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« Reply #5985 on: Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 19:03:34 »

Paul Ince did it just off the title. PDC and Ince are bigger names though and that does make a difference. I donít think any champ or prem fans could name our manager.

I'll throw Dennis Wise and Gus Poyet into that mix too. While not Prem it was a quick rise to Leeds and Poyet obviously went onto the Prem managing Sunderland. Had the "whatever went on" at Brighton not happened, I think he would've taken them to the Prem at that time. We could easily (although not Town) add Lampard and Gerrard into the "advancing quicker than is organic" category.
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« Reply #5986 on: Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 19:04:47 »

To be fair, Iím surprised we even attracted McDonald and Cooper given the Ďdream teamí we had at the helm!



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« Reply #5987 on: Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 19:20:45 »

Wonder how Murrall is getting on these days
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« Reply #5988 on: Wednesday, February 26, 2020, 23:10:40 »

I didnít realise he received such a hefty sentence (handed 8 years in 2017) so he will no doubt be enjoying his stretch! I wonder whether Jed has paid him a visit to plot which club will be their next victim upon his release...
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« Reply #5989 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 11:37:53 »

Liverpool U23s coach Neil Critchley (of Shrewsbury replay fame) gets the Blackpool job
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« Reply #5990 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 11:55:12 »

Liverpool U23s coach Neil Critchley (of Shrewsbury replay fame) gets the Blackpool job
Big gamble for Blackpool that.
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« Reply #5991 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:26:50 »

Big gamble for Blackpool that.
Even bigger gamble for Neil Critchley!
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« Reply #5992 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 12:58:13 »

Even bigger gamble for Neil Critchley!
Yeah thats true, I expect Liverpool were paying him quite well with little expectation to get results at that level, from very cushy job to a very uncushy job.
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« Reply #5993 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 13:27:33 »

Yeah thats true, I expect Liverpool were paying him quite well with little expectation to get results at that level, from very cushy job to a very uncushy job.
Hmm, not sure about that. I'd imagine Liverpool very definitely expected him to achieve against the targets he was set, just that the "results" would be in terms of players coming through into the first team group, rather than in individual matches. Certainly much more high profile public pressure as a first team manager though
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« Reply #5994 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 13:29:04 »

Liverpool U23s coach Neil Critchley (of Shrewsbury replay fame) gets the Blackpool job
Pity. I was hoping Robinson would get it to put that lot up the road into meltdown mode.
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« Reply #5995 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 15:35:40 »

Hmm, not sure about that. I'd imagine Liverpool very definitely expected him to achieve against the targets he was set, just that the "results" would be in terms of players coming through into the first team group, rather than in individual matches. Certainly much more high profile public pressure as a first team manager though
Yes I mean the pressure to get results in the league where huge amounts of money can be gained and lost with 1 poor season, look at Luke Williams in his season with us. The relegation season according to Power cost us about £3m in revenue.

That is enough to cripple a club in our division for several years.

If at Liverpool he failed to bring through 1 or 2 prospects to being close to the first team then his job would not be on the line, also at Liverpool he has the cushion of the rest of the coaching staff to use and have their thoughts. I doubt that cirlce will be as big at Blackpool as it was at Liverpool with their wealth of experience in backroom staff.
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    JŁrgen Klopp - Manager

    Pepijn Lijnders - First Team Development Coach
    Peter Krawietz - Second Assistant Coach
    John Achterberg - First Team Goalkeeping Coach
    Dave Fallows - Head of Recruitment
    Barry Hunter - Chief Scout
    Michael Edwards - Director of Technical Performance
    Alex Inglethorpe - Under 21s Manager
    Matt Konopinski - Physiotherapist
    Paul Small - Masseur
    Sylvan Richardson - Masseur
    Graham Carter - Kit Manager
    Jordan Milsom - Rehab Fitness Coach
    Barry Drust - Sports Science Consultant
    James Morton - Consultant Nutritionist
    David Rydings - Strength and Rehabilitation Assistant
    Paolo Barreira - Physiotherapist
    Pedro Philippou - Sports therapist
    Andreas Kornmeyer - Head of Fitness/Conditioning
    Phil Roscoe - Assistant Academy Manager
    Tim Jenkins - Head of Development Analysis Academy
    Neil Critchley - U18's Manager
    Joe Lewis - Sports Therapist
    Andy O'Boyle - Head of Fitness - U21
    Andy Renshaw - Head Academy Physiotherapist
    Mark Morris - U21 Goalkeeping Coach
    Richie Partridge - U21 Physiotherapist
    Dave Moss - Academy Chief Scout
    Matthew Newberry - Senior Academy Scout
    Remy Tang - U18's Fitness Coach
    Liam Kershaw - U18 Academy Phyiotherapist
    Mike Garrity - Head of U6-U11
    Gary Lewis - Head of U12-U14
    Michael Beale - Head of U15-U16
    Clive Cook - Education and Welfare Officer
    Oliver Morgan - Assistant Academy Sporst Scientist
    Ian Barrigan - Head of Local Recruitment
    Kyle Wallbanks - U18s Performance Analyst
    Scott Mason - U15-U16 Performance Analyst

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Goalkeeper Coach: Steve Banks.
Head of Sports Science: Ross Jones.
Physio: Phil Horner.
Kitman: John Gee.
First-Team Analyst: Nathan Salmon.
Head of Recruitment: Tommy Johnson.
Head of Technical Scouting: Jonathan Gibson.

Yes I know they are only at the end of a phone if he needs their advice but they are not at training sessions watching players or at games seeing how the players perform which the staff at Liverpool would be if needed.

I am sure hes a great youth coach/manager but its a massive step up from Premier league U23 football to managing league clubs, I would think the list of failures far far outweighs the successes, just look at Swindon....Luke Williams, Kevin macDonald and Maurice malpas (yes he had 1 year at Motherwell but was essentially an U21 coach) then you look at others like Dermot Drummy, who had great careers coaching youngsters but struggled with the pressures of league management.

I still think the pressure of managing Blackpool will be way more than managing Liverpool U23s.

Massive learning curve for him and a culture shock too, still it may well work for him, fair play to Blackpool for taking the gamble and not just going for a tried and tested "jobbing" manager like Robinson.
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« Reply #5996 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 15:37:03 »

Yeah, good point, well made. Although I think your Liverpool staff list is out of date, still has Critchely as U18s manager Smiley
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« Reply #5997 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 15:45:24 »

Yeah, good point, well made. Although I think your Liverpool staff list is out of date, still has Critchely as U18s manager Smiley
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I think you cannot underestimate the Jewell effect with Wellens, having him there available and watching games to ask for help is invaluable.
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« Reply #5998 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 15:47:06 »

No wonder the pitch looked so crowded in the warm up for the pre season friendly with them a few years back.

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« Reply #5999 on: Monday, March 2, 2020, 15:52:01 »

Cheesy

I think you cannot underestimate the Jewell effect with Wellens, having him there available and watching games to ask for help is invaluable.
Think you're spot on there. Equally I think Wellens has alluded to the fact that both Hunt and Wright aren't just there to hand out the bibs and pick up the cones
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