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Am I imagining this or is Andy Murray 2 sets up in the semi's of the US open?

Yes, it's happening. As good as he is - Murray irritates me.

Very entertaining game, Murray pummelled Nadal for 2 sets and was well worthy of his 2-0 lead. He's a break down in the third 3-2 but now we have a rain delay.

edit: annabel croft, I still would

I still think Murray will blow it though. The rain could help him but then it could help Nadal. Most people were starting to watch the tennis more than the drap first half of the football at the pub before the rain came.

You may be right, Nadal is #1 for a reason. But Murray is improving and I doubt that many would have had it down for (worst case) a 5 setter.

Why does Tennis (...and cricket for that matter) stop when its rains?

Why cant they carry on in the rain?

elf n safety

Tennis balls tend not to bounce to well when wet.

You

I'm happy with that.

cricket's stops because bowlers would break their legs in wet weather (somewhere between broken and having a stretched muscle anyway  ;))

the US Open is the best sporting event after the Ashes, probably then the Ryder Cup. Then the Olympics.

I wonder why you post on a football forum. Is there a reason?

I'm not trying to antagonise, I'm just wondering.

He's right about the Ashes and the Ryder cup though. Makes any football look a bit shit.

That's only because we are always in the Ashes and the Ryder Cup.

Ashes is that thing where we are so bad at it that when we do eventually win the players get honoured by the ueen. It a two horse race FFS, and we are consantly done by a nation with half our population (but twice our sunshine).

Ryder Cup is good, largely because anything we can beat the yanks at is good. Golf is dull to watch on TV and too time consuming and difficult to play.

Clearly football pisses on both of them.

Anyone know the odds on Nadal to beat Murray?  Surely worth a flutter if evens or better.

Edit Nadal 5/4 to beat Murray.  Might have a go on that, think Britain's no.1 may get a little nervous if he gets a chance to finish Nadal off.

When is this due to start up again?

22.00 BST

i like andy murray because he is a total cock and everyone hates him, hes like harry enfields teenager kevin, i think hes ace.

Restarts not before 4pm local (2100 BST). Later if by a freak of nature the womens doubles overruns it'll be after then.

Mens final Monday 22.00BST

i like murray.at least he's a proper british bloke and has a bit of grit about him.
henman was a wet fart, and that other mutt faced twat wasn't british at all.

Rusedski has a face like the bottom of my shoe.

Murray is quite unique in how he plays, very interesting to watch and at times utter genius.

fucking soapy tit wank

Ah, yes...the Mosconi Cup of golf.

If he was getting stuffed would he still be British or would he be Scottish?

if he wins hes british, if he loses hes scottish, simple really

murray just lost dropped a set

he's lost it now. cant afford to drop that many break points against nadal

7 break points missed.

Now he's lost his serve and is 2-1 down in set 4

Like Celtic were the first British winners of the European Cup ... and Manure were the first English winners ...

Fer fook's sake.

Henman vs Ivanisovic Mk. II I fear. I really hope he does it though.

Murray breaks back. Get the fook in.

That was SUBLIME :D

Wow, so close to 5-3 too with another break point. 

Murray held serve, 5-4 now, Murray "just" 4 points away - but it's Nadal to serve

I hope he doesn't win. Come on Nadal

It's close. 40-40 with Murray 2 points away now.

Match point for Murray.

He's won.

Yeeeeeeeeeeesssssssssssssssssss. Superb tennis. Get the fuck in.

Just the trivial matter of Federer now!

good result for him.

tho i dont like him, his anti-englishness annoys me, so he can fuck off :P

Didn't he beat Federer the last time they played? He's has a rest until tomorrow although Federer has had an extra day.

He beat him in Dubai back in March, was that the last game they played.

That gives him a 2-1 record in his favour.

YEEEES :D

that was really good, i cant believe im starting to like watching tennis

I may have to sign up for Sky Sports to watch this final.

mardy little twat.

murray that is, not me

Im with Legget on this one!  sweaty bxxxd (Murray not Legget!).

Murray is Scottish but he represents GB. So therefore he represents England and Wales and N Ireland as well. I didn't hear anyone moaning about Chris Hoy winning 3 gold medals because he was Scottish.

i don't recall chris hoy slagging off the english either. or being a spoilt little brat. or generally being a cock.

If we're not supporting petulant brats, why are we on a football forum?

swindon is an addiction :(

chris hoy didnt wear a paraguay shirt in the press in the run-up t the '06 world cup, saying he'll support anyone who plays england. and then 2 years later he says his gran is half english so he'd never say anything bad about england. fuck off you back-tracking petty arogant twat! (murray, not anyone else on here :P)

to be honest i would support anyone who is playing england at the moment, wouldnt it have been ace if andorra had scored yesterday?

yep.

so stop moaning about murray then you cunt

no!

i'm not moaning, i'm bitching.

Murray is a bitter Jock........wonder where his dummy will land when he gets beat in the final.......probably sack another coach........More coaches than Barnes!!!

But he's getting better and better, so maybe changing coaches was doing the right thing.

A certain Amir Khan was bigging up his new coach up until last night  ???

Good to see AM win, one match to go, hope he does it!!!  As Si says he's getting better and better!!!

I was pleased he won, however teh grumpy prick should show some happiness when he won, no emotion

Fair play to him. He a mentality where he thinks fuck the press and public im going to play for myself. Shame some england players dont have that mentality

No doubt about it that Murray can be a stroppy little cock. Maybe that's why he's equalled out best showing at a Grand Slam event since 1936 (Lloyd, Greg the Canadian, Murray). I'd rather a sweaty win things than any other nation to be honest. I even like him more than public school boy loser Henman.

Of course he's playing up the anti-English thing. We'd do the same to the Jocks, and rightly so as they are inferior.

Ha ha good one Batchy boy!

I think people need to chill out a bit about this "Murray anti english" thing.  Why should he be pro english?  He's Scottish, he went over to Spain in his teens to develop as a tennis player, so it's not really even like a Hoy situation where the bloke can reasonably be expected to be grateful for the english amenities in Manchester.  So why should he like england, especially their football or rugby team?  It's just another country, except it's not it's the auld enemy.

That isn't a rant by the way, just a thought.

He does represent GB*, I just don't care if the Scots claim him all to themself. It's nice for the downtrodden to have something to look up to.

*Except when he cries off Davis cup duty or can't be arsed with the Olympics.

That's fine if he represents GB, at Tennis.  However it really doesn't mean that he has to have some sort of respect for the footballers and rugby players of england.

I must admit I never liked Tim Henman, oxford scummer, loved by the beeb, no personality, no passion (apart from the fist clench), stupid face.  Although Greg was okay.

I prefer Murray to that cunt Timmehh

I haven't really decided how much I like/dislike Murray yet, but my hatred for Henman cannot be rivalled.

Henman being a Scummer trumps the Sweaty for my hatred. Can't stand either. Hope Murray loses. If he wanted to endear himself then maybe he could have actually tried at the Olympics.

I wouldn't blame him for that, it's not as if the olympics are the top event on the tennis calender.

Why does everyone hate murray. his personality is ace.  would prefer to see more sportsmen like him tbh

Chalky said "If he wanted to endear himself then maybe he could have actually tried at the Olympics."

But I think the point you are missing is that he doesn't want to endear himself to the english public does he?  If you like him then fair enough, but I don't think he's that bothered about it.  Fair play to the bloke.  And as for the Olympics I don't really see that being the "dream" for the modern day tennis professional, a grand slam is what it's all about.

To be honest, I think murray is a whiney little scotch cunt.

But as I have no interest in tennis whatsoever, I don't give a toss whether he wins or not.

PS. Did you watch Braveheart on telly last night Jan? You gotta love Gibson, his dislike of The English is hysterical.

FREEEEEEEEEDOM!!!!

and the jews.

Have you committed wificide then? And your avatar looks like a crutch shot. I've got one of those in the kitchen here, i.e. an uplighter not a semi-nude lady.

What's the fact he's scottish got to do with the fact he's a "cunt"?  And no, despite my dad being Scottish I don't feel the need to watch the most Scottish film/programme on the box every night!!  Although I do like Braveheart cracking film, very entertaining.

I watched that Charlie bloke get from Ireland to Dover using "local" transport instead. 

Do you feel the need to watch trainspotting on a daily basis janaage?

Yes, I do.  How did you know?  I love that film too, apart from the baby crawling on the ceiling, that looked crap.

I actually typed this message just after taking a sip from my Irn Bru that I bought at lunch.  (That's true).

Irn Bru made from sugarrrrrr, more like I'm just sat here trying to work out where I'm gonna get the rest of my RDA of sugar from today, seeing though I've just go 38% for one can of IB.  Maybe this wham bar sat on my desk will take care of it.

You're right Jan, being scotch and being a cunt aren't mutually exclusive.

They do go together rather well though..................

I like Andy Murray's style (or lack of), and I would like him if he was German, Australian, South African, French... whatever.

After his game there was some video footage of him getting in Will Ferrell's ear. Very dry, and very funny.

Did anyone see him chatting with Will Ferrell after his win yesterday? Quite bizarre

I watched this in a Spanish hotel bar, and the only reason I was cheering for the twat was to wind up the locals. good fun.

finals starting now, federer holds serve in the first game. can't decide whether i'm really interested in this or not, might just go to bed.

Federer looks good.  Don't fancy AM's chances here.

I'm surprised you're still awake. That's pretty good going.

what channel we talking?

sky sports one

http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/US_Open2.html

It's on here too, for the non-sky sports subscribers amongst us.

Good man Jan. Sticking with the radio for now, cmon Andy. Broken back :D

thats a nasty injury.

he's getting his ass handed to him

Oh really? he's turning this round.

i wasnt watching and just saw the score. 2-2 now though. wooooo

3 break points for three in a row. Cmon.

Fair play he is turning the screw a bit.needs to make the most of those break points though

2-0, no way back now

Murray is a spent force, 4-0 down in the 3rd.

Fed is back to is best and is making it look easy.

6-2, 7-5, 6-2.

Federer was awesome. He's back.

Murray has sacked his coach and blamed the English land clearance for his defeat.....jock knob....

You could see from the first set that Federer had it in the bag, okay he looked like he'd make a fight of it in the second but I think Federer is just too good.  I don't know about Fed being back, not sure he ever really went away! 

Still over half a million quid in Murray's back pocket for his efforts, I bet he won't be able to sleep tonight knowing that he hasn't got the unconditional support of Great Britain and Northern Ireland.

When Fed has a couple of winless tournaments he's definitely not at his best. Yesterday he just blew Murray away - he's back to his best.

I think Murray suffered as much mentally as physically. That match against Nadal took a lot out of him on both counts.  The pressure must be immense even if it isn't on a conscious level.

He was in a similar position of 'how will he ever be good enough to  beat him' after playing Nadal in Wimbledon.  But he found a way past Nadal, now all he has to do is find a way past probably the greatest player to play the game (although he's already beaten Federer twice).

I think Murray will win a grand slam in the next two years, he rise has been amazing really. To think was it two or three years ago that the lad couldn't get through a five set match without the trainer coming out two or three times.  Good on him!

Hope you are right, he looks the real deal but only time will tell.

fucking scottish loser.

Racialist.

Racialistist

He's scottish. he lost

its all FACT

And he makes his anti English feelings known.so hes a racist!

Im going to put on my SeeYou Jimmy wig on in retaliation.

No he hasn't said he's anti english, he's said he hopes your football team lose, can we not separate wanting a team to lose a game from hating a particular nation's people?

Wanting a team to lose is very much being anti that team.

Yes that's right Sam, wanting a TEAM to lose is very much being anti that TEAM, but it does not make me a racist.  If I want the US to lose a football match that's not to say I hate the US.  I just don't want to see them win, it has nothing to do with my mate from Portland, or the Americans I have met, I just don't want to see the US be successful.  Same goes for england's football and rugby team. 

As you'd expect my closest friends/family are english and I'm glad, they're a good bunch, doesn't mean I want to see their football team do well.

i fucking hate you jannage but i want you to win at anything you do.

Ha ha!!!  Cheers fella! 

The Jocks just love it when we lose - nuff said.
I was in Gran Canaria a few years back we were playing Germany and they all came in with Germany shirts on.
All skulked off at 5-1!!
Also replied to a few emails taking the pixx out of non qualification for the Euros recently.........i asked them how i would manage sitting out a major tournament.......as they have had enough practice over the years!

Murray can win a slam but the likes of federer and nadal being around for a long time yet will hardly help him. They are a cut above the rest includng Murray.

And of course england fans never do anything of the sort to antagonise the scots?

Federer was amazing and showed it. He would have beaten anyone last night.

Taking a step back and to put Murray's achievement into perspective, Nadal does not like that surface at all (never made the final), whereas Federer never loses there. The boy did well to make the final but I really don't think he has closed the gap on the top two in real terms.

i think it's because even though i slag it off all the time, i actually quite like it

take the football fun culture in england - on the one hand i think it's pretty pathetic and but on the other, i think it's brilliant

my views on football are completely paradoxical, but i only bother to say the bad stuff here because there's enough people talking about the good bits. and it's funny watching people getting wound up by a few off the cuff comments

going back to dv's question about cricket in the rain - one analogy i thought of, is a fast bowler playing on hard ground with short grass and only small spikes, if it rains it's like trying to run in 20 yards on an ice rink in trainers before jumping but when you land the ground gives way underneath you. doesn't sound like much fun to me either

back to the tennis... murray was a pleasure to watch during the open. his first serve has improved massively (needs the second to follow suit) but it wasn't as good in the final as previous rounds. that and federer was in irrestible form

It's a fair point, but physically and mentally he was much tougher against Nadal than at any previous point in his career.

The points gap betwen Murray (4) and Djorkivic (3) is big, but I think he will show he is improving by bridging this gap.

I've got a feeling that Murray has peaked.