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Anyone have any idea of whether this is all ticket .. I dont want to book travel in case I dont get a ticket for match ..

emailed the club .. no reply

nothing on website

 Given their stadium holds about 30K, I wouldn't have thought so. I know last season they weren't using it all.

Have they even got seats in the top tier yet?

i wont spend any of my money going to that disgrace of a football club.
a play off semi final would probably have me changing my mind though

I've held off going there so far, but i really want to give them some stick, so might go this year.

No pubs near the ground could make me decide not to bother...

we could take a copy of Match magazine and make our own fun  ;)

So much for your new efforts this season! ;-)

I might go just to go to Ikea...

And to shit on one of their seats. Leave a mark like.

I'm taking a car load up. New ground, a bit of plastic bashing, wind them up about Di Matteo a bit...sounds like a right laugh!

Think we'll get there nice and early, hit a pub then drive/bus it out to the ground.

Oh yeh, as for all ticket, that would be a joke considering they have a 30,000 seater stadium. They should be willing to give us atleast 5,000 I'd have thought so not much chance of it selling out!

they only gave northampton 3500

I also have a full car so DV, Si and Axs need to let me know if they can't make it.

I'm away on hols for this so not going, I'd have probably gone just to see their new stadium, but I don't like giving them my money tbh.

Although I dislike them and everything they represent, its a new stadium!

I know, that's why I'd have probably gone had I been about.  Should be a good day, despite lack of pubbage.

Franchise away will never be as good as January 1st 2007. That was one hell of an away day!

great away day, that Dv, watching people in the pub text diamandis, hurling abuse at o hanlon pre kick off.

watching Tails abuse people in the street and threaten to stab people.

Yeovil ringing up Petr Cech to wish him well from his recovery from injury, and as you said people ringing Diamandis

Again, Tails throwing up on the Town End when we got back.

Blackcurrant/McLovin/SomethingSanchez telling me he was going to leave his job, get fit and join the RAF!!!

....and we bloody won. MK missed a penalty and had a goal disallowed for offside

... and herthaB's mini-bus broke down :D

the words longest journey

and the worlds best hat!!

When i lose my job in September DV... just wait...

I'm going to this one and am hoping large numbers of Town fans do the same.

I am seriously pissed off that 3 of our best away days this season to Hereford, Northampton and Walsall have been pretty much ruined by being midweek games with the inevitable huge reduction in our support. This will also make us look crap in the away support tables published elsewhere.

Given it's fairly close proximity, Franchise could be the next best thing. 

I can assure you that it wasn't very funny at the time....

I can assure you, being on the other bus, that it was :D

Good point.........

As I live in MK I will def be going. As Bushey is not allowed to go (his g/f said he couldn't) notsure who I am going with but will def be going.

My advice would be not to go to Bletchley which is where the ground is as it's shit whole but instead to get pissed up in Milton Keynes Central then get a cab which are cheap to the ground.

That was a brilliant away day,one of the best i've ever had,i was so drunk  :D Being on the broken down minibus was ok for us poxfordshire lot as we all got lifts back,the poor lot who were left behind!!

I'm living in hope that Cheltenham on the 16th is as good a day out!

1st January 2007! What a day! "YOU GINGER TWAT! Sorry Reeves". Oh, and the fact we won helped. As did the fact I was on the minibus that didn't break down!

That was a great day!

I didn't call you a ginger twat did i??I was very drunk at the time but it doesn't seem like something i'd say :(

I think he was referring to the increasingly abusive Tails.

"Tails, we're over here!"

That New Year one was a tough old day, it took me 30 minutes to drink the 1st can of beer.  Fred was in cracking form, whoever let him give directions on the attempt to exit the car park!!!!  "Come on you bastards....sing"

The away game was ace, paddy and dex going metal at the penalty save! wankers

I could judge how drunk i was by the fact i shouted at Dex,and tbh i normally wouldn't speak to him cause he scares me  :D

I also assulted Jayohaitchenn with my handbag.Twas a great day ;D

No Larwood, you didn't insult me, don't worry! I was referring to Tails' overly drunken state. I seem to remember him telling a young boy to stop acting like a twat, in response to Si telling him to stop acting like a twat!

that was me

we were walking to the ground and I was worried he wasnt going to get it. I just had a quiet word and told him to stop acting like a twat.

He turned to this couple walking across with their young children and said 'ssssshhhh stop acting like a twat'

I walked on and left him behind

As red 7 said,  I am seriously pissed off that 3 of our best away days this season to Hereford, Northampton and Walsall have been pretty much ruined by being midweek games.
Plus Leyton Orient away on Boxing Day.  A game I always go to but never drive to  (parking being a problem)

Orient is all about getting a Mini bus

twat is abit harsh.

your not allowed she has said you have to do a couple thing as it's her weekend off. Just admit it.

I think Bushey's reaction made it pretty clear that you're speaking the truth GFM.

Nah I just get pissed off with him at times, as there are other things in life at teh mo but he dont accept that :)

oi ben contact me and get your cd player

First comes football, then mates, then g/f but bb dont accept that :)

True. I was busy telling Fred to keep his mouth shut. He was doing a very good job until he saw the lady copper :D

we were on to a loser with Fred when he fell out of the mini bus and strolled over to the cop car, knocked on their wndow to say hello with his bottle of Tia Maria still in hand, and I thought I was a bit drunk!

Sounds like a plan but who is going to drive. Mr Hayward is long gone.....

Have a potential driver but going to wait and see how much it costs first.

17 seater usually works out about £15 each.

Yeah its looking that way, but cost is ok by the looks of it.  Ill post something proper when I can get hold of said driver.

has he given up on stfc? or just the loud and proud thing?

I don't think I'll bother. But saying that, I suspect I'll probably be there

Will probably go to this game, how much is the SAS bus?

I will never support franchise football financially or in any other way.
I will never watch a game of football in Milton Keynes until a non league club is promoted through the leagues and wins the right to be there.
Stubborn?  Yep.  Love football.  Hate the Franchise.

My dislike of the dongs is outweighed by my wish to support my team.

Hypocritical? Yep.

It's a personal choice, I know.  And I know that I'm in a minority.  If you must go, please don't buy a programme, sing your heart out, eat lots of fruit that lunchtime and forget to flush when you have used their facilities.

i love Franchise

Who cares about Milton Keynes?

Hi people - you may remember me before - tails know's who I am. I met a few of you in Weatherspoons before the game last time you came down. You were a good laugh.

You can still go to weatherspoons but thats a trek and a half good 1/2hr 40 mins to the ground. Knowing the way you lot drink - that will not do :-)

Head for the Beacon on mount farm- only a 5-10 min walk and cheap beer. But be warned - no sky or anything like that.

Beers can be had in the ground at 1/2 time but it's £3 a bottle of carslberg - and providing I have not got in your end before hand - Balti pies as well.

Hope you enjoy the new stadium. Still not completed so I cant see them giving you more than 3,500 as the capacity at the min is approx 18,000.

Anyway - see you there and may the best team win!

I so want to abuse you but you seem very friendly. it's a conundrum.

If your a female over the legal age - abuse all you like. If not - banter only im afraid :-)

In that case you are a plastic franchise cunty cunt.

I've wanting to be immature all day. feels much better.

soapy tit wank - as long you feel better now

Have you got your own football club yet?

serious question, how can you justify supporting a franchise?

I have followed Wimbledon since 2003 - I admit I didn't particularly follow them before as Celtic was my main team. I moved down from Scotland some years ago and going back is expensive now - especially with a mortgage etc etc.

Anyway - I went to MK with my best mate, who has followed Wimbledon since 1974 and to him he still does.

So I have been going with him since 2003 (football that is) - I feel I am justified as it's local to me and I go to the football with my mate - same as you all do I guess

WHAts supporting wimbledon got to do with any of that?

i'm going to buy a hundred beers at £3, i love da franchize

what will you do with them?

Wimbledon played in MK in 2003 -

My point was I have been going with my mate - a long standing Wimbledon supporter of over 30 years - however my 1st game was 2003 and I have been hooked since

so does your mate still support wimbledon or does he support Franchise?

As I have already said - in his eyes he is still supporting Wimbledon. I know many opinions differ

Including that of the club - who admitted they weren't wimbledon and gave back all history if i'm not mistaken.

i will drink them.

it'll be like an ironic suicide

what about with the other 97?

 Which is a bit of a help as far as I'm concerned.....Wimbledon have made a decent start in the BS South....hopefully they'll be playing the scum next season.

You are correct - they did give the history back. But to the council - who if they had been half bothered in the 1st instance would there would never have been the situation that is.

Right then - I am off home now. Know doubt I will be back on before the game.

As I said before - only looking for banter. I am not looking for trouble.

Good luck

you'll get no trouble from me, only verbal abuse and a perplexed look.

I don't recall the council having a good side.

Me and Sussex met CSP and had a beer with him






He's OK for a franchise supporting cunt

 ;) :D

Cheers Fred :-)

I can live with that - will be just like being at home with the missus!

Hi Phil, how's things these days?

Regret I will not be coming to watch the game at the new concrete bowl you have as I have other commitments.

Hi mate - yeah not to shabby thanks mate. Your not coming because you owe me a beer admit it!

No doubt speak to you before and after bud.

All the best

I reckon that pint you bought him was the one that sent him over the edge.

Your probably right - he knows I bought it with my own money and didn't nick someone else's pint from the other end of the pub and move it to somewhere else :-)

I bought my mk ticket earlier :(

I haven't yet - but the people Im supposed to be driving have :D

anyone know if you can pay on the day? i want to go so i can abuse sean o'hancunt.

Fraternising with the Franchise amounts to treason and is punishable by death.

Hangin's too good for 'em

what about supporting your own team and giving the franchise unutterable shit for being plastic? can i do that?

No you sell out.

I'm still boycotting franchise. Nothing to do with be being to skint or lazy to go everytime we've played them.

What can I say, I like wasting £12 + chip in for petrol money + beers and food. Sigh.

I was referring to the palliness and bonhomie being afforded to the Franny earlier in the thread.  I was expecting next to see a white flag being raised and then an impromtu football match in no man's land.  After which cowshedpete would produce a series of faded black & white photos of his wife and kids.

Don't worry, Ill get my ticket Monday *makes pained expression*

it's kind of sad when when fans of the own team have pops at each other because they're going to an away game.

oh well

I don't think they were SY.

Just wondering why franchise scum were given the time of day on here.

If you're referring to my post, I wasn't having a pop at you going. The somewhat tongue-in-cheek point I was making was if you're going to go because you want to support the team fair play, but that does involve putting money in the franchise till and thereby supporting (financially) what they're doing. And that's a dilemma everyone faces for away games at Franchise - some decide that the desire to support their own team overrides the desire to tilt at the franchise windmill, others decide that no matter how much they want to support the team, they can't face putting money in those bastards' tills. Both points of view are valid and everyone has to arrive at their own decision on that, each to their own and all that.

But don't try and dress it up that you're going to make some kind of anti-franchise protest when you're in there, because Winkleman and the plastics don't give a shit. By that stage they've got your money and any barracking you do will just from their point of view add to the "atmosphere" and their tenuous claim to have a proper football club.

i was being facetious responding to ardilles' post.

i'm going because i want to go and personally i think it's far too late to make any sort of protest against Franchise' existence so it's just going to be another away game to me.

I have to say although I dislike the franchise immensly, if they sell Chicken and Balti pies then I don't think I can resist putting an extra few quid in their till

I'm not going. Think we'll lose there anyway.

Ill be there to see us turn it around :)

If fans turned up to support their team at the McBowl, which caused the players to play better and beat MK, which in turn meant they got relegated, I wouldn't care how much money they'd gained out of it.

Unfortunately you can't dress up the fact that if you go you are giving them money. It's a bit like when people say they hate the fact that money has ruined football, yet they still pay for Sky tv.

I'm not going as I have a bbq to go to.

I have a sticky marinade pork fillet offering planned.

I will let you know how I get on.

That's right.  I thought that was clear.

Sonic - sorry you got the wrong end of the stick, but think you're being a little oversensitive.  For the record, I have personally chosen not to put any money in Franchise coffers no matter what - but understand that others will want to (often with a grimace) in order to support the team.  The post you took issue with wasn't about that though; it was referring to the love in with cowshedpete, franchising apologist from the concrete 'city'.

xx

i might go, can you pay on the day?

anyone wanna give me a lift for some snaps on the petrol?

You can indeed

I'm paying my money so yes the franchise will get £17.00 however i wont be buying any food, programmes etc like I normally would do, Not that it makes it any better as its only a fiver say more but its a fiver they wont get?

Got to say I agree 100 per cent with Ardiles.

McDons are pariahs. They are scum and I would never afford any of their fans the respect of talking to them.

fucking hell bit over the top isnt it? not buying food etc!

If you go, then they can't irk you that much therefore you might aswell buy food and programme.

 :D

i will pay for a ticket, buy a cheeseburger and a coke, which i do at every ground i go to, dont care if its Franchise or man utd

Im going to get pissed

i save that till after the game

mug

or u have the scenario like u fredrik, when u wasnt let in

i'm going to fellate winkleman and pay him £1,000 for the privilege.

Careful

Only my Mum calls me Frederick when she is angry with me

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URU?

I'm going to MK - the last heard was that I'll be driving a carload of 5 people over which should be a good laugh. I just have to hope Johno remembered to buy me a ticket...

you forgot PVC.

Im not going.

Its not a political stance,I just cant be arsed.

Go me!

I'm going, my team are playing and i want to support them.

loser

waster.

I feel itchy  :(

get some Canesten Combi.

OMG - people not buying burgers or a programme - what ever will we do??? - But you will pay on the day instead of buying the tickets from your club?? That's quite the funniest thing I have ever heard.

Enjoy the game people

POTD people only use funny money.

This is a serious dilemma. The likes of which everyone has already stated. So shall i go, shall i not? God knows...

Good to see the very much obligatory Wimbledon comments have reared their head. I said this once before, to cowshedphil i think, but it's funny how many McDongs fans have been long term Wimbledon supporters. It's like most ManUre fans. It's as though they have a kind of guilt or defense mechanism, where by when quizzed about who they support or why they support the club, they go through the ubiquitous spiel of their family always supporting them or they've supported them from birth and roll out names such as Dennis Law etc., etc.

In fact it's hilarious, because if there was that many Wimbledon fans, why didn't they go when the club was in London, rather than wait until it moves 70 miles away... Well, i suppose there's always the possibility that there's a load of Mockneys in MK and they supported Wimbledon because it was a massive London club.

Peace and loving. x

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Hello again Mr Scott - you did indeed say that to me. I have absolutely no problem with people's opinions. Like arseholes - everyone has got one. To be fair to you and others that I met face to face - whist your opinions were stressed you were not abusive to me as an individual.

I am not a long term "Wimbledon fan" - have never claimed to be. I am sure there are many "Swindon Fans" that follow you all over the country and have done for 5 + Years because they are supporting "their local club" -

Please do not think I am comparing a club of established history with generation(s) of fans following Swindon with Franchise - I wouldn't.

All I am saying is that MK Community is the same as the community's of every club in the land - supporting a local team that play's a high standard of league football.

I have seen women and children spat at by "Grown brave men" for following the team - Grimsby at Wembley the main culprits - I dont care who the fuck you are - Not On!!!

Anyway - as I said - I have met a few of you face to face and you have been pleasent enough. So I look forward to the game on Sat

I am not going as i will not give them a quid out of my pocket and my wife wont let me

I'm nearly the same as you other than my wife won't let me and oh yes and I won't give them a quid out of my pocket.

I'm going as I like to help out new clubs.

I'll probably buy a couple of burgers, a coke, a programme and a shirt as well............

Trying to earn an M.B.E. for work in the community Hertha?

I've just realised this is the same moral dilemma as giving our previous general manager our money. I got bored of boycotting in the end.

And becuase im a think franchise cunt - I have only just found out how to use this frickin board :doh:

Bit of a paradox that, surely? To be a cunt on here is not a bad thing whereas there are those that say to be a thick franchise "thingy" is entirely infra dig.

You're right. I feel that i can't be fucked to boycott franchise anymore, i'm apathetic about most things, so why not football? I actually hate missing games and with friends nagging me to go, it can't hurt.

To be honest, it's the same thing as with MD, going to the game doesn't make a massive amount of difference to their finances, they're far from making profit at our level. I'd have thought. Maybe. I actually don't know. But expect they're carrying debt, or at least Ronald is.

I'm not going.Wallingford Bunkfest is on  :)

As much as i hate Mac dons and all they stand for i can't really take any stance against them as i've been there before.They are scum though.

I'd rather see them fail than any other club in the world.  I'm still going.

I haven't got a rationale for that.

I don't think it's a particularly rational thing either way. There's those like me and Ardiles who would rather grow a womb than put any money in their tills, but I don't think either of us expect the Frannies to come crashing down as a result of the few still boycotting - it's not a calculated plan, just a "I can't bring myself to do that" thing. Then there's the far greater majority who fucking hate Franchise just as much as we do, but still want to watch their team, which is completely fair enough. It's like most moral dilemmas in life, you can't draw a line and say "this side is right, that side is wrong", you've just got to run with what sits best with you.

FWIW, though, I don't think the comparison with our situation with the old board is particularly valid. For one thing, there was never really a full-on boycott and rightly so because of the extra dimension that those who've cited this comparison have, I think, missed. Which is plainly and simply that this is our club, and always will be, irrespective of who holds what bits of paper at any given time, and I'll be buggered if I'm going to let any bunch of no-marks like that lot stop me from following my team (NB this is not an invitation to actual buggery, notwithstanding any references to "Greek practices"). It's that feeling of continuity through the fans, and a wider sense of "ownership" than the inevitably transient legal sense of the word that so turns the stomach at what happened to Wimbledon and why the McPlastics are rightly referred to as club-stealers. You stole someone else's club you bastards and you will always be pariahs for it.

I guess it's what your perspective on what a personal boycott achieves. It'll never change the financial fortunes of that rent a club, it purely comes down to whether you feel your morale obligtion to reject franchise football is stronger than your desire to watch your own team play. Which is why I think it is a similar dilemma to that of past seasons at STFC.

It's quite clear for instance, that they will not go out of business now, unless they drop out of the league. If the fans can make a difference on the day it may even help to get them out of the league.

But this is not my perspective, I simply fancy watching a game of football which we will hopefully win. I'm not going along to show that the franchise model has worked, I'm merely going to show that history and tradition is better.

I reckon we should all turn up in orange gear and sing anti-franchise songs behind the main stand after though 8)

That seem's a well enough argument on why you feel the way you do - and no one should knock you for that.

I just want things to be clear that the Franchise Fans did NOT move the club - I know that is not what you have said - but for fans of any club to be victimised because of something completely outside of there control is unjust.

I am sure there will many of the same responses - "well don't fucking support them then" or "serve's you fucking right"

x amount of the MK community have made there decision over the years to follow Franchise - it only needs a few mates going to a game, more mates to join them then before you know it you have a good solid fan base - that club becomes their club

If people were to tell you not to follow your club - you would tell them to fuck off - Franchise Fans are no different

I would like one question answered Mr Cow Shed: I read in the Mk News that thee was trouble at the Northampton game. I assume MK fans feel that the northampton game is a derby game hence the trouble. How the hell can a club with out much history have any rivals? When how do rivials start? Do you just pick a club near you and think there do they will be a our local rivials? Or in ture Mk fashion do you just buy a clu with history and take there rivials?

"x amount of the German community in the 30's made there decision over the years to give the nazi's their support - it only needs a few mates agreeing, then some family members, more mates to join them then before you know it you have a good solid base of support- before you know it you've signed up and are busy invading Poland"

You lot will always be football Nazis to me, stealing a club and invading another town.  Shame on you!!  I'm really disappointed in myself for even replying to a Franchisee, low of the low, I'd rather have a beer with a Pox fan, least he'd be a genuine, if not completely humiliated (by now), football fan.

Perhaps it's because it's local? I'm not that bothered about them anymore. Lets face it AFC had piss poor support, the worst ground i've ever been to, and even now dont play in the borough. The world has changed and footballers and even teams, now go where the finance is.

Oh don't try that bullshit - "it was stolen when we got here, mate, honest". You made an active and conscious decision to participate in the Franchise theft knowing full well what it was - no football fan could have done what you did. Without you and people like you the Franchise experiment would have died as it should have done at the outset. Because of plastics like you, any other chancer in the future who fancies doing the same thing to another club (like ours for example) will look at what you scrotes have done and say to himself "Yep, there'll always be enough muppets willing to ignore the fact we stole someone else's heritage and history so I'll get away with that". Your continued existence as a club threatens every other club with a genuine history and a genuine community. You are a pariah on the face of football and always will be and that applies to each and every one of you that follows them.

Don't victimise them Paul, they're the innocents in all of this. 

As I said - We as fans stole fuck all - and as you know the history was given back to Merton Council - not Wimbledon - not AFC Wimbledon.

Fuck me if the council had have been interested in anything other that Strawberry's & cream with Pimms - the move would not have happened in the 1st place.

I find your opinion valued - I find your anger irritating and missplaced.

I find your opinion on all football matters null and void. I'd rather talk football to an Oxford fan than the likes of you.

Paul is really going for it! Ace...!

I remember our first game v Milton Keynes at the Hockey Stadium, some kids were running their mouths about how shite Swindon are, I turned around - one had a ManUre shirt on, on had a Chelsea shirt on and the other a Liverpool shirt.
Just about right really they have very few real supporters

But when I was at your ground last - I saw 2 arsenal shirts?? Unfortunately you do get it and I am pleased to say no where near as much as before.

It's a 30,000 seater alright but only 1/2 finished 22,000 tops!

The trouble was actually in the Northampton end. It was nothing really - just a few lads singing and getting boysterous. It's on Youtube - they ended up closing the away end bar as bottles of beer were being launched etc

i read somewhere some mk fans see us as there biggest rivals!

Really?? News to me - I thought it was the posh TBH

I find your continued presence on this board puzzling - this is a forum for Swindon Town fans primarily, but all football fans are generally welcome. You fit in neither category

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HTH

:chuckle: :tomato:

boooo stop being mean. poor phil

Perhaps im a freelance fan - and im looking for my next employer :D

You find our anger irritating and misplaced?!

Irritating: good.  I hope the irritation grows.

Misplaced: with that comment, you display your complete inability to understand the issues arising from the precedent that has been set by your 'club', and your complete ignorance of what it is to be a football fan.

As the receiver of stolen goods, you are wholly implicated in the crime.  You are providing the funds that made the theft worthwhile.  I am disgusted by your continued support of a stolen club - but your naive attempts to absolve yourself of any wrong doing turn that disgust in to mild revulsion.

Now piss off and don't come back.

  I was talking to a mate last night who recently completed the 91, I asked him if he was going Saturday...."no", came back the answer. 

 "But if you went" I said "that would make 92".

  "They don't count" he replied.

How many years have MKD been formed now?

I dont like them as a club, but they here and here to stay, nothing we can do but not attend a fixture at their ground if that is how you feel.

I would prefer to forget about MKD and support my club, we need to move on.

If we all moved on and forgot the world would be a very worrying place. Nevr mind mr Hilter lets just move on and forget. Hay Ho Tony you lied about the WMD but never mind lets move on and forget. See you next week Pete you stole a club and fucked football but nevermind lets move on and forget. Oh and if you hadn't noticed I ws being sarcatiskic.

This is sport for goodness sake, not world politics.

GFM in real post scandal. :)

That's your choice.

I'll never accept them as a proper club. Because they aren't. I would genuinely be pleased to see them go out of existence, something I could not say about any other club in the land.

Dell - while accepting that you just want to watch your team, the important point here is that a precedent has been set.  Next time, it could be us.

So, yes, support the club.  And if you're going on Saturday, sing a song for me.  But NEVER forget what happened in Milton Franchise.  To that extent, we should never move on.

 :eek:

They are the most hated side in the football league by real football supporters, trouble is there are less and less real supporters going to football matches these days.
I suppose you have to make your mind up do I support my team on saturday or protest by not going. I choose to go.
 

I genuinely think it will never happen again tbh - I really dont

fine! never mind Linford your a drug cheat but lets move on and forget. Diego hand of cheat not hand of god but we'll move on and forget, steve your a shit manager but hey I'm going dutch and I'm gonna move on and forget. I think fucking not.

Phil,

Whilst some of the language used on here is a bit melodramatic, Paul D knows quite well that your continued existence in no way "threatens every other club" as the rules against purchasing clubs as franchises to move around the country as you like are now fairly clear. It's a shame the footballing authorities couldn't get it together the lock the stable door before the horse bolted, especially considering the horse had been all over the papers talking about going to Cardiff or Dublin or just about anywhere with a population greater than 3 men and a dog for a year or so, but there you go, shit happens.

So we know that what was done to Wimbledon was legal, we know it wasn't done at your personal decree, we know that as far as you were concerned "it was this way when we got here", and we don't care. We don't care not because we think that without you and people like you there was some magic solution that would have given Wimbledon their club and league position back, because there wasn't and nobody believes there ever will be.

But without you and people like you what would have happened is what should have happened, that smug prat Winkelman would have been left with an empty white elephant of a stadium and would have done his money. What you and your fellow "fans" have done is reward him for doing something that most football fans find despicable.

No-one here is accusing you of murdering Wimbledon FC. You didn't point the gun or pull the trigger. All you did is help to rob the grave, but I'm afraid as long as you're wandering around wearing the deceased clothes there are some people who will always turn their backs on you when you walk in the room.

If you and your mates liked football so much then you could have found a local non-league team to support and actually done something to build them towards being a league club. Christ you could have started your own. AFC now are top of BS South, only two promotions away from the league place that your lot knicked of them. Think how much more rewarding it would have been to get your league club that way? But Milton Keynes wasn't really interested in football until you were handed league football on a plate was it? You didn't really care that much. That's why to some people on here you'll never be a real football fan.

You've got your club, you've got your nice stadium, flash Italian manager and all that goes with it, all in a couple of years and for no effort. The price that you pay for that is that most other football fans have got no time for you. That's the deal so you better get used to it.

They'll not beat you up or brick your windows in or anything, but if the Dongs ever get into financial difficulties I wouldn't expect there to be bucket collections at any other grounds.

I have been taking shite for many a year because I follow MK - christ the shite I get back in Scotland for being a Celtic fan is just as bad.

But your argument and response has been the best I have ever read. And I thank you for taking the time to respond as well.

I know people will never forget - and perhaps they shouldn't. In a strange and terribly ironic way - how we came to exist in the 1st place will protect the same thing happening to the other 91 clubs.

Thanks again for your response - it is much apreciated

I've got to admit that's really not a response I was anticipating. I've never been thanked for pointing out to someone why people are always going to hate them before.

I'm slightly non-plussed..... Er thanks...I think.. :unsure:

Guess it's like telling someone their breath stinks or they have BO - you don't wish to be particularly offensive but at the same time - it needs to be said 8)

Ha ha!!  Good last couple of posts that, well written Lumps.

Lumps' post almost makes me think "karma" on this forum could be a good thing. Applaud the good responses, boo the bad ones, and let others see your loved or hated status!

Nice post Lumpy.

Oh a slight side note to this I have decided not to attend the game on Saturday instead Im going to listen on the radio and do some bakering a la Ben

I have printed some nice cake recipes off the net and Ive decided to make some cupcakes to take into work for my fellow lifeguards on Sunday.

 Are you feeling broody JFW ?

What's with you and you're "slight side note"'s all of a sudden? You don't normally feel the need to apologise for dragging a thread off at a tangent, kicking and screaming? And why should you no fucker else does.

ummm OK Ill consider myself told!  :-[

does Ben feel broody when he bakers then?

Bun-in-the-oven ;)

Depends on how alliterative I'm feeling.

 I think he probably does...

Oh is that what he meant - whoopsee  :-[

No - my womb is barron  :(

I just miss the days I had time to bake - and in these credit crunch days its a low cost alternitive to shopping

I'll not be going, as I don't want to give those fuckers any cash.  I understand entirely why some will go and support Town...sing long and load.

I did go to the game at the Hockey Stadium and wished I hadn't, a clear error of judgement on my part.  I will never go to their ground, ever again.  If I were to reach 91 grounds (I'm on about 65) then I will go and watch Wimbledon and claim the 92.

I posted the following last year and my attitude and feelings remain unchanged.  There is no excuse to be a Milton Keynes fan (and btw, why the fuck do we bother with the Dons bit...it's got fuck all to with Wimbledon or Aberdeen).

My post, should you care...

Milton Keynes are also the only team I've ever wanted Oxford to beat.

How anyone can claim to support them is beyond me...if they were into football they would have had a team before they moved, who did they support then?  So have they abandoned the clubs they previously supported?  They can fuck off.  If not, them they were probably a plastic premier league supporter...so they can fuck off as well.

Cunts.

eeeeeeeeee-aaaaaaaawwwwwww, eeeeeeeeee-aaaaaaaawwwwwwwalys was going to respond like that 8)

I thought you were more partial to plastic cows

The franchise forum must be at a pretty low ebb right now!

Who or what is Broody?

I hope he washes his hands before kneading.

They're used to upping sticks and going elsewhere.

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This has probably already been asked - but can you buy tickets on the day?

i want to pay on the day too

Some Franchise fan over on thisis says you can,


I don't know if this is accurate or not though, Best ring our own box office to confirm?

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Also it looks like the Dongs are losing their captain Keith Andrews to Blackburn (he's having a medical)

 That's got to be a help....he's just the sort who'd have a field day against our kightweights.

Notice Dons best player Keith Andrews is having a medical at Blackburn today. Good news.

 Notice Batch posted this 2 hours ago and two posts back...so old news.

hahahahahhahahahhaha

hes nowhere NEAR good enough for the premiership

A late entrance to the Premiership - almost 28 years old... I don't think he played a game for Wolves when they were up there.

He played for the Pox - I loathe him :D

Does anyone know how much sas are charging fo Franchise away,a friend wants to go and i cant find Sals thread ware she gives the price.

£12, departs 11:15am

Thanks SIE.....can you pay on the day?

http://www.swindontownsupportersclub.com/40.html

It's pre booked only. You best get your mate to book asap (if there are spaces left).

Thanks for you help.

I think you can get a match ticket on the day. I bloody hope so anyway otherwise i'm driving to MK for nothing. I might ring STFC ticket office in't morning

You can Red....i was on about the coach ticket.

ah so you were. Would help if i read the thread i suppose!