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« Reply #375 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 18:38:48 » |
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It's not just the immigrant who suffers in in his poxy little shop though is it? Take Croydon and the furniture store that had been in the family for 5 generations...destroyed. Not to mention all the law abiding non-immigrants who live in the "newly, culturally enriched" broughs that suffer. And by the way, a majority of those rioting in London and other major urban areas are very likely the offspring of immigrants, as evidenced by the locations in which the riots are taking place and the photo's and film all over the media.
So much for the ideaology of multiculturalism and the whole socialist thought process that promoted it, eh?
The general point i was trying to make is that the excuse is....we are poor,we have no money,blah blah blah. So were the people who run a lot of those shops but they got off there big fat asses and work 80/90 hours a week to earn a living...
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« Reply #376 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 18:39:10 » |
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So are we now blaming this on immigration Ironside?
Not at all. Just like earlier in the thread "environment" was thrown up as THE cause by some posters. I can't help thinking that it has had an influence on the situation though.
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« Reply #377 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 18:44:26 » |
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The general point i was trying to make is that the excuse is....we are poor,we have no money,blah blah blah.
So were the people who run a lot of those shops but they got off there big fat asses and work 80/90 hours a week to earn a living...
A fair point but why single out a johnny as the victims when they have been victims alongside everyone else gets off their arse and works for a living? The fact is that this all stemmed from the shooting by police of a criminal scumbag, who was an immigrant/offspring of an immigrant and led to lots off immigrants/offspring of immigrants behaving like total and utter cunts. It's fair to say that I've had a few aperatifs and I'm not blaming immigration or immigrants as the cause of the whole thing but as stated in reply to R4E's question, if you think it hasn't had an influence on the whole situation then you are wrong. Edit: Just like the environment arguement put forward earlier in the thread.
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
Was it me? It can't have been an interesting enough event for me to remember - fB.
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« Reply #378 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 18:45:23 » |
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A fair point but why single out a johnny as the victims when they have been victims alongside everyone else gets off their arse and works for a living?
The fact is that this all stemmed from the shooting by police of a criminal scumbag, who was an immigrant/offspring of an immigrant and led to lots off immigrants/offspring of immigrants behaving like total and utter cunts. It's fair to say that I've had a few aperatifs and I'm not blaming immigration or immigrants as the cause of the whole thing but as stated in reply to R4E's question, if you think it hasn't had an influence on the whole situation then you are wrong.
You are a dick.
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« Reply #379 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 18:47:10 » |
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You are a dick.
You are a cunt. Expalin please?
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Genius, Gentleman Explorer, French Cabaret Chantoose and Small Bets Placed and someone who knows who they are changed my signature but its only know that I can be arsed to change it....and I mean all the spelling mistakes.
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« Reply #380 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:34:31 » |
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You're obviously a racist/xenophobe and you aren't very good at covering it up.
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« Reply #381 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:41:45 » |
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Disagree with most on here but just heard (a rumour) that Enfield residents have gathered and are marching against the rioters, with police escorts. This is kind of heart warming but could be disastrous (if true).
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« Reply #382 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:43:34 » |
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Also heard (a rumour) that the Muslim community stood and denied entry to the scrotes that wanted to riot in Aston.
Similar story last night with the Turks and some part of London.
Good on 'em.
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« Reply #383 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:43:44 » |
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You're obviously a racist/xenophobe and you aren't very good at covering it up.
See, this is what I don't understand. I'm not a racist but you'd have to be fucking blind not to see that the majority of those rioting are black. Does that make me a racist? 26 pages of utter bollocks.
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« Reply #384 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:44:57 » |
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See, this is what I don't understand. I'm not a racist but you'd have to be fucking blind not to see that the majority of those rioting are black. Does that make me a racist?
26 pages of utter bollocks.
It's just the way he speaks about it all. You can tell.
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« Reply #385 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:46:30 » |
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Yea Turks and Kurds I heard last night were fending their territory. Nice to see communities standing their ground.
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« Reply #386 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:47:25 » |
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It's just the way he speaks about it all. You can tell.
I'd agree with that. Nothing to do with immigration in my mind. I'd argue it has more to do with class. This means that i'm not a racist just a snob
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« Reply #387 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:48:21 » |
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I can understand people's frustration though. As soon as race is mentioned as a factor, accusations of racism aren't far behind.
The fact is that most of the rioters are black. The violence is being caused predominantly by blacks as is the damage.
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« Reply #388 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:49:40 » |
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I'd agree with that. Nothing to do with immigration in my mind. I'd argue it has more to do with class. This means that i'm not a racist just a snob
More to do with race than class. And anyone who can't see that is a major factor has their head in the sand.
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« Reply #389 on: Tuesday, August 9, 2011, 19:50:57 » |
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I can understand people's frustration though. As soon as race is mentioned as a factor, accusations of racism aren't far behind.
The fact is that most of the rioters are black. The violence is being caused predominantly by blacks as is the damage.
I'd agree that a lot of the people probably are black or other ethnicities but there are lots of white ones to. But again lots of working class people are minorities. I suppose its a whole chicken and egg thing, each to their own to decide what came first
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