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http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/news/4052809.Shutdown_planned_for_Honda/


Very very sad

How the hell are those poor families going to cope for 4 months ?

AND they have prohibited them from looking for alternative work

At least on saturday night swindon will be deluged with Taxi Drivers!

On a serious note, it's a shame but I know that a lot of Honda workers have already seeked out other work or taking the severancy money. If they are waiting to see what happens with their job then they either don't need the money or are a bit silly.

don't they get 80% pay though? It's a bit harsh that they're not allowed to find work during that time.

Not good.

How can they prohibit them from looking for another job?

they own us

50%

Just spoke to my mate and basically he is going to loose equivilant to his mortgage payment for 4 months.

Poor bloke was nearly in tears

Although still not good, i think with other payments over the period it works out at 60% pay. Wasn't aware of the 'no other work' rule though

 Fuck me it's not that bad Fred...I used to talk to my late father about the great depression of the 30's....which basically spanned the decade and brought about WW2, followed by years of austerity, until the late 50's. 

 You get on with it make the most of what you have and cut your cloth according to your means. In this case make the most of being time rich if not dosh rich...

With all due respect Reg, that's not much consolation to those who are feeling it now.

All "other" payments and bonuses have been suspended mate

it works out 60% average pay due to the holidays during the shut down

Bad times indeed then! They've extended the voluntary redundancy window by a bit - anyone would think they wanted people to leave...!

Do we have any TEFer's that work there ?

Fuck 'em...I if I was in their situation and I wanted (or even NEEDED) to work to make up the shortfall, I'm pretty sure that they wouldn't be able to stop me legally.  Temping job it would be then.

I'd say JONNY REEVES might... dont know of any others. Which is strange considering it's a major employer.

I'm a bit with Ironside here, how can they legally stop them from looking for another job?

FFS not like they've been completely made redundant...shit happens.

So you're being paid 60% of what you're used to, which is probably not enough to cover your costs (given that most of us do not have the luxury of 40% take home pay as disposable income).  You can either sit around for 4 months watching Trisha or get out there and do something on the side that keeps the finances ticking over.

Of course Honda workers are going to try earning a little extra.  And the very best of luck to every one of them.  There but for the grace of God...

i,m more concerned about june when we are supposed to return,they said anything over 250hrs banked would mean we wouldn,t get paid for.By that time we are well over that does that mean when we go back we will have to work for nothing untill we,re under this ,it wasn,t made very clear there,s nothing to say they will even need us then, :cry: they,ve got us by the balls            

Honda still have money though Johnny, therefore they can still pay and surely by law still have to pay you.

Contracts are signed for a reason mate, just go up to the Nip cunts and tell them that Swindon ain't in Japan innit.

they,re changing the system to a fixed monthly payment within the banked hours,seems to me they want us to leave

Did you sign an employment contract or not? If so they can't just change it as it suits them.

I am so sorry Johnny

Amen Ardiles

Is the 50 or 60% their basic wage?

Might sound like a cunt, but they should base their mortgage/living around this wage then the bonuses they get are an extra...

Hindsight is a wonderful thing ay? How many people push things to the limit to buy the best place they can  - and indeed have been encouraged to do so?

Hope things pick up for all at Honda, I was unemployed for a while in the late 80's but that was a breeze as a single young man with no kids to support - very different situation for those with families... 

 Well not exactly...there is family  Tax Credit. If your income drops below a certain level, then you get it made up...

God Bless the Labour fucking government

Cunt

 ;)

and how did you base your mortgage on your new pad ?

Nobody does that and nobody saw the recession coming.

On a semi related note Barclays shares dropped by 20% earlier,im convinced a matress is the safest place for money these days.

They're all plastic Chelsea fans. Fuck 'em.

































(Not really)

great, if this leads to WW3 that will be really fucking great won't it !

Nothing stimulates the economy quite like a war.

I'm going to go and watch Black Hawk Down now :)

 Quite....conscript all the cunts under 40 and send them off to Bongo Bongo Land, with Prince Harry at the helm.

 Once more unto the breach, dear friends, once more;
Or close the wall up with our English dead.
In peace there's nothing so becomes a man
As modest stillness and humility:
But when the blast of war blows in our ears,
Then imitate the action of the tiger;
Stiffen the sinews, summon up the blood,
Disguise fair nature with hard-favour'd rage;
Then lend the eye a terrible aspect;
Let pry through the portage of the head
Like the brass cannon; let the brow o'erwhelm it
As fearfully as doth a galled rock
O'erhang and jutty his confounded base,
Swill'd with the wild and wasteful ocean.
Now set the teeth and stretch the nostril wide,
Hold hard the breath and bend up every spirit
To his full height. On, on, you noblest English.
Whose blood is fet from fathers of war-proof!
Fathers that, like so many Alexanders,
Have in these parts from morn till even fought
And sheathed their swords for lack of argument:
Dishonour not your mothers; now attest
That those whom you call'd fathers did beget you.
Be copy now to men of grosser blood,
And teach them how to war. And you, good yeoman,
Whose limbs were made in England, show us here
The mettle of your pasture; let us swear
That you are worth your breeding; which I doubt not;
For there is none of you so mean and base,
That hath not noble lustre in your eyes.
I see you stand like greyhounds in the slips,
Straining upon the start. The game's afoot:
Follow your spirit, and upon this charge
Cry 'God for Harry, England, and Saint George!

 Damn straight

The great depression was the cause of WW2?

Fuck off!

 :soapy tit wank:

WW1 was the cause of WW2.

Huh?

 Of course the aftermath of The Great War caused resentment in Germany, but  :hitler: would never have achieved power without the 30's depression.

 Right wing demagogues love a good recession...they can sniff an opportunity, like a dog sniffs other dogs arses.

 Why do you think Ironside has reappeared?

can't wait for ww3 gonna shot me some ragheads!

True Reg. There were many factors that allowed the Nazis to seize power, WW! and the reccession to name but two. The German penchant for order and control also can't be underestimated.

 That's the bulldog spirit...Lord Kitchener would be proud of you.

Useless prick that he was...........

 SY's not going to like this...

gotta love the tach!

Reg, fuck off and die.  Your such a fucking prick sometimes, in fact, I might just give you a little slap when I see you again if you keep calling me a fucking Nazi.

He's trying to repress you Reg.

 I think he's trying to oppress me...

That too. It's worse than I thought.

My view on Honda is this....Honda as a company have stated that they dont want and wouldnt want any help from our government,they come to Swindon years ago and as a company have employed thousands which is good...but for me for such a massi ve name in the world what else have they done for Swindon,ime a Swindon  boy and i cant see no university,college,or place for youngsters backed by Honda.....fair play to them though because four months off work with at least some pay isnt to bad...if i dont work Monday i dont get payed,i dont like Honda,i didnt like Motorola,because firms like that just use Swindon for its workplace....i travel all over the place in my job and ive seen it all before....and believe me this is just the start....i have to side with Reg on this one..if i was at Honda i would feel that looking at other car firms and the way they have gone,then the guys and girls working there have been lucky....so far.

Somebody save this thread, it's the first time ever Reg has actually come across as ill-informed. Not just ill-informed as well, but as fucking ignorant as the rest of us!

What happened Reg, Google crashed?

Isnt Headlands something to do with Honda these days?

Reg talks out of his arse constantly....unless it's football related pre-premiership then he's fucking goon good...no excuse for being an ignorant twat though...

Yeah, who does he think he is kidding Mr Ironside.

I'm routing for Reg, now this is not a normal thing for me to do ...

Wakey wakey Reg it's time for war ... go get the Nazi!!!! :D

Reg and Dell:

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Theres only one of those great guys still alive!! So I'm Ian Lavender ok.

Don't panic, don't panic, Clive Dunn is still with us.

Is he?
Clive Dunn is just how I imagine Reg, good spot.

  Ironside and the fuzzy-wuzzies... they don't like it up 'em.

The Adver today says "Honda: Can it get any worse?"

Of course it bloody could, they could close the factory full stop and then Swindon would be up the spout.

Well maybe if the car industry cut there cloth like everyone has had to do then i would sympathise as it is why dont they sell cars for half price for a year,why are they so special...no one gave a shit about the thousands of drivers in the shit when Woolies went bust...of course theres a real danger all the car industries will go bust with terrible consequences...but ironically Swindon really thrived after the railways closed...everyone thaught Swindon was finished then.

I must admit I looked at that and thought the same - same old Adver, same old sensation-grabbing-with-no-real-thought headlines....... ::)

The problem is that car companies don't get any money from dealerships until the cars have left the forecourt. Honda don't sell cars like a high street chain store, they sell to a middle man aka the dealer. None of us really have any idea what price cuts the manufacturers are giving the dealers and what proportion of these cuts are being passed on to the consumer.

There are quite a few good offers for new cars aboiut though aren't there?

nothing is going to thrive for quite a while leefer, except for teso's and asda etc.and your comment about woollies is utter bollocks i'm afraid.the general public had alot of sympathy for employees who lost their jobs.

But no government help though eh Arriba,,,,that get offered and given to those lucky car makers on a regular basis....who wants sympathy.

No....thats why they aint selling any.

There are good offers on, but the uncertainty is so widespread nobody wants to blow 10K on a new car while their job isn't safe.

Don't really get your point anyway.

so .... in conclusion
Honda are retaining their workers in Swindon if they want to stay
Honda are paying their workers if they want to go - similar to statutory redundancy
Honda are cunts
Honda are not cunts
There is a huge recession on
We're doomed
WW1,30's recession, WW2, Suez, Cuba, 3-day weeks, miners strikes - we're still here (just about)
All those greedy American bankers and greedy scottish bankers who fucked up are very rich
Reg is now a dumb stupid googler
Ironside has translated a right wing demagogue as being a nazi
Reg is a cunt
Sippo's got a tracker mortgage that's paying him every month
I'm a cunt
MrOG couldn't tackle a fish supper
LucienSanchez is a ladyboy
errrrr - that is all

 I think Ironside and the Fuzzy Wuzzies would be a good name for a band

they could do a cover of "Wank like an Egyptian" (sp?)

 Blitzkrieg Bop

 or

 http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=yu2NqfISm9k