Power's amazing offer on ground

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

the difference between these plans now and the old ones is that somebody is prepared to fund or part fund it. SBC have always said we needed someone to be able to do this. funding was a major stumbling block in the last plans and not only are these plans a lot more thought out they have a bit of financial backing as well. its a really good start! well done to everyone at the Trust for bringing this about!

[land_of_bo]

Where's the scoreboard and floodlights!?!

[Simon Pieman]

Can someone clarify something?

If the plans were entirely self funding then what's the crack with this? I'm not criticising, but I'm a bit perplexed as to why we need BP's money to finance redevelopment.

This isn't a criticism so no mongoloid answers.

[yeo]

Thanks Alan that certainly makes it much much less clear.I think it probably me being thick but i really cant get my head around what anyones trying to say.

Ok. If you're coming to the Trust Meeting on Saturday I will give you a neck massage.

Wanna lift? I'm taking Gazza.

I wasnt going to go im working Saturday night a 11.30 start is a pain in the arse for me.

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

Can someone clarify something?

If the plans were entirely self funding then what's the crack with this? I'm not criticising, but I'm a bit perplexed as to why we need BP's money to finance redevelopment.

This isn't a criticism so no mongoloid answers.

how else can we finance it though Si? we had St Modwen before and the board are still working with them. we dont have the money as a club and SSW wont finance it himself. St Modwen won't play ball unless the plans are "big enough" for them. thats why they want to move to junction 17

[TalkTalk]

Can someone clarify something?

The stadium redevelopment should be self financing (however it will need capital to build the enabling flats etc)

However, as I posted earlier, there is a lot more to these proposals than just the stadium.

[pauld]

Valid question - the point of BP offering to fund the plans is not that he's going to personally shell out every penny of the rebuild, but that he will put the initial funding in to get the project off the ground. After that, as you say, the intention is that the plans would be self-financing

[Simon Pieman]

Ok ta I getcha.

I was under the impression before that the whole thing would be done without an investor and things like the flats would in effect pay for the whole thing itself. Just wanted to make sure I hadn't got the wrong end of the stick.

I know the venture would have needed start up capital etc. and maybe loans so I do understand why it's a generous offer.

Alan - can you still give me a lift on saturday?

[TalkTalk]

Alan - can you still give me a lift on saturday?

Yuppers.

Hay Lane roundabout at 10:45 ok?

[Power to people]

Fantastic, is there no end to Bill's genorisity ?

And I'm sure the board are still putting stumbling blocks in the way of talking to Bill & Co about looking at the books.

I'm sure this is not something that Bill has thought about overnight the plans have been around a while he must have put serious thought into this and looked at the plans for himself to be happy in his own mind they are workable and he wouldn't merely be throwing money away.

You have to remember people like Architects cost money, there would have to be proper designs for this to go to the council planning commitee but what is already done is 95% of it.

Wouldn't it be fantastic to see a nice sea of Orange on Sat around the ground, really show the board & the greek fella what fan's think, about time there was some chanting around the ground as well about Bill Power, that will really wind the board up.

[Simon Pieman]

Alan - can you still give me a lift on saturday?

Yuppers.

Hay Lane roundabout at 10:45 ok?

Yep that's great - cheers!

[Iffy's Onion Bhaji]

ill be wearing Orange as ever  

[DV]

Now Power has said he will stump up some cash, has he mentioned any figures. I guess he hasnt publically, but maybe privately

Alot of questions have been asked about the North Stand, the orginal plan was to leave it as it is...mainly (iirc) for cost reasons. With no big bucks backer the plans we're developed to be as cheap as possibly and much less than the boards quoted £50million.

If the amount Bill is willing to put in, is enough....could the plans be potentially re-vamped to include the North Stand redevelopment?

[Simon Pieman]

Bill's clearly putting the money in to make the Trust stadium proposals more attractive than the board's very similar ones. Not that it's a bad thing, I'm sure it would have happened anyway.

I'd quite like it if the Arkells to be kept there for a while - well until we need more capacity or something, should that situation arise.

[TalkTalk]

If the amount Bill is willing to put in, is enough....could the plans be potentially re-vamped to include the North Stand redevelopment?

No - for the Trust proposals.

The figures in there are based on a redevelopment financed by the suggested flats and apartments etc.

There would have to be a lot more development (and probably a lot more objections from the residents' groups) to fund it.

But hey - a successful football club in a few year's time might have built up enough capital to do that from the revenue streams from the new facilities...