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[Qunk]

I have no issue at all with the US reducing the likelihood of Iran developing nuclear weapons. They have enriched uranium well beyond the threshold needed for a purely peaceful nuclear program.

What Trump has done could, of course, have consequences related to greater Middle East unrest (or it could galvanise Iran’s population to rise up against an increasingly weak looking Ayatollah), but the alternative is to allow Iran to own nukes. Rock and a hard place, but overall I’d rather Iran remained a non-nuclear country. I think the decision would have been different if there was any real chance of Russia or China launching theirs, but the likelihood is close to zero. So if anything we are now further from the prospect of nuclear war.

[Audrey]

I think the fact that no other Middle Eastern country has expressed outrage points to the fact they don’t want a nuclear Iran either.

Of course, with the US track record in Iraq fresh in the mind, you can’t be 100% certain Iran had a nuclear capability.

WMDs anyone?

[Tails]

I think the fact that no other Middle Eastern country has expressed outrage points to the fact they don’t want a nuclear Iran either.

Of course, with the US track record in Iraq fresh in the mind, you can’t be 100% certain Iran had a nuclear capability.

WMDs anyone?

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Jordan, Egypt have all had run ins with Iran recently and will all be sighing a breath of relief that it was Israel and US that got them first.

[Qunk]

I think the fact that no other Middle Eastern country has expressed outrage points to the fact they don’t want a nuclear Iran either.

Of course, with the US track record in Iraq fresh in the mind, you can’t be 100% certain Iran had a nuclear capability.

WMDs anyone?

Difference is the quality of evidence and who it’s accepted by. The argument that Iraq had WMD’s was never more than spurious at best, and we now know that it was pretty much an outright lie. Iran having enriched uranium well beyond what you need for a peaceful nuclear program, however, is widely accepted (by the IAEA, for example, which is independent). Concluding they want and could conceivably manufacture a nuke is therefore completely valid.

The lack of international outrage is definitely interesting. China have complained a bit but no more than that. Russia are too weak to do anything so who cares what they think or say.

[Nemo]

The Western view of Islam tends to rather miss that the majority Sunni and majority Shia countries (headed by Iran and Saudi) get on about as well as Catholic and Protestant Europe did in Europe for a long time...

[Qunk]

Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Bahrain, UAE, Jordan, Egypt have all had run ins with Iran recently and will all be sighing a breath of relief that it was Israel and US that got them first.

You can add Pakistan to that list.

[Audrey]

Putin’s response was curious seeing as they’re best buddies with Iran.

Israel has 2 million Russian speakers and is, essentially, a special case.

[Jimmy Quinn]

Just an observation that when a new conflict starts the ongoing ones in main stream media seem to go quiet!

[Qunk]

Putin’s response was curious seeing as they’re best buddies with Iran.

Israel has 2 million Russian speakers and is, essentially, a special case.

And now that Assad is gone Iran is Russia’s only serious, strategically aligned ally left in the Middle East, which makes Putin’s silence all the more deafening.

[4D]

Just a matter of time. World population is exploding, World is a smaller place and humans have a habit of fucking each other up. Just enjoy your time. Fixture list out Thursday 

[Qunk]

Something else interesting I’ve noticed is that the only Republicans that seem to disagree with the attacks last night are the distinctly MAGA crowd, like Steve Bannon and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

[Audrey]

Shit has hit the fan now Iran has launched against a US base in Qatar

[No Longer Posh Red]

Shit has hit the fan now Iran has launched against a US base in Qatar

Looks like a symbolic action, on the basis they pre-warned Qatar (and therefore the US) before they launched.

That said, you can never tell what the Orangeman’s reaction is going to be

[Batch]

Shit has hit the fan now Iran has launched against a US base in Qatar

FFS. Another country brought into it.

[4D]

Go and get the Qatar Guitar?



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