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« Reply #60 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 15:20:33 »

Dazzas post makes a lot of sense. I don't think anything will happen though.

Iffy deserves to have a go next season.
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« Reply #61 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 15:21:51 »

A lot of good points in there (Dazzza's post not Tails Wink ) ......but this management thing is an inexact science.

 Sarfend appointed a cheap youth team manager, not long out of playing in Steve Tilson and they're about to win our league.

 Tilson staved off relegation, and then built the next season....here though he staved off relegation to the Confernce by finishing about 21st.  Iffy may well finish here but in L1 its down.

 L2 is slightly easier insofar as only 2 teams drop and 7th picks up a PO spot.
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« Reply #62 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 15:27:58 »

Taking your point there Reg, then Iffy needs to preserve L1 status... in an earlier post you suggested that you thought he was readying himself to accept relegatio?
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« Reply #63 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 15:42:56 »

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Taking your point there Reg, then Iffy needs to preserve L1 status... in an earlier post you suggested that you thought he was readying himself to accept relegatio?


   I think as a manager you need to be thinking ahead and  it would be silly not to anticipate relegation, and the likely impact on contracts and budgets etc.
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« Reply #64 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 15:54:12 »

Boothroyd at Watford is another good example, sometimes individuals and clubs just seem to click and hit it off.  

There's definitely a clean slate to be had in the summer but the board are going to have to offer the support and finances to allow him to build his own team.  Then we can play at hanging him from the gallows.   Cheesy

At the risk of sounding like a post on the Adver forum the board really need to at least allow for a little speculative spending next season in strengthening the squad. Given that the difference between the top half of League two is relatively the same if not arguably stronger than league one in part, then a squad that's not been good enough this season is unlikely to be the next.
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« Reply #65 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 16:08:58 »

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Boothroyd at Watford is another good example, sometimes individuals and clubs just seem to click and hit it off.  

There's definitely a clean slate to be had in the summer but the board are going to have to offer the support and finances to allow him to build his own team.  Then we can play at hanging him from the gallows.   Cheesy

At the risk of sounding like a post on the Adver forum the board really need to at least allow for a little speculative spending next season in strengthening the squad. Given that the difference between the top half of League two is relatively the same if not arguably stronger than league one in part, then a squad that's not been good enough this season is unlikely to be the next.


 Therein lies the problem...rather than spending it'll be further cuts...probably under the guise of the wage cap that operates in L2.
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« Reply #66 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 16:16:49 »

If the fans turned up we wouldn't need to cut the budget...
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« Reply #67 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 16:26:12 »

if the football was of quality at a fair price they would turn up
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« Reply #68 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 16:51:05 »

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i think iffy got his team selection wrong last night,throwing on an untried kid into a game with one side fighting relegation and the other pushing for promotion was a major fuck up in my opinion.also why the fuck was cureton on the bench?
because we play it long so why the fuck should we put a 5"8 striker on when we got a 6"2 striker on the bench..cureton was on the bench for a reason tell me ONE thing he has done in a away game for us this season
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« Reply #69 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:19:18 »

im with DMR here tbh. are we really that much better off now with iffy than we would be with King? probably only 2 points in it if that. Iffy has done a good job under the circumstances but you have to ask why the board went for the cheap option of an inexperienced manager when it was obvious we would be battling to stay up right to the end of the season
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« Reply #70 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:28:10 »

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im with DMR here tbh. are we really that much better off now with iffy than we would be with King? probably only 2 points in it if that. Iffy has done a good job under the circumstances but you have to ask why the board went for the cheap option of an inexperienced manager when it was obvious we would be battling to stay up right to the end of the season


 Its quite simple, the Board had laid out a certain amount of money in the budget for managers....in the summer they gambled on reducing the playing budget and hoping King's ability with loans etc could paper the cracks and keep us up.

 They'll settle for a failure insofar as they appreciate the problems under which the manager here operates....up to the point where some of the fans get sufficiently agitated to block the exit from the Arkell's so Board members have to leave through the club shop.

 This they don't like...and is why King was sacked.

  In terms of budget it made no difference...in terms of relegation they don't care too much as long as no more debt accrues.

 If there is a protest  before the end of the season of 50 or 60 having a go at the Board and blocking the Arkells, Iffy will be gone PDQ...
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« Reply #71 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:32:10 »

thats stupid! we should block the arkells every game until they realise its them, not the manager, that we want rid off!
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« Reply #72 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:34:28 »

you have to remember, alot are still Kingys players.

Id give Iffy next season and allow him to bring in his players

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« Reply #73 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:36:51 »

Soapy Tit Wank to be fair id keep Iffy for next seasons promotion charge in league two as well. he does need time and with time comes the experience he needs. i dont want him out that much i just feel that maybe a more experienced manager would have been a better choice for us
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« Reply #74 on: Wednesday, April 12, 2006, 17:37:00 »

also its not Iffys fault, the board decided to sell his best player and top scorer right from under him in January....
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