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Title: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 31, 2020, 11:56:16
BetVictors League 1 preview.

https://blog.betvictor.com/en-gb/sports/football/league-one/league-one-season-preview-1-24-predictions/

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Swindon Town

Prediction 6th

Wellens has done superbly at Swindon Town, turning the Wiltshire outfit from League Two’s underachieving bottom half fodder into title-winners in 16 months.

Fresh challenges are afoot for the Mancunian motivator, as his side enter League One with forward Eoin Doyle – who scored 40% of their goals last season – now at Bolton.

It’s plausible, though, that Swindon can get a healthy goal return from Tyler Smith – the energetic Sheffield United loanee was described as “a star in the making” while at Doncaster – or any other poacher brought in, because their attractive system is designed to create chances at will.

Losing Yates and Anderson to Blackpool was a blow. But Town have signed versatile playmaker Jack Payne, who has thrived in four of his five League One stints.

Swansea loanee goalkeeper Steven Benda, meanwhile, is set to be replaced by Manchester United loanee Matěj Kovář, compared favourably to Dean Henderson.

Gritty anchor man Anthony Grant and technician Michael Doughty have their strong midfield partnership threatened, potentially, by the loan signing of Matthew Smith, who must have been given some assurances of game-time after featuring recently for Arsenal’s first team.

The anticipated fixture pile-up means Wellens will be hoping defensive leader Mathieu Baudry, talented centre-back Dion Conroy, full-back turned centre-back Zeki Fryers, versatile full-back Rob Hunt, tough tackler Jordan Lyden, unpredictable forward Diallang Jaiyesimi and assist-maker Kaiyne Woolery can stay fit for the duration.

If so, Swindon’s swashbuckling style could see them upset some of the more obvious promotion contenders.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, August 31, 2020, 11:57:38
I'd take that. 


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:04:48
I'd take that. 
Many clubs forums and the press have us down as "dark horses" this coming season. It seems like a lot of our own fans can't see that though and have us down as strugglers.

I think if we can get 1 decent experienced goal poacher then we will be around the play offs, if we don't then it will be mid table. I do feel the goals will be spread around the team a lot more this season with J Smith and Payne as well as T Smith chipping in with a fair few between them.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: tans on Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:15:04
The guy that wrote those is very knowledgable, knows everything!


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Batch on Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:21:12
Quote from: tans
The guy that wrote those is very knowledgable, knows everything!

even knows Woolery has signed a new deal before the club :)


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:44:22
The guy that wrote those is very knowledgable, knows everything!
We all hope he’s right!


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: The Artist Formerly Known as Audrey on Monday, August 31, 2020, 12:51:37
We are an outstanding 2/1 to beat Charlton Saturday.

I’ve invested. Bollocks to this cryptocurrency!


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: RobertT on Monday, August 31, 2020, 13:07:28
In our favour will be that League One doesn't really have a Newport or even a Colchester (the version they kept figuring out caused us problems, not the decent footballing version they started with in games).  It's also a good bit of design by Wellens that we can play with the ball or on the counter.  That means teams can't just set-up to play a single way against us.  Go back to the recent past and some of our possession based teams have looked likely to succumb to a single goal defeat after passing it around for 65% of the game.  Wellens has us looking good with possession to stop teams just sitting back, but also we look a real threat on the counter so teams can;t just press us either.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 31, 2020, 13:57:46
Many clubs forums and the press have us down as "dark horses" this coming season. It seems like a lot of our own fans can't see that though and have us down as strugglers.

There are just too many imponderables to make a reasoned case as to how things might pan out....


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Monday, August 31, 2020, 13:59:27
In our favour will be that League One doesn't really have a Newport or even a Colchester (the version they kept figuring out caused us problems, not the decent footballing version they started with in games).  It's also a good bit of design by Wellens that we can play with the ball or on the counter.  That means teams can't just set-up to play a single way against us.  Go back to the recent past and some of our possession based teams have looked likely to succumb to a single goal defeat after passing it around for 65% of the game.  Wellens has us looking good with possession to stop teams just sitting back, but also we look a real threat on the counter so teams can;t just press us either.

The nearest team with that style would be AFC Wimbledon


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 31, 2020, 14:04:13
The nearest team with that style would be AFC Wimbledon
Fleetwood and Accrington play a similar style and of course not forgetting Northampton.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Jimmy Quinn on Monday, August 31, 2020, 14:05:41
Fleetwood and Accrington play a similar style and of course not forgetting Northampton.

I forget about the thuggery of Joey Barton and the ever efficient Accrington


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: JBZ on Monday, August 31, 2020, 14:13:49
Not a bad write up by BetVictor. Let's hope that they are right.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 31, 2020, 15:38:26
There are just too many imponderables to make a reasoned case as to how things might pan out....

Love it Reginald :)

I thought it was you who wrote the first sentence of the article. Especially the "...League Two's underachieving bottom half fodder..." part, then I realised you would most definitely have written 'Div 4'  :)


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 16:29:27
There are just too many imponderables to make a reasoned case as to how things might pan out....
That translates as “I haven’t got a fucking clue!”


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Peter Venkman on Monday, August 31, 2020, 16:33:58
That translates as “I haven’t got a fucking clue!”
Its the Reg way you will get used to it in time.

There are still a couple of imponderables to settle before we should start to think about how the PO's might shape, as we're the only side that know we'll finish.

 Losing at ColU on Tuesday, will give them an excellent chance of avoiding the drop, if they can get something off Preston on Sunday, Franchise have Yeovil at home.

 Chesterfield at Bramall Lane on Sunday.....ideally we'd like Chesterfield to win and Franchise to take the auto, which could mean us v Chesterfield and Blades v Preston.

Firstly... I think Wellens gets this as a free shot, although we do have more of an answer to some of the imponderables which made it difficult to get a feel for today.

But one thing is clear we need to dust down the   (https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTILbm2YWgE3l2YI4YSThYICJvYffVedvg2asyqgKzr5SHNsy-a)

Of the imponderables.... firstly the injuries seem genuine, those that had them down as tactical look to be wrong. Secondly, the players look to have reacted badly to Wellens/Hunt..... hardly surprising after what he said about approach, which is completely at odds with the requirements of a relegation battle.  Thirdly, Sheridan would know this and so just set up for a basic Div 4 style, to be competent and that should be enough. Fourthly...the whole week seems to have fucked the players heads.

Notts v Numb, a draw would have been handy, but Notts are now well in the shit. 

Certainly this would be the most damaging performance for a new manager in our history...

Imponderables, which are more my thing, aren't quite the same as variables. Imponderables sprung up v Carlisle at the CG.... these are factors, we can't really see how thye'll impact in advance due to the unusual circumstances.  In the Carlisle case the imponderables caused an unusual scoreline.

We know much more about how this one looks, so a win would be a surprise. The interesting imnponderable is this is Wellens, only second away game, could the style of play he's trying to inculcate actually work and be effective at Blundell Park when so many other decent Town sides have tried and failed?

I've really no idea what you're on about.... but will try and pick a way through. Rob made the point about Power getting concerned about the declining league position, causing him "to stem the bleeding" I suggested that Wellens could be his answer to that.

If the second line refers to Saturday.... I said too many imponderables to make a call then listed a few. I had no idea.... having no idea why would I then want to say we'll do this or that?  Makes no sense.

I'm fairly confident I said that Wellens got Sat and PV as free shots...and then we'll start needing to see that he's understanding the squad as we'll have 10 or so games before anything can happen in the window.

As for turning corners.... yes it would be a good idea and if we could find say 3 wins and a couple of draws in those 10 games, it would keep us above the drop line.... anything less and it will be tenuous. To provide context the last 10 have provided 2 wins and 3 draws.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 31, 2020, 16:42:07
There's a lot of imponderables in there  :pint:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Wobbly Bob on Monday, August 31, 2020, 16:53:11
is pondering the imponderable like fathoming the unfathomable.  :headhurts:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: JBZ on Monday, August 31, 2020, 16:56:57
Bamboo- will we see a sponsored post containing predictions from your partner internet betting provider?


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:09:49
Its the Reg way you will get used to it in time.

Christ! Life’s too short for all that shit.
I haven’t got a fucking clue covers all the bases as far as I can see.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:10:31
There's a lot of imponderables in there  :pint:

The key is in the definition provided......

" Imponderables sprung up v Carlisle at the CG.... these are factors, we can't really see how they'll impact in advance due to the unusual circumstances"


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:15:43
The key is in the definition provided......

" Imponderables sprung up v Carlisle at the CG.... these are factors, we can't really see how they'll impact in advance due to the unusual circumstances"
He’s making out that he has got a fucking clue.  But he hasn’t really.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:25:28
He’s making out that he has got a fucking clue.  But he hasn’t really.

I'll repeat what I said....

"There are just too many imponderables to make a reasoned case as to how things might pan out...."


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:36:33
I haven’t got a fucking clue covers all the bases as far as I can see.

You’ve got it spot on


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:36:50
To be fair, Reg is right. Our squad is not complete, we still need two strikers, another keeper and possibly a winger. As it stands, I don't believe our squad is strong enough to compete at the top end of League One. However, Wellens knows this too as he's said we need 5-6 more bodies and I trust him and Jewell to find the talent we need to put together a squad capable of challenging for at least a play off spot.
Last season we didn't get Grant, Benda or Doyle until the season had started, and they were probably our three best players.




Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: JBZ on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:44:27
You have to take it for what it is.  It's an article from a betting website, probably knocked up in 20 minutes.  Making predictions based on conjecture and little in the way of fact is all part of football. You may say it's akin to the earlier debate on who is the bigger team.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 17:46:05
To be fair, Reg is right. Our squad is not complete, we still need two strikers, another keeper and possibly a winger. As it stands, I don't believe our squad is strong enough to compete at the top end of League One. However, Wellens knows this too as he's said we need 5-6 more bodies and I trust him and Jewell to find the talent we need to put together a squad capable of challenging for at least a play off spot.
Last season we didn't get Grant, Benda or Doyle until the season had started, and they were probably our three best players.



No one is saying he’s wrong.  Just that the rest of us have lives to lead, families to feed, daytime television to watch, etc etc :crash:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: OOH! SHAUN TAYLOR on Monday, August 31, 2020, 19:25:36
Haha! Good old imponderables has made its season debut😂😂😂


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 31, 2020, 19:36:30
No one is saying he’s wrong.  Just that the rest of us have lives to lead, families to feed, daytime television to watch, etc etc :crash:

Interesting though they may be, in what way do you think your domestic arrangements have anything to do with how the, hopefuly forthcoming,  unprecedented season will pan out?


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Monday, August 31, 2020, 20:17:23
Interesting though they may be, in what way do you think your domestic arrangements have anything to do with how the, hopefuly forthcoming,  unprecedented season will pan out?
Unfortunately, there are just too many imponderables to make a reasoned case as to how things might pan out....


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 31, 2020, 21:54:44
Bamboo- will we see a sponsored post containing predictions from your partner internet betting provider?

If you mean Unibet...of course not. I got the £50 free bet and the other free bets that happened to be there and once my 3 doubles over an evening, I slopped it all on another basketball O/U points. For £25 outlay, I think I profited at about £430. That'll do. Left £130 in to play with and the rest has made its way to my bank.

 :pint: :pint: :pint:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, August 31, 2020, 22:00:34
Haha! Good old imponderables has made its season debut😂😂😂

I would say there are 5  very obvious imponderables to consider at  the outset.....

1. Will playing BCD negate the traditional concept of home advantage?
2.  Will players who have had a muich longer break than normal, be reinvigorated?   Or will near on 6 months off mean they're rusty or worse?
3. Will Wellens have found a cure  for the Saturday/Tuesday malaise which has dogged us since PdC?   Given there are a dozen such events, it matters.
4. The wage cap.... how will that affect the other clubs in Div 3, may possibly work to our advantage, but can you see the big hitters sticking to it  :hmmm:
5. Ownership of the club.... court case as yet unresolved.

I would put these 5 in the mix with the usual concerns about squad size and quality


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: JBZ on Monday, August 31, 2020, 22:24:41
The suggestion appears to be that, in previous years, one could predict the outcome of the season with absolute certainty but Covid 19 has blown that out of the water. I am not entirely sure that is the case.

Leaving the "imponderables" (many of which apply to all clubs, not just STFC) to one side, it occurs to me that you can express an opinion on how each club might fare on what you do know about them.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 31, 2020, 22:39:20
We'll smash the proverbial excrement out of this league, no matter how many imponderables stand in our way...

Oooh that could be another film in the "Expendables" franchise...


Coming soon, Winter 2020...The...Imponderables!


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: DV Canio on Monday, August 31, 2020, 23:01:18
I hope we do well and win games next season because Reg will hopefully post less If we’re winning.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Monday, August 31, 2020, 23:37:55
I hope we do well and win games next season because Reg will hopefully post less If we’re winning.

The only trouble is...it means I'll post more (I hear blood curdling screams of "is that possible"). Swings and roundabouts I guess   :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 00:11:01
The only trouble is...it means I'll post more (I hear blood curdling screams of "is that possible"). Swings and roundabouts I guess   :girlgiggle:
Beware.  I’ve found my Red Card. And my glasses.  Now, behave.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 00:30:05
Beware.  I’ve found my Red Card. And my glasses.  Now, behave.

Ohhh ffs!  :D I only ever received one booking in my life...but less about my live performance career.

Are you sure its red?  :hmmm:


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Valid Pint on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 07:52:00
I only ever received one booking in my life...but less about my live performance career.

Are you on Chatterbate?


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 08:02:15
I hope we do well and win games next season because Reg will hopefully post less If we’re winning.
Let's not get carried away....


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: HorlocksLegs on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 09:08:05
D3D4 League one preview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmZDnkEoMg


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: bamboonoshop on Tuesday, September 1, 2020, 13:41:58
Are you on Chatterbate?

No but you can see me on MFC. Hth.


Title: Re: Bet Victors L1 preview
Post by: Geoff the Ref on Wednesday, September 2, 2020, 13:52:56
D3D4 League one preview


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=evmZDnkEoMg

Just listened to this - well reasoned, Town upper mid-table is about right.
However, I seem to have a fault with my iPad.  Whichever way up I hold it they seem to think the three-siders are good for promotion.  I think I’m going to have to get it repaired.  Shit, just what I need.
 :crash: :doh: :smack: