Veggie Advice

[pauld]

So, to cut a long story short, where are you going on Friday Fred?

Best off just taking her to the chippy after all this.

[Fred Elliot]

So, to cut a long story short, where are you going on Friday Fred?

La Carbonara mate


I am going to have a fillet steak and Nicky is going to have a veggie penne

[Ginginho]

La Carbonara mate


I am going to have a fillet steak and Nicky is going to have a veggie penne

Ooh, a fillet steak?
Are you aware of the perils of red meat?






(sorry)

Have a great night

[Fred Elliot]

 

[Simon Pieman]

si pie.there isn't any nutrient i know of you get from meat, that you cannot get from other sources.

Some B Vitamins
Dietary cholesterol
Calcium - Not abundent in plants

Probably more, I'm not really in the mood for hunting on the internet.

[Barry Scott]

La Carbonara mate


I am going to have a fillet steak and Nicky is going to have a veggie penne

Get Parma Ham wrapped Scallops for a starter as well, it's fucking sexy. Seriously. Oh and the Barramundi and the Risotto Scoglio are super nice main courses, you could suggest, if she eats fish.

[Simon Pieman]

Who's up for going to La Carbonara on Friday? We could do a party booking!

[Samdy Gray]

Oh and the Barramundi and the Risotto Scoglio are super nice main courses, you could suggest, if she eats fish.

I had this, it's fucking lush.

[Fred Elliot]

if she eats fish.

she doesn't








she is vegetarian






oh .............

[Arriba]

Some B Vitamins
Dietary cholesterol
Calcium - Not abundent in plants

Probably more, I'm not really in the mood for hunting on the internet.

calcium is in green veg and soya milk.
and i think the b vitamin would be b-12 which is also in soya and root veg.
i have no idea about dietry cholesterol?

[pauld]

Just to throw some more fuel on the fire, the argument we've been eating meat for 2.5m years is not all it might seem. Quite apart from being utterly unprovable, for the vast majority of the human population post the hunter gatherer phase, meat was the preserve of the wealthy elite. Right up until the late 19th/early 20th century in the west and well into the 20th century for much of the rest of the world, the staples for the peasant/working population (ie most of us) was not meat, but grain/vegetable based. With some fish in coastal areas and chinese restaurants.

It was only the advent of industrialisation and mass production of everything that made meat affordable as a regular part of the Western diet. So it's only actually been a staple for 100 years or so. Until 1798, the entire population of England had to share four turnips and some mud between them. Apart from the posh gits who feasted on swans roasted in bears stuffed into a peacock

[Talk Talk]

Just to throw some more fuel on the fire, the argument we've been eating meat for 2.5m years is not all it might seem. Quite apart from being utterly unprovable, for the vast majority of the human population post the hunter gatherer phase, meat was the preserve of the wealthy elite. Right up until the late 19th/early 20th century in the west and well into the 20th century for much of the rest of the world, the staples for the peasant/working population (ie most of us) was not meat, but grain/vegetable based. With some fish in coastal areas and chinese restaurants.

It was only the advent of industrialisation and mass production of everything that made meat affordable as a regular part of the Western diet. So it's only actually been a staple for 100 years or so. Until 1798, the entire population of England had to share four turnips and some mud between them. Apart from the posh gits who feasted on swans roasted in bears stuffed into a peacock

Oh for fuck's sake Paul, you're worse than Pravda.

"or the vast majority of the human population post the hunter gatherer phase"

The 'hunter gatherer phase' lasted for hundreds of thousands of years as opposed to a couple of thousand years when kings and governments (along with all of their hangers on) decided that they could fuck up the lives of the people who didn't need them and make them so poor that they could no longer afford meat.

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=W-CHDb3ntRAC&pg=PA14&lpg=PA14&dq=human+hunter+gatherer+phase&source=bl&ots=JMjJl4Eib3&sig=rBvzoxBjSgVkZold06eCXNuY74Y&hl=en&ei=IILCSqt_yIfhBsjB7agF&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1#v=onepage&q=human%20hunter%20gatherer%20phase&f=false

[larwood]

I've never eated turnip before.Whats it like?

I've been veggie for five years.Never had any problems with my health,eating out in resturants in the UK and meat eaters.Hope you have a good time Friday Fred 

[Barry Scott]

I had this, it's fucking lush.

Tell me about it. I want some now. I almost didn't have it as i ate it at L'aurora before it closed down and it was fucking disgusting. Which is probably why it closed down. Like the disgusting Chinese before it. It's probably why it's now become a strip club full of disgusting women. Urgh.

Did i catch a bite Fred? I don't think i did, but my subtle fishing techniques are improving of late.

[pauld]

Oh for fuck's sake Paul, you're worse than Pravda.

Eh? Thought you'd had your last word. Come back for more bollocks I see.

"or the vast majority of the human population post the hunter gatherer phase"

The 'hunter gatherer phase' lasted for hundreds of thousands of years as opposed to a couple of thousand years when kings and governments (along with all of their hangers on) decided that they could fuck up the lives of the people who didn't need them and make them so poor that they could no longer afford meat.

And? We should go back to hunter gathering because it's more "natural"? No more nutty than the rest of your anarcho-capitalist stuff I suppose, although I thought that was more the Green Anarchist lot.

Organised societies based on largely agrarian food production have been around for more like 10,000 years +, FWIW, but none of that matters - as I said earlier, the whole attempt to base what is a largely ethical argument around the early origins of our cave dwelling (or early peasant) ancestors is just a spurious attempt to introduce historical "facts" which can be argued either way into a largely ethical argument.