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« Reply #90 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:40:55 »

plus all this 'you are acting like 11 year old girls' by being fickle and insulting members of the board, calling us hypocrits. whats more hypocritical about that?
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« Reply #91 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:42:36 »

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If it comes to it, I trust Bill Power and Mark Devlin to find us another top class manager.

I really hope it doesn't come to that though.
Id agree with that. Sturrock is great. but no one man is bigger than the club
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« Reply #92 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:43:14 »

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If I was Bill Gates or Richard Branson would you say the same thing to me?
Absolutely, there is no way you'd be investing in this club.

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Who said I was basing this potential alternative on anything the board have or have not said?
If you are an ordinary fan, and not connected in any way with the board or peripherals, then what other sources do you have? If you've got something to say.... be my guest



Funnily enough I do not have to explain myself to you or any of the swindon town fans, but you do not know me, who i work for or what my interest is outside of being a fan so dont come at me so aggressively like you know something you dont.

If I was (for example) a potential investor or connected to one who had decided to get involved in the fans debate to see what interest they showed in receiving outside investment from a third party and what it truely was the fans wanted to happen to the club, then people such as yourself are the ones that would put me off the idea of helping with the "nothing anyone else says is valid or worthy of a debate" attitude.

Only time will tell if another investor wishes to declare their interest in taking the club forward...you know no more than any other swindon fan


Do you not call this a debate? And what with this attitude?
the attitude you refer is totally predictable in light of the past 5 years with the current board,  the stagnation of the business of STFC and the backwards movement of the footballing side. fans want whats best for the club, and you have to accept that the majority of fans will have had enough of this regime now.
the consortium offers another opportunity for the club which is clearly embraced by fans, because its for the fans.

Sharkey earlier you mention an attendence poll or something along those line, stating 2 times the numberof trust members is still a minority. but you are estimating or putting a ball park figure on it. i for one do not know how many people support the consortium and orange revolution, and neither to you. so as you say stick to the facts


The fact is 750 X 2 = 1500 and we have many more fans than 3000 so that is why I referred to it as a minority as an example.....Like I also said and you too corrected point out, we do not know the truth of how many support the trust or the current regime so maybe it might be an idea for someone to carry out such a poll and find out???
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« Reply #93 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:45:44 »

Fair point and your maths seems sound,  but still makes the figure irrelevant, and as you say its just an idea which could be followed through
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« Reply #94 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:51:20 »

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Like I also said and you too corrected point out, we do not know the truth of how many support the trust or the current regime so maybe it might be an idea for someone to carry out such a poll and find out???


Perhaps you should do it yourself seems as you like to think you're above us all.
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« Reply #95 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:52:23 »

750 people have signed up to the TRUST.  750 is not the limit of support for the fans consortium ( I do believe although this is just speculation).

It may not happen this week or this month, or even in 6 matches, but one day the board will get the message that the board do not have the support of the majority of the fans.

And that's what the revolution is all about Comrade Sharky!!!

Viva la revolucion - let's get Newbury out of town eh?!?
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« Reply #96 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 14:59:34 »

Sharkey, as far as I know the Fans Consortium would indeed be open to other people getting involved.

Posting on an 85% bollocks forum may give you some clue as the merits of using it as a sounding board though about invesment potential.  Plus you'll be getting people at their angriest on here.  If you were interested in investing via the Fans Consortium, then I would suggest approaching them and having a chat with them.
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« Reply #97 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:03:18 »

Sort it out Rob, 80% bollocks Wink
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« Reply #98 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:04:21 »

It never ceases to amaze me how these threads meander off topic to a degree.

Unfortunately, back to topic. IMHO Sturrock has been placed in an untenable position. At least twice that I know of (after the Morecambe & Walsall games), Ed Hadwin has sought his opinion regarding the off-the-field activities at the club - to be fair, Sturrock diplomatically dodged the question, as rightly he should.

The problem is that we as fans are keen to know his thoughts. And when he does publish 'his thoughts', we don't necessarily like them as he appears to be in full support of his current employer - who in the right mind would publically criticise the hand that feeds them one month into their tenure?

FWIW, this clearly stinks of propoganda from the current regime. Sturrock's position in this debate has been made untenable, in that I mean he was almost forced to make some statement to appease certain factions who were keen to know his opinion.

Classic catch 22 situation. I for one am taking with with a huge pinch of salt, and would like to put on record that Paul Sturrock has my full support regarding the on-field management of this club.
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« Reply #99 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:07:49 »

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Sort it out Rob, 80% bollocks Wink


That's just bollocks.
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« Reply #100 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:08:23 »

Thank you Robert for your very valid points, It sounds like having listened on other topics to what seem to be the main players in the Trust, that perhaps coming to the next Trust/Consortium meeting would be beneficial to me as although I dont necessarily believe my potential input will sink in with the consortiums plans, I wont know until I have talked it through with the right people to get the full picture.

I give up with trying to explain myself to the people on here and look forward to meeting messrs Wilkes & Co at some point in the near future.

When is the next Trust/Consortium meeting so that either myself or my colleague may attend?
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« Reply #101 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:10:05 »

I believe there is one on January 13th before the Wrexham game at a venue yet to be decided.

The parties involved though would more than likely agree to a seperate meeting and can normally be found on matchdays.
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« Reply #102 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:10:22 »

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It never ceases to amaze me how these threads meander off topic to a degree.

Unfortunately, back to topic. IMHO Sturrock has been placed in an untenable position. At least twice that I know of (after the Morecambe & Walsall games), Ed Hadwin has sought his opinion regarding the off-the-field activities at the club - to be fair, Sturrock diplomatically dodged the question, as rightly he should.

The problem is that we as fans are keen to know his thoughts. And when he does publish 'his thoughts', we don't necessarily like them as he appears to be in full support of his current employer - who in the right mind would publically criticise the hand that feeds them one month into their tenure?

FWIW, this clearly stinks of propoganda from the current regime. Sturrock's position in this debate has been made untenable, in that I mean he was almost forced to make some statement to appease certain factions who were keen to know his opinion.

Classic catch 22 situation. I for one am taking with with a huge pinch of salt, and would like to put on record that Paul Sturrock has my full support regarding the on-field management of this club.


Here bloody here

Like I said in a previous thread, he has been manouvered into this position and I for one feel slightly sorry for him
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« Reply #103 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:21:08 »

January 13th I think, but please don't go til February cos I'm on holiday in Jan and want to be at the meeting where you raise your issues with Mr Wilks.
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« Reply #104 on: Thursday, December 14, 2006, 15:37:27 »

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I believe there is one on January 13th before the Wrexham game at a venue yet to be decided.

The parties involved though would more than likely agree to a seperate meeting and can normally be found on matchdays.


We would be happy to Sharky

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