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[Ben Wah Balls]

'get someone else in- even reeves'

Dont be fucking stupid, iffy has done a good job considering what he had to take over with, anyone else think Curo wasnt 100% fit last night, Lucas fitted iffy's system last night we were playing with a lone striker so Curo wasnt going to fit that, what he did yesterday was entirely right we were just out played by a better team.


I think we may be forgetting the shit King left us in morally and points wise, ii Iffy was in at the start of the season well who knows but i think we would be safe by now.

Left us in the shit morally....what  the fuck are you going on about seriously?

[Batch]

The whole get someone else in, anyone but X is what got Iffy the job in the first place. I don't mind change if it looks like a positive move, but change for change sake doesn't always work

[sonicyouth]

Hang on a minute,last night you basically said that Iffy was clueless and now you say keep him as manager ?WTF  :?  If he is not good enough in this league why would he suddenly become the Alex Ferguson  of League 2 ? Not so long ago people were calling for King to be sacked because he didnt have a clue ,Iffy may be a nice bloke and Media Friendly but he is not a manager .

what i said - or at least what i meant - was that he'd lost the plot in the run-in. up until recently i've thought he's done well, but he's struggled when it comes to trying to lift us out of the mire again.

i think that given the fact he's inheirited king's squad and has been battling the drop all season, he deserves a chance in his own right. if it doesn't work, then get rid.

i don't like to see managers come and go.

[Arriba]

I don't think that Iffy is up to the job, but I think he played a youth teamer up front cos all the other strikers at the club were injured. He has had plenty of time to turn things around with a sh*t squad. Whatsisface at Sh*tty managed to do it and look at all the crap that Tinhead had brought into the squad there ! However, I wouldn't be surprised to see him still in the position next year due to cost. As for him caring more about the club than King; you must be 'avin' a larf !

NMH

what a load of bollocks the above is.shittys squad and ours is miles apart.how can iffy turn a shit squad around without major investment?

[sonicyouth]

i think iffy got his team selection wrong last night,throwing on an untried kid into a game with one side fighting relegation and the other pushing for promotion was a major fuck up in my opinion.

mind you, thinking back he tried the same when we went to high-flying huddersfield and threw stroud in at the deep end. we were superb in that game and stroud was fantastic.

[BenSTFC]

BWB you always feel the need to disagree with my posts - king lost practically all the dressing room, most of the players despised the bloke players did not want to play for him.

[Ben Wah Balls]

BWB you always feel the need to disagree with my posts - king lost practically all the dressing room, most of the players despised the bloke players did not want to play for him.

It's generally because you tend to post stuff that isn't true.

I don't think you understand what the word morally means.

[yeo]

Iffys done an average job with shit tools.

Only Jesus can save us now.

[sonicyouth]

what a ridiculous suggestion, he's dead. we can't afford a time machine nor could we make the club an attractive proposition for him to resurrect himself again.

some of our fans have completely absurd expectations.

[Tails]

He's done alright this year considering it was his first crack of the whip, and I think he deserves another go. He needs consistency in his selection and he does make some strange decisions, but he's desperate for a result.

I'm all for an experienced manager coming in though, although Iffy seems very popular with the players.

[yeo]

make some strange decisions, but he's desperate for a result.

I'm all for an experienced manager coming in though, although Iffy seems very popular with the players.

Yes thats one of the problems.

Hes like a mate to them not a boss he wants to start bollocking a few and chucking some tea cups.

[Dazzza]

I said it last night in the match day thread and I'll say it again.  Iffy and the club as a whole could really do with some senior coaching staff.

Since the departure of Malcolm Crosby things have progressively gone from bad to worse.  Of course there’s many more ills to point the finger at for our demise, the reason for Crosby departing in the first place being first and foremost.  But we have a young manager and a young coach both less than 18 months out of the game with the back-up of Ian Woan another who is out of the trade less than two years.

Three years ago we had a backroom staff of Andy King, Malcolm Crosby, Fraiser Digby (PT), Alan Reeves (PT), Viv Busby and a youth development manager who was eventually poached by Chelski.  We now have a trio of inexperienced coaches fresh out of their playing career and only two have any sort of previous coaching experience, one under Andy King the other under Paul Merson.   :|

Go back a further four years ago and there was talk of King getting at least one possibly two full time scouts to assist him.

Young managers have to start somewhere but as with any trade there is a period to serve as an apprentice and learn the ropes before you can stand on your own two feet.  There are exceptions to the rule but can anyone think of any decent recent examples of a player less than 18 months out of the game having a short and eventual long term impact?  *Cough*Brian Tinnion*Cough*

One of the few things that Andy King once said that made a lot of sense at a presentation evening; when asked about that lad who broke Rooney’s scoring record in the FA Youth cup and his chances of making it was "the step-up from  youth sides to reserve team football is massive, the gulf between reserve team football and the first team is colossal."

It's only fair to say the same rules apply to management

That’s not to take away from Iffy’s performance managing the youth team to that cup victory.  He pulled off a master stroke but the point of employing him as first team manager on the basis of 12 months as a youth team coach does not make an awful lot of sense.

Personally I don’t think he was the ideal man for the job but by the same token he’s impressed in part and to question his role at this stage is madness.  Where ever we end up next season he has a massive job either way and deserves a clean run at it.

Even short-term bring in an old head or even someone like Tony Adams who will bring a bit of a lift and spirit (probably vodka) about the place and add some experience and back-up for the big man in charge.

[DMR]

Can't shrug the feeling that we shot ourselves in the foot sending Big Ron packing. Forget the spin I'm certain he would have had some input and we've gone downhill since they left.

[DMR]

Also, he froze out Whalley when he was looking at his best after Vale. Freezing out Roberts, Thorpe, probably Cureto etc I wonder whether he can deal with egos.

[sonicyouth]

whalley was froze out under king as much as iffy, he was the forgotten man for a long time.

roberts wasn't frozen out, he had serious personal issues which he had to deal with and it would appear, given the fact he's not been around lately, he's not dealt with them sufficiently.

thorpe had plenty of chances but never delivered.

cureton has performed well but i don;'t understand the logic of dropping him last night, though i would assume it was along the same lines of southend away - one up front, don't play a midget.