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I think the old Den and the New Den are vey intimidating grounds to get in & and out of as their full of high rise flats and little industrial units with lots of hiding places

A few years back Maine Road, Ninian Park.

The Old Den, massively top of any list.

Other nasty ones are/were the M*nor ground, Ninian Park, Priestfield, Somerton Park, but thats it off the top of my head.

Ayresome Park

Old Den agreed...New Den if you go by train there's the special walkway from the station straight into the away end, not really that intimidating as a result.

Maine Road was always something 'special'

Definitely agree about the old Den, we once parked about a mile from the ground and the police said that probably wasn't far enough. The Aldershot park behind the away end has seen some action, Although it was fine last season when we went down there. Walking back to Temple meads was different " Your going in the river " was a favoured chant from the shite heads. Wouldn't be suprised if some visiting fans find getting back to the station at our place intimidating especially with all the Allyways around the Manchester road area.

Yeah ours must be quite intimidating particularly having to walk past the tap and the CGH, and the home end.

That's true and Don't forget how intimidating Behind the Arkells can be  ;)

I find those slightly intimidating, even when I'm in a town shirt!

 :suicide:I find it less intimidating on match days.

I remember seeing Man utd down at Ashton Gate and they ran city all over the place and there wer stories of fans going into the river
Aldershot away is a strange setting having to walk through a park to get to the shared away end which reminds me of a barn

You mention a good point regarding away fans finding swindon intimidating as I had never looked at it like that but thinking about walking down manchester road and all of thise side streets & alley ways then when approaching the stadium you are met with the county ground hotel and the back of the town end with swindon fans everywhere it must make them weary of us

I'm not worried by them, I don't expect to get mugged or anything, it's just the ambience of the area that is slightly intimidating, and would be doubly so if you were an away fan.

Your right, knowing the area getting to and from grounds is a big help even when it's an away ground you have been to before.

Kassam.

They all stand there looking at you and doing some sort of tribal dance raising their middle fingers.

All an hour after the game.

Most bizarre.

Swindon fans waiting on the green by the town end/shrivenham road stands must have been scary for away fans in the 80's as they had to pass to get to their coaches etc

They want you to take them from that hell hole to somewhere where proper football happens. Pity the poor souls.

They welcome to hell banner :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

I've been worried four times. West ham and wolves away. City and the pox at home. Wouldn't have ever been worried coming here if not looking for it as a visitor. Seen our lot on their toes more than the other way.

iirc they used to park the coaches on Shrivy road in the early 80s,would have been more or less where Ocotal way is now.

Seen some right scary mobs here including swindon fans going crazy against pox, both bristols, gillingham, brighton, pompey,southampton, blackburn, cardiff and many more so im guessing all clubs have their idiots its just a case of staying out of their way and keping quiet.

Bristol City away walking from temple meads was always very scary even when I watched Man Utd down there

I think there was cross over in the early 80's as I can remember the coaches parked in shrivy road where town fans used wait in the alley behind the cycle shop then they started to park them behind the town end

Mitchell(spolling} cycles is still there.
Can remember pne supporters took bit of a shoeing down there ,cant remember the year but Bobby Charlton was the both ends manager at the time.

judging by todays trouble at a non league ground Nuneaton as lots of trouble there today and 62 arrested after violence with lincoln fans. Whats that all about

No ob and lack of cctv at a guess.

Nuneaton and Lincoln have had history since the days of Richard the third  ( and probably before that ) extension of the times unfortunately . To be fair  i dont know how anyone didnt expect it .

even so thats some trouble for a non league match I can remember the last time there were that many arrested at swindon even when we played any of our rivals

Lincoln have some of the worst fans around,A real hard core following at England's away games too.

Must have missed town fans running others all over the place since watching the town for 30 years despite knowing so called lads. A van full hartlepool took the piss infront of my very eyes outside the packed cgh.
The odd scrap then yes but not mob running. Seen our lot run plenty of times though.
I'm Town through and through but some seem rose tinted imo

Ive been going for over 30 years and seen lots of swindon mobs getting the better of both bristols, southapton, oxford, brighton, pompey, blackburn, gillingham, reading and more, By a mob I mean a few hundred and all without rose tinted glasses and all in the 1980's. Not all the time but often enough to say that they were a force

Hooligans come in many forms , some of the biggest twats i know, who were nobodies in my local  would come in bragging what they had got up to  to a bunch of blokes they where trying to impress , who didnt give a fuck

I was there in the 80's when were a few hundred doing that?
Not doubting our lot got on top but don't think it was riot running. Only seen it the other way myself

Fair point I think we know some of them. Football is def better off without them but in those days it was hard not to see them whilst getting to and from the grounds. Also in those days it was the done thing for away fans to mingle in wih the home fans and try and take the home end

Many times after the game meeting on the shrivenham road and the magic roundabout

I would struggle to name a good football hooligan to be honest ,but give me the hardest in the local  pubs  in swindon in the  late 80's and 90's and very few were even into football

Edit: but then im younger than some , i have heard some naughty stories . Just dont know any real hooli's ( who aint twats)

in my experience i would have to agree with Arriba on this. think in the past we were more sinned against.have seen villa cardiff, bristol city,pompey, millwall, brighton, qpr, birmingham, and yes... oxford in the town end pre- segregation. never saw the reverse at these grounds. havent been everywhere but can only remember swindon in aldershots end. may be wrong.

when? Hundreds? Never saw that myself

report from Nuneaton  police: " We were expecting anything from 2 to 277 Lincoln fans today and obviously being prepared for trouble ( due to historical differences ) , we cannot legislate fans fighting outside our jurisdiction and that's why we couldnt prevent the manslaughter of Nunny the tortoise ( the mascot ) who was chased until dead  "


Bastards , you couldnt make this shit up , i hope whoever was involved is dealt with appropriately

well it happended on many occassions in the 80's but not aware of swindon fans doing it at away grounds

when? I can remember the games I saw it go off and those when I saw our lot run as I was running too.

You could have become a sprinter with the amount of running you've done Arriba.  ;)

cant anyone think of nonny the tortoise

southampton, blackburn both in the cup, and numerous occassions against both bristol teams, oxford, reading, gillingham, cardiff, pompey, and brighton. Not saying it was all swindon but they had large numbers and more than held their own

are you swindon's danny dyer ?

no

City away was mad on the park behind the ground but that was fight or get battered like most I've seen-got caught up in.  City chased us up broad street and Oxford went off big time on the grass out the back of the shrivvy road-magic roundabout. Never seen us take the piss though

Danny Dyer on his trip to Nuneaton on football rivalries " Forget Spurs v Arse , Barcelona v Real Madrid  or Rangers v Celtic I've never seen any trouble like the shit i saw at Nuneaton v Lincoln , this shit has weal history , check out the Youtube pictures "   Fucking  Mental stuff

city away was that the season they went down as I heard many stories of that game and some real big lads having to take cover. Slightly unfair against city as they have so many but then bristol is a big city
I can rememnber swindon giving blackburn the run around after a cup game in the 8o's and bristol rovers on a tuesday evening and we had oxfors on the run the nigh that there was a big fire down by the railway station

pwopa nawty thread dis

It's about to get naughtier.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBKbl_GGuuE

Thats nothing compared to Nuneaton v Lincoln you cunt

Someone died at that game.

Didnt you hear about Nonny , you cunt ?

edit: didnt mean cunt , just meant slow reader. sorry

Having just looked at the highlights , im concluding food poisoning

Actually it was in the corresponding fixture, almost.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Football_riots_%C5%A0iroki_Brijeg-Sarajevo

Quote from: Topcat on Friday, March 15, 2013, 21:29:55

Anybody remember playing Blackburn in the FA Cup in 1984 when we got beat 2-1 with Jimmy Quinn scoring for the visitors as it got really lively after the game!!

Yep, remember it well. Rovers were on the receiving end of some pretty heavy Swindon hospitality. They came looking for it and got more than they bargained for.

Nice to know others knew about it

Bournemouth at home 1987  Was tasty fighting all over the place
Oxford at home 1995 Pox ambushed by the bike shop Mitchell's
Scary place Wolverhampton League Cup had to go through an underpass difficult had to stand your ground or take a kicking

Bournemouth at home was a great game nice and sunny day and town had a real mob at the bank and remember the police escorting a couple of hundred lads back to the town end but that seemed to make litle difference as there were hundreds still massed against the bournemouth fans. Never a 14,300 crowd though more like 20,000+ must have been fiddling the books

This thread is fucking embarrassing.

 :D

Indeed.

It's like a bad standard Danny Dyer film

no such thing as a bad Danny Dyer film

It's been a reminder of the Good (?) old days when going to an away game was a real adventure & coming home in one piece was an achievement in itself.

Trouble at football does did and will continue to happen. What's wrong with discussing it?

Anybody who went to alot of away games in the 80's will know that the thread is not a embarrassing as they would be able to relate to having to keep a low profile to get away from the ground safely. Sometimes you would be bricking it

Agree

Thanks,
I can remember going to Nothampton in 86 when we won 1-0 and bricking myself as lots of Northampton fans came out of an alley way and attacked a Z Hire van full of town fans.Luckily they were able to drive off as they were trying to force the back doors open
Scary or what

Yeah, I know that. I just think that the bad old days (and for anyone who went to football to watch the football, that's what they were) have been talked to death.

I remember being 10 years old in 1993 and going to the manor ground and taking them all on.

ROOOOOOAAAARRRRR

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XM72WsoqVgk

I once bashed someone in the head then vommed over them at a CG game in 91.

Was 1.

Hardman for lyf.

some of us obviously find a bit of talk about the old days interesting.the common room banter on here can also be tiresome to others

What is common room banter?

I totally agree having been to many games in that period it obviously is interesting to us older fans and how scary it was at times to follow your team away from home knowing that the home fans were waiting to kick your head in after the game.

I think this forum could do with some more common, room banter.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7S9Ew3TIeVQ

I'm 48.

And?

was at this one, town fan got stabbed before the game, after the game it went mental cars being rolled, fighting all over, the police did'nt have a clue

And I don't know what common room banter means either.

I do find the reminiscing interesting, just find it funny to take the piss a little (even if pre-emptively) in case anyone tries to get all 'hard man'.

Bogus Dave, my favourite thing about that scene (other than the rest of it of course) is he doesn't put the handbrake on at the start. Genius.

And what the hell is common room banter.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banter
This i thinks

Yeah I remember and that was the mob we accidently came across before the game, also remember that two swindon double deckers had to be escorted back to oxford and that there was alot of history between the clubs with swindon smashing their pub up a season or two earlier

It was fucking cold that day Charlie Henry winner

yeah is was really cold stuck on that stratton bank type end looking at the poxy cricket ground. I reckon we had around 1500 there that day

looking forward to Blades away have not been there since our first season in the premier ship and before anyone corrects me we will be back there within a few years

Going back to the 70s we ambushed Cardiff down by the bus station, used to be a couple of giant advertising hoardings down there and about 100 of us ran them all the way to the train station. Millmoor was a horrible ground to go and get away from all the little alley ways and that was the days when the home fans were allowed into the away end, first time there i saw all these lads with red and white scarfs on and thought to myself what a great turn out, eh eh ....wrong all riotherham fans  with just a small bunch of town fans in the far corner with a couple of coppers between us, how i escaped without a kicking that day, as i know of at least 1 town fan spent a few days in hospital there. :D

Anything that isn't glorifying football hooliganism, apparently.

Donkey jackets, combat trousers, doc martin boots, scarfes around the wrist, home made banners made from sheets to wrap around shoulders, ring any bells?
Then came the skinhead era ,scary!!!

Is there a TEF sub-species that only appears on this thread?

how do football hooligans 'take the piss'?

Genuine question

In an old beer can? :D

That must be it! Maybe a Hofmeister can!

So who was doing the arresting then ?

The "Lincoln Transit Elite" I believe

It was very scary back then in the 70's and 80's. I recall all of these games, Northampton, Pompey, Millwall etc.
Saying that Swindon was not a scary place to visit I would disagree. I know for a fact that Millwall and Pompey two of the worst clubs for nutcases following their clubs loved coming to Swindon as they would always be guaranteed some action.
I also recall when a Plymouth fans was killed at Swindon.

So glad I can take both my young lads without the hassle that went on those decades before. I even took my 9 year old to the Pox JPT game without any problem.

How ironic that the only time I was ever actually hit at a football game were by Swindon skinheads along the Manchester Road after an Oxford game as I made my way back to the station.....bastards.

This one is for all the hardnuts in this thread.

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lads. at no time have i glorified football hooliganism.some on here appear quite precious about things that used to happen.by the way common room banter is schoolboy humour , its not difficult.

Think you might have that a bit arse about face mate.
Proper "skinhead era"  was from 68 til 71 ish.

My first encounter with skinheads, was Jan 67 at the Boleyn Ground...bit of an eye opener for us Swindon boys.

I was talking to an old Swindon bus station Skin only today.

Glad i am not the only one that still calls that stadium by its proper name.
First went there in 74 or was it 75? :headhurts: Eastoe got the equaliser,replay was lively.
Tadge scary to say the least,it was bovver boys by then.

Went to the replay...believe it was on bonfire night and we lost 2-1 in front of around 25,000 :hmmm:

Bastard Town Fans, me too.

In my case leaving the Fulham (Best, Moore and Marsh etc) v Town FA Cup third round 3-3 at Craven Cottage

Someone from behind nicked my Fulham-ish navy and white bobble hat, I turned round demanding it back and took a few hits and kicks with my mate

We left it at that (wisely in my case) teacup, paperbag and all that

I was at that game too. It's one of only 2 games I've ever really been scared at a football match - the other one was a home game against Millwall, in the early 80s. Not that anything much happened against Millwall as I recall - I was just a young boy and scared because of their reputation.

Didn't go to the away game, but was at the replay at the CG, wasn't it 5-1! Your story of the bobble hat was pretty much the same as what happened to me at Higbury ( the Billy Tucker equaliser game ) except I was with my brother in law ( a huge bloke ) so when he growled at them they gave it back very quickly. Think there was quite a lot of trouble that night in and around our end. Highbury was a strange ground, terraced houses with gaps here and there where the turn styles were.