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Title: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:27:53
Please put me out of my misery.  When I go to my TEF Home Page, it says my Karma score is zero.  The actual score doesnít bother me, but wtf is the Karma thing all about and what makes it change? ???


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:34:00
Please put me out of my misery.  When I go to my TEF Home Page, it says my Karma score is zero.  The actual score doesnít bother me, but wtf is the Karma thing all about and what makes it change? ???

I'm -2 someone enlighten us🤔


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:37:03
I'm -2 someone enlighten us🤔
Glad Iím not alone!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:41:16
It was a silly scoring system where people would be marked up or down by other people.

We had to turn it off because some sensitive souls got upset by it.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:42:19
It was a silly scoring system where people would be marked up or down by other people.

We had to turn it off because some sensitive souls got upset by it.

A little like the Adver forum used to be thumbs up or down! +10 for the moderators always there when needed👍


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:45:42
Please bring it back


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Chunkyhair on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:47:50
Please bring it back

+1


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:49:32
Please bring it back

We could have a Tef league table


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:50:24
You bunch of cunts -19


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:51:38
You bunch of cunts -19

You just knocked us off the top hurting our feelings doing so🤣


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:53:01
We could have a Tef league table

It's ironic that c*** is a term of endearment on this forum but a few minus karma points causes a great deal of pain and upset.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:55:24
It's ironic that c*** is a term of endearment on this forum but a few minus karma points causes a great deal of pain and upset.


Some are just too sensitive in this politically correct world we live in


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:56:01
You bunch of cunts -19
Is that your actual score, or is that what you would get for a friendly little greeting like that.  Thanks to bamboo, I estimate that my score would be much lower.  My Red Card is getting twitchy already.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Quagmire on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:58:22
Is that your actual score, or is that what you would get for a friendly little greeting like that.  Thanks to bamboo, I estimate that my score would be much lower.  My Red Card is getting twitchy already.

Ironically. , it was Bamboo who sulked the most about it in the first place - hence it being removed.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Mother Brown on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:59:31
-67  :toocool:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 19:59:48
We could have a Tef league table
I donít need no League Table - I can piss people off without even trying, and since Iíve been on here Iíve identified a considerable amount of what bamboo would call ďcuntynessĒ.  Itís great!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:00:01
It was a silly scoring system where people would be marked up or down by other people.

We had to turn it off because some sensitive souls got upset by it.


Who created the forum and how is it funded etc assuming there is some sort of cost


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:01:29
I donít need no League Table - I can piss people off without even trying, and since Iíve been on here Iíve identified a considerable amount of what bamboo would call ďcuntynessĒ.  Itís great!

Would you rename it 25% football 85% cunts😀


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:02:34

Who created the forum and how is it funded etc assuming there is some sort of cost
I reckon itís powered in an eco-friendly way by all the hot air weíre generating.   :nod:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:03:06
I presume the Karma is now set in stone, who won?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:03:31
I reckon itís powered in an eco-friendly way by all the hot air weíre generating.   :nod:


Anything is better than watching the shite on TV


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:03:58
Would you rename it 25% football 85% cunts😀
Probably, and Iím firmly in the 85%. :D


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:08:13
I presume the Karma is now set in stone, who won?

Bamboo


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Crispy on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:12:01
Think I was at -16ish, had I been more active over the last few years I can imagine it would be a lot, lot lower.

If only I could remember what the Cunt emoji got changed too ::cunt ::cunt:: Or something similar  :D


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:20:16

Who created the forum and how is it funded etc assuming there is some sort of cost

Created by the late, great Whits many moons ago when we needed an alternative to thisis.

Now owned by Barry Scott. If the forum breaks, it's usually him faffing about with stuff.

I don't know about funding? Are there ads? I think ads were mentioned at one point but I don't see any.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:22:39
I presume the Karma is now set in stone, who won?

At the risk of a moderator rectifying the situation, I was on +21 when it got frozen...

Ardiles had more, from my limited memory. It wasn't a bad idea, but it did basically devolve into downvote (cunt-voting?) parties whenever anyone mentioned their score.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:23:28
My Karma is -10032.

It's probably largely down to me trying to 'fix' it so it would go up regardless of what people clicked it. Just some trollish tomfoolery.

Didn't work though, obviously, and I just ended up leaving the counter as it was.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:24:24
If you were on a positive score, you could not have been entering into what I understand to be the true ethos of this forum.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:25:29
If you were on a positive score, you could not have been entering into what I understand to be the true ethos of this forum.

I like to think that almost none of my 12,000 posts on here have been remotely memorable, so that probably does it.

Or at the very least, avoiding the politics thread which was basically a downvote farm.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:25:46
Created by the late, great Whits many moons ago when we needed an alternative to thisis.

Now owned by Barry Scott. If the forum breaks, it's usually him faffing about with stuff.

I don't know about funding? Are there ads? I think ads were mentioned at one point but I don't see any.


Cheers and I've never seen any ads but you would think there is some maintenance cost


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Nemo on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:26:48
We had adverts for someone's sister's dog walking service at one point, but that may have been 15 years ago to be honest.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:30:20
Remarkably, I ended up on minus 15.  For reasons that are not clear to me, my largely benign posts often yield strong reactions by some.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:39:08
Created by the late, great Whits  

Dazzza made it, and the fucker is stil about, I just checked. The late, great Whits carried on the baton.

At the risk of a moderator rectifying the situation, I was on +21 when it got frozen...

Ardiles had more, from my limited memory. It wasn't a bad idea, but it did basically devolve into downvote (cunt-voting?) parties whenever anyone mentioned their score.

My initial instinct was you, but Ardiles may well be right. Not being a cunt probably helped.


Cheers and I've never seen any ads but you would think there is some maintenance cost

Barry has previously said that the site pays for itself. I'm not sure how either, you used to get ads if you were under 100 posts I think, not sure if that is still true.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:42:58
Iím somehow on +36 I think.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:43:35
Iím somehow on +37 I think.


You must have been the voice of reason😃


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:46:15
Dazzza made it, and the fucker is stil about, I just checked. The late, great Whits carried on the baton.


Ah, yes. I remember now.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Bob's Orange on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:46:52

You must have been the voice of reason😃

Hmm. Not sure about that. I did find posting on here a bit more enjoyable before the whole politics thread (Brexit and all that) and online trolling appeared to become Ďfashionableí.

I still enjoy a regular check of the TEF however, it has been a faithful companion over the years for one reason or another!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:49:35
Hmm. Not sure about that. I did find posting on here a bit more enjoyable before the whole politics thread (Brexit and all that) and online trolling appeared to become Ďfashionableí.

I still enjoy a regular check of the TEF however, it has been a faithful companion over the years for one reason or another!

Same here as I was on here for a few years then came off for while but it can be a good companion as everyone has stuff to deal with in life etc


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 20:51:36
I have seen it said by some that the development of cliques has had an adverse impact.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Barry Scott on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:00:11
Barry has previously said that the site pays for itself. I'm not sure how either, you used to get ads if you were under 100 posts I think, not sure if that is still true.

It no longer has any income. The fleet of Mercs us mods drove have long since been removed from our wanking spanners. Google banned the site for pics of ďsuggestive cleavageĒ.

I now pay for it entirely. But itís something like $5 a month which gets lost in amongst the other often pointless expenses I acquire with Digital Ocean.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:00:31
I have seen it said by some that the development of cliques has had an adverse impact.


That is true just like on the Adver forum


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:03:59
Richie wellen dowd are you Sonicyouth reincarnated?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:07:34
A load of shite, I am on minus 2 and I'm a lovely person.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:09:35
my knee cliques when I walk down stairs


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:10:36
my knee cliques when I walk down stairs


Get a bungelow :nod:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:11:54
got to get rid of the kids first


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:12:47
got to get rid of the kids first


Ah could be a while then!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:13:33
A load of shite, I am on minus 2 and I'm a lovely person.

Save that if anyone drives down your road and blips their throttle, you are incandescent with rage


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: RobertT on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:13:56
Oooh, I'm on +38, which can only be because Reg didn't down vote anyone I imagine.

Who is in what clique?  Bamboo has recently found some friends, although I worry it may all end up as the opening story of Points West in a few months, with the white tent being protected by the local constabulary.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:15:25
Oooh, I'm on +38, which can only be because Reg didn't down vote anyone I imagine.

Who is in what clique?  Bamboo has recently found some friends, although I worry it may all end up as the opening story of Points West in a few months, with the white tent being protected by the local constabulary.

I had the recent piece of creative writing in mind


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Richie Wellen-Dowd on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:20:18
It no longer has any income. The fleet of Mercs us mods drove have long since been removed from our wanking spanners. Google banned the site for pics of ďsuggestive cleavageĒ.

I now pay for it entirely. But itís something like $5 a month which gets lost in amongst the other often pointless expenses I acquire with Digital Ocean.

Fair play to you, Barry. I'm sure I've seen ways around this discussed on other sites, not that it seems you're really bothered.

Richie wellen dowd are you Sonicyouth reincarnated?

Nope. Sonic would have known straight away, he was always good at recognising writing styles. I expect he's still around, even if he's not logging in like Dazzza  :)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:20:56
Richie wellen dowd are you Sonicyouth reincarnated?

Amir if i'm not mistaken.

I'm +24. Can I trade them in, like Bitcoin?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:22:17
Is that investing or speculating?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:22:36
Fair play to you, Barry. I'm sure I've seen ways around this discussed on other sites, not that it seems you're really bothered.

Nope. Sonic would have known straight away, he was always good at recognising writing styles. I expect he's still around, even if he's not logging in like Dazzza  :)


As others have said fair play Barry for keeping the site going


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:23:23
Is that investing or speculating?

Fuck knows, i'm just imponderabling.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:24:30
Amir if i'm not mistaken.

I'm +24. Can I trade them in, like Bitcoin?


If you can't how about buying 24 Bristol pounds😁


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:28:33
Thereís a lot of people I miss from this forum who used to have huge input. Yeovil sonic whits spacey the two Lucyís Spencer and his missus, Ralphy ash dean and Charlotte to name a few but life rolls on.
To be fair whits has the only legitimate excuse. The rest all grew up the fucking idiots.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:30:01
Thereís a lot of people I miss from this forum who used to have huge input. Yeovil sonic whits spacey the two Lucyís Spencer and his missus, Ralphy ash and Charlotte to name a few but life rolls on.
To be fair whits has the only legitimate excuse. The rest all grew up the fucking idiots.
But you now have Valid Pint and, for a fleeting moment, STFCNo1Fan.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:33:27
Thereís a lot of people I miss from this forum who used to have huge input. Yeovil sonic whits spacey the two Lucyís Spencer and his missus, Ralphy ash dean and Charlotte to name a few but life rolls on.
To be fair whits has the only legitimate excuse. The rest all grew up the fucking idiots.

Dean is still here


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:35:20
Posting as who? Nobody is that obnoxious and funny at the same time as far as I can see!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: tans on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:41:31
Shrivvy road


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:41:41
Posting as who? Nobody is that obnoxious and funny at the same time as far as I can see!

Shrivvy Road


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:45:44
Ah thatís why I ignore him

Last I heard spacey was writing shit for hignfy


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:46:30
Wouldn't surprise me, he is a funny fucker.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Ginginho on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:48:09
Ah thatís why I ignore him

Last I heard spacey was writing shit for hignfy

I hope thatís true, heís one funny, talented lad.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 21:54:57
He had a mention on QI once


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 23:12:01
Shrivvy Road

DRS?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 23:18:26
DRS?

SSF


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 23:33:15
Fucking hell, I really pressed a few buttons with this one! :clap:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 23:46:05
SSF

Not the firm  ;D
DRS, former poster


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 23:47:18
Not the firm  ;D
DRS, former poster


I wasn't sure if anyone would recognise them!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: bamboonoshop on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 02:34:45
Oooh, I'm on +38, which can only be because Reg didn't down vote anyone I imagine.

Who is in what clique?  Bamboo has recently found some friends, although I worry it may all end up as the opening story of Points West in a few months, with the white tent being protected by the local constabulary.

Lolz I doubt it, more likely Look North  ;)

Think you'll find I am pretty happy to engage with anyone on here Rob T, and I'll even go out my way to help others; even those who have abused that help from time to time (I'm thinking the likes of Mother Brown and Valid Pint) but I won't let a few cunts (the non-endearing ones, not most of us on here as per) change my generally good nature.

Anyway, I have a rather thrilling story to tell you (that I know you'll be happy to read) regarding payment settlement, via the DCA of my former Electricity supplier. As you may remember this dispute was for utilities generated back in April/May 2019. JBZ may also be interested in this, seeing as you both took differing viewpoints to one another. You'll be relieved to read that I will spare you the story here but I shall post it at some point on the Trivial Things...Amuse/Smile Thread.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Shrivvy Road on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 07:40:52
Posting as who? Nobody is that obnoxious and funny at the same time as far as I can see!
Had to reign it in. Karma went right down


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 09:02:58
Lolz I doubt it, more likely Look North  ;)

Think you'll find I am pretty happy to engage with anyone on here Rob T, and I'll even go out my way to help others; even those who have abused that help from time to time (I'm thinking the likes of Mother Brown and Valid Pint) but I won't let a few cunts (the non-endearing ones, not most of us on here as per) change my generally good nature.

Anyway, I have a rather thrilling story to tell you (that I know you'll be happy to read) regarding payment settlement, via the DCA of my former Electricity supplier. As you may remember this dispute was for utilities generated back in April/May 2019. JBZ may also be interested in this, seeing as you both took differing viewpoints to one another. You'll be relieved to read that I will spare you the story here but I shall post it at some point on the Trivial Things...Amuse/Smile Thread.


Revail,all the details I quite enjoy flicking down the page on my ipad making sure I don't miss a paragraph or two😁


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 09:25:50

Get a bungelow :nod:

We moved into a bungalow 4 years back, best thing I ever did as I can do all the maintenance without going up tall ladders as I am shite with heights. Holiday cottage we stayed at in the summer had stairs, nearly killed me over the course of two weeks.

FWIW my Karma score is +4096 but I recall that was mainly because one of the mods, FH I recall, fucked around with it when people were kicking off.

Lolz I doubt it, more likely Look North  ;)


True story, my missus went to school in Yorkshire with a kid called Luke North, what sort of a wanker of a parent does that to their kid up there.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 09:28:20
Lolz I doubt it, more likely Look North  ;)

Think you'll find I am pretty happy to engage with anyone on here Rob T, and I'll even go out my way to help others; even those who have abused that help from time to time (I'm thinking the likes of Mother Brown and Valid Pint) but I won't let a few cunts (the non-endearing ones, not most of us on here as per) change my generally good nature.

Anyway, I have a rather thrilling story to tell you (that I know you'll be happy to read) regarding payment settlement, via the DCA of my former Electricity supplier. As you may remember this dispute was for utilities generated back in April/May 2019. JBZ may also be interested in this, seeing as you both took differing viewpoints to one another. You'll be relieved to read that I will spare you the story here but I shall post it at some point on the Trivial Things...Amuse/Smile Thread.

I await your detailed missive


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Berniman on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 12:31:36
You are all cunts - close the thread..


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 12:37:10
You are all cunts - close the thread..
You are clearly one of us!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: bamboonoshop on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 13:30:35

FWIW my Karma score is +4096 but I recall that was mainly because one of the mods, FH I recall, fucked around with it when people were kicking off.

True story, my missus went to school in Yorkshire with a kid called Luke North, what sort of a wanker of a parent does that to their kid up there.

They say mine is -1717 for similar reasons  :soapy tit wank:

Indeed, still better than Kanye West. I did know a Julie East though but she was from Fylde...maybe her name was a cock up and it was just the direction they wanted to send her in?  :hmmm:
You are all cunts - close the thread..

No, this is clearly the new Scott Twine thread.

Biscuits or Oranges?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 13:34:22
The karma thing was being abused. Calling that out wasn't due to sensitivity or being precious. I'm not anti it, but let's see who presses which button and when. Or better still have a debate, it's a forum after all. Call them a cunt via a reply, hitting a "you're a cunt" button anonymously is a cop out really.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: bamboonoshop on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:06:04
This was my point but it seems like it was turned to me as 'you're being a soft cunt'.

I did kick off about the system but as you say, there was more to it than being a sensitive reaction. I'd much rather be called a cunt than underhandedly. It's kind of akin to the non verbal (or inaudible) bullying elements that go on at secondary school. The ones where kids will whisper to each other (they're saying nothing) but make out it is about another kid, then they'll point and laugh. It's high end cuntduggery.

The Karma then got abused by trolly types who would downvote at every opportunity (I'm talking Sir Dred Ken, Hobodan, Valid Pint, Mother Brown etc).  Then once Mods adapted Karma scores (randomly or not), to take the element away, it pretty much became more pointless. It never mattered per se but I guess if you were being down voted every time, regardless of what you posted it does become more counter-productive.

I know for certain, I would not post for a few days (this is true) and would then put one post on, almost as a test - writing something like 'oh that's great news'. Two or three cunt points would go on. Call me sad for ''testing'' that but I think those that did it were even more sad. Some did try to excuse it, saying different people read posts at different times etc, which of course is true but when you stop posting for 3 or 4 days then you know some accounts are just doing it for the sakť of it.

A good tool, abused as with most half decent things. Still reckon it would have been good with a monetised element integrated in to it. Would change the dynamic and encourage people to write more engaging content but I think I remember Barry saying that he wasn't sure if SimpleMachines could facilitate it.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Bob's Orange on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:09:50
This was my point but it seems like it was turned to me as 'you're being a soft cunt'.

I did kick off about the system but as you say, there was more to it than being a sensitive reaction. I'd much rather be called a cunt than underhandedly. It's kind of akin to the non verbal (or inaudible) bullying elements that go on at secondary school. The ones where kids will whisper to each other (they're saying nothing) but make out it is about another kid, then they'll point and laugh. It's high end cuntduggery.

The Karma then got abused by trolly types who would downvote at every opportunity (I'm talking Sir Dred Ken, Hobodan, Valid Pint, Mother Brown etc).  Then once Mods adapted Karma scores (randomly or not), to take the element away, it pretty much became more pointless. It never mattered per se but I guess if you were being down voted every time, regardless of what you posted it does become more counter-productive.

I know for certain, I would not post for a few days (this is true) and would then put one post on, almost as a test - writing something like 'oh that's great news'. Two or three cunt points would go on. Call me sad for ''testing'' that but I think those that did it were even more sad. Some did try to excuse it, saying different people read posts at different times etc, which of course is true but when you stop posting for 3 or 4 days then you know some accounts are just doing it for the sakť of it.

A good tool, abused as with most half decent things. Still reckon it would have been good with a monetised element integrated in to it. Would change the dynamic and encourage people to write more engaging content but I think I remember Barry saying that he wasn't sure if SimpleMachines could facilitate it.

I used to give SRK a negative point everytime I logged on, or whenever I saw him post, whatever it was. Because he irritated me, intensely. Iím 100% sure he couldnít have given a flying fuck so it was kind of pointless.

Probably best itís been removed to be honest.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:32:27
This was my point but it seems like it was turned to me as 'you're being a soft cunt'.

I did kick off about the system but as you say, there was more to it than being a sensitive reaction. I'd much rather be called a cunt than underhandedly. It's kind of akin to the non verbal (or inaudible) bullying elements that go on at secondary school. The ones where kids will whisper to each other (they're saying nothing) but make out it is about another kid, then they'll point and laugh. It's high end cuntduggery.

The Karma then got abused by trolly types who would downvote at every opportunity (I'm talking Sir Dred Ken, Hobodan, Valid Pint, Mother Brown etc).  Then once Mods adapted Karma scores (randomly or not), to take the element away, it pretty much became more pointless. It never mattered per se but I guess if you were being down voted every time, regardless of what you posted it does become more counter-productive.

I know for certain, I would not post for a few days (this is true) and would then put one post on, almost as a test - writing something like 'oh that's great news'. Two or three cunt points would go on. Call me sad for ''testing'' that but I think those that did it were even more sad. Some did try to excuse it, saying different people read posts at different times etc, which of course is true but when you stop posting for 3 or 4 days then you know some accounts are just doing it for the sakť of it.

A good tool, abused as with most half decent things. Still reckon it would have been good with a monetised element integrated in to it. Would change the dynamic and encourage people to write more engaging content but I think I remember Barry saying that he wasn't sure if SimpleMachines could facilitate it.
As usual I read your first three sentences.  Then give up.  Cunt


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:33:19
But only in a TEF way.   ;)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:40:54
Regretfully, if you choose to post on a football related forum, I think that you have to accept that others may not share your view of the world and it is inevitable that you will be trolled and/or abused.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:44:46
Can we have a like option instead?  :)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:50:47
Can we have a like option instead?  :)

Why, so people can whine that they're not getting enough likes?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 14:59:53
Iíd bring the Karma score back because in all honesty, I think some posters have been writing some absolute tripe on this forum over the last few weeks, many threads have been hi-jacked and just turned into a fucking chit chat between certain members .
Theyíve not even gone off topic the usual TEF way, itís just waffling between certain posters and it always seems to be the same few.
I seem to have to scroll through a lot more bollocks than normal to actually find something related to the thread Iím in.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:02:43
In all honesty I think some posters have been writing some absolute tripe on this forum over the last few weeks and many threads have been hi-jacked and just turned into a fucking chit chat between a certain members .
Theyíve not even gone off topic the usual TEF way, itís just waffling between certain posters and it always seems to be the same few.
I seem to have to scroll through a lot more bollocks than normal to actually find something related to the thread Iím in.
My bollocks are quite satisfactory, thank you 😊


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:05:05
Right on cue....


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:05:47
Right on cue....
Your wish is my command, sir!
Anyway, I started this thread and so I can fucking well say what I fucking well want.
Good afternoon, sir.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:07:21
So, is the karma system making a return?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: bamboonoshop on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:16:54
Regretfully, if you choose to post on a football related forum, I think that you have to accept that others may not share your view of the world and it is inevitable that you will be trolled and/or abused.

Of course, I think we mostly, all accept that people will have differing views from time to time but the kind of behaviours and approach, were like the types I mentioned above.

I don't accept that the TEF is as bad as places like Twitter or FB for absolute trollsnotting. There is at least some level of decorum, even if shrouded in a swathe of testes. Which my point being I found it odd, almost unhealthy that accounts would cunt point something that had zero provocation (congratulating someone on their new child or getting a new job) and even more oddly so when there had been a prolonged hiatus. I think you're intelligent enough to understand the difference?

But only in a TEF way.   ;)

I've got used to it. Thank you  :D

I used to give SRK a negative point every time I logged on, or whenever I saw him post, whatever it was. Because he irritated me, intensely. Iím 100% sure he couldnít have given a flying fuck so it was kind of pointless.

Probably best itís been removed to be honest.

I remember you saying BO but SRK and those similar accounts purely only posted to provoke and wind up others. Whilst I'm not a promoter of 'an eye for an eye', the known serial troll accounts (not talking posters who slip into an afternoon of trollsnottery on occasion) duly deserved a good ''cunting'' and being told that they weren't welcome. Especially when overstepping boundaries regarding racism, homophobic comments and other stuff that really should have escaped them once they left school (if they ever went). Then again, if someone is still shitting yellow at 40+ then they won't change. Unfortunately.

Why, so people can whine that they're not getting enough likes?


+1  ;)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:44:16
Iíd bring the Karma score back because in all honesty I think some posters have been writing some absolute tripe on this forum over the last few weeks and many threads have been hi-jacked and just turned into a fucking chit chat between certain members .
Theyíve not even gone off topic the usual TEF way, itís just waffling between certain posters and it always seems to be the same few.
I seem to have to scroll through a lot more bollocks than normal to actually find something related to the thread Iím in.

Like


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Miles Mayhem on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:48:27
Agreed. Can we keep transfer rumours to bloody rumours. I get all excited when I see a new post has arrived. Have we got the new striker we so badly need? No itís some shitty chit chat bollox that only 2 people are involved in.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: JBZ on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:48:54

I don't accept that the TEF is as bad as places like Twitter or FB for absolute trollsnotting. There is at least some level of decorum, even if shrouded in a swathe of testes. Which my point being I found it odd, almost unhealthy that accounts would cunt point something that had zero provocation (congratulating someone on their new child or getting a new job) and even more oddly so when there had been a prolonged hiatus. I think you're intelligent enough to understand the difference?


Just from my limited perspective, I was not bothered about getting c*** points even for, using that word again, benign posts.  I see it as part and parcel of posting to this type of forum - particularly as a relatively new member who is not part of the 'old TEF clique'.  

I am not sure that one's karma score was/is worth taking to heart.




Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:54:00
Iíd bring the Karma score back because in all honesty I think some posters have been writing some absolute tripe on this forum over the last few weeks and many threads have been hi-jacked and just turned into a fucking chit chat between certain members .
Theyíve not even gone off topic the usual TEF way, itís just waffling between certain posters and it always seems to be the same few.
I seem to have to scroll through a lot more bollocks than normal to actually find something related to the thread Iím in.

It's like one of those awkward nights out where you somehow ended up in the wrong crowd.

Stuck with characters that can't handle their booze, making jokes that aren't funny but laugh hysterically regardless while oblivious that everybody around them is bored to tears and really not having a good time. The type that think they're being cool because they're being irritating in an 'oh, what are you like?' kind of way but the reality is that they're being irritating in a 'for the love of god, PLEASE just go away', kind of way.

You know --- those nights where you are really thinking about sneaking off and going elsewhere. I've actually found myself visiting that facebook group in the last few days.

Hopefully it'll pass.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:56:05
It's like one of those awkward nights out where you somehow ended up in the wrong crowd.

Stuck with characters that can't handle their booze, making jokes that aren't funny but laugh hysterically regardless while oblivious that everybody around them is bored to tears and really not having a good time. The type that think they're being cool because they're being irritating in an 'oh, what are you like?' kind of way but the reality is that they're being irritating in a 'for the love of god, PLEASE just go away', kind of way.

You know --- those nights where you are really thinking about sneaking off and going elsewhere. I've actually found myself visiting that facebook group in the last few days.

Hopefully it'll pass.

 :nod:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Bogus Dave on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:57:48
wHY dOnT wE gEt AnY nEw PoStErs


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Barry Scott on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 15:59:47
Can we have a like option instead?  :)

This is what I want. I've toyed with making such a thing work, but my time bank is low at the moment and I want to migrate to a spangly new server first.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:01:52
It's like one of those awkward nights out where you somehow ended up in the wrong crowd.

Stuck with characters that can't handle their booze, making jokes that aren't funny but laugh hysterically regardless while oblivious that everybody around them is bored to tears and really not having a good time. The type that think they're being cool because they're being irritating in an 'oh, what are you like?' kind of way but the reality is that they're being irritating in a 'for the love of god, PLEASE just go away', kind of way.

You know --- those nights where you are really thinking about sneaking off and going elsewhere. I've actually found myself visiting that facebook group in the last few days.

Hopefully it'll pass.


I've done similar in my young days only it was a bird I didn't fancy so sneaked off!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Quagmire on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:02:16
wHY dOnT wE gEt AnY nEw PoStErs

Its not a dig at new posters though is it? Itís a dig at posters who are hijacking threads with absolute nonsense.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:07:04
I imagine this to be what it's like being stuck in a fucking room with Jedward.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:10:43
wHY dOnT wE gEt AnY nEw PoStErs

Is it because web forums peaked in about 2005 and the youth of today have better things to do?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:15:14
Its not a dig at new posters though is it? Itís a dig at posters who are hijacking threads with absolute nonsense.
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Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Exiled Bob on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:15:52
True story, my missus went to school in Yorkshire with a kid called Luke North, what sort of a wanker of a parent does that to their kid up there.
I once knew a kid called Wayne King (also a true story). Now that is cuntyness of the highest calibre.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:20:43
wHY dOnT wE gEt AnY nEw PoStErs

In other news, the TEF has had more than 100 new members in seven of the last twelve months. Before this year it had only happened three times in the previous eleven years where stats are available (Sept 2012, Jan 2011*, May 2010)

There are loads of new members. Whether or not any of them are any good really is up to your own tastes I susppose.

* Jan 2011 had over 400, which is a huge outlier. I wonder if people had to re-register then for some reason?

Source: http://thetownend.com/index.php?action=stats

I realise nobody actually cares that much, but I like numbers.

Edit: Having compared those stats to the members list, they really don't agree. Do lots of spam accounts get deleted or something?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Arriba on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:21:23
I've no idea who is being moaned about with chats etc but this forum has derailed for as long as I can remember. Rarely do topics stick to subject. Just skip past stuff you don't want to read. Not difficult is it?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:26:44
Just skip past stuff you don't want to read. Not difficult is it?

Irony much?


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:27:10
I imagine this to be what it's like being stuck in a fucking room with Jedward.

They had their place in the sun last week putting it to that anti-vaxxer twat from The Corrs!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 16:27:44
In other news, the TEF has had more than 100 new members in seven of the last twelve months. Before this year it had only happened three times in the previous eleven years where stats are available (Sept 2012, Jan 2011*, May 2010)

There are loads of new members. Whether or not any of them are any good really is up to your own tastes I susppose.

* Jan 2011 had over 400, which is a huge outlier. I wonder if people had to re-register then for some reason?

Source: http://thetownend.com/index.php?action=stats

I realise nobody actually cares that much, but I like numbers.

Edit: Having compared those stats to the members list, they really don't agree. Do lots of spam accounts get deleted or something?

The captcha was broken for gawd knows how long, during which time we had zero new members.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 17:28:47
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Trouble is it's about 125% bollocks with some irritating posters.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: pauld on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 17:31:11
Trouble is it's about 125% bollocks with some irritating posters.
Well yes, but we're learning to put up with you :)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 17:46:24
I don't have to read my shite  :)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 17:48:12
I don't have to read my shite  :)


Don't be too self critical it's the same as everyone else's 😁


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 19:43:29
Scott Twine.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 19:46:06
In other news, the TEF has had more than 100 new members in seven of the last twelve months.
Glory hunters.

And cunts to a man.  Or woman. etc


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 19:47:40
Glory hunters.

And cunts to a man.  Or woman. etc

Or in between😁 You never know these days!


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Old_Town_Red on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 21:45:30
The captcha was broken for gawd knows how long, during which time we had zero new members.

Think it was only until I mentioned I couldnít join the forum on twitter (Had been trying to register for ages) that it was fixed so you can all blame me  :smugfu:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: bamboonoshop on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 23:44:26
It's like one of those awkward nights out where you somehow ended up in the wrong crowd.

Stuck with characters that can't handle their booze, making jokes that aren't funny but laugh hysterically regardless while oblivious that everybody around them is bored to tears and really not having a good time. The type that think they're being cool because they're being irritating in an 'oh, what are you like?' kind of way but the reality is that they're being irritating in a 'for the love of god, PLEASE just go away', kind of way.

You know --- those nights where you are really thinking about sneaking off and going elsewhere. I've actually found myself visiting that facebook group in the last few days.

Hopefully it'll pass.

Thing is FH, you're quite the sly poster on here. What you typed out above is pretty much how you behave. Thinking you're cool letting us know you're getting on the molly or still getting a mohican. How old. Are you? Oh I do apologise, it must be so cool to be in "your crowd".

Ever since joining this forum, you stand out as one who has pretty much never given me the light of day or even been adult enough to separate any similarities and differences. I really don't know why because I don't believe we've ever fucking met.

Oh, except for some very brief time when we agreed about Flerfers, you genuinely must fucking hate it when there have been things I've said, that you know you agree with but you can't bring yourself to say it.

You're the annoying cunt people don't want to be with on a night out. Maybe take stock before making out how "cool" you think you are. It wouldn't surprise me if you are one that makes up troll accounts either. Again, too cool for school...or is that phrase outdated and unfunny now? Please let us know what is current.

Sorry, we don't all match up to your standards, didn't realise there was an authority on the style of writing?! Remember you're fortunate enough to write for your job, we can't all be as perfect or as cool as yourself.

Love you  :)


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: 4D on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 23:49:24

Don't be too self critical it's the same as everyone else's 😁

It really isn't, I don't tend to ramble on about inane shite, I keep it brief.


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Thursday, September 3, 2020, 23:52:54
It really isn't, I don't tend to ramble on about inane shite, I keep it brief.

😀


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Friday, September 4, 2020, 00:52:46
It really isn't, I don't tend to ramble on about inane shite, I keep it brief.
My inane shite is better than your inane shite.  So there.  Is that brief enough?
Iím off back to the STFC Player Rumours thread to discuss Jimmy Quinnís malfunctioning iPad.
 :bye:


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, September 4, 2020, 00:54:40
My inane shite is better than your inane shite.  So there.  Is that brief enough?
Iím off back to the STFC Player Rumours thread to discuss Jimmy Quinnís malfunctioning iPad.
 :bye:


Thasts not the only thing that's malfunctioning these days  :(


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Berniman on Friday, September 4, 2020, 11:09:05
I don't tend to log on in the evenings these days, just catch up in the morning and maybe a few times during the day if there are things going on..

Logging on in the morning and reading some of the stuff that has been posted overnight is sometimes funny, sometimes bizarre and sometimes tedious - but it is always interesting seeing somebody's online persona depending on the time of the day and (in some cases) the obvious amount of alcohol (other substances are available) that has been consumed..

I find myself having to read back some posts to understand what exactly the point was that was trying to be made - it certainly gets the brain working in some cases..


Title: Re: TEF Karma
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Friday, September 4, 2020, 11:11:30
I don't tend to log on in the evenings these days, just catch up in the morning and maybe a few times during the day if there are things going on..

Logging on in the morning and reading some of the stuff that has been posted overnight is sometimes funny, sometimes bizarre and sometimes tedious - but it is always interesting seeing somebody's online persona depending on the time of the day and (in some cases) the obvious amount of alcohol (other substances are available) that has been consumed..

I find myself having to read back some posts to understand what exactly the point was that was trying to be made - it certainly gets the brain working in some cases..


It's no different to listening back to prime ministers questions as the behaviour is the same!