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Oxford lose to Pompey in the play off semis - 11 (23.4%)
Oxford beat Pompey, lose the final in heartbreaking fashion - 16 (34%)
Don't care - 20 (42.6%)
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« Reply #15 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:33:39 »

In some respects, I would take a couple of seasons of hoof ball and 'shithousery' if that yielded a change in fortunes.
For me its a no, a little hoof and a little shithousery I can accept but not a full 90 mins of it every game.
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« Reply #16 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:36:08 »

In some respects, I would take a couple of seasons of hoof ball and 'shithousery' if that yielded a change in fortunes.

I assume most people would if I got us back into the 2nd tier, itís ultimately a results business.

Entertainment is nice but I doubt Wycombe fans have any complaints about their style right now
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« Reply #17 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:37:32 »

I assume most people would if I got us back into the 2nd tier, itís ultimately a results business.

Entertainment is nice but I doubt Wycombe fans have any complaints about their style right now
Going by their forum they seem totally oblivious of it and just relishing in the promotion.
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« Reply #18 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:44:20 »

Going by their forum they seem totally oblivious of it and just relishing in the promotion.

If Swindon got promoted to The Championship and within the first 12 hours somebody was on TEF saying 'well we'll probably go down next year unless with do this and that' then I'd be pushing for a short-term forum ban...!

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« Reply #19 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:45:54 »

Going by their forum they seem totally oblivious of it and just relishing in the promotion.

Good to hear, Iím pleased for them

They had the FA Cup semi a few years back but their fans must be in dreamland. Canít be much more than 20 years ago they got into the FL, with all levels of the game becoming more dependent on your finances itís good to see a side like that making the 2nd tier.
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« Reply #20 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:45:59 »

Winning > Performance

Iíd take 10 years of hoofball and shithousery if it meant we dominated football like Liverpool in the 80s, Manchester United in the 90s...
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« Reply #21 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:46:37 »

Going on the screams of FFFOOOOORRRWWWAAAAARRRDDD from large sections of the county ground, hoofball is attractive to many punters.
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« Reply #22 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:47:12 »

If Swindon got promoted to The Championship and within the first 12 hours somebody was on TEF saying 'well we'll probably go down next year unless with do this and that' then I'd be pushing for a short-term forum ban...!


I can think of a few candidates already.
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« Reply #23 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:50:24 »

If Swindon got promoted to The Championship and within the first 12 hours somebody was on TEF saying 'well we'll probably go down next year unless with do this and that' then I'd be pushing for a short-term forum ban...!

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Oh absolutely, but they seem totally oblivious to their own style of play, the lack of entertainment is far less important than results, which I can understand, but to bury your heads in the sand as to how you have achieved it I just don't understand.

When Sky put the ranking up for total passes, passes completed, short passes, possession in games, 10+ pass sequence....over the season Oxford were 1st on every stat and Wycombe 23rd on every stat, only Bolton were below them.

Yet here we are! Cheesy

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« Reply #24 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 10:57:51 »

I suppose the trite observation is that you don't get points for passes completed etc.
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« Reply #25 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 11:17:53 »

I suppose the trite observation is that you don't get points for passes completed etc.
Indeed you do not.
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« Reply #26 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 12:21:06 »

What sort of stat is Width per Passing Sequence??

Stats are unreliable because you can take the same data and manipulate it to your own gain.
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« Reply #27 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 12:30:39 »

What sort of stat is Width per Passing Sequence??

Stats are unreliable because you can take the same data and manipulate it to your own gain.
NFI!

Sounds made up to manipulate figures as you rightly point out.
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« Reply #28 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 12:48:52 »

What sort of stat is Width per Passing Sequence??

Stats are unreliable because you can take the same data and manipulate it to your own gain.
It's the distance between the left-most and right-most point in any given sequence of passes. It's used to measure how teams try to open up the opposition within a passing sequence and differentiates between a 5-pass sequence where you ping it around in little 5 yard triangles but don't really switch the point of attack vs a 5-pass sequence that switches from left to right and back again for example where you're possibly more likely to open a side up. But as a stat on it's own without context it doesn't really serve much purpose. I suppose the contrast would indicate that Wycombe are more direct than Oxford.
https://www.optasports.com/news/opta-s-event-definitions/
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« Reply #29 on: Tuesday, July 14, 2020, 13:03:07 »

I suppose the trite observation is that you don't get points for passes completed etc.

If only Luke Williams had cottoned on..
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