Retards who cant shut or open car doors properly

[Peter Venkman]

I put my hazards on when I am going to turn just to fuck people up

That would have its desired effect Fred!

[Ginginho]

Get back in the loser lane loser!

On Nevs point, I took the Institute of Advanced Motorists driving course in Devizes in 1985 when run by the Wiltshire constabulary as my brother in law was the then Police instructor for defensive driving techniques.

I was taught to not indicate when turning if it will not affect any other road user OR pedestrians, so if there is no one around after surveying the turn or manoeuvre whether in a car or on foot that will be affected by your actions then there is no need to indicate....even though through force of habit as Ginghino say I still do.

That still seems a bit pointless though, surely it's just easier to indicate regardless, otherwise you have check all around you to see if there are any cars or pedestrians will be affected by your actions, just so you don't have to bother indicating.

[Jamiesfuturewife]

I put my hazards on when I am going to turn just to fuck people up

OMG thats SO funny 

[DV]

That still seems a bit pointless though, surely it's just easier to indicate regardless, otherwise you have check all around you to see if there are any cars or pedestrians will be affected by your actions, just so you don't have to bother indicating.

Isnt that better because then you check all around you before you turn/move etc.

If you just get into the habbit of indicating and then turning then all it takes is one impatient fucker or some idiot on the road to do something wrong.

Ok, it would be his fault and he'd be in the wrong but you might have seen it had to looked around you rather than just indiciating out of habbit?

Its very rarely I do motorway driving and I spent alot of time in the middle lane because I'm generally going faster than the inside lane. I then get annoyed when there are people right up my arse when the outside lane is there! use that!!

[Ginginho]

Isnt that better because then you check all around you before you turn/move etc.

If you just get into the habbit of indicating and then turning then all it takes is one impatient fucker or some idiot on the road to do something wrong.

Ok, it would be his fault and he'd be in the wrong but you might have seen it had to looked around you rather than just indiciating out of habbit?

Its very rarely I do motorway driving and I spent alot of time in the middle lane because I'm generally going faster than the inside lane. I then get annoyed when there are people right up my arse when the outside lane is there! use that!!

I do always check before I indicate & turn, I don't just indicate and turn regardless, but I was just trying to make a point as to why they would teach you not to bother indicating, surely it's just better to indicate at all times anyway.

With regard to motorway driving, I agree with you, I spend most of my time in the middle lane, because i'm overtaking slow bastards, lorries, caravans, etc. But when the motorway is quiet i'll stick to the left hand lane as much as possible.

[BANGKOK RED]

Didn't somebody on here say something about him not being a particularly nice person.

In which case, fuck him.

[Barry Scott]

Even if it's only for a few moments, you should always move over imo. I don't think the outside lane being free is any excuse to be trundling along in the middle lane when you can move in. The car coming up to overtake could have someone about to overtake him. But because someone's sat in the middle lane, they move to the outside lane, and cause the other driver to break. He could also have someone behind him at around the same speed, causing him and possibly further drivers to also break. This chain reaction can very quickly turn into a phantom tail back and cause traffic problems.

It's simple etiquette in my mind. Moving over, even for a short time to let someone past, is courtesy. The middle lane and the outside lane are for overtaking, so once you've overtaken move in. You don't cruise towards potential on coming traffic in the right lane of a country road because you can see a slow car ahead. Overtaking is overtaking regardless of the road.

As you can probably tell, this gets my knickers in a right twist.

[The Grim Reaper]

Even if it's only for a few moments, you should always move over imo. I don't think the outside lane being free is any excuse to be trundling along in the middle lane when you can move in. The car coming up to overtake could have someone about to overtake him. But because someone's sat in the middle lane, they move to the outside lane, and cause the other driver to break. He could also have someone behind him at around the same speed, causing him and possibly further drivers to also break. This chain reaction can very quickly turn into a phantom tail back and cause traffic problems.

It's simple etiquette in my mind. Moving over, even for a short time to let someone past, is courtesy. The middle lane and the outside lane are for overtaking, so once you've overtaken move in. You don't cruise towards potential on coming traffic in the right lane of a country road because you can see a slow car ahead. Overtaking is overtaking regardless of the road.

As you can probably tell, this gets my knickers in a right twist.

Top post Mr Scott.

As I spend my life on Britains's motorways as a courier in my van, middlelane hoggers are without a doubt the biggest problem of all for people like myself. The middle lane is for over taking slower traffic on the inside lane and then pulling over once you have passed the slower vehicle. Its the people who cant be arsed to pull over because they can see another lorry a mile ahead that cause the problem and have the audicity to moan because a van is sat on their arse! Get out the fucking way and pull over because it requires much more effort for me to accelarate and pass you, pull back in and slow down when i should not have too!

[Arriba]

it's quite simple.you drive on the left unless overtaking.
it is polite to move to the middle lane to let traffic onto the carrageway but not if this forces traffic in the middle lane to brake.
i think the van driver and talk talk saw the situation differently

[BANGKOK RED]

Didn't somebody on here say something about him not being a particularly nice person.

In which case, fuck him.

I posted that in the wrong thread didn't I? It was supposed to be in the Mark Marshall one.

Whoops.

[stfc11]

I do always check before I indicate & turn, I don't just indicate and turn regardless, but I was just trying to make a point as to why they would teach you not to bother indicating, surely it's just better to indicate at all times anyway.

I agree I passed my test in April and had 3 driving instructors! Not one of them, even the first two shit ones I had never told me to not indicate if there was no one else around, if you're going to indicate you might aswell, if a car's there or not, this seems very odd to me.

[Arriba]

it is only advanced drivers that are taught not to indicate.and this is only when there is nothing else about.this is to boost their perception of what is going on around them.

[The Grim Reaper]

i think the van driver and talk talk saw the situation differently

Agreed.

One thing i have taught myself is not to get involved with other peoples lack of driving skills on the motorway. If someone comes screaming up behind you flashing his lights just get out the way, within seconds he would have gone and you wont see him again and your both get to your destinations far happier. Trying to 'slow' down speeding drivers is a big no-no unless your a traffic cop. Cause a motorway pile-up because you 'braked suddenly' to slow another car down and I can assure you the police will be far from impressed with your actions. Swallow your pride, let them past.

[Samdy Gray]

I've always wanted to get one of those scrolling signs for my rear windscreen. Just a polite message to ask them to please back off a little bit, or something to that effect.

[Peter Venkman]

Agreed.

One thing i have taught myself is not to get involved with other peoples lack of driving skills on the motorway. If someone comes screaming up behind you flashing his lights just get out the way, within seconds he would have gone and you wont see him again and your both get to your destinations far happier. Trying to 'slow' down speeding drivers is a big no-no unless your a traffic cop. Cause a motorway pile-up because you 'braked suddenly' to slow another car down and I can assure you the police will be far from impressed with your actions. Swallow your pride, let them past.

Agreed, one of the rules of defensive driving.