Tax

[tans]

I better not be one of the people that get a letter saying I underpaid.

Those cunts fucked up, why should we be penalized. They should write it off as their mistake.

[Arriba]

i talk to people who are self employed and pay very little tax or national insurance.
they get away with it whilst i'm docked around £800 a month to the fucking government

[leefer]

i talk to people who are self employed and pay very little tax or national insurance.
they get away with it whilst i'm docked around £800 a month to the fucking government

And thats before Council Tax.

[tans]

And up to 12m of taxpayers money is to be used for a visit by the pope.

The pope for fuck sake!

In the notw today there was a family on 95k a year benefits.

Scrounging cunts

[pumbaa]

i talk to people who are self employed and pay very little tax or national insurance.

This is what the new coalition government should be taking a very close look at. There are too many loopholes in the tax system that those who 'have' exploit at will. I'm not for a minute suggesting all self-employed people flout the system, but a number do.

[Simon Pieman]

Self employed people do pay less NI, but they get less entitlement to benefits as a result.

Obviously self employed people and subbies take cash in hand but there's nothing from stopping you doing a bit of cash in hand work if you want to (and sail very close to the wind as a result).

[Bennett]

Those cunts fucked up, why should we be penalized. They should write it off as their mistake.

whilst i agree we're not responsible for their error i can't help but think with the figures quoted we'd only end up paying it through higher taxes anyway love

[Batch]

Did they fuck up, or have they just found better ways of detecting some employers fucked up the P60/P45s?

Either way I bet I owe money somehow.

[Simon Pieman]

Some people overpaid too, so you could be due a rebate if you're lucky.

[iffy]

This is what the new coalition government should be taking a very close look at. There are too many loopholes in the tax system that those who 'have' exploit at will. I'm not for a minute suggesting all self-employed people flout the system, but a number do.

The tax system is (or should be) designed to encourage things that are good for the economy.
Self-employed people, are in general creating employment, for themselves and others. This is good for the economy. It's not a 'scam'. It's a balance of risk and reward.
If self-employed people aren't successful enough, they don't get paid. It's pretty simple. You can have the security of a paycheck, or the risk of self employment, but no-one's forcing you to do either.

[Coca Fola]

Unrelated, but I did some work in October(first job) and I never recieved a P45 but still had £50 odd taken off. I went to the tax office and told them about it and they said it was illegal for them to do that. So am I entitled to something? 

[Simon Pieman]

Did you move to another job afterwards?

[pumbaa]

The tax system is (or should be) designed to encourage things that are good for the economy.
Self-employed people, are in general creating employment, for themselves and others. This is good for the economy. It's not a 'scam'. It's a balance of risk and reward.
If self-employed people aren't successful enough, they don't get paid. It's pretty simple. You can have the security of a paycheck, or the risk of self employment, but no-one's forcing you to do either.

Fully agree. However that wasn't what I was getting at. I'm referring to people like my sister-in-law, who owns and runs her own accountancy firm and brags quite openly that she has never paid any tax for years. Hence why she can afford a nice detatched house in the countryside, a new car every two years and lots of foreign holidays.

I'm not for a minute suggesting she is being dishonest, nor the vast majority of self-employed people earning themselves a living. But there are a number exploiting loopholes in the system to avoid paying tax, and its this that the government (certainly the Tories) promised to investigate as part of their manifesto.

[Coca Fola]

Did you move to another job afterwards?

No

[STFCBird]

Some people overpaid too, so you could be due a rebate if you're lucky.

I am not I will have to pay