Old wives tales/superstitions

[Rich Pullen]

My old man works in the very-OAP industry and he's known alot to insist on the whole "fare for the boatman" when they die.

Don't think the River Styx is too relevant in British culture... is it?

[Reg Smeeton]

Would this be the 'Delian' era then?

 Certainement....I think it has a certain resonance.

[flammableBen]

It's a fair point, I suppose Georgian was done to death by slightly crazed Hanoverians, so George V and VI never got a time.  Serves the buggers right for being so dull in name choice..if only Elizabeth had been called Delia or something.

It might be to do with the latter Georges V and VI being over shadowed by the world wars (I think I'm getting my dates right). That and it was already taken. I suppose monarchs with names which don't fit well with a form of -an don't get the pleasure of having an era named after them either. You don't get Charlesian (probably), although I suppose Charles I's reign was also overshadowed by other events.

I've got a vague memory of hearing something (possibly on newsround) about a decade or so ago that Prince Charles was considering going under the title of King Philip. We haven't had one of them have we? Although wasn't Queen Mary married to a Spanish King Philip, don't suppose that counts.

[Reg Smeeton]

It might be to do with the latter Georges V and VI being over shadowed by the world wars (I think I'm getting my dates right). That and it was already taken. I suppose monarchs with names which don't fit well with a form of -an don't get the pleasure of having an era named after them either. You don't get Charlesian (probably), although I suppose Charles I's reign was also overshadowed by other events.

I've got a vague memory of hearing something (possibly on newsround) about a decade or so ago that Prince Charles was considering going under the title of King Philip. We haven't had one of them have we? Although wasn't Queen Mary married to a Spanish King Philip, don't suppose that counts.

 Charles should just be called King Chas.....Mary was indeed wed to Phillip of Spain, but  the original Philip was King of Macedonia, father of Iskandar..raving bender.  Don't think that would be a good move..he could try something like Athelstan.

[flammableBen]

Acording to the fountain of all factual knowledge that is wikipedia, I'm along the right lines with him choosing a different name, but rumours hint at George VII. Seems a bit unoriginal to me. Maybe he should embrace some multiculturalism and be King Dave-Abdul-Ghandi-Chin.

[Reg Smeeton]

Acording to the fountain of all factual knowledge that is wikipedia, I'm along the right lines with him choosing a different name, but rumours hint at George VII. Seems a bit unoriginal to me. Maybe he should embrace some multiculturalism and be King Dave-Abdul-Ghandi-Chin.

 George VII would be crap....I'm thinking something like Sri Stanislav...Caliph of the Commonweath would be good.

[flammableBen]

Or we could just scrap the monarchy when the current sexy lady drops down dead. Although it seems like a bit too much effort for fuck all change really. There's a certain charm too all the tradition and ceremony which has built up around the monarchy, especially as it doesn't have any real power.

Saying that, I like the idea that if the British tabloid (Daily Mail editorial) reading public got xenophobic enough to vote in a far right party, the Queen could tell them to fuck off and dissolve parliament. I've got a funny feeling it wouldn't work that way though.

[Reg Smeeton]

Or we could just scrap the monarchy when the current sexy lady drops down dead. Although it seems like a bit too much effort for fuck all change really. There's a certain charm too all the tradition and ceremony which has built up around the monarchy, especially as it doesn't have any real power.

Saying that, I like the idea that if the British tabloid (Daily Mail editorial) reading public got xenophobic enough to vote in a far right party, the Queen could tell them to fuck off and dissolve parliament. I've got a funny feeling it wouldn't work that way though.

 Never my flammable friend....

[flammableBen]

I've got big plans for the royal family. Instead of going down the classic armed forces route, I think the next lot should have to train as social workers or something. Apart from Prince Williams first kid, he/she should be trained it loads of martial arts and stuff. Having a secret vigilante crime stopping monarch would be fucking kick ass. They could sell the movie rights for it.

[Reg Smeeton]

I've got big plans for the royal family. Instead of going down the classic armed forces route, I think the next lot should have to train as social workers or something. Apart from Prince Williams first kid, he/she should be trained it loads of martial arts and stuff. Having a secret vigilante crime stopping monarch would be fucking kick ass. They could sell the movie rights for it.

 I think this already happens...when Michael Fagan broke into the Queen's bedroom, she dealt with the intruder....has he been seen on Wanted posters since...I don't think so.

[pauld]

Charles should just be called King Chas.....Mary was indeed wed to Phillip of Spain, but  the original Philip was King of Macedonia, father of Iskandar..raving bender.  Don't think that would be a good move..he could try something like Athelstan.

Actually that was Philip II, Philip I of Macedon (Macedonia being a modern name for a geographic area which roughly corresponds to some of the ancient kingdom of Macedon) ruled some 250 years earlier. But assuming you meant Philip II, he was indeed father of Alexander the Great (Iskandar being a Central Asian adaptation), more usually known as the conqueror of most of the (then) known civilised world including most of Central Asia, as opposed to "raving bender". Although clearly, how one sums up the central facet of his achievement is largely a subjective judgement - most historians prefer the "great conqueror" tag, but "raving bender" is also applicable.

[Reg Smeeton]

Actually that was Philip II, Philip II of Macedon (Macedonia being a modern name for a geographic area which roughly corresponds to some of the ancient kingdom of Macedon) ruled some 250 years earlier. But assuming you meant Philip II, he was indeed father of Alexander the Great (Iskandar being a Central Asian adaptation), more usually known as the conqueror of most of the (then) known civilised world including most of Central Asia, as opposed to "raving bender". Although clearly, how one sums up the central facet of his achievement is largely a subjective judgement - most historians prefer the "great conqueror" tag, but "raving bender" is also applicable.

 I always think of him as Phillip of Macedon, as opposed to Phillip II of Macedon...let's not fall out over it.

 Incidentally, alongside a homosexual conquerer on a global scale..Macedonia can claim to be the home of mixed vegetables (Macedoine) and Artim Sekiri who made a handful of appearances fro WBA, attracting attention after their 2-2 draw at Soton in the 2004 Euros.

[pauld]

I always think of him as Phillip of Macedon, as opposed to Phillip I of Macedon...let's not fall out over it.

No, that's fair enough, the II isn't used that often as he is kind of the Philip of Macedon, the first one having been a bit of a damp squib in the whole "siring limpwristed conqueror" stakes. And Philip himself was no shirker when it came to the whole conquering malarkey, cutting a bit of a swathe through the Greek city states. How galling it must have been to have dedicated his life to carving out a bit of a name for himself (often carving it in the bodies of the conquered) as something of a big noise on the conquering front, only to find himself totally eclipsed by his lad. Flash bugger, Greece not good enough for him, oh no, has to show the old man up by doing half of Asia as well. Him and his bloody one-toed horse. Git.

Incidentally, alongside a homosexual conquerer on a global scale..Macedonia can claim to be the home of mixed vegetables (Macedoine) and Artim Sekiri who made a handful of appearances fro WBA, attracting attention after their 2-2 draw at Soton in the 2004 Euros.

Now that I didn't know. Any other countries/regions/former ancient kingdoms can lay such a claim to a triple pack of gay conqueror/mixed veg/Baggies fringe player fame? I think not.

[strooood]

I always think of him as Phillip of Macedon, as opposed to Phillip II of Macedon...let's not fall out over it.

 Incidentally, alongside a homosexual conquerer on a global scale..Macedonia can claim to be the home of mixed vegetables (Macedoine) and Artim Sekiri who made a handful of appearances fro WBA, attracting attention after their 2-2 draw at Soton in the 2004 Euros.

scored straight from a corner past seaman no less did sekiri.

[Reg Smeeton]

scored straight from a corner past seaman no less did sekiri.

 Hips don't lie.

 What is it with England goalkeepers and making monumental blunders?