the next three to five years into a ring fenced fund designed to obtain equity in the business. As was shown in the months after Morfuni got control, the fans can be easily guilt tripped into spending more. The ultimate new ownership model does not need to be fully STFC fans financed, but they need leverage to be a part of the future model. Aiming for something like the German approach could be a possible goal. It may take a couple of years, but it's time to be doing it. They already have an asset on the books, 50% of the freehold and 90+ years of lease payments. As always, it's easy to sit on the sidelines and suggest such things though. Trickier to get the fans to come together for such a common goal, but if they realise they have the power, just maybe. |
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The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey
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« Reply #13027 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 18:20:44 » |
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I’ve given some thought on the German 50/50+1 model. It’s hard enough to find a buyer of a lower league club yet alone one who is willing to buy just 50% of one and that with the supporters having the golden 1%.
We will still need ongoing investment to progress and I can’t imagine many would be prepared to pump money into a business they only owe 50% of.
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Robinz
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« Reply #13028 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 19:45:14 » |
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Only Robert if only...
Your idea has merit if the club was up for sale with a willing seller at a sensible price.
Might be wrong but that is not going to happen.
That said, plans should be in place for when the fat lady starts to sing.
Your thoughts ?
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« Reply #13029 on: Saturday, May 18, 2024, 23:54:40 » |
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« Reply #13030 on: Monday, May 20, 2024, 09:37:22 » |
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I respect anyone’s decision re renew or not renew.
Problem is would renewing just keep these scum bags in charge even longer
This is dilemma that a number of us are facing. You'd think it would ramp up the pressure because of the cash flow issues associated with the off season. I'm currently "withholding" my renewal until i see some strategy/direction. Feel taken for granted so this feels like my most effective way of protesting |
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« Reply #13031 on: Monday, May 20, 2024, 09:39:06 » |
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« Reply #13032 on: Monday, May 20, 2024, 09:41:54 » |
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Wonder if this’ll be the week Gunning is announced Can you imagine? It's all so predictable. Some token efforts to get Adams and Brennan only to be told to jog on and then end up back where you started. |
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« Reply #13033 on: Monday, May 20, 2024, 09:49:54 » |
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Wonder if this’ll be the week Gunning is announced Was thinking about Lindsey and why he failed at STFC. A big reason was that it took so long to appoint him, he never seemed or was the first choice. If we went for him straight away and said that he was a brilliant coach under Garner and deserved a go at the top then that would have gone down a lot better than how it did... |
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« Reply #13034 on: Monday, May 20, 2024, 09:54:38 » |
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Was thinking about Lindsey and why he failed at STFC. A big reason was that it took so long to appoint him, he never seemed or was the first choice. If we went for him straight away and said that he was a brilliant coach under Garner and deserved a go at the top then that would have gone down a lot better than how it did...
Interesting tweet yesterday from Louis Reed's dad on Scott Lindsey. 'Amazing what a manager can achieve when he’s not told who to pick and who to drop 😉' |
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