Fucking Disgusted

[Bushey Boy]

Lumos I really do get agree at you and I dont even know you, in real life your probably a sound fella.  Before you say it, I probably annoy you as well.

The plastic 'thing' in my opinion is the fact I maybe only saw one or two Reading FC shirts in Swindon in the 5 years prior to them being in the top flight.  Since they were promoted, lots of cars, people and football supporters sport the shirt and stickers.  To me plastic is when you start supporting a team when they are successful.

Being a supporter to me is when you are relegated, or on a losing streak yet still get behind teh team and are proud of them.

[Lumps]

Agreed

Thats why all the school "sports" days have been replaced with "fun" days

They HAVEN'T.

My kids only left school 4/5 years ago and they had competitive school sports throughout their school careers.

My neice and nephew are were at Greendown (the lads just gone to the Cirencester Academy as a football scholar) and it's been the same.

Can we all stop just writing headlines for the Daily Mail please.

Oh and there's a point about not caring too much about results in youth football.

It's a piece of piss to win football matchs with lads between 11 and 15. They all hit puberty and grow at such varying rates that if you pick a side of the ones that mature early they're twice the fucking size of the opposition and they just steamroller them. (It's kind of the approach that Brentford took to the professional game about ten (ok maybe 15) years back when 8 out of 11 players would be 6'6'', 16 stone, black guys that could cover 100 metres in less than 12.5 seconds)

I've seen it happen in youth football a lot. If you're totally results focused the little skillful kid doesn't get a game and eventually just drifts away from the club. By the time he hits his growth spurt and catches up with the others he might not even be playing the game. Meanwhile the side that were world beaters for the last three years have been caught up by the more forward thinking teams in terms of power and speed, and are now having rings run around them by kids that can actually dribble and pass rather than just lump it to the Goliath up front.

[Lumps]

Lumos I really do get agree at you and I dont even know you, in real life your probably a sound fella.  Before you say it, I probably annoy you as well.

The plastic 'thing' in my opinion is the fact I maybe only saw one or two Reading FC shirts in Swindon in the 5 years prior to them being in the top flight.  Since they were promoted, lots of cars, people and football supporters sport the shirt and stickers.  To me plastic is when you start supporting a team when they are successful.
Being a supporter to me is when you are relegated, or on a losing streak yet still get behind the team and are proud of them.

Ash, that just happens mate. It's a fact of life at a club like ours, or Reading. If we were in their position you'd be only too pleased to see some new faces wearing our shirts wouldn't you?

When we go up to the Championship what would piss you off more, a whole load of people starting to come to games that didn't go before and are therefore plastic, or us still getting gates of under 8,000?

I'm not saying you can't feel good about yourself for being a more loyal supporter than others but if people aren't careful they can end up adopting a "where were you when we were shite you plastic bastard" attitude, and that isn't going to help increase attendance is it?

Anyway, being up in the frozen north (the boiler in the office is fucked) I've not been to a game in ages so I probably don't even qualify as having a right to an opinion on all of this. In my defence however, I did watch a number of home games during the 83/84 season under Ken Beamish when we finished 17th in Div 4 (our lowest league finish ever I think) so I have suffered probably as much as anyone who posts on here with the obvious exception of Reg. (It was worth the misery of that season though as Lou turned up the next)

Actually that's the thing to comfort yourself with. Those people that only turn up for the good times won't appreciate it as much as you. It means much more to watch them win a title and pick up a record points tally, if you've watched them narrowly avoid having to reapply to league status the year before.

[sonic youth]

i think there's a very valid comparison to be drawn between sportsmen in general from the uk and australia and their respective competitive streaks.

[Arriba]

some good points have been raised in this thread imo.
with regard to football,as i have already pointed out oxford getting carried away with wins is up to them.but its not about winning matches.the whole centre of exellence and academy system is to create professional footballers.nearly all wont make it but if a few come through then the job has been done correctly.
its about individual players doing the right things and progressing year on year.the teams are just there for the individual boys to how their own talents.kids are rotated with trailists involved in games.if it was about winning then teams would be set up for that purpose and better lads would get more pitch time ect.

with regard to other sports ie athletics then i agree that the not winning its the taking part bollocks that has now become the norm in schools is wrong.
i dont even bother to attend my kids sports days as they are a joke!
look at the state of british athletics for example.the commentators are creaming their pants if we scrape a bronze nowadays.fucking pathetic!
its dogooder namby pamby let them all have a go brigade that are to blame.
talented kids aint coming through in the numbers they used to and its showing now in the medals tally.or other sports like tennis where you have to be wealthy for your children to even join clubs and play.

[Arriba]

the arsenal footy school is run by wayne hatswell and adi viveash by the way

[Colin Todd]

That'll be some top quality coaching then.  JUST HOOF IT LADS

[Bushey Boy]

Lumos I really do get agree at you and I dont even know you, in real life your probably a sound fella.  Before you say it, I probably annoy you as well.

The plastic 'thing' in my opinion is the fact I maybe only saw one or two Reading FC shirts in Swindon in the 5 years prior to them being in the top flight.  Since they were promoted, lots of cars, people and football supporters sport the shirt and stickers.  To me plastic is when you start supporting a team when they are successful.
Being a supporter to me is when you are relegated, or on a losing streak yet still get behind the team and are proud of them.

Ash, that just happens mate. It's a fact of life at a club like ours, or Reading. If we were in their position you'd be only too pleased to see some new faces wearing our shirts wouldn't you?

When we go up to the Championship what would piss you off more, a whole load of people starting to come to games that didn't go before and are therefore plastic, or us still getting gates of under 8,000?

I'm not saying you can't feel good about yourself for being a more loyal supporter than others but if people aren't careful they can end up adopting a "where were you when we were shite you plastic bastard" attitude, and that isn't going to help increase attendance is it?

Anyway, being up in the frozen north (the boiler in the office is fucked) I've not been to a game in ages so I probably don't even qualify as having a right to an opinion on all of this. In my defence however, I did watch a number of home games during the 83/84 season under Ken Beamish when we finished 17th in Div 4 (our lowest league finish ever I think) so I have suffered probably as much as anyone who posts on here with the obvious exception of Reg. (It was worth the misery of that season though as Lou turned up the next)

Actually that's the thing to comfort yourself with. Those people that only turn up for the good times won't appreciate it as much as you. It means much more to watch them win a title and pick up a record points tally, if you've watched them narrowly avoid having to reapply to league status the year before.

Fair points you have raised on this.  Its often hard to put a post up on here and justify what I am saying.  It just infuriates me that people only came against walsall last year etc.

Was sat in teh front of nationwide and when started singing a song some fans in liverpool and arsenal tops looked at us like we had murdered someone!

Fair play 25 years watching this club?? Not far behind and shows what a good fan base, albeit it small is

[reeves4england]

Getting full attendances at the CG is very much a two-sided coin. The place is full of idiots who just want to say they saw Swindon get promoted and couldn't actually care less about the club, but the revenue from the gate is twice what it would normally be.

I get annoyed seeing Reading shirts in Swindon as I NEVER used to see Reading shirts in town. Now I see them far too often

[Simon Pieman]

Sports day at Greendown was super lame. Nobody wanted to do it.

All the other sports were taken more seriously in the tutor tournaments though.

[Arriba]

when i was there they didn't ever have a sports day.infact we never did any athletics at all.no footy team until the last year either.

[ronnie21]

the arsenal footy school is run by wayne hatswell and adi viveash by the way

:lots of laughing cunts:

[sonic youth]

when i was there they didn't ever have a sports day.infact we never did any athletics at all.no footy team until the last year either.

my secondary school was woeful for sports, i was captain of my primary school team for a little while which just goes to show how poor it was!

a bloke i work with is a saffa and a big rugby fan, he played in the first team for his school side which is a huge achievement and the school's first teams used to get crowds of up to 2,000 when they played - can you imagine that over here?

[Miss Angry]

Agreed

Thats why all the school "sports" days have been replaced with "fun" days

They HAVEN'T.

My kids only left school 4/5 years ago and they had competitive school sports throughout their school careers.

My neice and nephew are were at Greendown (the lads just gone to the Cirencester Academy as a football scholar) and it's been the same.

I think you'll find alot of schools in Swindon have "fun days" to replace sports day - having said that, this year for the first time in 5 years my son had a good old fahsioned Sports day and the children seemed to have alot more fun!

[Mexicano Rojo]

i am fucking disgusted, millbrook school is in grove not wantage.