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« Reply #135 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 08:10:06 » |
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I disagree JBZ,many of those families will have young children who could be the future generation of supprters
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« Reply #136 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 08:13:50 » |
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The two go hand in hand as Reading were averaging 5500-6000 before moving to their new stadium. Swindon has many new young families that have moved here and that's the ones you could attract if the stadium is modern Reading took 10 years and very deep pockets to get there though. It wasn't a quick thing. Swansea was impressive in their transformation. But they also had the rugby and a shed load of council help too
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« Reply #137 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 08:15:39 » |
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Fair point and don't forget Reading also had the Rugby money but no then sure what year that was introduced
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« Reply #138 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 08:40:07 » |
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I disagree JBZ,many of those families will have young children who could be the future generation of supprters
You may be right. Time will tell. Leaving aside the prior allegiances point and, speaking only from personal experience, it has been a challenge to maintain interest in lower league football in our household.
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« Reply #139 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 08:57:36 » |
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Not true. Planning permission was granted to build a new stand the same height as the DRS when the DRS was built, the club simply didn’t have the funds to build both. I’d imagine that planning permission should be a formality if they go with the angle that consent was given previously.
Not necessarily a formality as policy has shunted a fair bit in 30 years, but still achievable. The club actually royally fucked up by not making a technical start when they got the consent, especially after the ball ache of getting there in the first place.
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« Reply #140 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 09:02:10 » |
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You may be right. Time will tell. Leaving aside the prior allegiances point and, speaking only from personal experience, it has been a challenge to maintain interest in lower league football in our household.
I knew many new fans who went to the Exeter home game in Feb 2020 and were suddenly hooked until lockdown intervened so Imagine what the potential could be with a first class stadium
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« Reply #141 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:38:27 » |
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If Clem was given the go ahead to build it though why would he build a mundane one. He would surely want to build /renovate so he can showcase it
What he wants and what he can afford are likely to be completely different things. A ground in the middle of an industrial estate similar to Colchester, Shrewsbury or a council estate like Oxford with stands no better than the existing DRS is a massive step backwards IMO and just detach the club from supporters even more. Even a Colchester or Shrewsbury style ground is likely to cost between £10m and £20m at least, something more spectacular like Brighton would likely be double or treble the cost. He's not going to pay that showcase or no showcase! Also with our history I wouldn't fancy risking the build process of a new ground, if anything happens or anyone pulls out during the build process we could quite easy be stuck with a half finished ground or worse still homeless!
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« Reply #142 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:47:09 » |
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He's not going to pay that showcase or no showcase!
He's not?... How do we know that?
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« Reply #143 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:53:04 » |
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Lets be honest there are two areas of priority the bank and TE. Now the bank would be nice to improve facilities (and aesthetics) but doesn't really offer the 24/7/365 revenues stream the club desperately needs, where as the TE and space behind offer the best developmental possibilities.
No idea what cash Clem ha so not sure if anyone can comment on his capability, however, its also worth bearing in mind that to do the fundamental rebuild many are advocating we are probably looking at 12-18 months playing elsewhere.
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« Reply #144 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:54:58 » |
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Or build away from the CG and not have to look to play elsewhere?
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« Reply #145 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 12:58:31 » |
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Lets be honest there are two areas of priority the bank and TE. Now the bank would be nice to improve facilities (and aesthetics) but doesn't really offer the 24/7/365 revenues stream the club desperately needs, where as the TE and space behind offer the best developmental possibilities.
No idea what cash Clem ha so not sure if anyone can comment on his capability, however, its also worth bearing in mind that to do the fundamental rebuild many are advocating we are probably looking at 12-18 months playing elsewhere.
Stick a temp roof on the Bank - much like what Pompey have done with their away end. Move TE fans to the Bank. Rebuild the TE, move fans back then turn attention on the Bank.
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« Reply #146 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 13:08:06 » |
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Stick a temp roof on the Bank - much like what Pompey have done with their away end.
Move TE fans to the Bank. Rebuild the TE, move fans back then turn attention on the Bank.
If you are going piecemeal even simpler than that. The TE only sits 1,846 with the crowds we get these could easily be accommodated within the DRS/Arkels (for a start the 1400 away in Arkels could be reclaimed) whilst the work is being done, no need to piss cash up the wall to put a roof on the SB if its just for away supporters for 12 months.
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« Reply #147 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 13:08:17 » |
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Stick a temp roof on the Bank - much like what Pompey have done with their away end.
Move TE fans to the Bank. Rebuild the TE, move fans back then turn attention on the Bank.
That was always the plan back in the 90s in exactly that order, but things happened and funding was applied for and never actually finalised. They tried again in the early 00's too, the temp roof would have only cost about £250k I think but the then owner coudlnt raise the funds so again was thrown on the back burner. If you are going piecemeal even simpler than that. The TE only sits 1,846 with the crowds we get these could easily be accommodated within the DRS/Arkels (for a start the 1400 away in Arkels could be reclaimed) whilst the work is being done, no need to piss cash up the wall to put a roof on the SB if its just for away supporters for 12 months.
In L2 that is a better option but at the previous 2 times we were in the Championship (equivalent) and top half of L1 so needed the extra capacity for the 3 or 4 big games we had each season. In this league not an issue at all.
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« Reply #148 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 13:10:30 » |
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If you are going piecemeal even simpler than that. The TE only sits 1,846 with the crowds we get these could easily be accommodated within the DRS/Arkels (for a start the 1400 away in Arkels could be reclaimed) whilst the work is being done, no need to piss cash up the wall to put a roof on the SB if its just for away supporters for 12 months.
Would the EFL sanction not giving any seats at all for away fans? If yes, then that’s the way to go.
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« Reply #149 on: Tuesday, June 1, 2021, 13:15:11 » |
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Would the EFL sanction not giving any seats at all for away fans? If yes, then that’s the way to go.
Bank's covered in seats!
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