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« Reply #795 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:01:53 » |
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I didn't ask about pressure. Because to a degree it's irrelevant. I would imagine the depressed shelf stacker feels under as much pressure as a depressed football manager. One doesn't get national and local media coverage weekly though.
True but he's done the job before so he'll know what to expect, I imagine he's thought long and hard about if he's ready to come back and consulted professionals.
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« Reply #796 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:03:30 » |
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Can't see DMR's retarded thinking on the effects of work-related stress helping his campaign to snuggle up to Ells...
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Tout ce que je sais de plus sūr ą propos de la moralité et des obligations des hommes, c'est au football que je le dois. - Albert Camus
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« Reply #797 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:05:47 » |
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I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.
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« Reply #798 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:06:57 » |
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I didn't ask about pressure. Because to a degree it's irrelevant. I would imagine the depressed shelf stacker feels under as much pressure as a depressed football manager. One doesn't get national and local media coverage weekly though.
We know from past TEF history, that there are a surprising number of TEFers, who either have had or currently have what might be termed mental health issues, associated with depression etc. It's for the best that such issues are brought out into the open discussed and hopefully destigmatised.
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« Reply #799 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:13:14 » |
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I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.
Well I know you like to look down on everyone here from your intellectual peak Davey boy, but it wasn't me playing fast and loose with the terminology. Manic depression and a depressive episode brought on by stress at work are very different things. Ells could teach you more than me but a) you're probably not listening and b) she probably doesn't want to risk talking to you. And "kid"'s funny from a rookie sales manager who clearly doesn't have much of a feel for managing people.
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« Reply #800 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:16:20 » |
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I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.
Genuine question. If Martin Ling had been diagnosed with cancer instead, would you still think you knew better than his specialist whether he was ready to return to work?
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« Reply #801 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:20:48 » |
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"Knew better than his specialist"
Don't be ridiculous. I think it will probably be a disaster and have said as much. Forgive me for having such a bleak view. The straight answer to your question is that yes, I think it's probably a bad idea for all concerned.
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« Reply #802 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:26:09 » |
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The real question is... What do you care Dave?
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« Reply #803 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:26:20 » |
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Well I know you like to look down on everyone here from your intellectual peak Davey boy, but it wasn't me playing fast and loose with the terminology. Manic depression and a depressive episode brought on by stress at work are very different things. Ells could teach you more than me but a) you're probably not listening and b) she probably doesn't want to risk talking to you.
And "kid"'s funny from a rookie sales manager who clearly doesn't have much of a feel for managing people.
"Manic Depression" is no longer a thing. What people probably mean by manic depression is Bi-polar disorder, and as far as I'm aware Ling was never diagnosed with that. Depression and Bi-polar disorder are completely different. I believe he had a nervous breakdown and a serious bout of depression, which if you really want to go into diagnostics is described as "uni-polar" depression, but is no less debilitating. Depression is an illness and, when managed properly, shouldn't be different to a diagnosis of a broken leg or a joint problem. It may flare up now and then but it shouldn't affect his ability to do his job. If he is in a position where he feels able to take on the job then he bloody well should. People with mental health difficulties aren't some sort of protected species; with the right support there's no reason why he shouldn't prosper.
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« Reply #804 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:27:54 » |
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I'd say it's 'ridiculous' to think that he hasn't sought medical advice before deciding to take this step. I also think it's 'ridiuclous' that you are writing him off based on something you've half heard about.
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« Reply #805 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:28:41 » |
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As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?
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« Reply #806 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:30:35 » |
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As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?
Tell David Busst that [edit], kid [/edit]. And no sorry, I'm taken.
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« Reply #807 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:36:30 » |
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As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?
I'm a trainee psychologist with a joint problem*, I don't need Wikipedia. I break bones all the time. I do know the score. Mind you, have you checked your cuniforms lately? Apparently your third one is gay. *not weed
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« Reply #808 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:02:15 » |
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Sam seems to think a new chief scout is on his way in too. Power taking more of a back seat maybe?
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« Reply #809 on: Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:05:39 » |
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Sam seems to think a new chief scout is on his way in too. Power taking more of a back seat maybe?
Power said the next couple of seasons were all about building up the clubs infrastructure which will include personnel as well as bricks and mortar. So would imagine it's all part of that.
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