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Title: Next manager
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:36:14
Steve Lomas or Nile Ranger


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:37:14
Sheena Easton and PDC.

Right that's the three names already mentioned, let us move on!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:40:51
I'll be the first. I'd have Paolo back in a heartbeat - financial oblivion or not....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pewshamrobin on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:41:14
kevin nolan player manager


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:44:11
Culveehouse or Ian Crook.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:46:32
Culverhouse might be a go er. A coach rather than a manager; Norwich/Power link (were they there together?) and he has applied before, apparently. Does he come with Calderwood in tow?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:55:19
I'll be the first. I'd have Paolo back in a heartbeat - financial oblivion or not....

That, sadly, would also be the length of his tenure.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 20:58:06
No Tisdales yet? He gets a mention any time there's even a sniff of a vacancy, no matter how completely absurd.

I don't know who I want really, but I'm beginning to get so bored and disillusioned I sort of hope it's someone typically off the wall and STFC-esque.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:00:26
Oh come on, its going to be Luke Williams if he wants it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:02:44
No Tisdales yet? He gets a mention any time there's even a sniff of a vacancy, no matter how completely absurd.

I don't know who I want really, but I'm beginning to get so bored and disillusioned I sort of hope it's someone typically off the wall and STFC-esque.

Luc Nijholt, at the 9th time of asking!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:03:44
No Tisdales yet? He gets a mention any time there's even a sniff of a vacancy, no matter how completely absurd.

I don't know who I want really, but I'm beginning to get so bored and disillusioned I sort of hope it's someone typically off the wall and STFC-esque.



The conditions of having to work for Power, will limit the choices. Whoever gets it, will still have to work with a squad which is probably going to struggle to stay in this league.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:04:13
Just somebody to breathe new life into the club, please!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:04:57
The conditions of having to work for Power, will limit the choices. Whoever gets it, will still have to work with a squad which is probably going to struggle to stay in this league.

So that doesn't really stop the Tisdale link.

His relentless commitment to Exeter City however...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:05:09
Luc Nijholt, at the 9th time of asking!

This would be my vote.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:06:34
Oh come on, its going to be Luke Williams if he wants it.

I get the impression (and this is purely my gut instinct) that Williams doesn't fancy being a manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:08:28
If Williams wanted it he'd be in temporary charge surely?

Tisdale would last about as long as Paolo under Power. Not in terms of chucking money about obviously but just in the terms of the power (cough) he'd have compared to what he has at Exeter.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:09:12
I get the impression (and this is purely my gut instinct) that Williams doesn't fancy being a manager.

Think you may be right. ASD says he's still at the club as far as he knows, if he were interested I think he'd be caretaker.

edit: beaten by Ells.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:14:18

edit: beaten by Ells.

Now now. I'm not that cruel. We've all been through enough..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:15:51
Now now. I'm not that cruel. We've all been through enough..

:)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:18:23
Sky Bet odds.

(http://i48.photobucket.com/albums/f208/RWDP1983/bit_zpsr0cwlx20.png)

It's so uninspiring it makes the notion an unknown seem quite exciting.

Realistically? Erm. Lee Clark?

 :headhurts:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:19:22
What, no Steve lomas?!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:19:23
Oh  dear god, Paul Dickov, please noooooooooo


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Stevens on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:20:29
Neil Adams ex Norwich manager works well with the youngsters.
He would fit it well here and has great connections from the England youth set up


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:20:39
What, no Steve lomas?!

Soon... Soon.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:23:08
Get Glenn back, he isn't doing much at the moment apart from talking a good game on TV. Then he could walk out on us again if he kept us up!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:24:01
Whoever gets the nod will come from Power's close circle of football friends - won't be an outsider as few would want to work for us under the conditions Power imposes.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:25:48
McDermott is an interesting one. I think I'd be quite happy with that (though I can see a lot of people being decisively unhappy.)

Wilder has to be a pisstake and wasn't Hockaday given the job at Kidderminster like, last week?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:26:17
Whoever gets the nod will come from Power's close circle of football friends - won't be an outsider as few would want to work for us under the conditions Power imposes.

Do we have a list of Lee Power's close circle of football friends?

Michael Standing - Agent
Tim Sherwood - Currently a Premier League manager.
Gareth Barry - Currently a Premier League player.
Lee Power - Isn't allowed to spend over 90 days in the UK.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:28:12
What a strange list of candidates.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:28:32
Any one of these:



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:29:22
@siferry8: If i pass my b license il take the shwindon job with curly as my assistant


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: hobnob on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:30:05
Miss Piggy for me then!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:34:50
Kermit's busy being loved up with a new girlfriend, Miss Piggy is female, Animal would never pass a drugs test and Stadtler and Woldorff (sp?) are busy sitting in the Arkells whinging every fucking week.

I wonder if the Swedish chef could wrangle some sort of tax break over there instead  :sherlock:



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 21:36:22
I wonder if the Swedish chef could wrangle some sort of tax break over there instead  :sherlock:

SY's disliking of Swedes means that he'd be insufferable on TEF if Town brought the Chef in.

It's not worth our hassle.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:03:22
Glen hoddle for me please, just what the club needs atm  :I'm a complete mofleakin Deak


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:05:44
SY's disliking of Swedes means that he'd be insufferable on TEF if Town brought the Chef in.

It's not worth our hassle.

It would be interminable if someone took an instant dislike to a manager and constantly went on about it wouldn't it, might even start calling him chuckles ;)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:20:29
Maybe a bit harsh considering the injury crisis, but not at all surprising.

Which rabbit is Mr. Power going to pull out of his sleeve next?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:27:24
Maybe a bit harsh considering the injury crisis, but not at all surprising.

Which rabbit is Mr. Power going to pull out of his sleeve next?

This one:



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Oxfordhater on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:40:16
Would love Glenn Hoddle. Never going to happen.

Would love Di Canio back. Never going to happen.

I think we should go for Chuckle Buckle.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 22:44:22
Managers are so last century. I don't think we'll bother.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pete on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:02:42
Very early odds

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/swindon/next-permanent-manager


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:10:45
Sherwood at 66/1 may be worth a punt.

Realistically I think McDermott is the best out of those lot


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Combe Down on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:23:07
Lee Peacock


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:42:44
guest manager every Saturday


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:43:30
Alexander armstrong followed by Angus Deaton.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Super Hans on Saturday, October 17, 2015, 23:50:53
If left to his own devices - Billy Davies from that lot.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: paddieu on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 00:37:50
Very early odds

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/swindon/next-permanent-manager



wow - from seeing that list, there's a lot of managers out of work arent there ?!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 03:47:43
Of course, a chairman as manager isn't quite the novelty it appears.

Didn't Ron Noades do similar at Brentford? And not without success, too, as they won the old Div 3 title.

Not that I'm advocating a permanent Power,  but it's hard to see how, and if, another 'puppet' manager can affect things if he still has to adhere to Power's vision.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 06:52:21
Maybe its time for Power to realise he needs to back off the playing side of things for a while. A new manager will want some influence on the dressing room and we that to happen imo.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 07:46:53


Not that I'm advocating a permanent Power,  but it's hard to see how, and if, another 'puppet' manager can affect things if he still has to adhere to Power's vision.



Unless you appoint a manager (essentially Head Coach) who wants the team to play in the same way as Power i.e someone like Sean O'Driscoll. You wouldn't need to tell/force him to play that way, he will want to do it by choice.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 07:54:15
Unless you appoint a manager (essentially Head Coach) who wants the team to play in the same way as Power i.e someone like Sean O'Driscoll. You wouldn't need to tell/force him to play that way, he will want to do it by choice.

Good post. Great opportunity to bring someone in who actually fits in the structure and the style.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 09:33:33
SY's disliking of Swedes means that he'd be insufferable on TEF if Town brought the Chef in.

It's not worth our hassle.
I like the Swedes. Danes on the other hand...

Not sure why Fjørtoft always comes up, he's never managed in the 13 years since he retired aside from DoF at Lillestrøm (which was quite successful).

Henning Berg's looking for a new job and so is Tor Ole Skullerud (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Ole_Skullerud) who was a huge success at Molde and has plenty of experience with young footballers as Norway U21 manager. I'm starting a campaign to bring Skullerud to Town.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 09:42:21
Pretty new to management but Ainsworth has done well at Wycombe. Could be worth a punt?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 10:05:54
While it's blatantly obvious that Power has more involvement in the team than your average chairman, I don't necessarily buy into the notion that so many managers will be turned off by it. Such things are generally bandied about by people that have not spent a day working under Power or any other football chairman.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 10:10:07
Can anyone realistically see Power "paying off" anyones contract at another club to bring them here? I can't.

Lets assume the above is correct, it does narrow down the options. What's more the "bookies" will name everyone they can think of to encourage punters to gamble "responibily" ha ha.

Other points to consider and these have been mentioned in all fairness by others is the "model" that Power controls. Who of the the non contracted available managers/coaches will want to or can adhere to the SN1 model comfortably and with a long tern view ie. Not piss off at the first sign of a bigger or better opportunity? We are and should look to some sort of continuity of tenure.

I cannot help thinking that the unsettling non starter of a move to the Owls may have added to the mix of issues faced here this season. An undercurrent of dissatifaction if you will.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: REDBUCK on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 10:11:34
I think you are over stating the attractiveness of the Swindon job. I cant see us attracting anyone currently in a good a job as Ainsworth


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 11:45:58
Fjortoft.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chubbs on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 11:47:44
Fjortoft.
I believe his words on twitter were "save your money"


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:13:59
I want Holloway, mostly because he's a bit of a loon.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:36:45
Tisdale for me, I think he would be happy to work under Power too.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: newmarket red on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:56:43
Tisdale would  ok also fancy kevin Nolan player manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 12:56:53
I want Holloway, mostly because he's a bit of a loon.

I've always thought he would have a spell with us at some point.  Not sure why.  Would be fun.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:02:38
He's applied for the job before, Fitton gave it to Malpas instead.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:11:58
Paul Lambert has been out of work for a while. Can probably get a much better offer than us but he's not even being linked with many jobs.

Villa went a bit sour in the end but he did wonders at Norwich and did well at Colchester and Wycombe.
Ian Culverhouse has been his number two for a number of years too.

If not Lambert then why not give Culverhouse a shot?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:22:51
Culverhouse would be an interesting choice.  No mention of Luc Nijholt ...?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:25:34
Lambert would be great, but very unlikely


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Hoboken on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:41:32
I've just watched the Villa game on MOTD - wow, their defence...a carbon copy of ours...worth watching, especially the breakdown by Alan Shearer...one of the things he highlighted was Guzan's insistence on throwing the ball out to a defender, even when the  defender is covered...Shearer said when you're struggling at the bottom, just boot the ball away from your goal...Sherwood would slot right in here...


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 13:46:21
Holloway would be great fun. Always been my favourite manager to listen to, and would suit the fact he doesn't like being far from home. Whether he'd fit the style we want I do not know. Would be hilarious mind.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RJack on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:23:22
God please no, don't want that lardy arse fuck anywhere near our club

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/13877240.Evans_is_bookies_favourite_for_Town_job/


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:30:20
Paul Lambert has been out of work for a while. Can probably get a much better offer than us but he's not even being linked with many jobs.

Villa went a bit sour in the end but he did wonders at Norwich and did well at Colchester and Wycombe.
Ian Culverhouse has been his number two for a number of years too.

If not Lambert then why not give Culverhouse a shot?

If we do appoint a new boss, assuming Power won't do it for the rest of the season, it will be someone desperate for a job....Dave Hockaday would have been a good shout.

Looking from the outside, you'll be taking on a squad, which looks too weak for the league, and little say in the necessary recruitment to bring it up to scratch....so a likely relegation on the CV. There are of course plenty around with the necessary failures who'd be happy for a job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:30:57
Bookies favourites mean nothing other than people are betting on him, I can't see him working well with Power. If he does get the job though then I'm not going anymore.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Gnasher on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:32:49
God please no, don't want that lardy arse fuck anywhere near our club

http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/13877240.Evans_is_bookies_favourite_for_Town_job/

A fat and repulsive manager and chairman. Quite a pairing.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:35:56
The club can't censor the bookies. The Adver, FLIC and whatever is left of Total will be filling their boots.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:39:17
He's applied for the job before, Fitton gave it to Malpas instead.

He (Holloway) turned up in the Town End for a game when he was in the running, rather than take an invited seat in the Directors Box (presumably so the fans would sing his name) and dicked around through the interview, didn't impress Fitton or Watkins at the time.

I wouldn't mind him, but suspect like Fatty Evans, he may be too strong a personality to work well with Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:43:50
Ignoring his personality and weight, his cv as a football manager is impressive. I wouldn't personally want him here and there is no way he would work under three Lee Power model.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:49:34
This is really really unlikely but if I could chose anyone it would be Jamie Carragher or Gary Neville...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: adje on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 14:59:12
If its holloway im out.fucking idiot cunt


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:26:02
I don't anticipate anyone of note.

I sure do like the rumour mill though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:27:04
If we do appoint a new boss, assuming Power won't do it for the rest of the season, it will be someone desperate for a job....Dave Hockaday would have been a good shout.

Looking from the outside, you'll be taking on a squad, which looks too weak for the league, and little say in the necessary recruitment to bring it up to scratch....so a likely relegation on the CV. There are of course plenty around with the necessary failures who'd be happy for a job.

If we do appoint one of names from the usual merry go round of failures I'm not sure they would care about the conditions or a relegation.

In fact, someone like Paul Dickov or Lee Clark would probably just like the wage and possibility of a nice pay out come the end of May.

All the more reason to give someone their first shot, if nothing else they have to make it work for their future career. I remember a few years ago George Burley was a favourite of many on here to take over - why? Because he'd won manager of the year for Ipswich 10 years previous.....been fucking terrible for every club he went to after...but 2001!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:28:35
If its holloway im out.fucking idiot cunt

Couldn't agree more.

I know some people absolutely love his zany country bumpkin act, but I think I dislike him more than Cotterill. Granted he doesn't have quite the same obvious cerebral shortfall, but at least Cotterill thinks he's a manager not a remedial red coat.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:29:23
Its going to end up being Gary Waddock


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bogus Dave on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:46:16
It'll be someone we haven't heard of, there first big role, job title 'head coach'

People throwing names around like Holloway, Evans, tisdale, hoddle etc are fucking deluded


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:48:49
People throwing names around like Holloway, Evans, tisdale, hoddle etc are fucking deluded

Yes, they are.

However, don't let the realities get in the way of a good time.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 15:50:34
How far off the sack is Chris Ramsey? Isn't he part of the Power inner circle?


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 16:05:47
The club can't censor the bookies. The Adver, FLIC and whatever is left of Total will be filling their boots.
Not sure the club have censored anyone... Just stopped drip feeding information to the media. The fact that the local media have failed to respond to this by searching out stories says more about them rather than the club.

It's clear from that list that the bookies have no idea. . it's just a list of unemployed managers?


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 16:07:11
BTW it's going to be a dull appointment, whoever it is, if they can get the team at least looking like they give a shit that would be a major step forward.


Title: Re:
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 16:10:19
BTW it's going to be a dull appointment, whoever it is, if they can get the team at least looking like they give a shit that would be a major step forward.

Agree. I can tolerate a dogfight/ us being woefully shit, but to just roll over without any fight is the most frustrating aspect of our team recently.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 16:57:25
Not sure the club have censored anyone... Just stopped drip feeding information to the media. The fact that the local media have failed to respond to this by searching out stories says more about them rather than the club.

It's clear from that list that the bookies have no idea. . it's just a list of unemployed managers?

You know what I meant. They don't provide the local press with 'filler' content and bookmaker odds are prime 'filler' material. The Adver care about realistic odds just as much as the bookies care about realistic targets.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 17:31:35
What's Colin Wanker up to these days?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 17:38:05
Holloway? Hoddle? Lambert? Neville? Carragher? Tisdale?

Fuck me I'm less interested than I used to be but I thought I'd have noticed us being in the Championship with a big budget.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 17:58:38
For Power's model to work, it would need to be someone who is cheap, but has a good reputation for bringing on young kids. Or someone who could be a role model for young kids.

Again, I mentioned before, someone who I think (from what has been reported before) might be a good role model. He didn't like Cooper, from context, but kept very quiet when he was shown the door. My money goes on Darren Ward.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:01:50
For Power's model to work, it would need to be someone who is cheap, but has a good reputation for bringing on young kids. Or someone who could be a role model for young kids.

Again, I mentioned before, someone who I think (from what has been reported before) might be a good role model. He didn't like Cooper, from context, but kept very quiet when he was shown the door. My money goes on Darren Ward.

I could live with Ward getting the gig....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:08:22
For Power's model to work, it would need to be someone who is cheap, but has a good reputation for bringing on young kids. Or someone who could be a role model for young kids.

a certain ex-Swindon defender currently at Chelsea?


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:21:38
For Power's model to work, it would need to be someone who is cheap, but has a good reputation for bringing on young kids. Or someone who could be a role model for young kids.

Again, I mentioned before, someone who I think (from what has been reported before) might be a good role model. He didn't like Cooper, from context, but kept very quiet when he was shown the door. My money goes on Darren Ward.
Not sure if we have the Yam budget available?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:23:29
a certain ex-Swindon defender currently at Chelsea?

Problem with this sort of thing, is that a coach at Chelsea looking after the kids, is going to be on a good deal more than first team boss at STFC, and job security is generally better.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:36:27
if Williams does all the training anyway, what's the point of bringing in a youth team coach.

we'd be better off employing a nanny.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: michael on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:38:17
I reckon the new full time manager will be the bloke that runs the youth team, Scott Lindsey.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:43:31
if Williams does all the training anyway, what's the point of bringing in a youth team coach.


and if he does the training, he should go as well


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:46:52
if Williams does all the training anyway, what's the point of bringing in a youth team coach.

we'd be better off employing a nanny.

He hasn't been doing the training for a while apparently


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:50:21
interesting. who has then, cooper?

was there a bust up between Williams and power?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 18:56:24
if Williams does all the training anyway, what's the point of bringing in a youth team coach.

we'd be better off employing a nanny.

I used to know a bird who was a nanny....her employers lived in a massive pile near Pewsey, and were always buggering off, and leaving her with the sprog. They were quite happy for her to treat the place as her own, which meant inviting me around to drink from the wine cellar and spirits cabinet...and smoke massive Nicaraguan cigars, in homage to Daniel Ortega.....oh Sandinista.

Interesting to see how the other half live.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:24:48
interesting. who has then, cooper?

was there a bust up between Williams and power?

I've heard that they can't stand each other.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:40:32
I used to know a bird who was a nanny....her employers lived in a massive pile near Pewsey, and were always buggering off, and leaving her with the sprog. They were quite happy for her to treat the place as her own, which meant inviting me around to drink from the wine cellar and spirits cabinet...and smoke massive Nicaraguan cigars, in homage to Daniel Ortega.....oh Sandinista.

Interesting to see how the other half live.

You and your tales of past conquests Reg. What would my mum think  ;D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:41:06
Hopefully, for a team hurtling towards the relegation zone, Power wont appoint a novice manager.


If it was going to be Williams surely he would be put in temporary charge now - not himself.

I can see SoD being appointed but, given a choice, Colin Wanker for me.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:47:31
You and your tales of past conquests Reg. What would my mum think  ;D

She knew what I'm like  :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:57:26
He hasn't been doing the training for a while apparently
If he's not doing the training what is he doing?

We've all heard these rumours about Cooper falling out with Williams and now Williams falling out with Power....is there any evidence to back this up or is it just something that a "mate heard from some bloke down the pub"? I can't believe that Williams would still be at the club if Cooper and/or Power had fallen out with him. It's hard enough to believe that the manager would accept it but the owner, particularly one as pig-headed as Power seems to be, definitely wouldn't.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 19:59:51
I believe JFW.  She is one of the very few who is in some way ITK. 


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:03:53
Bookies favourite is now Poyet - http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/swindon/next-permanent-manager

My favourite is still Skullerud - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Ole_Skullerud


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:07:08
If he's not doing the training what is he doing?

We've all heard these rumours about Cooper falling out with Williams and now Williams falling out with Power....

Nobody said Williams has fallen out with Power.

And I second what Sax said, I understand JFW is privvy to certain information and that she would be honest when sharing such information.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:09:15
JFW is definitely ITK, however, I bet she hasn't heard of the mighty Tor.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:15:43
She's best mates with a players wag. And she's a TA. TA's don't lie.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:16:11
Nobody said Williams has fallen out with Power.

And I second what Sax said, I understand JFW is privvy to certain information and that she would be honest when sharing such information.

Did I misunderstand this then?
interesting. who has then, cooper?

was there a bust up between Williams and power?

I've heard that they can't stand each other.

I don't doubt JFW is in the know.....I'm just asking if there is anything to back up the rumours about Williams falling out with Cooper (....and maybe Power).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:18:38
Oh, whoops. Sorry. That was my misunderstanding, I misread it.

I've heard that Cooper and Williams can't stand each other. Not Williams and Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:19:40
ok.....



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Oxfordhater on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:21:05
Bookies favourite is now Poyet - http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/swindon/next-permanent-manager

My favourite is still Skullerud - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tor_Ole_Skullerud

Poyet, have to be happy with that. Can't see it happening though unfortunately.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:22:41

I'm just asking if there is anything to back up the rumours about Williams falling out with Cooper

No evidence from me, I just heard it from somebody that I find to be reliable. Make of it what you will, I'm no Chang.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: woolster on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:27:58
JFW is definitely ITK, however, I bet she hasn't heard of the mighty Tor.
your obsession with Norwegian men is getting very unhealthy  :gay:


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:37:46
your obsession with Norwegian men is getting very unhealthy  :gay:
It applies to both genders so it's bisexuality.

On a serious note I'd be quite happy with Poyet, unlikely but not entirely beyond the realms of possibility


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:39:08
Quote from: Flashheart
Quote
I'm just asking if there is anything to back up the rumours about Williams falling out with Cooper
No evidence from me, I just heard it from somebody that I find to be reliable. Make of it what you will, I'm no Chang.

I asked whether power and Williams fell out.

same as fh, heard it off somebody else. No substance, could have started down the pub for all I know


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: joteddyred on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:56:34
He hasn't been doing the training for a while apparently

Really?  That would tie in with him being rooted to the bench for the last couple of home games and not appearing to have any input to instructions.

What's he actually been doing though?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Spud on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 20:59:15
I've heard that Cooper and Williams can't stand each other. Not Williams and Power.

I 'heard' that also. The word 'hate' was used.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:00:40
All these names being bandied about... I reckon the appointment will be something that none of us would have expected.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:05:09
a surprise would be someone I have heard of.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:08:07
a surprise would be someone I have heard of.

This


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:10:05
I'd be amazed if Poyet wanted the gig. Surely the best we could hope for?

Not wanting to personally have a go at those that have posted, but I find it really disappointing when fans state they will not go again until x has left, or will stop going if y is appointed. Arse-licking or reviling managers isn't as important as supporting the team on a match day.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:12:22
I remember all the fans who said they would stop going if PDC got the job and 12 months later were all lapping it up when we won the league.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:21:17
JFW is definitely ITK, however, I bet she hasn't heard of the mighty Tor.
The Onion Router?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:29:27
Where has all this talk of Power and Williams hating each other come from? Would be interested to hear the details if anyone knows them


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:36:47
Where has all this talk of Power and Williams hating each other come from? Would be interested to hear the details if anyone knows them

Nobody has suggested it, it was a misunderstanding.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:36:57
there aren't any details. it probably isn't true. I asked, nobody has heard anything.

the only reason i asked in the first place was I heard someone mention it - this person is a good bloke, but who knows where it originated. dismissed it then Williams didn't take over as caretaker and 2+2=5.

lets put that to bed, dismiss it and go back to speculating on hopelessly optimistic managerial appointments :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:38:47
I hear Anton Rodgers dad is looking for a job.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:39:58
do, do we think power has someone lined up. i think he does, if only to make sense of the thinking of things.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Posh Red on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:41:48
I remember all the fans who said they would stop going if PDC got the job and 12 months later were all lapping it up when we won the league.

If it was Steve Evans that would stop me going


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:42:50
I think he likely has a replacement manager for the new manager lined up.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:43:06
I'd still go, but I'd probably spend a lot of the game shouting obscenities at him*

*unless were were winning, then if just sit in indignant silence


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:43:58
Quote from: Flashheart
I think he likely has a replacement manager for the new manager lined up.

blimey, one step ahead of himself


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:45:03
No manager would actually stop me going. I might insinuate as much, but I don't think there are any that would. Not even Lawrie Sanchez, Graham Rix or Malpas.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:45:55
Sorry to be a bit pants with the gossip but I'm not sure what Williams has been doing and I've never heard about Cooper & Williams not getting on!

And sorry Sonique I'm not sure about your Norwegian man either?!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: UncleGary on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:48:16
If it was Steve Evans that would stop me going

Much as I appreciate the managerial achievements he's accomplished, no way of getting round how he's talked about us in the past. If he is the odious character he appears to be by all accounts I'd probably rather have Lee Power as player/manager/chairman. And stick Ojamaa in goal.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 21:58:25
Sorry to be a bit pants with the gossip but I'm not sure what Williams has been doing and I've never heard about Cooper & Williams not getting on!

And sorry Sonique I'm not sure about your Norwegian man either?!

Worst ITK ever.

Sort it out woman!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 22:23:55
4 pages since this afternoon? that's more than on here all this year. Have I missed something?


Title: Re:
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 18, 2015, 22:28:21
I am getting bloody confused now, so Williams hasn't been coaching for months? And Cooper hasn't been managing for ages (some would mischievously suggest since January)....

So who is running the show? You can argue that Power is picking the team but as he is rarely here who is coaching them? Would explain why they are all injured if no one is training properly? And why if he is so tight has Power been paying Williams and Cooper for doing nowt?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, October 19, 2015, 00:04:21
Worst ITK ever.

Sort it out woman!

I'm possibly the worst person to be ITK!! Unfortunately babies are now the top of me and the besties priority list so what her boyfriend did at work today slides down the list of topics of discussion!  :girlgiggle:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 00:07:34
Yay! children. What the fuck is wrong with all of you


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, October 19, 2015, 01:53:15
If training hasn't really been happening, it might explain the leaky defence; why players aren't allowed to give interviews and why most of them pretend to be injured!

All sounds pretty far fetched...... Very Swindon.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 05:41:29
The rumour about Williams and Cooper not getting on came from someone I know whose boy is on the books at STFC - so, as far as rumours go, it had some substance.

 I remember Jack Barthram tweeting how he couldn't believe how unprofessionally run the club was when he left.

With Power having such a hands-on influence at the club but not actually being there on a day to day basis could have created the friction between the 2 as to who was 'in charge' and who did what.

This is why whoever takes over has to be given free rein but can you actually see Power retreating into the shadows to run the club but keeping his nose out of footballing matters.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Combe Down on Monday, October 19, 2015, 06:04:43
Yay! children. What the fuck is wrong with all of you

Having children is a lifestyle choice.

I refer the honourable members to my early answer: 'Lee Peacock'.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Monday, October 19, 2015, 06:47:02
If training hasn't really been happening, it might explain the leaky defence; why players aren't allowed to give interviews and why most of them pretend to be injured!

All sounds pretty far fetched...... Very Swindon.
I used to see steve hale most mornings at the gym except some mornings after games, even when they moved to calne, this has become more erratic now it would eaither be not at all or a lot later, so maybe he couldn't be bothered or this training thing.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pax Romana on Monday, October 19, 2015, 07:02:18
No manager would actually stop me going. I might insinuate as much, but I don't think there are any that would. Not even Lawrie Sanchez, Graham Rix or Malpas.

Ched Evans as player-manager


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 19, 2015, 07:03:29
I remember all the fans who said they would stop going if PDC got the job and 12 months later were all lapping it up when we won the league.
Not all of us. And not just me


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 07:29:20
Would Steve Evans be such a bad appointment.

Would definitely give the players a kick, and knows how to get results in the lower leagues.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, October 19, 2015, 07:34:22
Pretty sure Power and he would fall out spectacularly within a matter of days, if not hours


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 19, 2015, 07:42:05
If it's anyone other than Steve Evans, I'm never setting foot in the County Ground ever again**


** unless we're winning
** or to get out of any possible trips to IKEA


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:03:21
Pretty sure Power and he would fall out spectacularly within a matter of days, if not hours
He'd likely as not he hired and fired at the same interview.....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:12:57
Quote from: Frigby Daser
If training hasn't really been happening, it might explain the leaky defence; why players aren't allowed to give interviews and why most of them pretend to be injured!

All sounds pretty far fetched...... Very Swindon.


it's an interesting thought,  would explain everything.

but I think it was said that training was not being taken by Luke Williams recently, not that they weren't training,!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:13:04
This has a "caretaker" & "interim" manager scenario written all over it. IMHO who gets the (caretaker role, other than Power) will be until someone with more suitable credentials gets the gig long term (interim) and could well be to the end of the season. Any further tenure based on where we finished up. Of course i know like all of you here fcuk all about what goes on in the mind of our chairman. It may well be that he saw this coming ages ago and has been behind the scences sounding out a successor.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:23:06
Would Steve Evans be such a bad appointment.
Yes, he's a crook and a cheat. Nowhere near, thanks. Sometimes there are wider considerations than just whether or not a manager or player can do the job. I'd say the same about signing Ched Evans, for the same reasons.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:42:01
Would Steve Evans be such a bad appointment.

Would definitely give the players a kick, and knows how to get results in the lower leagues.

Read this, then think again.

http://twohundredpercent.net/?p=8698

Should be banned from football for life.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:42:52
Evans is taking Leeds training today, unless I've been whooshed by Twitter. Cellino and him should get on like the old lags they are!


Title: Next manager
Post by: LittleRed on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:51:34
Uwe Rosler has been released from Leeds could he be in the running?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:54:24
Evans is taking Leeds training today, unless I've been whooshed by Twitter. Cellino and him should get on like the old lags they are!
Match made in heaven.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, October 19, 2015, 08:59:30
I'm just putting this out there; but I wouldn't be averse to Danny Wilson coming back.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:02:25
Nile Ranger player manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:02:54
Perhaps one of our more experienced personnel should be player/manager.

Jordan Stewart it is, then.

How's about Chris Wilder - Cobblers are in a right state ATM - he'd jump ship


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:07:06
I'm just putting this out there; but I wouldn't be averse to Danny Wilson coming back.

It still baffles me, how a manager as experienced as Wilson, operating in by STFC standards, a helpful environment, managed to produce the worst side in living memory.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:08:05
I'm just putting this out there; but I wouldn't be averse to Danny Wilson coming back.

At least we'd be guaranteed another playoff failure!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:10:16
Perhaps one of our more experienced personnel should be player/manager.

Jordan Stewart it is, then.

How's about Chris Wilder - Cobblers are in a right state ATM - he'd jump ship

Obvious links aside, never really acheived much despite always having a decent budget...?

Not my wish, but wouldn't be surprised to see Shaun Derry crop up at some stage.

It sounds like Williams had basically given up while Coops was still there for one reason or another, so it's key he is re-engaged and fully committed to helping whoever comes in sort this shit out.n

The positive is that the new man gets injured players back, results should pick up irrelevant of who's in charge because of the calibre of player and then we should hopefully be able to get some sort of momentum to pull away from the bottom four.

Thinking about it, it's brilliant timing as with players returning, it can only improve.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:12:06
Quote from: Samdy Gray
I'm just putting this out there; but I wouldn't be averse to Danny Wilson coming back.
he's not exactly proven he's up for the fight last time we were in this position.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:13:05
Iffy ?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:16:23
Very iffy


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:29:00
What is Iffy up to these days? Crap football aside, he was a very pleaseant, well educated man


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:29:39
he's not exactly proven he's up for the fight last time we were in this position.

Could argue that he kept us up in 08/09.

And to be fair to him, I'm not sure we were ever bottom 4 with him in charge were we? We were definitely close. I think Wilson would have done a better job of staying up (or attempting to) than Hart did. But it's easy to say that now...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:32:54
Has anyone suggested Michael Appleton - he is on reputation the bests manager on the world.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:37:54
What is Iffy up to these days? Crap football aside, he was a very pleaseant, well educated man

Working for the PFA - http://www.thepfa.com/equalities/staff

Probably the manager I was saddest about not working out, he was as you said, a very good bloke and probably my first favourite player as a kid (It was him or Peter Thorne, who came first?)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: adje on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:38:39
Gus Poyet?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:42:25
Has anyone suggested Michael Appleton - he is on reputation the bests manager on the world.

In the summer when Cooper looked to be off, I suggested Appleton, and as usual got short shrift.

My thinking was used to working in difficult environments, trying to play possession football in lower leagues, not liked by the fans of current club, so could be persuaded.

Things change in football very quickly....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 09:57:31
The new training complex is looking like a white elephant already.

If Power chooses the next manager on the same basis as most of his players, cheap and cheerful aint going to do it.

Everyone thought Cooper was the cheap option when he was appointed and we just got lucky there, I reckon.

ASD is talking about Hockaday FFS, or someone  of that ilk. This appointment will show us just what ambition Power has as far as on the pitch is concerned.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:02:12
Grrrr why are that persons initials ASD - I always think we are talking about Lee Power being on the autistic spectrum!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:03:35
I don't understand why people start rumours or want someone who has previously been with the club.

Move on. Get someone who has no connection with STFC whatsoever.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:06:29
Exactly. Fuck off Sippo.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:07:20
Exactly. Fuck off Sippo.

Love you wino.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:10:50
What ASD says is irrelevant.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:20:14
There is not enough magic in this tree.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:25:03
statement is up, standard thanks and goodbye.

did rule power out of the job.

also said they hope to appoint within 2 weeks - so must have a pretty good idea on who they want

http://mobile.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/club-statement-mark-cooper-2751474.aspx

Quote
SWINDON Town can today confirm that they parted company with Mark Cooper at the weekend.

The football club would like to place on record their thanks to Mark for his outstanding work ethic and commitment to the job during his two-and-a-half-year tenure. Mark did a fantastic job which culminated in the club reaching the League One Play-Off Final last season.

Unfortunately, performances and results this term have not been as good as the club had hoped for with the current squad.

The Chairman, Lee Power thought it was time to make a change and informed Mark of his decision on Saturday night after the defeat at Millwall.

Lee will take temporary charge of the team but will definitely not be the club’s next permanent manager.

The club have already started drawing up a shortlist and plan to have a manager in place by the end of the month.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: lambourn red on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:51:46
Power says "We will be looking at the market that is relevant to us" forget most of the names that have been put on the bookies shortlist Lee has laughed most of them off. I suspect we are going to be looking at a Non League manager looking at his first go in the League or an ex pro with coaching badges, we are not going to be getting an experienced guy certainly not one that has managed at Championship level or above.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:52:30
£40-£50 a week is the budget.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 10:52:52
Surely that's below the minimum wage. Sack the board.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:00:03
Quote from: lambourn red
Power says "We will be looking at the market that is relevant to us" forget most of the names .

someone who can nurture and motivate young talent then.

the model isn't likely to change.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ron dodgers on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:05:35
The new training complex is looking like a white elephant already.


Why would you say that?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:18:20
I must confess in light of all that has been said, it will be very funny if we win all the games when Power is in charge!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:19:52
I must confess in light of all that has been said, it will be very funny if we win all the games when Power is in charge!

Or lose them 6-0. Equally funny. Except it wouldn't be.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:27:15
Does Neil Redfern have a job at the moment?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:30:56
Daryl Clarke


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:31:08
Does Neil Redfern have a job at the moment?

Think he retrained as a tree surgeon and helps out at his local vets on his time off.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:32:23
Think he retrained as a tree surgeon and helps out at his local vets on his time off.

Great banter, cheers


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:32:57
Alan McLoughlin


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:33:38
I don't know who you are, but I bet you like nandos you complete shit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:44:57
Power apparently on Talk Sport this afternoon. I'll keep an ear out and post when he's on.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:47:22
I don't know who you are, but I bet you like nandos you complete shit.
Eh?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:48:02
I don't know who you are, but I bet you like nandos you complete shit.

A Nandos, or a cheeky Nandos?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:50:31
sorry, that was aimed at whoever responded to me with the word "banter".


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:54:10
The new training complex is looking like a white elephant already.

If Power chooses the next manager on the same basis as most of his players, cheap and cheerful aint going to do it.

Everyone thought Cooper was the cheap option when he was appointed and we just got lucky there, I reckon.

ASD is talking about Hockaday FFS, or someone  of that ilk. This appointment will show us just what ambition Power has as far as on the pitch is concerned.

Cooper's spell as caretaker was a sufficient interview and he deserved the job.

Not levelling this at you in particular but the fans need to get over the fact we're not going to spend big. It doesn't mean we won't have decent seasons or perform as well as other teams spending a lot more. The last couple of seasons have shown that.

The money we spend is not the common denominator comparing last season with this season. These are just part of the highs and lows of being a football fan. I think people should wait until Cooper's replacement has a fair crack at turning things around before (re)questioning Lee Power's model for running the club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 11:59:16
I wasn't going tomorrow night but I will now out of morbid curiosity.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:00:54
My money would go on someone with experience as a coach probably first 'managerial' post - who is at Southampton / Liverpool / Brighton  / Norwich that is rated highly as a coach


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:03:39
But we have a coach


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: since 75 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:07:05
Cooper's spell as caretaker was a sufficient interview and he deserved the job.

Not levelling this at you in particular but the fans need to get over the fact we're not going to spend big. It doesn't mean we won't have decent seasons or perform as well as other teams spending a lot more. The last couple of seasons have shown that.

The money we spend is not the common denominator comparing last season with this season. These are just part of the highs and lows of being a football fan. I think people should wait until Cooper's replacement has a fair crack at turning things around before (re)questioning Lee Power's model for running the club.
This is the best post I've read on here for a long time.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:10:01
This is the best post I've read on here for a long time.

What including all Ells's posts?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:12:52
Cooper's spell as caretaker was a sufficient interview and he deserved the job.

Not levelling this at you in particular but the fans need to get over the fact we're not going to spend big. It doesn't mean we won't have decent seasons or perform as well as other teams spending a lot more. The last couple of seasons have shown that.

The money we spend is not the common denominator comparing last season with this season. These are just part of the highs and lows of being a football fan. I think people should wait until Cooper's replacement has a fair crack at turning things around before (re)questioning Lee Power's model for running the club.
But this depends on whether our present problems are just bad luck with injuries or because of the whole structure at the club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:27:03
But this depends on whether our present problems are just bad luck with injuries or because of the whole structure at the club.

Or the manager just lost the players/ran out of ideas which seems to happen a lot in football. We didn't exactly start the season with flying colours without the injury crisis, but quite correct it could be down to the structure. I think it's far too soon to tell and I'm looking forward to seeing what the manager can do with the current squad.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:36:55
Power apparently on Talk Sport this afternoon. I'll keep an ear out and post when he's on.

Bloody hell listening to Talksport all afternoon, that's the ultimate taking a bullet for the team!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:37:47
Pretty much how I feel. Whoever comes in needs a big personality and be capable of pulling together what appears to be a fractured club


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:41:14
Pretty much how I feel. Whoever comes in needs a big personality and be capable of pulling together what appears to be a fractured club

Exactly from the pictures doing the rounds on Twitter it cannot have been very encouraging for a team of young players to glance at the dug out during the match on Saturday to see the manager sat doiwn playing with his mobile phone... unless he was on for a massive Candy Crush score?

Cooper is who he is, but he never struck me as a motivator or particularly enthusiastic which is what young inexperienced players would probably need when they know they are going out to get battered.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, October 19, 2015, 12:42:27
The new training complex is looking like a white elephant already.
Well that's not true is it?!

The new facility will allow the club to be back training in the Borough, allow the club to set-up a facility that meets their specific requirement s rather than making do with existing facilities. Having our own training ground will be a massive step forward and is investing in the long term which has long been needed. Also there have been suggestions that Calne has been a contributing factor with some of the injuries so the sooner we are training on our own purpose built facility the better in my opinion.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:03:19
Martin Ling has suddenly become 5/4 favourite


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:13:16
If it was something big like next bake off winner, or masterchef, then the bookies odds are definately worth keeping an eye on.

 In the case of next Swindon manager, Ling going favorite could just be that somebody misheard something in the pub and stuck £20 on, doubling the bookies liabilities.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:19:42
Bookies odds are complete bollocks, really, but it keeps the interest up


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:30:18
It's not that they're bollocks, it's just that they are what they are. A reflection of betting patterns. I could probably get Sheena Easton listed for a tenner.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RJack on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:31:14
As others have said anyone expecting a big name are going to be bitterly disappointed.  The names linked to the job are the same names linked to every vacant managers position in the Football League.

Reading the Adver website some of the dumb postings on there are just plain laughable especially the idiots who seem to think Williams should go as well.  Power has taken the position temporarily because Williams doesn't want the added pressure of managing.  He has only ever wanted to coach and its the job he enjoys.  I don't think the relationship between Cooper & Williams was as bad as made out but there was certainly indiffrences between the 2 on the way we play.

It has been clear to see we have lost our way these last few months the way we play including the build up to Wembley.  Ok injuries haven't helped but I can't help but feel Cooper had a lot too do with the sudden change of way we play.

The next few games will see if we can improve,  it's going to be hard especially with the current injuries though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: flammableBen on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:34:29
Rodney Jack


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:44:47
Clayton Ince


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RJack on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:48:44
Paul Ince


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:49:43
Guylain Ndumbu-Nsungu


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:49:49
Craig Revel Horwood


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 13:54:25
It's not that they're bollocks, it's just that they are what they are. A reflection of betting patterns. I could probably get Sheena Easton listed for a tenner.

Could you get Hope Powell on there? She's got all the coaching badges, out of work, and I'm sure would jump at the opportunity.

We need something different...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:06:07
John Sitton 8)

Could imagine Power doing a Sitton style half time rant if we are losing tomorrow :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Super Hans on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:10:42
Well, I guess if the players perform without fire tomorrow night we can confirm that the problem is rooted deeper than Mark Cooper.

Injuries are one thing but lacklustre performances will never be accepted.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:10:56
And bring your fucking dinner!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:14:47
I would love to get Jimmy Bullard, purely for the entertainment factor.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:15:42
Power just been on SSN.
It said Cooper was sacked for not sticking to our high risk passing strategy as that is what allowed us to sell players for good money at this level?

Not because we're shit then?

The last thing we need right now is high risk passing football, shut up shop, play ugly and get a few points.

Also....Joe Cole on loan at Coventry?!!?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ginginho on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:21:58
Also....Joe Cole on loan at Coventry?!!?

Yup, him, Adam Armstrong and Ryan Kent all top quality loan signings. I reckon they'll win the league.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:23:40
Even at his age and the lack of football over the last few years Joe Cole should take the piss at this level?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:25:54
....and his age is only 33!

I hope that isn't someting our mate Tim offered us but we turned down due to age!!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:34:33
Even at his age and the lack of football over the last few years Joe Cole should take the piss at this level?

Especially against some of our defenders


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 14:37:56
Ian Barraclough is 12/1.

Is that the warder from Porridge?


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 19, 2015, 15:10:18
We have history as a club of getting someone in nobody knows or who hasn't been in management before. It will probably be one of these and I will be glad for it.


Title: Re:
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 15:14:10
We have history as a club of getting someone in nobody knows or who hasn't been in management before. It will probably be one of these and I will be glad for it.

Think the last manager we got in who I hadn't heard of was Bert Head.  Surely quite the reverse is the case, we've either got in big names or promoted known people from within.


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:01:38
When I say nobody knows Reg I mean your average punter, not those with an encyclopedic knowledge of the personnel associated with the game.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Baggins on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:04:21
When I say nobody knows Reg I mean your average punter, not those with an encyclopedic knowledge of the personnel associated with the game.

Lou Macari, Ossie Ardiles, Glenn Hoddle, Steve McMahon, Roy Evans, Colin Todd, Dennis Wise, Paul Sturrock, Danny Wilson, Paolo Di Canio.  I'd say there is a few in there who are well-known to the average punter.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:05:35
but not McDonald, Cooper and at stretch Malpas


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:15:22
 Lingy now odds on!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:17:26
Lou Macari, Ossie Ardiles, Glenn Hoddle, Steve McMahon, Roy Evans, Colin Todd, Dennis Wise, Paul Sturrock, Danny Wilson, Paolo Di Canio.  I'd say there is a few in there who are well-known to the average punter.
Half of those may have been well known as players, but we were their first foray into management. A big name may put bums on seats initially, but they're not a guarantee of success.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honkytonk on Monday, October 19, 2015, 18:22:50
Half of those may have been well known as players, but we were their first foray into management. A big name may but bums on seats initially, but they're not a guarantee of success.
Ta herthab, explained my point.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 19:26:17
Ta herthab, explained my point.

I still fail to see how your point that we get in managers that nobody knows stacks up...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, October 19, 2015, 19:34:07
People on the Adver articles are genuinely suggesting Hoddle is a viable option.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: derbystfc on Monday, October 19, 2015, 19:41:08
I quite like the sound of Hope Powell that Reg alluded to earlier, obviously knows the game well enough, and think of the positive press coverage that would come from that, it could work well.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 19, 2015, 19:43:53
I quite like the sound of Hope Powell that Reg alluded to earlier, obviously knows the game well enough, and think of the positive press coverage that would come from that, it could work well.

She could be like a mother to Jordan Stewart....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Baggins on Monday, October 19, 2015, 19:50:50
Half of those may have been well known as players, but we were their first foray into management. A big name may put bums on seats initially, but they're not a guarantee of success.

I agree - a lot of those turned out to be very poor.  I was simply disagreeing with the idea that we have a history of appointing unknowns.  We don't - maybe we should...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, October 19, 2015, 20:00:05
People on the Adver articles are genuinely suggesting Hoddle is a viable option.



They've been suggesting that for 20 years


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 20:03:37
Quote from: sonicyouth
People on the Adver articles are genuinely suggesting Hoddle is a viable option.


other than the cost, and lack of control of the team, he could be quite good with the youngsters.

no I'm not suggesting he's viable


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Monday, October 19, 2015, 20:03:55
People on the Adver articles are genuinely suggesting Hoddle is a viable option.


Has he still got that yoof set up in Spain to supply clubs with young cheap kids to exploit?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, October 19, 2015, 20:06:40
Alan Dyton.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 19, 2015, 20:06:43
Quote
I quite like the sound of Hope Powell that Reg alluded to earlier, obviously knows the game well enough, and think of the positive press coverage that would come from that, it could work well.
positive press, I doubt it..

she does have a UEFA pro licence though. do we'd be sorted for our champions league campaign ..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 07:36:01
Worth noting I believe Luke Williams and Martin Ling worked together at Leyton Orient for a spell.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:04:39
Worth noting I believe Luke Williams and Martin Ling worked together at Leyton Orient for a spell.

Lingy now odds on fav for what it's worth.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:29:28
Lingy now odds on fav for what it's worth.

Is he back in a good place after his struggles ?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Paolo69 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:33:19
Is he back in a good place after his struggles ?

I believe so. Think he scouts for Walsall, runs his own football schools and does a bit of commentary etc. He's a viable option that's for sure.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:36:03
6/7 years ago I'd have loved to have Lingy here but now? I'm not so sure. He certainly played an attractive style of football with reasonable success at Leyton Orient but that was a few years ago now. I think the fans would take to him though, which could be important. If he does come in, hopefully he can convince Power to hire a defensive coach!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:39:52
I'd be happy with that if it happened.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:44:44
I'd be happy with that if it happened.

I wouldn't. Take the Swindon link out of it and you wouldn't touch him with a barge pole (and that's obviously completely unrelated to his mental struggles over the last few years).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:50:27
Be interesting to see what "faces" will be spotted in the ground tonight.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:51:06
Short term see how it goes, see if he's up to it. Admit it could go either way depending on his mental state and how it holds up. Just have a hunch it could be the right appointment.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:57:19
But the manager's remit at STFC should, in theory, be less stressful than most.

No responsibility for recruitment so no travelling to watch games 5 nights a week.

Might suit him down to the ground


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 08:57:55
I'd be happy with that if it happened.

I'm with Tails in the not so sure camp....

Lingy would be fully commited to the sexy football, as a disciple of Hoddle, and I guess given his recent well known difficulties, would be happy to slot into a role where the responsibilties were shared.

Few years back now, but when we were away at Torquay, it was great when a chant of Ooh Shaun Taylor went up as the great man stepped out heading for the bench....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:01:37
Lingy doesn't have a great managerial record. Not exactly a bad one either, but certainly not great. Stats can be skewed according to the resources he had at his disposal though of course.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:09:00
Lingy doesn't have a great managerial record. Not exactly a bad one either, but certainly not great. Stats can be skewed according to the resources he had at his disposal though of course.

A candidate for our job shouldn't be judged on win ratio though, as player development is more important to Power. If Cooper was applying for his old job, he could point to an impressive CV in that regard.

Maybe you could do some research on Lingy with regards to this....

The fact that he spunked £70K on Billiy Bodin would worry me..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:18:38
A candidate for our job shouldn't be judged on win ratio though, as player development is more important to Power. If Cooper was applying for his old job, he could point to an impressive CV in that regard.

Maybe you could do some research on Lingy with regards to this....

The fact that he spunked £70K on Billiy Bodin would worry me..

You mean rovers goal machine!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:28:01
Bodin played quite a lot for Torquay and was by all accounts not bad until he got a really bad knee injury. Certainly more successful than Elliot de Paul Benyon's move the other way.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:48:43
I'm getting the feeling that what Power is saying about Poyet being unlikely as too expensive is exactly what he said about Ajose.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 09:58:09
Just had an interesting chat with someone supposedly ITK.

New manager will be a low profile front man taken on only until the end of the season - Williams/Power will be in charge

Expect Kasim and Rodgers to play tonight as neither were injured Saturday - didn't want to play for Cooper. There had been general unrest in the squad.

Now, I'm only relaying what I've been told - don't shoot the messenger. Make of it what you will.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:03:13
Just had an interesting chat with someone supposedly ITK.

New manager will be a low profile front man taken on only until the end of the season - Williams/Power will be in charge

Expect Kasim and Rodgers to play tonight as neither were injured Saturday - didn't want to play for Cooper. There had been general unrest in the squad.

Now, I'm only relaying what I've been told - don't shoot the messenger. Make of it what you will.

Well the Kasim/Rodgers bit is in the Adver, so hardly hot off the press. Similarly, you don't need inside info to suspect it will be a low profile appointment, because they'll have to work with Williams/Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:04:10
Re Kasim and Rodgers, I wonder whether there was some unrest in the camp resulting in injuries being over played?

Think it was telling last week when talking about Hylton or Obika (can't remember which one) and Coops said he's "apparently ruled himself out" or something to that effect.

Unsurprisingly, think the new guy will be in exactly the same mould as Cooper, and act as a frontman and bench-shouter for a management team of four - same as it always has been under Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:04:50

Expect Kasim and Rodgers to play tonight as neither were injured Saturday - didn't want to play for Cooper. There had been general unrest in the squad.

Then we should get rid of them. Even if you hate your boss you are paid to do a job.
Spoilt little twits !


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:05:54
But the manager's remit at STFC should, in theory, be less stressful than most.

No responsibility for recruitment so no travelling to watch games 5 nights a week.

Might suit him down to the ground

Exactly it appears that all the manager has to do is pick the team, and sit in the dug out playing on your phone - would suit a lot of managers.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:13:11
Then we should get rid of them. Even if you hate your boss you are paid to do a job.
Spoilt little twits !

Except we can leave our jobs and get another if we cant stand someone, they cant as such.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bobby on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:36:43
Nothing but complete made up rumour from myself but it wouldnt surprise me if the new boss was a unknown foreigner. Most are used to working in the current set up we have and could come cheap.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 10:39:55
Apprently Kassim is a bit of an arse - especially since he came back from playing for Iraq


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:03:14
Apprently Kassim is a bit of an arse - especially since he came back from playing for Iraq
Is that from someone "In the Know"....?
 8)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:09:14
To be honest I really couldn't give a fuck if players are 'nice' or total wankers. I watch them play football, not invite them to tea, or go out for a drink with them. From the few people I've spoken to at the club Anton Rodgers is the nicest player you could meet. I'd rather watch Nile Ranger play football....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:13:52
To be honest I really couldn't give a fuck if players are 'nice' or total wankers. I watch them play football, not invite them to tea, or go out for a drink with them. From the few people I've spoken to at the club Anton Rodgers is the nicest player you could meet. I'd rather watch Nile Ranger play football....

I seem to recall reading somewhere that if you got Ranger on his own away from 'friends' he was one of the nicest and politest footballers they had ever interviewed?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:21:44
I seem to recall reading somewhere that if you got Ranger on his own away from 'friends' he was one of the nicest and politest footballers they had ever interviewed?
Yes but that was the senior reporter from "Total Wanker Monthly"...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:24:07
I seem to recall reading somewhere that if you got Ranger on his own away from 'friends' he was one of the nicest and politest footballers they had ever interviewed?

Wasn't Ranger away from his 'friends' when he beat his girlfriend?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DRS on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:39:17
Wasn't Ranger away from his 'friends' when he beat his girlfriend?
He slapped his sister. Agree total cunt but goes to show how truth can be twisted easily enough on the internet


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:45:13
Just had an interesting chat with someone supposedly ITK.

Expect Kasim and Rodgers to play tonight as neither were injured Saturday - didn't want to play for Cooper. There had been general unrest in the squad.

Now, I'm only relaying what I've been told - don't shoot the messenger. Make of it what you will.
My understanding is that Yasser had a MRI scan yesterday on his injury - or non-injury!  Obika is having injections in the hope he may be fit enough to play.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:56:33
He slapped his sister. Agree total cunt but goes to show how truth can be twisted easily enough on the internet

I didn't know it was his sister - I lost interest in him and his antics by that point - but it was more than a slap so yes I agree with your last point.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:57:31
Yes but that was the senior reporter from "Total Wanker Monthly"...

Possibly so... I wish I remember where it was written as it really caught my eye at the time as it seemed to contradict everything else.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 12:58:40
Possibly so... I wish I remember where it was written as it really caught my eye at the time as it seemed to contradict everything else.

Actually on the evidence 'total contradiction and distorted' I suspect it must have been the Advertiser!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 13:01:15
Quote from: DRS
Quote
Wasn't Ranger away from his 'friends' when he beat his girlfriend?
He slapped his sister. Agree total cunt but goes to show how truth can be twisted easily enough on the internet
what if his girlfriend was his sister, you both be right then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ghanimah on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 13:02:26
He slapped his sister. Agree total cunt but goes to show how truth can be twisted easily enough on the internet
what if his girlfriend was his sister, you both be right then.

I wasn''t aware he came from Oxford...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:05:14
Shaun Derry is in the house...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:06:46
What are his odds?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:11:40
Shaun Derry is in the house...
How do you know?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:12:42
How do you know?

The wonders of Twitter.

He could be scouting for all we know.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:12:55
My understanding is that everyone is very understanding on this forum.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:15:18
The wonders of Twitter.

He could be scouting for all we know.
The wonder of who's Twitter?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:16:13
The wonder of who's Twitter?

Steele-Davis.

Unless the scurvy knave has been fooled by tans.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:16:17
tansmedia no doubt


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:16:56
Hodgetts said on the commentary


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:18:02
Hodgetts said on the commentary
you've gone global!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:20:40
:D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Mother Brown on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:26:45
Worth noting I believe Luke Williams and Martin Ling worked together at Leyton Orient for a spell.
Sounds a bit "Harry Potter"  ish.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:29:29
What are his odds?

Market appears to currently be suspended on Sky Bet


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 19:42:48
Shaun Derry - no thanks


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:06:00
If it is Derry, it's sad to see the manager appointed on the basis that they're available and won't cause any trouble. I'd rather see someone untested than someone who won 3 in 24 games at Notts County.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:07:46
If it is Derry, it's sad to see the manager appointed on the basis that they're available and won't cause any trouble. I'd rather see someone untested than someone who won 3 in 24 games at Notts County.

Yep.  Hardly worthy of the club who appointed Ardiles, Hoddle and (yes) PDC.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:19:05
Sounds like an ideal "yes man" for Lee Power?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:41:51
It had better not be. He's already shown he cant keep a crap side up.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:49:58
He dropped Drissa Traore though, so every cloud and all that


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Posh Red on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 20:54:09
Paul Daniels


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: StfcRusty on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:09:14
Mr H Houdini


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:10:58
Apparently there are four or five LP is looking at.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:12:51
I don't really care who it is anymore, don't think any manager will save this team from relegation


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:14:47
I don't really care who it is anymore, don't think any manager will save this team from relegation
We all know the manager is just a front man, nothing will change with a new one.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:15:51
Quite interesting that LP said that mark cooper changed things on the training ground recently which backfired.

Williams back coaching as he was last season. Mysterious.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:16:29
Well it's been confirmed that Williams has not been involved in training, (and is now back).

We can only speculate as to why that happened in the first place*, but it could explain a lot.

*My guess is that Power/Williams suggested that he does it himself if he knows better.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:19:38
Quote
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  5m5 minutes ago
Power did hint that Mark Cooper changed things on the training ground in recent weeks. It "backfired" was his word. #stfc

If that's the case, then all all sort off beginning to add up a bit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:22:21
If that's the case, then all all sort off beginning to add up a bit.

Does that mean there's a chance that it might turn around?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:31:31
If that's the case, then all all sort off beginning to add up a bit.
Except our poor run of form started well before that. We've been a bit crap since March, when Williams was apparently still happily ensconced


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Outletred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:38:49
Power should just give the job to Williams.

You cannot expect a new manager to come in, not take training and have no autonomy.

I do think Cooper had run his course, however he is also a convenient fall guy as well


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:42:52
Except our poor run of form started well before that. We've been a bit crap since March, when Williams was apparently still happily ensconced

We've been crap since about November/December, from what I've heard that's about the same time that things started to get a tad tetchy.

Sorry to be a bit chang, not trying to pretend I'm ITK.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:43:24
Power should just give the job to Williams.



Maybe Williams doesn't want the job?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:44:51
I think our bad run was more likely linked to "toogooditus" when Kassim and Luongo came back from the Asia cup.

Power said Williams was training all last year, shame he forgot the defensive side.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:46:58
I think our bad run was more likely linked to "toogooditus" when Kassim and Luongo came back from the Asia cup.

Power said Williams was training all last year, shame he forgot the defensive side.

Despite our high risk approach, we actually had a reasonable defensive record last season until it started to go Pete Tong.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:47:43
I don't really care who it is anymore, don't think any manager will save this team from relegation

Bloody hell at least judge them when the team is back somewhere near to full strength


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: SuperBosnian on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:49:09
Keith Hill would be a great appointment, he plays attractive football on a low budget. Although I doubt he'd want to work under Power's regime.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:50:22
Bloody hell at least judge them when the team is back somewhere near to full strength


Madness


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:52:12
What on earth has Williams been doing for all this time then?  It's all very odd. A coach not coaching!



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:52:32
Despite our high risk approach, we actually had a reasonable defensive record last season until it started to go Pete Tong.

We conceeded 19 in our last 10 league games.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:53:28
Despite our high risk approach, we actually had a reasonable defensive record last season until it started to go Pete Tong.

Just to back that up:....

http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-one/2014-2015/table/2014-11-01

Worst in the top 6, but not far behind.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 21:58:31
We conceeded 19 in our last 10 league games.

Yeah, which coincides with the time that I heard things had started to get tetchy.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 22:03:03
Actually, December was even better defensively: http://www.statto.com/football/stats/england/league-one/2014-2015/table/2014-12-02



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 22:09:09
Keith Hill would be a great appointment, he plays attractive football on a low budget. Although I doubt he'd want to work under Power's regime.

Plus he wears a flatcap

Unfortunately he is probably a no-go as it would be a sideways move, if your being generous, for him


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, October 20, 2015, 23:30:07
We've been crap since about November/December, from what I've heard that's about the same time that things started to get a tad tetchy.
I'm sure that will have had a bearing, but I was more responding to the idea that Williams resuming coaching would sort everything out. My point was that it's not as simple as "Williams hasn't been doing the coaching this season so that's why we're crap" as he was doing the coaching during the latter stages of last season when we were also pretty crap. While he may or may not have been bessies with Cooper during that period, it's not as straightforward as simply waving the magic Williams wand and all will be well again. The problems are more deep-seated than that. I'm hoping they don't ultimately come down to Power's "philosophy" as I suspect that that is the one thing in all of the various possible factors that will not change


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 02:43:20
Powers philospohy will have to change. I can understand having his philosophy but there has be the licence to adapt and change it when required.

Has anyone got out of this division playing total football with kids and nothing else?
Different opposition, different games require different tactics.

If ever there was a game to abandon total football and grind out a result, last nights game was that game.
Stopping it for one games doesnt mean its done and dusted forever.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 03:35:39
Why does Power keep repeating that we were '90 minutes from Wembley last season'.

Said it last night and 3 times during the last phone-in.

I'm almost certain we were at Wembley last season - unfortunately.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bogus Dave on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 06:02:52
A lot of our bad run at the end of last season can also be put down to player resting I think


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:29:03
A lot of our bad run at the end of last season can also be put down to player resting I think

Similarly much of this seasons run can be attributed to players like Kasim 'resting'


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Riddick on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:31:18
So anyway. Ling seems to tick most of the boxes from what i read this morning. Desperate to get back into management, agrees with the overall footballing philosophy, knows and has worked with Williams, former player in our most successful spell, has been scouting for Walsall and therefore knows the division and will be pretty cheap. Doesn't do much to excite but given the price bracket we are working in i struggle to see many that will fit better. Perhaps he can get Taylor in to teach us to defend!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:45:05
This is going to be the most uninspiring search for a manager ever !


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:46:55
Hodgetts asked Power about Lingy pre match yesterday and Power said he's someone they are wanting to talk to with the club connection and all the other plus sides going for him.

Whether that was bluff and bluster I dont know.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:46:57
Why does Power keep repeating that we were '90 minutes from Wembley last season'.

Said it last night and 3 times during the last phone-in.

I'm almost certain we were at Wembley last season - unfortunately.

Yep you could argue we never turned up


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 08:53:38
So anyway. Ling seems to tick most of the boxes from what i read this morning. Desperate to get back into management, agrees with the overall footballing philosophy, knows and has worked with Williams, former player in our most successful spell, has been scouting for Walsall and therefore knows the division and will be pretty cheap. Doesn't do much to excite but given the price bracket we are working in i struggle to see many that will fit better. Perhaps he can get Taylor in to teach us to defend!

We still leaked goals back in the Taylor/Calderwood pairing era. The fact he scored about 13 goals the season we went up to the premier league was a bigger factor. The last team we had that I can remember when we were a real threat from corners in the traditional sense.
I'd be happy with Lingy


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:03:43
I'm sure that will have had a bearing, but I was more responding to the idea that Williams resuming coaching would sort everything out.

Well I didn't say that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:14:34
Why does Power keep repeating that we were '90 minutes from Wembley last season'.

Said it last night and 3 times during the last phone-in.

I'm almost certain we were at Wembley last season - unfortunately.

If traffic is ok then we are about 90 minutes from Wembley.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chrystovski on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:16:52
If traffic is ok then we are about 90 minutes from Wembley.

 :D :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick: :clap:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:19:47
Powers philospohy will have to change. I can understand having his philosophy but there has be the licence to adapt and change it when required.
Good luck with that. He doesn't come across as someone who takes well to criticism or even an opposing point of view, in fact he seems remarkably thin-skinned for all the bluster. e.g. the "media ban" stuff.

Maybe, contrary to all the assumptions that Cooper was just a frontman/cipher and Williams was the real backroom genius, the breakdown in the relationship came because Cooper stood up to Power and said "Look, this isn't working" and Williams was the Power yes man?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:23:26
Maybe, contrary to all the assumptions that Cooper was just a frontman/cipher and Williams was the real backroom genius, the breakdown in the relationship came because Cooper stood up to Power and said "Look, this isn't working" and Williams was the Power yes man?

Surely you're not suggesting that people on the internet don't actually know everything about everything?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:23:36
Well I didn't say that.
Sorry, I know you didn't. I hit reply to your post but what I said was actually a more general response to the "Williams as messiah" mood in some of the rest of the thread. My bad.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:24:23
Surely you're not suggesting that people on the internet don't actually know everything about everything?
Blimey, put like that, well no, obviously not. Where's Chang to let us all in on the ITK when you need him?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:35:56
Surely you're not suggesting that people on the internet don't actually know everything about everything?

Heretic... and stop calling him Shirley!


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:43:52
for no other reason than guy feel I'd rather go down the McDonald type route than go for lingy. not sure why.

will get behind whoever, obviously....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 09:58:20
for no other reason than guy feel I'd rather go down the McDonald type route than go for lingy. not sure why.

will get behind whoever, obviously....

What a manager who lasts about three weeks and then we get lumbered with his assistant? ;)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 10:07:31
not quite what I meant, though that route does end in an inglorious Wembley no show


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 13:43:57
Shaun Derry
Wally downes
martin ling
barraclough

all linked and seem depressingly realistic.

actually I don't know who barraclough is, so on that basis he's my favourite


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 13:47:27
Barraclough interview with Power

www.youtube.com/watch?v=HTS2rAr-P0I


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 13:48:57
Or is it Roy Barraclough

(http://corrie.net/profiles/interviews/barraclough2.jpg)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 13:53:03
At least Downes is a defensive coach.

Just give us one name to get excited about. Doesn't have to be expensive, just interesting.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:00:16
Ian Barraclough - Former Sligo manager - Former Motherwell manager
Lee Power - brings in Ojama former Motherwell player - Says we play Irish style football

Hmmmm ?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:09:11
Nah. Think the common denominator is that they've not been very good elsewhere recently and are so desperate for a job they'll comply with the system.

That of course, does not mean they won't do well here. It's simply that the appointment is made on the basis of "are you prepared to work under these conditions" rather than successful past performance.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:14:23
Think people need to realise we shop at Lidl not Marks & Spencer


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DRS on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:15:15
Seeing alot of people saying no to everyone. Anyone got any realistic targets?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:15:33
Think people need to realise we shop at Lidl not Marks & Spencer

99p shop


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:17:26
Quote
Think people need to realise we shop at Lidl not Marks & Spencer
you reckon?

was just hoping for something unexpected, not expensive, not a name, we all know they are out of reach.

to be honest anything to give hope

that said,  players coming back is possibly more significant.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:18:53
Quote from: DRS
Seeing alot of people saying no to everyone. Anyone got any realistic targets?

not really our job to is it. can only react to what's being mentioned.

if I win the euro lottery millions I'll have a stab at it.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:41:05
The aim with players is to uncover a gem, for a bargain. Why not apply the same principle to the manager?

Instead, the shortlist reflects mediocrity. It's almost as if going for a desperate manager means that they're more pliable.

I'd rather shop for a bargain than for damaged goods.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 14:56:37
The aim with players is to uncover a gem, for a bargain. Why not apply the same principle to the manager?

Instead, the shortlist reflects mediocrity. It's almost as if going for a desperate manager means that they're more pliable.

I'd rather shop for a bargain than for damaged goods.

Which is why, I'd go for someone like Darren Ward...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:10:44
The aim with players is to uncover a gem, for a bargain. Why not apply the same principle to the manager?

Instead, the shortlist reflects mediocrity. It's almost as if going for a desperate manager means that they're more pliable.

I'd rather shop for a bargain than for damaged goods.

Do we have a shortlist, just seen loads of speculation and the fact that Shaun Derry was there last night?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:12:35
I'd imagine it's going to be Ling - town legend, so why not, he ticks the boxes, and it would be a positive move to give the guy a chance after his mental health problems.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:14:10
I'd imagine it's going to be Ling - town legend, so why not, he ticks the boxes, and it would be a positive move to give the guy a chance after his mental health problems.

Or push him over the edge?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:20:41
He's been ill. He's got better. Time to move on with his life, I hope he gets the job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:29:49
Is Aljofree still involved in football?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:31:43
Quote from: Levi lapper
He's been ill. He's got better. Time to move on with his life, I hope he gets the job.

got to assume he's on top of his health as he could be.

wouldn't be my choice based on his managerial record. not going to strop though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:31:53
He's been ill. He's got better. Time to move on with his life, I hope he gets the job.

I must confess I am indifferent to him getting the job but if he does he will at least unite much of the fan base (hopefully)?

His win percentages (even at Orient) were never been as good as Cooper's were here (equally true with Shaun Derry)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:32:41
http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/martin-ling-interview-former-leyton-orient-manager-on-seeking-therapy-for-mental-health-issues-and-10466664.html

 


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:34:19
Is Aljofree still involved in football?

Not sure he was involved in football when he was here even... did a good line in offering out entire stands of away fans, but football naaah


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:35:11
got to assume he's on top of his health as he could be.

wouldn't be my choice based on his managerial record. not going to strop though.

I would support him more if, like at Torquay, he brought in Shaun Taylor - In control, as assistant!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 15:47:50
Is Aljofree still involved in football?

Fuck that twat


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 17:40:59
Good luck with that. He doesn't come across as someone who takes well to criticism or even an opposing point of view, in fact he seems remarkably thin-skinned for all the bluster. e.g. the "media ban" stuff.

Maybe, contrary to all the assumptions that Cooper was just a frontman/cipher and Williams was the real backroom genius, the breakdown in the relationship came because Cooper stood up to Power and said "Look, this isn't working" and Williams was the Power yes man?

....and that is exactly why we will struggle this seaso.
We are in a battle and we need to come out fighting.....and we won't.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 17:44:45
Not sure he was involved in football when he was here even... did a good line in offering out entire stands of away fans, but football naaah

Fans that had been giving him abuse....and had a pop at him for heaven forbid - clearing the ball into touch whilst we were defending

The prick.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 18:20:53
Is Aljofree still involved in football?
A coach in the youth set up at Manchester United I believe. I will be in the minority, however I thought he was a decent defender for most of his time with us.

In regards to the current vacancy, Derry and Ling would be atrocious appointments on the face of things.

I would not be adverse to Wally Downes, that would leave me more confident of a defensive improvement. On another note, I would like to know what Dennis Wise is up to, I would welcome a return for him.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 18:30:10
Felt he was an ok defender for the level BUT clearly demotivated and only after one last pay day.

Still remember he scoffing burgers on the side of the pitch at Hampton and Richmond in a Pre Season friendly while 'injured'.

And, during a league game, while also 'injured' necking beers in the Members Lounge before and after the match.

Not really the best example to be setting when you are one of the seniors pros.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 21:24:53
I had a laugh on the way home last night when some genius suggested to BBC Wilts that Colin Calderwood's appointment would add 2,000 to the gate every week!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 22:41:20
I had a laugh on the way home last night when some genius suggested to BBC Wilts that Colin Calderwood's appointment would add 2,000 to the gate every week!
Why?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 22:47:14
Why?

It was said in a very high pitched voice..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Wednesday, October 21, 2015, 22:51:53
Why?

Because he's Colin Calderwood.  He's not that big time.  Sure he was an extremely important player for us but his managerial record is average and just not that charismatic.   


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 07:52:20
Calderwood may well add 2k per match if he is selected (assuming he applies), the reason my have something to do with attendances at his point of appointment. Seriously there would be some lift off at the start and a bigger increase in traction if he is sucessful. We won't get Calderwood so not to worry.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:02:23
no ex player is going to add anything like 2k.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:44:07
There's only one person that would add substantially to attendances.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:45:28
no ex player is going to add anything like 2k.

Ruddock would certainly add a few K's.. of a sort.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:54:52
Difficult as it is to understand LP sometimes, when he says he's interviewing 4-5 candidates that fit his criteria (one of which is a previous link to the club), does he really mean that ALL candidates have been previously linked to the club?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:58:03
Because he's Colin Calderwood.  He's not that big time.  Sure he was an extremely important player for us but his managerial record is average and just not that charismatic.   

Colin is my second favourite Town player in 50+ years of viewing, but his time for managing us is passed.

I want a managerial virgin.  Could Darren Ward be our Eddie Howe?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DRS on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 08:58:59
Colin is my second favourite Town player in 50+ years of viewing, but his time for managing us is passed.

I want a managerial virgin.  Could Darren Ward be our Eddie Howe?
Let's nip this in the bud. Darren Ward after his comments about the set up when he left is as welcome as sam morshead


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 09:01:59
Kerslake


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 09:04:28
Darren Ward now seems to run a cattery. JFW will be delighted.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 09:07:41
Let's nip this in the bud. Darren Ward after his comments about the set up when he left is as welcome as sam morshead

I bow to your greater knowledge, and will bin the idea.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 09:40:39
I was gonna say you've been banging on about Darren Ward rather a lot Reg!!

I found him a very attractive man and he also liked cats so just on that basis, I'd be willing to give him a try!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 09:42:18
I'm allergic to cats, he's not the man for the job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 10:02:58
I was gonna say you've been banging on about Darren Ward rather a lot Reg!!

I found him a very attractive man and he also liked cats so just on that basis, I'd be willing to give him a try!

I thought Ward, as he's seen the present club from the inside, and seemed to survive with his dignity intact, therefore would be under no illusions as to what to expect.

However, DRS says that the experience quite understandably has put him off...cats are much easier to manage than football clubs.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 10:15:46
I found him a very attractive man and he also liked cats so just on that basis, I'd be willing to give him a try!

Filth.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 10:51:33
Ward fits. From comments about his captaincy and presence in the changing room, you'd imagine he'd be a good man manager and a diplomat - which seems to be about the only role our managers.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 10:53:11
Steve Evans?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 11:05:57
Steve Evans?

I sure its imminent but don't think he has been sacked by Leeds yet?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 11:09:30
I thought Ward, as he's seen the present club from the inside, and seemed to survive with his dignity intact, therefore would be under no illusions as to what to expect.

However, DRS says that the experience quite understandably has put him off...cats are much easier to manage than football clubs.
Should be at home with our present team of pussys, then


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bobby on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:17:10
Martin Rueda


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:19:42
Martin Rueda

Where on earth has that come from? Too obscure to be made up. Are you Swiss Bobby?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Rueda


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:28:08
I've no idea where that's come from, no idea if you've just made it up and no idea if Power is even aware this bloke exists...but that's EXACTLY the sort of name we need.

Not Paul Dickov or Wally Downes, but exotic foreigners who almost certainly aren't coming and would doubtless be a disaster if they came. More please


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:33:48
Where on earth has that come from? Too obscure to be made up. Are you Swiss Bobby?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_Rueda

Swiss tony's brother ?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:42:18
I thought Ward, as he's seen the present club from the inside, and seemed to survive with his dignity intact, therefore would be under no illusions as to what to expect.

However, DRS says that the experience quite understandably has put him off...cats are much easier to manage than football clubs.

I understand that herding cats is quite difficult?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: joteddyred on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 12:55:48
I was gonna say you've been banging on about Darren Ward rather a lot Reg!!

I found him a very attractive man and he also liked cats so just on that basis, I'd be willing to give him a try!

I'm with JFW here.  I'd like to add he's a very pleasant man on top of the above.  Chatted to him a few times when his son was at my children's primary school.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 13:07:06
Sounds like he'd command the respect of the women's team at least


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 13:09:24
Sounds to me like he'd be too busy getting some fun behind the arkells to manage efficiently..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 13:26:51
At least Shaun Derry is out of the running


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 14:00:20
Sounds to me like he'd be too busy getting some fun behind the arkells to manage efficiently..

 :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 15:19:04
Jan Aage Fjortoft. Please. Please. Please.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 15:19:04
I heard Power and Rueda got to know each other when he was manager at Grasshoppers.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 15:30:37
This thread will do:

https://t.co/oJUGhWHURx. To summarise, it sounds to me as though Kasim was saying 'Cooper lost the plot'


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 15:31:47
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Talk about special

https://www.facebook.com/BBCWiltshire/videos/502408649928597/


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 15:49:56
This thread will do:

https://t.co/oJUGhWHURx. To summarise, it sounds to me as though Kasim was saying 'Cooper lost the plot'

Nice to hear him being honest, and actually sounded like he cared. Apparently didn't look like he did when he played on Tuesday though.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 18:05:21
Let's nip this in the bud. Darren Ward after his comments about the set up when he left is as welcome as sam morshead
Wards comments were that Luke Williams was the best coach that he worked for in 20 years playing and that Cooper was the manager by chance.

http://m.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/13316082.Ward_lavishes_praise_on__incredible__Town_number_two_Williams/

So does that rule him out given a candidate has to work with Williams and Cooper has gone?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 19:02:48
This thread will do:

https://t.co/oJUGhWHURx. To summarise, it sounds to me as though Kasim was saying 'Cooper lost the plot'

He wobbles on a lot. Cooper changed things and he/they didn't like it. Time will show whether it was Cooper or sub-standard players that is to blame.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Jamiesfuturewife on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 19:11:43
:Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:

Talk about special

https://www.facebook.com/BBCWiltshire/videos/502408649928597/


I don't even know where to start with that to be honest??!
Simple as the day is long

Do you think the next time the "can't pay? We will take it away" team turn up they could hand over the £1000 in tat to pay off debts??


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 19:26:25
He wobbles on a lot. Cooper changed things and he/they didn't like it. Time will show whether it was Cooper or sub-standard players that is to blame.

Let's hope he approves of the next manager otherwise he will just throw his toys out of the pram again.

Still think it's more of a case of post transfer window blues though


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 19:37:02
Me too.

He was excellent most of last year, and I suppose anything that motivates him us good for us.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 22:27:46
This thread will do:

https://t.co/oJUGhWHURx. To summarise, it sounds to me as though Kasim was saying 'Cooper lost the plot'

That's actually not a bad stint from Yas. Makes it clear there have been problems, without pointing a four foot foam finger.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, October 22, 2015, 22:39:56
Still think it's more of a case of post transfer window blues though

Christ, this sounds like the footballing equivalent of PMT


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:22:54
Cant see it myself, would have to pay compo

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/23/hendon-in-frame-for-swindon-job/


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:25:31
Me, you and Drs would be the ideal dream team.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:29:40
Me, you and Drs would be the ideal dream team.

Amen to that


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:31:45
Hertha can be chief cone collector.

Fb can be barman.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:34:06
Cant see it myself, would have to pay compo

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/23/hendon-in-frame-for-swindon-job/

Sounds a bit of a  "offer 20p for Tom Bradshaw" type story. Is he out of contract at the O's soon and angling for a pay rise/extension?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:38:38
Cant see it myself, would have to pay compo

http://www.hitc.com/en-gb/2015/10/23/hendon-in-frame-for-swindon-job/

Could be a dogfight to see who will be tne 1st Town manager to be named after a bit of London....Hendon or Holloway.

Think Southgate is out the question, and it's not quite the End for Crouch yet....maybe Chris Sutton might appeal to Power, after getting Lincoln down to the Conference.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:53:34
Could be a dogfight to see who will be tne 1st Town manager to be named after a bit of London....Hendon or Holloway.

Think Southgate is out the question, and it's not quite the End for Crouch yet....maybe Chris Sutton might appeal to Power, after getting Lincoln down to the Conference.

I understand that Chelsea Clinton is also up for it?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Friday, October 23, 2015, 16:55:59
I understand that Chelsea Clinton is also up for it?

So was her dad. But that's another story..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Friday, October 23, 2015, 17:04:17
He didnt have sexual relations with that woman


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 23, 2015, 17:12:11
I understand that Chelsea Clinton is also up for it?

Jack Charlton is too old.....Johnny Barnes is too blbad https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRm7j2UL3YY

Neville Southall too fat


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matchworn Shirts on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:15:58
actually I reckon Ian Hendon would be very good, cannot see it happening though


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: BruceChatwin on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:16:34
1 win in 10. Sounds like he'd fit in seamlessly.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:18:30
1 win in 10. Sounds like he'd fit in seamlessly.
But that would be an improvement!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:19:09
But that would be an improvement!

 :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:37:34
1 win in 10. Sounds like he'd fit in seamlessly.

Better than Martin Lings record.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Friday, October 23, 2015, 18:52:38
Gonna be Ling according to ASD.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ginginho on Friday, October 23, 2015, 19:44:44
Where have you heard that? Nothing on his twitter feed.

Not that I don't believe you, and I wouldn't be too disappointed if he gets the job, to be honest.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Friday, October 23, 2015, 20:13:03
Would you be disappointed if he had no connection with stfc before. People seem to think he would do well, but is past record says otherwise.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 23, 2015, 20:36:13
I have it on good authority that Ling will be the man. Might be worth backing the odds you can get!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Baggins on Friday, October 23, 2015, 21:17:47
I have it on good authority that anybody who uses the phrase " I have it on good authority" is a cunt.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 23, 2015, 21:50:05
I have it on good authority that anybody who uses the phrase " I have it on good authority" is a cunt.

Cunt  :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Friday, October 23, 2015, 22:09:30
I have no opinion I just wanted to see a whole page of posts with my name as the last poster.  Shit bucket lists rule benders. Oh calling everyone benders was another


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Friday, October 23, 2015, 22:12:46
I have it on good authority that Ling will be the man. Might be worth backing the odds you can get!!

He's odds on you chump


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Boy About Town on Friday, October 23, 2015, 22:21:30
He's odds on you chump

Thanks for clearing that up  :toocool:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RJack on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 17:49:54
I've also heard that Ling is front runner for the job at the moment.  Was in executive seats today and someone asked Power after the game about the managers position.  He replied if I was a betting man I'd pick the bookies favourite.  May well have been tongue cheek remark or a red herring by Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 17:51:04
Gonna be Ling according to ASD.
It will be Derry then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 18:48:23
Has anybody considered that whoever it is is decided, but that it may do everyone a few favours to wait until we have a near full strength side back for the new manager to hit the ground running?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: singingiiiffy on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 19:36:42
Didn't go today but am I right in hearing vigeroux messed up again? Getting a bit costly at the moment, if Belford isn't could enough I wonder if a replacement should be looked at


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Mother Brown on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 19:48:05
I've also heard that Ling is front runner for the job at the moment.  Was in executive seats today and someone asked Power after the game about the managers position.  He replied if I was a betting man I'd pick the bookies favourite.  May well have been tongue cheek remark or a red herring by Power.
Are they the ones with cushions, near the shitter .


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 19:52:57
Didn't go today but am I right in hearing vigeroux messed up again? Getting a bit costly at the moment, if Belford isn't could enough I wonder if a replacement should be looked at

But how many superb saves as he made...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 19:58:36
Don't think he did make a mistake - was at full stretch for a cross that was poorly defended both before and after he got a touch on it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: REDBUCK on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 20:36:43
I thought he stretched for a cross and his touch took it away from the defenders


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 20:48:22
Don't think he did make a mistake - was at full stretch for a cross that was poorly defended both before and after he got a touch on it.
I agree, it was a cracking cross that caught all of our defence out, although the guy shouldn't have been allowed to get a cross in!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 20:49:14
Why are we discussing today's game in the Next Manager thread? soapy tit wank


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 22:28:06
Fuck your tax breaks Power, get yer booty down to SN1 full time  :toocool:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: crystall Tips on Saturday, October 24, 2015, 22:43:33
Anyone else notice that Wikipedia lists Ian Baraclough's clubs as Swindon Town?  Perhaps L P hacking the site to gauge reaction before going ahead!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Amir on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 02:47:15
Anyone else notice that Wikipedia lists Ian Baraclough's clubs as Swindon Town?  Perhaps L P hacking the site to gauge reaction before going ahead!

Yep, saw that. It's a guilty pleasure of mine to view Ian Baraclough's wiki page of a Saturday night.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 07:48:03
I saw that somebody, a wacky funster, had installed John Carver as Town's manager on wiki.

Oh the larks.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 08:27:34
I've also heard that Ling is front runner for the job at the moment.  Was in executive seats today and someone asked Power after the game about the managers position.  He replied if I was a betting man I'd pick the bookies favourite.  May well have been tongue cheek remark or a red herring by Power.
'Poyettle' is a Patagonian dialect word for a species of South Atlantic herring clupea herengus poyayus. Could Power be landing the biggest red herring in football management appointment history?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 08:27:59
Tim Sherwood's odds have shortened after Villa's latest defeat.

Ling still 4/7


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 11:51:36
Tim Sherwood's odds have shortened after Villa's latest defeat.

Ling still 4/7
Tim sherwood has left villa!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 11:53:30
Be it money or pride, you don't drop down from a shit PL side to a shit L1 team.

No matter who your buddies are.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 12:25:20
Could  be hyped as an 'to the end of the season' appointment.

But you are probably right. Fuck it up here and he'll never get another job.

Charlton, maybe?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 12:44:06
Chelsea, he will think, based on his ego


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 14:00:01
Quote from: Costanza
Be it money or pride, you don't drop down from a shit PL side to a shit L1 team.

No matter who your buddies are.


thank god for that


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 14:49:58
Tim Sherwood in to 2/1 2nd fav behind 10/11 Ling


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 15:03:48
Tim Sherwood in to 2/1 2nd fav behind 10/11 Ling

I'm no punter, how have they got these odds? Is it purely down to volumes of betting? If so, people are silly.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 15:35:50
Money from someone the bookies think may know something or maybe just a speculative punt.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 16:14:52
I can't see it happening, but what would people's thoughts be if it was Sherwood?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 16:16:51
I can't see it happening, but what would people's thoughts be if it was Sherwood?

The national journalists who have been showing solidarity towards their regional brethren would have a brief dilemma before finding themselves in the Swindon Town press box.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 16:21:10
Trouble is, he is a hands-on coach - where would that leave Williams


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 16:36:11
I can't see it happening, but what would people's thoughts be if it was Sherwood?

It kind of fits our ex player not a lot of experience history and I like his passion.

In reality I can't see it happening.


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 16:53:33
Quote
I can't see it happening, but what would people's thoughts be if it was Sherwood?
disaster. only proven as a coach. not what we need, we already have a coach. don't need a 'name' and the media attention he's bring. totally out of our budget.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: blinkpip on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 17:01:00
If Sherwood takes over and keeps us up then it seen as a success to the world. Easy gig to get some credit back.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:30:31
Mackay is a strong favourite for the Charlton job. Happened to be there yesterday in preparation for the sacking.

Really can't see Sherwood coming here. When he was in the Spurs youth set up, fine, but now? I want someone on the way up, who would see this as a great job, not something to tide them over until something better came along.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:39:11
If Sherwood takes over and keeps us up then it seen as a success to the world. Easy gig to get some credit back.

I think you might be overestimating how many people give league 1 any credibility.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: SuperBosnian on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:48:20
You don't drop from the Premier League to League 1, managerial suicide.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: SuperBosnian on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:50:01
Phil Brown was sacked by Hull when they were in the Prem and ended up at then League 2 Southend. Can't think of any similar examples off the top of my head..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:50:16
You don't drop from the Premier League to League 1, managerial suicide.

And certainly not for a side in the relegation zone. If it doesn't work out, then what? Let's move on!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:53:23
Phil Brown was sacked by Hull when they were in the Prem and ended up at then League 2 Southend. Can't think of any similar examples off the top of my head..

...but not within a week.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 18:57:29
I've managed to convince myself that Ling will be a good appointment.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 19:04:50
Well, if his job description is as we think it will be whoever takes over shouldn't make too much difference.

Saying that, of course, something obviously went horribly wrong with the Williams/Cooper/Power triumvirate.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 19:26:03
Tim Sherwood.

For gods sakes some of you need a reality check.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JBZ on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:16:50
I don't have it on any authority but I can say it will never happen.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:17:52
If it really is going to be Martin Ling then there really is no excuse not to have him in place by Wednesday.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:20:10
Tim Sherwood.

For gods sakes some of you need a reality check.

I have it on good authority that this is the best post on this thread in ages and stuff. :toocool:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:28:45
If it really is going to be Martin Ling then there really is no excuse not to have him in place by Wednesday.

If it's Martin Ling I'm throwing my season ticket and pants into reception.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:31:41
...but not within a week.

No self respecting manager rolls up anywhere in a week. They carry on picking up their wages until the contract is settled or runs down and taking another job straight away undermines those negotiations as the old club doesn't have to honour the contract.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:43:09
No self respecting manager rolls up anywhere in a week. They carry on picking up their wages until the contract is settled or runs down and taking another job straight away undermines those negotiations as the old club doesn't have to honour the contract.

You're preaching to the choir.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:46:22
You're preaching to the choir.

Unless you're Steve Evans who rocks up a club he slated a few months before but he doesn't fall into the 'self respecting' manager category


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 20:59:59
Tim Sherwood.

For gods sakes some of you need a reality check.
Yes, we could considerably better than that!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: STFCFORLIFE on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 21:44:08
The guy at Talksport (Moose) well someone he knows, seems to think there might be something in the Sherwood to Swindon link.

Probably bollocks.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 21:51:23
What cos he tweeted it. Ffs get a grip


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, October 25, 2015, 22:19:37
I suppose I can see why fans would want him, but he seems about as likely as Di Canio as being our next yes man.

He also seems a bit of a prick and hasn't exactly shown much skill as a manager, yet. If we were to appoint him I'd guess it'd be once his hype has died down (in a few jobs time) then his worth will be like that of the previous potential greatest manager ever: Appleton.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, October 26, 2015, 07:18:41
Unless you're Steve Evans who rocks up a club he slated a few months before but he doesn't fall into the 'self respecting' manager category

I thought that supposed quote was fake?


Title: Re:
Post by: Benzel on Monday, October 26, 2015, 08:49:00
Not that I'm entertaining the idea of Sherwood in any way but even if he is better as a coach, doesn't that fit our mould anyway? We'd have two coaches who buy into the 'philosophy' only he'd be tasked with picking the team as well.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sippo on Monday, October 26, 2015, 09:02:12
But Power is bezzy mates with Sherwood, so would probably give him free reign.

Maybe he didn't trust Cooper?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Monday, October 26, 2015, 09:34:56
No self respecting manager rolls up anywhere in a week. They carry on picking up their wages until the contract is settled or runs down and taking another job straight away undermines those negotiations as the old club doesn't have to honour the contract.

Exactly that. Gone are the days when a club just says your fired here is £x million pounds of your contract paid up, now fuck off for you to then rock up at another club a few weeks or months later on a similar package. For a similar reason and i have already said this Power will not take on a manager or player already in a job, hence why Hendon has and will not be approached. Going back to Sherwood i would not rule him out rocking up at a training session or two to watch and then giving advice on some things, same as match day in the directors box.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, October 26, 2015, 09:37:27
The guy at Talksport (Moose) well someone he knows, seems to think there might be something in the Sherwood to Swindon link.

Probably bollocks.

He's a prick ignore him.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 26, 2015, 12:11:48
Sherwood in http://www.express.co.uk/sport/football/614546/Aston-Villa-Everton-Man-Utd-David-Moyes-Tim-Sherwood-Swindon

(Apologies for linking that, it may just be that I am in deepest Cumbria with a shit web connection but that website is rubbish and takes an age to load!)

Its obviously not going to happen unless Tim invests some of the c.£2m he got for leaving Villa into the club and becomes part owner with Power - at least he would be guaranteed not to get the sack if he did that!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chrystovski on Monday, October 26, 2015, 12:26:23
Brum mail reporting that Sherwood will receive £2 Million in compo which will reduce if he lands another job within the next 12 months. I fully expect him to be sat on his arse until then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JayBox325 on Monday, October 26, 2015, 12:28:53
Brum mail reporting that Sherwood will receive £2 Million in compo which will reduce if he lands another job within the next 12 months. I fully expect him to be sat on his arse until then.

Yeah, he's out of the running IMO.

We'll just appoint a temporary guy on a short contract until Garreth Barry comes and becomes player/manager in the summer ;).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, October 26, 2015, 12:36:36
Brum mail reporting that Sherwood will receive £2 Million in compo which will reduce if he lands another job within the next 12 months. I fully expect him to be sat on his arse until then.

What if he doesnt get another job but instead becomes part owner of a club that he chooses to manage... the sort of deal Power loves!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chrystovski on Monday, October 26, 2015, 12:45:01
What if he doesnt get another job but instead becomes part owner of a club that he chooses to manage... the sort of deal Power loves!

It's Powers toy, only he is allowed to play with it!!!  ;)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Monday, October 26, 2015, 13:13:39
Poyet on short list for villa job


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 26, 2015, 13:42:50
Andrew Steele-Davis ‏@andrew_FLICW  2m2 minutes ago
Former Bournemouth Youth Coach Ross Embleton is the new bookies favourite for the Swindon Town job. His odds are 6/4 #stfc


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Processed Beats on Monday, October 26, 2015, 13:43:02
Ross Embleton now bookies favourite.

Yeah, no idea either.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 26, 2015, 13:52:26
Who?

Just checked.

Oooo - Bishops Stortford manager. Classy.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 26, 2015, 13:59:33
The randomness makes me think there's something in it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 26, 2015, 14:02:14
The cheapness makes me think there's something in it


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Amir on Monday, October 26, 2015, 14:02:29
He works for Spurs. Has worked with a academies/youth teams in the past, not sure about now.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 26, 2015, 14:04:35
He used to work at Spurs. Got sacked by Muff in 2013.

Now at Bishops Stortford


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, October 26, 2015, 14:04:56
The randomness makes me think there's something in it.

Think I agree. Bit of an odd one, not funny enough for someone to bet on for a laugh, too obscure for a wild punt.

Left Muff in 2013

http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/sport/10271531.Cherries__Youth_coach_Embleton_leaves_Dean_Court/

Hey look, there is a tenuous link with Lingy:

http://www.fccfootballtrials.co.uk/#!staff/cqmv

And, if this is the same guy, which it is, links with Spurs and Naarwich

https://www.linkedin.com/in/rossembleton



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Amir on Monday, October 26, 2015, 14:14:59
He used to work at Spurs. Got sacked by Muff in 2013.

Now at Bishops Stortford

Bloody hell, pops, he's never even heard of Bishop Stortford :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: UncleGary on Monday, October 26, 2015, 16:14:28
Who?

Just checked.

Oooo - Bishops Stortford manager. Classy.


Let's not forget, our last boss had been sacked from AFC Telford six months or so earlier, and he was a Jermaine Beckford away from getting us to the Championship...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: china red on Monday, October 26, 2015, 16:24:31
Embleton and Ling both seem to work for FCC, maybe Ling as manager and Embleton as an additional coach.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, October 26, 2015, 16:50:46
I've no major issues with looking at development minded coaches but Ross Embleton seems so junior level that we might as well give Jeremy Newton a punt.

https://uk.linkedin.com/in/rossembleton


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 26, 2015, 16:55:05
Probably been put out there to make fans breath a sigh of relief when Lingy gets appointed


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Monday, October 26, 2015, 18:17:52
Probably been put out there to make fans breath a sigh of relief when Lingy gets appointed

Fingers crossed that is not the case.  I dont know who i want but i know i dont want Lingy.
However I'm not putting the money in so it's not my call but if it was i wouldnt have Lingy


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, October 26, 2015, 18:38:58
Fingers crossed that is not the case.  I dont know who i want but i know i dont want Lingy.
However I'm not putting the money in so it's not my call but if it was i wouldnt have Lingy

We have been relegated under our last three managers who have been ex players. They're usually put in place for being cheap, in the hope that as ex players they might deflect a bit of the shit kicking around for lack of investment in the playing staff.

They also usually get the gig when facing a relegation struggle....tbf to John Trollope and Jimmy Quinn, they both managed to just about keep us up in their first part season, before bombing the next.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Monday, October 26, 2015, 18:47:07
We have been relegated under our last three managers who have been ex players. They're usually out in place for being cheap, in the hope that as ex players they might deflect a bit of the shit kicking around for lack of investment in the playing staff.

They also usually get the gig when facing a relegation struggle....tbf to John Trollope and Jimmy Quinn, they both managed to just about keep us up in their first part
season, before bombing the next.


As good a player as Lingy was his managerial record doesn't match up to it. I fear the worst if he gets the job surely there is better or there. Even if they are purely there to avoid the drop for one season


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, October 26, 2015, 18:58:22
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/SPORT/13897355.Embleton_laughs_off_Town_link/

Well that puts that to bed then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, October 26, 2015, 19:27:02
Phew!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Monday, October 26, 2015, 23:08:11
50p says whoever it is hasn't been mentioned on here.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 10:59:17
This has gone boringly quiet.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:26:40
That's because whoever it is is unlikely to make much difference. If Cooper was the cause of a little unrest the new man should help but, intrinsically, we are on a path we wont deviate from with Power at the helm.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:35:10
Luke Williams is now 1/6 fav


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:36:50
Luke Williams is now 1/6 fav

Williams as main man with a defence-minded assistant would be quite a good combo I think


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:37:03
Luke Williams is now 1/6 fav

So who will be coach?
Maybe he will just wear a bigger hat.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:37:34
Power has stated no manager is coming in until after Wigan so his first game will be the FA Cup



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 11:51:29
Luke Williams is now 1/6 fav

With the way the odds are wandering around its fairly plain to see the bookies have as little idea as we do!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 13:36:46
Power seemed to hint in his radio interview that he had spoken to 2 of Dickov, Baraclough & Derry

Dickov is a name that has not been thrown around previously


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Super Hans on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 13:49:28
Dickov can fuckov.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 14:23:13
I love word play.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 14:25:07
Is there a realistic managerial candidate (with experience) who can receive universal support from the start? I doubt it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 14:27:02
Given that a seeming majority of Town fans live in cloud cuckoo land, I doubt it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 14:33:43
Is there a realistic managerial candidate (with experience) who can receive universal support from the start? I doubt it.

I suspect that there isn't even an unrealistic target that the fans would agree on - if Power appointed Guardiola I suspect there would be disquiet and fans clearing their merchandise rooms and returning said contents to the club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 16:17:18
This is the Sky Bet list for our Next Permanent Manager; who would your top choice be, and, if different, who do you think is the most realistic? Of course, AN Other is a distinct possibility.

I'll go for:

Gus Poyet
Martin Ling

Luke Williams 1/8
Martin Ling 10/1
Tim Sherwood 12/1
Ross Embleton 20/1
Paul Dickov 22/1
Danny Wilson 22/1
Stuart McCall 25/1
Shaun Derry 25/1
Lee Power 25/1
Kevin Nolan 25/1
Lee Clark 25/1
Gus Poyet 25/1
Ian Holloway 25/1
Ian Baraclough 25/1
Brian McDermott 28/1
Stuart Gray 28/1
Nigel Clough 28/1
Lee Peacock 28/1
Sean O'Driscoll 28/1
Stuart Pearce 28/1
Darrell Clarke 33/1
Les Ferdinand 33/1
Christian Roberts 33/1
Chris Wilder 33/1
Dave Hockaday 33/1
Dave Jones 33/1
Paul Lambert 33/1
Jan Aage Fjortoft 33/1
Phil Parkinson 33/1
Phil Brown 33/1
Gareth Ainsworth 33/1
Derek McInnes 40/1
Paolo Di Canio 40/1
Billy Davies 40/1
Chris Ramsey 50/1


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 16:20:45
I'd go for Luke Williams with Kevin Nolan


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 16:47:58
If I was Lee Power I'd get a mate to put a few grand on and appoint myself.....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 17:09:56
So no sign of white smoke from SN1 then?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 17:20:51
So no sign of white smoke from SN1 then?

What are you saying? Gandalf is in the frame? Magic.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 17:30:36
Just put £15 on Ling at 10/1. That bet alone took his odds down 6/1 so shows how little money needs to be placed.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 17:35:24
What are you saying? Gandalf is in the frame? Magic.

Might shore up our defence

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Mj-IZfqjmpQ/UtGET9V604I/AAAAAAAAel0/k2eJePXNO58/Gandalf%252520says%252520-%252520You%252520shall%252520not%252520pass-8x6%25255B1%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 18:04:21
Williams sounds about right.

Another manager by default and cheap.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 18:27:33
Might shore up our defence

(http://lh3.ggpht.com/-Mj-IZfqjmpQ/UtGET9V604I/AAAAAAAAel0/k2eJePXNO58/Gandalf%252520says%252520-%252520You%252520shall%252520not%252520pass-8x6%25255B1%25255D.jpg?imgmax=800)

Hope we get him in before Saturday, as our defence made Will Grigg look like a Balrog the last time we played against him.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 19:09:26
Hope we get him in before Saturday, as our defence made Will Grigg look like a Balrog the last time we played against him.

Will Grigg is best striker in the league IMO


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 19:47:29
Will Grigg is best striker in the league IMO

Bottled move to the championship though didnt he


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 20:11:37
Just put £15 on Ling at 10/1. That bet alone took his odds down 6/1 so shows how little money needs to be placed.

Name and shame


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 20:31:42
Name and shame
Sorry?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 20:40:50
Just curious as to which bookie would be worried about a £150 liability.

That said, they're all as bad as each other anyway.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Tuesday, October 27, 2015, 21:01:02
Ah I see, it was Sky Bet, mate.


Title: Re:
Post by: Oaksey Moonraker on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 09:13:31
Have Sky Bet got Sheena Easton on the list yet?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 11:35:42
Have Sky Bet got Sheena Easton on the list yet?

Not but given that that are offering prices on Peacock and Roberts, based on nothing but a bit of twitter titting around by the pair, I wouldn't rule out her appearing at some point.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 11:40:15
This pops up every time we await a new manager, but I've never been sure what it's about?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 11:52:15
I think it was Mex that once actually got Sheena Easton listed on bookie's odds.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 11:55:11
And she does work from 9 till 5


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 12:12:11
I think it was Mex that once actually got Sheena Easton listed on bookie's odds.

Ah that would make sense. Random enough for him!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 13:15:26
Ah that would make sense. Random enough for him!

It's a bit like when the TEF discovered that Gok Wan was a thief. When you were there it made sense.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 17:00:46
Shop lifting cunt


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 17:01:44
I think it was Mex that once actually got Sheena Easton listed on bookie's odds.

Surely a job for the Town End Pressure Group to get her back in the odds?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 23:46:19
Sarah Beeny has been done for dealing


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: mexico red on Wednesday, October 28, 2015, 23:48:23
Sheena actually got her Fifa coaching badge. Could be good alongside williams


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 00:02:42
I think it was Mex that once actually got Sheena Easton listed on bookie's odds.

I miss Mex  :(


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 00:03:22
Sheena actually got her Fifa coaching badge. Could be good alongside williams

 :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 00:51:47
I miss Mex  :(

Only by about 40 minutes


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 08:57:32
Amazing that this thread and most of the threads about what is going on at the club have died a death.

The buzz appears to have gone. Snuffed out by Fanzai perhaps?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 09:00:42
Power has stated no manager is coming in until after Wigan so his first game will be the FA Cup


Just putting this here again


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 09:05:32
Quote from: Nomoreheroes
Amazing that this thread and most of the threads about what is going on at the club have died a death.

The buzz appears to have gone. Snuffed out by Fanzai perhaps?


what media ban.

it's been shite since we capitulated at Wembley. no idea what the reason is, the fanzai/media shit doesn't help, but it seems more than that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 09:06:03
Amazing that this thread and most of the threads about what is going on at the club have died a death.

The buzz appears to have gone. Snuffed out by Fanzai perhaps?
There never was a buzz - just a general sniff of interest. Nobody believes the new man will be his own man.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 09:26:49
3 out of the last 4 posts is why the buzz is dying


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:13:37
I respect that Power has said his piece but the lack of media speculation takes away whatever element of fun remains for anyone with a passing interest... and, gosh darnit, I'm bored.

Won't somebody think of me for once?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:17:46
Im thinking of you.  In fact I am now thinking of you as 4/1 joint second favourite for the job.  Behind Sheena Easton and alongside Dean Ashton, Steve Lomas and a Manatee.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:22:14
Fear not, the buzz is alive and well and resting happily in my head here in central Russia. Ready for a blow your socks off announcement from our beloved club.

Or I've got tinnitus  :headhurts:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:28:07
There's nowt stopping the media from speculating. If you need your fix, take it up with them.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:29:13
There's nowt stopping the media from speculating. If you need your fix, take it up with them.

But we don't really have decent club-focused media anymore, so not going to happen.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:34:31
But we don't really have decent club-focused media anymore, so not going to happen.

Indeed.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:48:59
But we don't really have decent club-focused media anymore, so not going to happen.

Did the media do any better than the 125 pages of speculation before Danny Wilson got the job?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=31881.0


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 10:52:23
A change of manager usually heralds something new, fresh and a change of direction.

As we know that no matter who gets the job there will be no change there is very little to get 'buzzing' about.

Now, I'm not saying that is a bad thing - I'll be pleased to see us reverting back to some of last season's sexy football - it's just that any new manager will not be the driver of it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 11:13:38
A change of manager usually heralds something new, fresh and a change of direction.

As we know that no matter who gets the job there will be no change there is very little to get 'buzzing' about.

Now, I'm not saying that is a bad thing - I'll be pleased to see us reverting back to some of last season's sexy football - it's just that any new manager will not be the driver of it.

The new man is going to have to make a big change....winning some matches.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 11:15:36
Players win games


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 11:47:57
Did the media do any better than the 125 pages of speculation before Danny Wilson got the job?

http://thetownend.com/index.php?topic=31881.0

Ah simpler times.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:26:08
There was an impressive prophetic reference to Nile Ranger in there, too!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:28:44
Got a feeling it's going to be Sherwood


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:30:47
Really?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:31:21
Quote from: Simon Pieman
Got a feeling it's going to be Sherwood

sure it's not just trapped wind?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:37:42
Or Dean Ashton


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 12:50:28
* With Dean Ashton as assistant


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Dan the Flan on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 13:42:58
The thought of Sherwood as manager makes my custard wobble


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 14:48:54
The thought of Sherwood as manager makes my custard wobble

And my apple crumble


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 15:05:46
And my apple crumble

And my Eton mess. Wait, that's a trifle over the top.

(plus I really think he'd be a shit appointment).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 15:54:46
* With Dean Ashton as assistant

With Chris Turner


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pax Romana on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 15:58:41
(plus I really think he'd be a shit appointment).


How so?

It's true that

1. He has no experience of managing an impoverished lower division club or lower division players
2. He has a poor track record when he managed at a top club with all the facilities etc. that entails
3. He doesn't need to work financially (always a great motivator to stick at it when things get tough)
4. He would be permanently looking to get back to a top flight club

Apart from that I really can't see what your problem with him is... 


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 16:48:32
I think Sherwood would be great, albeit unlikely - he needs to prove himself in the lower leauges , and where better than a league one club with a tradition of developing young managers, that his best mate just happens to own?

Edit: Although his compo deal with Villa may preclude him taking a job within a certain time frame.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 17:07:50
How so?

It's true that

1. He has no experience of managing an impoverished lower division club or lower division players
2. He has a poor track record when he managed at a top club with all the facilities etc. that entails
3. He doesn't need to work financially (always a great motivator to stick at it when things get tough)
4. He would be permanently looking to get back to a top flight club

Apart from that I really can't see what your problem with him is...  

Simply put I think he's probably a very good coach but a shit manager. Add in that we already have a coach, can't afford a "name" and could do without the undoubted media attention.

Its not a serious consideration for us or him anyway, but its good to speculate.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DRS on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 18:49:53
Just like to point out that despite him being a 'shit' manager a win ratio of 45 percent isn't that shit


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pax Romana on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 18:52:13
Simply put I think he's probably a very good coach but a shit manager. Add in that we already have a coach, can't afford a "name" and could do without the undoubted media attention.

Its not a serious consideration for us or him anyway, but its good to speculate.
You've answered me very seriously.  I was joking.  He would be an awful choice for a club in our position.  Nearest comparison - Roy Evans


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: swindonmaniac on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 19:09:06
Sarah Beeny has been done for dealing
which casino does she work at ??????


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 19:16:01
Just like to point out that despite him being a 'shit' manager a win ratio of 45 percent isn't that shit
I'd also have him ahead of most of the names that have been banded about. With him and Power mates he is the most likely to be allowed to have a bit of autonomy. Considering Ling is many peoples favourite despite having previous mental health issues I don't think Sherwood would be that awful. Also to the more fickle fans he would have somewhat of the 'name' factor. At the end of the day if Sherwood and Power think they can work together and he is the best candidate then so be it. Let's face it most of the other names are pretty dull and uninspiring anyway!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 20:27:53
I'd definitely be ok with Sherwood being the new manager. I may be completely wrong, but I can't recall any of his players criticising his methods or abilities and his results at Spurs were decent. I feel the club and fan base would benefit from a 'high-profile' appointment - it would create a bit of a buzz, which is sorely lacking, and may help to de-zai communications.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 20:44:21
Gonna be Lee clark


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RJack on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 20:52:55
Gonna be Lee clark
He's looking for a new managerial job too

http://www.examiner.co.uk/sport/football/news/lee-clark-want-another-project-10351957


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 20:55:05
Hahaha we've actually got people suggesting Tim Sherwood would be a bad appointment for a bottom of L1 club.

The sooner we hurry up and go out of business the better, it will free up some time for some of you freaks to get your mental health assessed.

Fucking hellfire.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 21:35:56
Using your wide football knowledge, why would he be a good appointment for Swindon?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 21:41:13
You don't need "wide football knowledge" to know that someone who has played and managed at the highest level is going to command respect at L1 level. That's the biggest thing at this level; have a manager who is bigger than the players.

Last one we had of a similar stature was Wise and he practically won the league for us in less than 6 months. Even Sturrock couldn't fuck it up.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 21:42:37
And in case you hadn't noticed we are 3 points off bottom. It's not far from the truth to say he literally couldn't do any worse.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 22:01:58
Hahaha we've actually got people suggesting Tim Sherwood would be a bad appointment for a bottom of L1 club.

The sooner we hurry up and go out of business the better, it will free up some time for some of you freaks to get your mental health assessed.

Fucking hellfire.
Seems fair.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: RedRag on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 22:12:42
The new man is going to have to make a big change....winning some matches.

Harsh.

Losing 2 or 3 nil in the FA Cup First round would be a real step in the right direction.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 22:18:20
Gonna be Lee clark

Wouldn't be unhappy at that, and looking at the other posts here as I hadn't logged in I actually for the first time ever agree with DMR


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 22:24:34
Chomp chomp DMR


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Thursday, October 29, 2015, 23:06:14
If DMR thinking it's a good idea isn't proof that it isn't, I don't know what is.

And I still think he should have done better at both spurs and villa.

id take him over ling though.


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Friday, October 30, 2015, 09:25:44
Sherwood will not be our manager this season. I doubt somewhat that he will be willing to stoop to our level.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Friday, October 30, 2015, 11:03:35
Sounds like power has picked who he wants, expect an announcement Monday or Tuesday........


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Friday, October 30, 2015, 12:20:31


Last one we had of a similar stature was Wise and he practically won the league for us in less than 6 months. Even Sturrock couldn't fuck it up.

Yes because Sturrock has a terrible record for getting teams promoted...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Friday, October 30, 2015, 12:31:00
Sounds like power has picked who he wants, expect an announcement Monday or Tuesday........
Where've you seen this??


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Friday, October 30, 2015, 12:32:29
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/power-toughest-away-fixture-2772969.aspx


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, October 30, 2015, 12:44:38
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/power-toughest-away-fixture-2772969.aspx

It's been very quiet on the naming front as to who has been spotted in around the ground. Normally someone will have seen or heard something but this appointment seems very cloak and dagger. Who are the latest favourites with the bookies?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 30, 2015, 12:47:15
It's been very quiet on the naming front as to who has been spotted in around the ground. Normally someone will have seen or heard something but this appointment seems very cloak and dagger. Who are the latest favourites with the bookies?

I saw SSP yesterday reasonably near to the CG... :sherlock:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Simon Pieman on Friday, October 30, 2015, 13:22:57
Spotted Tim outside the County ground earlier. He was in good spirits

(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/B87s1EnCUAEdjqp.jpg)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Friday, October 30, 2015, 13:29:44
Saw this fella making his way to the CG

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag351/rickrose1204/Mobile%20Uploads/6974149568_3bd3b2a9ac_m_zpsqikfmuxe.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/rickrose1204/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6974149568_3bd3b2a9ac_m_zpsqikfmuxe.jpg.html)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: skiptotheLouMacari on Friday, October 30, 2015, 13:47:53
Saw this fella making his way to the CG

(http://i1372.photobucket.com/albums/ag351/rickrose1204/Mobile%20Uploads/6974149568_3bd3b2a9ac_m_zpsqikfmuxe.jpg) (http://s1372.photobucket.com/user/rickrose1204/media/Mobile%20Uploads/6974149568_3bd3b2a9ac_m_zpsqikfmuxe.jpg.html)

Nice one that's the fella who i was informed was first choice. Best go and slap some dollar on that then


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Friday, October 30, 2015, 13:48:57
Noddy Holder?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Friday, October 30, 2015, 14:40:49
Quote from: Ells
Noddy Holder?
no. can't be. because it's not chriiiiiiiiiiiiistmaaaaas


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Posh Red on Friday, October 30, 2015, 14:41:54
no. can't be. because it's not chriiiiiiiiiiiiistmaaaaas

Don't forget, a Noddy is for Life, not just for Christmas


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Friday, October 30, 2015, 14:44:34
(Russell) Slade?  :sherlock:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, October 30, 2015, 16:36:40
I saw SSP yesterday reasonably near to the CG... :sherlock:

SSP was there for BBCWilts covering the FFIT course


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Friday, October 30, 2015, 16:57:48
SSP was there for BBCWilts covering the FFIT course

A happy coincidence  ;)

SSP will fit into the triumvirate...Power will now do recruitment and team picking, Williams coaching and SSP, man management, motivation and media.   The latter will work out well, as he'll be able to interview himself post games.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Uncletrunx on Friday, October 30, 2015, 17:09:42
Poyet confirmed as AEK Athens manager.

Won't be him coming here then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: @mwooly63 on Friday, October 30, 2015, 18:14:49
A happy coincidence  ;)

SSP will fit into the triumvirate...Power will now do recruitment and team picking, Williams coaching and SSP, man management, motivation and media.   The latter will work out well, as he'll be able to interview himself post games.

He did a q&a and said although he had has B ( ? ) coaching license wasn't interested in that side of things. He did say he offered Cooper an hour of game time as a sub  :Ride On Fatbury's Lovestick:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: reeves4england on Friday, October 30, 2015, 18:35:53
Drove past the team bus as it was on its way up to Wigan today. Couldn't see in through the windows.

You're welcome.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Friday, October 30, 2015, 19:37:31
Was that an attempted joke about window lickers?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chubbs on Friday, October 30, 2015, 19:55:53
Evans will be sacked by leeds before long...


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Only Me on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 09:22:31
Don't forget, a Noddy is for Life, not just for Christmas
Hope not


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 09:24:01
Poyet confirmed as AEK Athens manager.

Won't be him coming here then.

Can't believe he turned down us for those minnows.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:27:20
Seeing as the bookies list is no longer up the answer is

Luke Williams Manager with Embleton as Coach

Both on the coach up to Wigan yeseterday


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:29:01
Seeing as the bookies list is no longer up the answer is

Luke Williams Manager with Embleton as Coach

Both on the coach up to Wigan yeseterday

Really? Maybe the other bloke has been helping out with training for the week - a lot for one man to handle?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:34:18
Nope. That's how it's going to be


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:35:39
Nope. That's how it's going to be

And how are you privy to this information?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:36:29
Just take it as gospel.

Come Monday, or whenever, if it isn't true call me a cunt.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:37:09
Seeing as the bookies list is no longer up the answer is

Luke Williams Manager with Embleton as Coach

Both on the coach up to Wigan yeseterday

Nope. That's how it's going to be

Quoted for posterity.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:37:46
Fine by me!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:44:12
Just take it as gospel.

Come Monday, or whenever, if it isn't true call me a cunt.

This would make sense....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 11:53:14
If that's the case, I'd be happier than I would be with Ling. I'd rather gamble on a young pair.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 12:04:36
I'd rather gamble on a young pair.

  :)  indeed.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 12:05:21
I just managed to get 7/2 on Williams, so I hope you're right Audrey!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: BruceChatwin on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 12:29:01
Quoted for posterity.

Worth bumping this one up as well.

I have it on good authority that Ling will be the man. Might be worth backing the odds you can get!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 12:34:53
Sadly I think Tor Ole Skullerud is out of the running now.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 13:47:12
I just managed to get 7/2 on Williams, so I hope you're right Audrey!
I had to troll through loads of bookies sites to find a market.

Had £50 at 7/2 with BetVictor - wouldn't let me have more.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ibelieveinmrreeves on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 13:51:33
I had to troll through loads of bookies sites to find a market.

Had £50 at 7/2 with BetVictor - wouldn't let me have more.

Freudian slip?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 13:57:35
I trust implicitly the fella that told me this morning


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bob's Orange on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 14:19:55
Mourinho could be available soon.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Saturday, October 31, 2015, 15:11:15
Ross embleton in attendance again today....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 14:31:14
Ross embleton in attendance again today....

Power confirmed after the game he is looking to get Ebleton in as a coach so I cant see us recruiting another coach due to Powers budgets so surely it points to Luke Williams as either manager or head coach however they want to term it, but then he says they have to tie up a few things with the new manager so mon or tues for the announcement, and if it was Williams why not come out and just announce it ?

Power has certainly managed to keep it quiet.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: newmarket red on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 15:01:44
I hope it's someone else and not williams I really do.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matt71 on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 15:11:48
Lee Power spoke with some swindon fans after the game,said new manager was not Williams and not Sherwood.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Matt71 on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 15:13:13
Also said that they want embleton in as an extra coach.


Title: Re:
Post by: Honkytonk on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 15:14:57
I'm still waiting for the phone call. The football manager save games I sent in speak for themselves. Lee, do the right thing.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 16:11:47
Lee Power spoke with some swindon fans after the game,said new manager was not Williams and not Sherwood.

Ling it is then


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 16:16:25
Sounds like it


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: The Grim Reaper on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 17:08:32
Uwe Rosler


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 17:14:12
Dave Byrne


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 17:14:41
Lee Power spoke with some swindon fans after the game,said new manager was not Williams and not Sherwood.

Or he's bluffing and Williams will be announced on Tuesday.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 17:15:26
He doesn't seem to do bluffs though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 18:02:24
Also said that they want embleton in as an extra coach.

An extra big forward might be a better idea.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: newmarket red on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 18:10:30
Ling it is then

And what's lings track record as a manager then did kind of ok at orient and not so much at Torquay but surely it can't be him.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 18:47:15
I don't think it is Ling. Again, Power mentioned on Saturday that we play 'Irish football'. I've never heard anyone say that once before let alone twice. So, I recon its the ex-Sligo and Motherwell fellow.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Barry Scott on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:04:54
Or he's bluffing and Williams will be announced on Tuesday.

Audrey hopes so. Didn't he say he'd have a penis amputation or something if he wasn't our manager?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:06:42
I haven't got a clue who Power will appoint.

That's my analysis of the situation.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:10:16
I haven't got a clue who Power will appoint.

That's my analysis of the situation.

Quoted for posterity.

Are you the next Chang, or something?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:10:44
Audrey hopes so. Didn't he say he'd have a penis amputation or something if he wasn't our manager?

Yeah he's a bit rash like that, hitler tache, shaved balls etc etc. He's gonna be a catch for someone one day.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:16:41
Quoted for posterity.

Are you the next Chang, or something?

I can't disclose my sources, you know that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:25:51
Got a feeling Power would get a kick out of it being someone nobody has mentioned...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: The Million Pound Man on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:42:50
I don't think it is Ling. Again, Power mentioned on Saturday that we play 'Irish football'. I've never heard anyone say that once before let alone twice. So, I recon its the ex-Sligo and Motherwell fellow.

I think its 'high risk' in cockney.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 21:44:03
I think its 'high risk' in cockney.
Ahh! That make sense. (I feel a bit foolish now)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 22:29:57
He doesn't seem to do bluffs though.

That's why Ajose was never coming.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Sunday, November 1, 2015, 23:33:24
That's why Ajose was never coming.

His girlfriend is really sore


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 2, 2015, 09:48:21
Here's my completely made up and incorrect theory - the new manager will be Scott Lindsey, hence the employment of Embleton to replace him as u18 manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:04:48
not expecting a name, but that may be one step beyond in the other direction. madness.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:10:59
not expecting a name, but that may be one step beyond in the other direction. madness.

Yeah.....welcome to the house of fun....STFC


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:27:11
Richard money


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chrystovski on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:28:55
I'm now sold on the idea of Ling but have a feeling it will be LW.

I'd be a little uninspired if that is the case 1 point in 3 doesn't make great reading although we do seem closer to a win now then we did after Millwall.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: A Gent Orange on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:40:59
Here's my completely made up and incorrect theory - the new manager will be Scott Lindsey, hence the employment of Embleton to replace him as u18 manager.

I came up with the same completely made up and incorrect theory the other day. That's probably enough for the bookies to change their odds.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Monday, November 2, 2015, 10:57:05
There's an ad for the STFC managers job on gum tree?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:01:07
For the job or where we are?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:02:28
There's an ad for the STFC managers job on gum tree?
Are you the same guy who used to play fuck on the Adver comments section?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:30:31
Are you the same guy who used to play fuck on the Adver comments section?
Yes it is me, I've been following the town and all your comments but the way the clubs been run into the ground rather finished me off. When black sold MR to Bummouth for peanuts,I gave up on the club,its been down hill since then. We looked set for the drop this season (hope I'm wrong) and the one after that, which would explain the interest in the highworth training ground.The club could use the Marine ground for home games and still be in profit of some sort as a non league club. I know I'm sounding a right old misery but there's no money and anyone who gets the job will be a cheap option, with little or no experience of keeping a club up. I did feel sorry for Cooperman (no he wasn't my choice of manager)
but he took the job because no one else wanted it, I can't see that process changing this time around.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:34:14
Yes it is me, I've been following the town and all your comments but the way the clubs been run into the ground rather finished me off. When black sold MR to Bummouth for peanuts,I gave up on the club,its been down hill since then. We looked set for the drop this season (hope I'm wrong) and the one after that, which would explain the interest in the highworth training ground.The club could use the Marine ground for home games and still be in profit of some sort as a non league club. I know I'm sounding a right old misery but there's no money and anyone who gets the job will be a cheap option, with little or no experience of keeping a club up. I did feel sorry for Cooperman (no he wasn't my choice of manager)
but he took the job because no one else wanted it, I can't see that process changing this time around.

Yep downhill... Since we sold Ritchie..

6th
8th
4th (including the play off final we don't like to talk about)

Alright yeah, this year is a bit shit I'll give you that, but you literally could not be more wrong. Cheap option Cooper also gave us our highest finish in 15 years. Are you just naturally a fuckwit or is it something you've spent years practicing?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:46:00
Red Ken.

(http://i.imgur.com/TC9piaB.jpg)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 11:56:19
Yes it is me, I've been following the town and all your comments but the way the clubs been run into the ground rather finished me off. When black sold MR to Bummouth for peanuts,I gave up on the club,its been down hill since then. We looked set for the drop this season (hope I'm wrong) and the one after that, which would explain the interest in the highworth training ground.The club could use the Marine ground for home games and still be in profit of some sort as a non league club. I know I'm sounding a right old misery but there's no money and anyone who gets the job will be a cheap option, with little or no experience of keeping a club up. I did feel sorry for Cooperman (no he wasn't my choice of manager)
but he took the job because no one else wanted it, I can't see that process changing this time around.

When you start to fall, sometimes it can have its own momentum, look at Yeovil; held up as an example by some a couple of seasons back, in fact the Ritchie season, as an example of something we could do....namely get into the Championship, with a small budget and loan players, now seemingly heading back to the Conference.  Just as starkly, look at Tranmere, flying high in Div 3, that same season when they visited us in December, got a thorough pasting, and are now half way up the Conference, on Saturday they lost to Dover Athletic.  I daresay some Tranny fans are looking at Stockport, and hoping to avoid a similar fate.

Not really sure what has happened at any of those three clubs....Venkman could probably have filled us in about the Glovers, if he'd still been about.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: REDBUCK on Monday, November 2, 2015, 12:23:53
Oh goody, Reg has an friend


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Monday, November 2, 2015, 12:39:42
I'm sure when Powers is ready to announce it he will announce it on Fanzai first and then nobody will know until the new guy is spotted in the dugout the weekend


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 12:41:40
groovy baby


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Monday, November 2, 2015, 12:44:44
Yep downhill... Since we sold Ritchie..

6th
8th
4th (including the play off final we don't like to talk about)

Alright yeah, this year is a bit shit I'll give you that, but you literally could not be more wrong. Cheap option Cooper also gave us our highest finish in 15 years. Are you just naturally a fuckwit or is it something you've spent years practicing?
6th when we threw away automatic promotion?
8th Didn't even make the playoffs.
4th on a poor run of form and were well fucked over at Wembley.
And where are we now? I like your idea of being a successful club
As regards being a Fuckwit, well it doesn't come naturally, I work hard at it!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 12:54:25
So the only thing that matters is promotion?  There are 92 clubs in the professional ranks, chances are most of the time most clubs will be disappointed for some reason.  If 6th, 8th, 4th finishes in successive seasons is reason to be pissed off then God help us.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:00:05
Fuck me, this cunt makes Reg look chirpy.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:08:04
So the only thing that matters is promotion?  There are 92 clubs in the professional ranks, chances are most of the time most clubs will be disappointed for some reason.  If 6th, 8th, 4th finishes in successive seasons is reason to be pissed off then God help us.
We are currently heading what way? with the size of the town and looking at clubs that have had a few seasons above league 1 is 6th 8th & 4th so good? We've strenghtend the clubs around us with our cheap selling and have let a championship side of players leave the club for peanuts. Yeah I know we got a few quid from QPR but where did that go? We don't have a signed up first team squad, just cheap option kids and loans. Its no good harping on about previous seasons when the best we can hope for now is to avoid the drop (which is going to be a massive task to achieve) Do you think we'll be getting a big name manager to save us? Because if we do I'll be amazed and I will happily nosh my own cock off as a humble pie exercise.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:09:29
This shit needs gifs.....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:10:18
You've ruined any argument by the old where has the money gone bit. Usual ill informed ramblings that keep popping up on here. Lets hope we win a few so the tards go back to sleepy byes.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:12:17
I'm sure when Powers is ready to announce it he will announce it on Fanzai first and then nobody will know until the new guy is spotted in the dugout the weekend

According to fanzai the wigan game is still 0-0 and gladwin has just shot over. Not been updated since!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:13:21
He complains that we sell players for peanuts, and then asks where the money's gone.

Special.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:20:46
Fuck me, this cunt makes Reg look chirpy.

I assume that the user name 'Sir Red Albert' was already taken


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:21:13
We are currently heading what way? with the size of the town and looking at clubs that have had a few seasons above league 1 is 6th 8th & 4th so good? We've strenghtend the clubs around us with our cheap selling and have let a championship side of players leave the club for peanuts. Yeah I know we got a few quid from QPR but where did that go? We don't have a signed up first team squad, just cheap option kids and loans. Its no good harping on about previous seasons when the best we can hope for now is to avoid the drop (which is going to be a massive task to achieve) Do you think we'll be getting a big name manager to save us? Because if we do I'll be amazed and I will happily nosh my own cock off as a humble pie exercise.

Well for a start the money has mostly gone towards that training center you seem to be worried about...

The best we can hope for is not avoiding relegation, we're not in a position that represents our first team qualities, we'll be away from relegation soon enough, I'm very confident of that.  As for past seasons, I only replied to your comments about them which have been anything but 'downhill'.  

Last season we were made up of cheap option kids and loans but were 90 mins away from promotion.  Had Wes Thomas not gotten injured you'd not have been moaning about the manner in which we secured his services, he'd have scored 7 or 8 goals by now other injuries permitting and we'd be nowhere near 23rd position.

The size of town makes little difference and since Power has been at the club we haven't sold anyone on the cheap at all.

Getting a big name manager isn't on our agenda at all and it shouldn't be with our setup so you'll have to save your humble pie for when small name manager helps us to a mid-table finish.  Yes, a mid-table finish this season would be a success given our current position and we can look at moving forward again next season.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:21:56
According to fanzai the wigan game is still 0-0 and gladwin has just shot over. Not been updated since!

I'll take that!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, November 2, 2015, 13:49:40
We are currently heading what way? with the size of the town and looking at clubs that have had a few seasons above league 1 is 6th 8th & 4th so good? We've strenghtend the clubs around us with our cheap selling and have let a championship side of players leave the club for peanuts. Yeah I know we got a few quid from QPR but where did that go? We don't have a signed up first team squad, just cheap option kids and loans. Its no good harping on about previous seasons when the best we can hope for now is to avoid the drop (which is going to be a massive task to achieve) Do you think we'll be getting a big name manager to save us? Because if we do I'll be amazed and I will happily nosh my own cock off as a humble pie exercise.
(http://i.imgur.com/EgyNbLq.gif)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:16:34
In fairness all we can say in any certainty is "so far so good", well not this season obviously, but in general. Power could be anywhere between best thing and worst thing for this club.

We don't need a big name manager. From what has been said by Power in the phone in(s) it would be a waste anyway and probably a recipe for disaster when the inevitable showdown over control of the team comes about  - can't see a "big name" being happy to 'yes' it out.  Can't see us changing out model.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:33:41
Has this been pointed out before.....

http://www.fccfootballtrials.co.uk/#!staff/cqmv

Ling and Embleton work together...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:38:20
Has this been pointed out before.....

http://www.fccfootballtrials.co.uk/#!staff/cqmv

Ling and Embleton work together...

Cliff has got mental hair!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: steveg on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:40:43
Q...   Who was Sherwoods no 2 whilst at Villa? Just adding everything up and trying to make 10?!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:41:38
Ling as manager, Williams as attacking coach, Embleton as defensive coach. Doesn't actually sound too bad


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:52:34
Q...   Who was Sherwoods no 2 whilst at Villa? Just adding everything up and trying to make 10?!

Kevin mcdonald


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:53:31
Q...   Who was Sherwoods no 2 whilst at Villa? Just adding everything up and trying to make 10?!

It was Kevin MacDonald I believe, already been there and done that!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Monday, November 2, 2015, 14:58:27
He complains that we sell players for peanuts, and then asks where the money's gone.

Special.
Fuck the money, I want to know where the peanuts have gone


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:12:12
This forum must be the only information exchange on the planet that actually gets stupider the more users join.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:14:33
Press conference tomorrow at 10 AM. I wonder what it could be about?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:14:42
Presser at 10am tomorrow


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:15:20
If its anything like fanzai it'll be discussing our valiant performance against man united in 1994.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:23:16
If its anything like fanzai it'll be discussing our valiant performance against man united in 1994.
:clap: :clap:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bathford on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:50:52
Press conference tomorrow at 10 AM. I wonder what it could be about?

Is it Friday tomorrow?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 15:52:05
Is it Friday tomorrow?


Yes.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Benzel on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:03:52
Yes it is me, I've been following the town and all your comments but the way the clubs been run into the ground rather finished me off. When black sold MR to Bummouth for peanuts,I gave up on the club,its been down hill since then. We looked set for the drop this season (hope I'm wrong) and the one after that, which would explain the interest in the highworth training ground.The club could use the Marine ground for home games and still be in profit of some sort as a non league club. I know I'm sounding a right old misery but there's no money and anyone who gets the job will be a cheap option, with little or no experience of keeping a club up. I did feel sorry for Cooperman (no he wasn't my choice of manager)
but he took the job because no one else wanted it, I can't see that process changing this time around.
I can't breathe.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:07:43
Fuck me, this cunt makes Reg look chirpy.

I'm perfectly chirpy thanks.....you shouldn't confuse people having an opinion which doesn't agree with yours as somehow a negative...it's exactly that an opinion. However, if it seems an ill founded opinion, then by all means present the case to argue against it.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:12:24
Adver not been invited then


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:25:46
Presser at 10am tomorrow
Fuck me, Tans you are slipping - FH beat you to it by bout 12 seconds!!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:28:40
I'm perfectly chirpy thanks.....you shouldn't confuse people having an opinion which doesn't agree with yours as somehow a negative...it's exactly that an opinion. However, if it seems an ill founded opinion, then by all means present the case to argue against it.



Taking note of that tone, shouldn't that rear that you are perfectly chippy  :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:30:28
Adver not been invited then
I think somethings gone on there.....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 16:48:33
Tansmedia got an invite though


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:06:44
ASD has gone from relatively coy on it being Ling to being virtually nailed on. Morshead refers to it as the unvei-Ling (that'll be the Adver's line then...).

This thread will be interesting this time tomorrow - a combination of 'meh' and disappointment I should think.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:10:02
ASD has gone from relatively coy on it being Ling to being virtually nailed on. Morshead refers to it as the unvei-Ling (that'll be the Adver's line then...).

This thread will be interesting this time tomorrow - a combination of 'meh' and disappointment I should think.
More disappointment I'd say :cry:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:24:08
Be more inclined to be optimistic if Emblem is a defensive specialist. Something badly needed for quite a while now.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:26:59
Be more inclined to be optimistic if Emblem is a defensive specialist. Something badly needed for quite a while now.

Agree, the figurehead at the top of our system isn't particularly key, but Ling would do me. A defensive coach would be a real bonus though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:27:18
Be more inclined to be optimistic if Emblem is a defensive specialist. Something badly needed for quite a while now.

Agreed. Despite my reservations, I'm 100% behind him if he is appointed - very tough task ahead and they'll be no bedding in period.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:35:56
Ling's record isn't actually that bad though is it? I'm relatively optimistic, especially with another coach coming in to.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:36:29
Be more inclined to be optimistic if Emblem is a defensive specialist. Something badly needed for quite a while now.

Defensive specialist sounds like bollocks to me....remember hearing about how George Graham coached the famous 1-0 to The Arsenal sides.  He tied a rope between Dixon, Bould, Adams and Winterburn, so they couldn't stray too far from each other in training...a lesson which they carried onto the pitch, along with the arm up lino appeal.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: THE FLASH on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:53:05
Dicky Dosh gets the bullet....everybody wanted him here once!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:53:42
Ling's record isn't actually that bad though is it? I'm relatively optimistic, especially with another coach coming in to.

Considering resources and what he had to work with relative to the division he was in, it seems he actually has a very good record but many wont look further than his win % (Which is not bad in itself).

From what I can gather his signings seem to be a negative, but even that is more or less taken out of his hands with our set-up. He could be perfect for us.

Let's hope so.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 18:53:57
Ling's record isn't actually that bad though is it? I'm relatively optimistic, especially with another coach coming in to.

Nothing to write home about...lost more than he won at Orient, and in the Confernce with Cambridge. won 37 and lost 37 at Torquay.

In his favour, is that he is a genuine disciple of St Glenn and so will be fully commited to the sort of kamikaze football that Power wants....also he'll probably be quite happy to accept the shared role of the STFC job spec.

Let's hope he can keep us up....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:01:24
FWIW A couple of Orient fans on Twitter were singing his praises and saying he'll be excellent for us. Let's face it ours is a pretty unique job spec at the moment, he's probably one of a very few experienced managers who would be willing to work in it, the alternative would be a untried younger manager - Not something I'd be opposed to in principle BUT given the sticky situation we are in, I'd rather someone with with a bit of previous in the job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:08:43
You can guarantee more George Moncur rumours in January as well if Ling gets the job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:11:32
Statistically, Lingy's stats (approx)

35% win average = 33 points , 11 won games (rounded up)
30% draw average of remaining games 19 games = 6 points (rounded down)
33 + 6 + 13 = .....Reg. Reg...

Stats aside, doesn't feel like the right appointment to me. But hey, neither did Cooper.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: TheDukeOfBanbury on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:12:19
You can guarantee more George Moncur rumours in January as well if Ling gets the job.

Bring him home.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:19:24
Historical managerial stats don't tell the whole story as most of them are ruined by the dreaded spell that lost them their jobs, who they are competing with, what the budgets were etc.

Apart of the world class coaches, these stats often fail to highlight the positive achievements, like Orient's promotion, like Torquay's Play-Off finish during our League 2 winning season (including a win over Town on Boxing Day).

Mark Cooper's managerial stats were largely lousy where it 'mattered', he did okay here under restricted managerial circumstances.

Ling, like any other potential manager, has my support. It's largely irrelevant but he's got it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:21:35
I'd be happier with Ling than Williams/Embleton... the bare minimum we need is someone with a bit of managerial experience


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:23:57
He actually did quite poorly at Cambridge.

But, again, did he do a shit job with good resources, or a good job with shit resources? Maybe somebody else can go digging for that information of they are bothered enough.

Whatever. We could appoint Malpas as manager with Paul Hart as assistant and I'd still get behind them. For a while, at least.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:24:02
I'd be happier with Ling than Williams/Embleton... the bare minimum we need is someone with a bit of managerial experience

It'll be all three but and for what it's worth, so would I.

Although having a manager and an assistant with a combined total of zero senior football appearances surely would have been a potential first?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:27:29
He actually did quite poorly at Cambridge.

But, again, did he do a shit job with good resources, or a good job with shit resources? Maybe somebody else can go digging for that information of they are bothered enough.

Whatever. We could appoint Malpas as manager with Paul Hart as assistant and I'd still get behind them. For a while, at least.



There were certainly ownership issues throughout his Cambridge United tenures. Reassuringly he got the fuck out of Cambridge (briefly) when working under George Rolls who had something of an appalling reputation within Non-League football at that point (backing myself up with this http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18450000). When Rolls left, Ling returned.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:29:50
 Ultimately this season, it's the recruitment dept that has fucked up, chuck in the injuries and there you have it....with a better squad, Cooper would have kept us up.

 Maybe Lingy will have a few ideas to chuck at Power for January......Billy Bodin it is then  :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:35:36
Historical managerial stats don't tell the whole story as most of them are ruined by the dreaded spell that lost them their jobs, who they are competing with, what the budgets were etc.

Apart of the world class coaches, these stats often fail to highlight the positive achievements, like Orient's promotion, like Torquay's Play-Off finish during our League 2 winning season (including a win over Town on Boxing Day).

Mark Cooper's managerial stats were largely lousy where it 'mattered', he did okay here under restricted managerial circumstances.

Ling, like any other potential manager, has my support. It's largely irrelevant but he's got it.

Great post, sums up my thoughts really.

Primarily the bit in bold.. Some managers work out well at clubs, others are disastrous. I really don't get this whole desire to treat football like its a statistically predictable entity. If it was it'd be fucking boring.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:36:24
Ultimately this season, it's the recruitment dept that has fucked up, chuck in the injuries and there you have it....with a better squad, Cooper would have kept us up.

 Maybe Lingy will have a few ideas to chuck at Power for January......Billy Bodin it is then  :)

Bring in Billy Bodin, George Moncur, Sam Ling and get Markus Fjortoft out of the American collegiate and we've got ourselves the start of a 1991-1994 regeneration side!

Sadly, Joe White didn't make the grade in pro-football.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:38:53
Bring in Billy Bodin, George Moncur, Sam Ling and get Markus Fjortoft out of the American collegiate and we've got ourselves the start of a 1991-1994 regeneration side!

Sadly, Joe White didn't make the grade in pro-football.

Wasn't there a Nijholt junior kicking around somewhere?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:40:08
Bring in Billy Bodin, George Moncur, Sam Ling and get Markus Fjortoft out of the American collegiate and we've got ourselves the start of a 1991-1994 regeneration side!

Sadly, Joe White didn't make the grade in pro-football.

I went to school with Shaun Taylor's son. Don't remember him liking football though.

His brother was wasn't he?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:41:12
Wasn't there a Nijholt junior kicking around somewhere?

Off course, Gianluca Nijholt.

Great name.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:46:40
I went to school with Shaun Taylor's son. Don't remember him liking football though.

His brother was wasn't he?

Yes. Craig Taylor. He actually played for us.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:48:25
Yes. Craig Taylor. He actually played for us.

I thought so! I think I was about 5 at the time though. Didn't he get a nasty injury?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:51:41
Great post, sums up my thoughts really.

Primarily the bit in bold.. Some managers work out well at clubs, others are disastrous. I really don't get this whole desire to treat football like its a statistically predictable entity. If it was it'd be fucking boring.



Same as. Managerial win/loss are unbelievably pointless without the context


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:53:11
I thought so! I think I was about 5 at the time though. Didn't he get a nasty injury?

I don't remember. I do remember many thinking he was going to be great because his brother was the mighty OST. It didn't work out that way, of course.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 19:57:21
Biggest memory of Craig Taylor was his handball on the line at home to Ipswich inside the first ten minutes.  Red card, pen scored plus another five other goals.  One of my lowest moments as a Town fan that match.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:00:02
Craig Taylor didn't wear a gumshield or wear his shorts needlessly high.

Just who the hell did he think he was?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:01:11
I may have invented that injury then.

Sorry Craig, if you're reading.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Iffy's Onion Bhaji on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:13:14
Happy enough with Ling given the realistic optiond we had. His record is alright but nothing amazing. Did a good job at Torquay. It went pair shaped after he got depression. Not really his fault that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:17:16
Biggest memory of Craig Taylor was his handball on the line at home to Ipswich inside the first ten minutes.  Red card, pen scored plus another five other goals.  One of my lowest moments as a Town fan that match.

Didn't he lash a 35 yarder in at the start of his spell with us? Or am I thinking of someone else?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:19:33
Biggest memory of Craig Taylor was his handball on the line at home to Ipswich inside the first ten minutes.  Red card, pen scored plus another five other goals.  One of my lowest moments as a Town fan that match.

Live on tv too wasnt it?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:19:56
Didn't he lash a 35 yarder in at the start of his spell with us? Or am I thinking of someone else?

Yep, port vale


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:21:31
Marlon Brooms?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:23:05
Marlon Brooms?

Scored a blinder against Birmingham


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:24:36
Then Taylor's has completely escaped me I think.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:26:28
I posted about Broomes and then deleted it thinking I got it wrong. I wish I kept it up there now.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:27:16
So is Ling pretty much confirmed then? The posts today would suggest yes, but I've seen nothing concrete?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: dogs on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:27:44
Live on tv too wasnt it?

Think that was the 4 1 win defeat the season after. I remember going up to the commentary area in the DR and Alan Brazil was there commentating for Sky. Me and my mates spoke to him for a bit until one of my more monger mates asked him "are you the bloke off the bbc" even though he was clad out in sky gear and relatively well known for his football league commentary with sky. He said he thought it was Bill Beaumont.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:28:13
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJDKfR6UwHI


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:30:54
Bomb Bing . . .  Lee Power.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:31:34
So is Ling pretty much confirmed then? The posts today would suggest yes, but I've seen nothing concrete?

We've pretty much gone with the local media chaps opinions. Who seem adamant.

Nothing concrete.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:34:14
I was right behind that Broomes one, it was still rising as it hit the top corner, outrageous hit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:42:11
Did Broomes not also score against us once?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:44:17
We've pretty much gone with the local media chaps opinions. Who seem adamant.

Nothing concrete.

Ta.

That'll be the local media that thought Cooper was definitely off to Sheffield Wednesday. And Ajose was never going to sign.

Luke Williams it is then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:54:25
Ta.

That'll be the local media that thought Cooper was definitely off to Sheffield Wednesday. And Ajose was never going to sign.

Luke Williams it is then.

Yep.

It would be quite amusing/impressive if Power managed to stump everyone and appoint a name who hasn't been mentioned.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Monday, November 2, 2015, 20:59:53
Yep.

It would be quite amusing/impressive if Power managed to stump everyone and appoint a name who hasn't been mentioned.

Sven Giran-Ericcson & Tord Grip.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Mother Brown on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:17:09
Did Broomes not also score against us once?
Good show jumper in his day.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:19:16
Biggest memory of Craig Taylor was his handball on the line at home to Ipswich inside the first ten minutes.  Red card, pen scored plus another five other goals.  One of my lowest moments as a Town fan that match.
I threw a mushroom across the kitchen after that match, listening to Green Day, preparing a meal for my girlfriend and her friend, an Ipswich fan. The mushroom exploded satisfyingly against the kitchen wall. One of my lowest moments as a Town fan/chef.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:21:22
If it is Ling, with his past depression issues I am a bit concerned for him if it does all go pear shaped. We're not expected to be all nice and understanding are we because of his his past issues are we? If God forbid things go down the Paul Hart route then he'll be a man under a lot of pressure and getting a lot of criticism...

I know this probably sounds a bit harsh as its not his fault but it does add another risk on top of what you already have when you appoint a new manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:25:42
I gave up on the club
If we all did that, there wouldn't be a club for you to post a grumble at.

My advice would be to 'take the pain' and accept STFC for what it is, will be and has been.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:35:57
This is going to be a bit of a disaster isn't it.

As people have alluded to already, his mental health is clearly an issue. It's admirable that he's been open about it - but you wouldn't pick a 20 stone bloke to be a jockey, you wouldn't give a blind man a job as a pilot and at the risk of sounding cruel its a bit mental to put a manic depressive in a high pressure job played out in the public eye.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:41:15
This is going to be a bit of a disaster isn't it.

As people have alluded to already, his mental health is clearly an issue. It's admirable that he's been open about it - but you wouldn't pick a 20 stone bloke to be a jockey, you wouldn't give a blind man a job as a pilot and at the risk of sounding cruel its a bit mental to put a manic depressive in a high pressure job played out in the public eye.

Is his issue manic depression? I hadn't seen that referenced. That's a long-term condition and a lot different from temporary work-related burnout. Sauce?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:42:33
Poor choice of phrase on my part. But you know what I mean.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:42:44
I thought the same Red Frog, never seen manic depression refreneced anywhere


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:42:55
This is going to be a bit of a disaster isn't it.

As people have alluded to already, his mental health is clearly an issue. It's admirable that he's been open about it - but you wouldn't pick a 20 stone bloke to be a jockey, you wouldn't give a blind man a job as a pilot and at the risk of sounding cruel its a bit mental to put a manic depressive in a high pressure job played out in the public eye.

A pretty odd comparison, I know of people who have had severe mental health issues in the past, comparable with Ling, and are now, 10 years on, back working and have been for years, very successfully and have been for years.

It's an illness, some people can completely recover, some can't. I guess Martin and his doctors would have s better idea than some blokes on an Internet forum of what category he falls into


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:44:24
A pretty odd comparison, I know of people who have had severe mental health issues in the past, comparable with Ling, and are now, 10 years on, back working and have been for years, very successfully and have been for years.

It's an illness, some people can completely recover, some can't. I guess Martin and his doctors would have s better idea than some blokes on an Internet forum of what category he falls into

How many of them work in a job as public as professional football?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:45:19
I thought the same Red Frog, never seen manic depression refreneced anywhere

More details here Tans, and also in the (excellent) Living On The Volcano book by Micheal Calvin

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/martin-ling-interview-former-leyton-orient-manager-on-seeking-therapy-for-mental-health-issues-and-10466664.html


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:47:19
How many of them work in a job as public as professional football?

They work in very high pressured jobs, not necessarily as public I grant you, as I said I think he and his medical team will judge what is and isn't best for him. From reading about him in the book I mentioned in an above post, he clearly thinks he's ready to return and personally I think he should be given a chance.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:49:28
How many of them work in a job as public as professional football?
I do side with DMR on this. He's also going to get constantly reminded and asked questions about it which I can't imagine will help matters.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:58:25
They work in very high pressured jobs, not necessarily as public I grant you, as I said I think he and his medical team will judge what is and isn't best for him. From reading about him in the book I mentioned in an above post, he clearly thinks he's ready to return and personally I think he should be given a chance.

I didn't ask about pressure. Because to a degree it's irrelevant. I would imagine the depressed shelf stacker feels under as much pressure as a depressed football manager. One doesn't get national and local media coverage weekly though.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 21:59:25
I do side with DMR on this. He's also going to get constantly reminded and asked questions about it which I can't imagine will help matters.

Yeah I can just hear Hodgetts now "So Martin, conceding a last minute equaliser must be hard to take, will you be checking into The Priory again?"

He'll be judged, like all managers, by results on the pitch.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:01:53
I didn't ask about pressure. Because to a degree it's irrelevant. I would imagine the depressed shelf stacker feels under as much pressure as a depressed football manager. One doesn't get national and local media coverage weekly though.

True but he's done the job before so he'll know what to expect, I imagine he's thought long and hard about if he's ready to come back and consulted professionals.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:03:30
Can't see DMR's retarded thinking on the effects of work-related stress helping his campaign to snuggle up to Ells...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:05:47
I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:06:57
I didn't ask about pressure. Because to a degree it's irrelevant. I would imagine the depressed shelf stacker feels under as much pressure as a depressed football manager. One doesn't get national and local media coverage weekly though.

We know from past TEF history, that there are a surprising number of TEFers, who either have had or currently have what might be termed mental health issues, associated with depression etc.

It's for the best that such issues are brought out into the open discussed and hopefully destigmatised.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:13:14
I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.

Well I know you like to look down on everyone here from your intellectual peak Davey boy, but it wasn't me playing fast and loose with the terminology. Manic depression and a depressive episode brought on by stress at work are very different things. Ells could teach you more than me but a) you're probably not listening and b) she probably doesn't want to risk talking to you.

And "kid"'s funny from a rookie sales manager who clearly doesn't have much of a feel for managing people.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:16:20
I think that if you lump stress at work and depression in the same bracket then there's only one retard here and it isn't me kid.

Genuine question. If Martin Ling had been diagnosed with cancer instead, would you still think you knew better than his specialist whether he was ready to return to work?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:20:48
"Knew better than his specialist"

Don't be ridiculous. I think it will probably be a disaster and have said as much. Forgive me for having such a bleak view. The straight answer to your question is that yes, I think it's probably a bad idea for all concerned.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:26:09
The real question is... What do you care Dave?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:26:20
Well I know you like to look down on everyone here from your intellectual peak Davey boy, but it wasn't me playing fast and loose with the terminology. Manic depression and a depressive episode brought on by stress at work are very different things. Ells could teach you more than me but a) you're probably not listening and b) she probably doesn't want to risk talking to you.

And "kid"'s funny from a rookie sales manager who clearly doesn't have much of a feel for managing people.

"Manic Depression" is no longer a thing. What people probably mean by manic depression is Bi-polar disorder, and as far as I'm aware Ling was never diagnosed with that. Depression and Bi-polar disorder are completely different.

I believe he had a nervous breakdown and a serious bout of depression, which if you really want to go into diagnostics is described as "uni-polar" depression, but is no less debilitating.
 
Depression is an illness and, when managed properly, shouldn't be different to a diagnosis of a broken leg or a joint problem. It may flare up now and then but it shouldn't affect his ability to do his job. If he is in a position where he feels able to take on the job then he bloody well should. People with mental health difficulties aren't some sort of protected species; with the right support there's no reason why he shouldn't prosper.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:27:54
I'd say it's 'ridiculous' to think that he hasn't sought medical advice before deciding to take this step. I also think it's 'ridiuclous' that you are writing him off based on something you've half heard about.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DMR on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:28:41
As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:30:35
As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?

Tell David Busst that [edit], kid [/edit]. And no sorry, I'm taken.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Monday, November 2, 2015, 22:36:30
As far as I'm aware a broken leg doesn't "flare up now and again" but well Wikipedia'd anyway. Now about that drink?

I'm a trainee psychologist with a joint problem*, I don't need Wikipedia. I break bones all the time. I do know the score.

Mind you, have you checked your cuniforms lately? Apparently your third one is gay.  :sherlock:

*not weed


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Quagmire on Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:02:15
Sam seems to think a new chief scout is on his way in too. Power taking more of a back seat maybe?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:05:39
Sam seems to think a new chief scout is on his way in too. Power taking more of a back seat maybe?
Power said the next couple of seasons were all about building up the clubs infrastructure which will include personnel as well as bricks and mortar. So would imagine it's all part of that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:09:29
Sam seems to think a new chief scout is on his way in too. Power taking more of a back seat maybe?

Sherwood?  Might see him keep 100% of his compensation and still get a job...

(this isn't serious)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Levi lapper on Monday, November 2, 2015, 23:21:48
This is going to be a bit of a disaster isn't it.

As people have alluded to already, his mental health is clearly an issue. It's admirable that he's been open about it - but you wouldn't pick a 20 stone bloke to be a jockey, you wouldn't give a blind man a job as a pilot and at the risk of sounding cruel its a bit mental to put a manic depressive in a high pressure job played out in the public eye.

1 in 4 people suffer from a mental health problem in their lives. I'm sure some very successful managers have suffered from depression.

Many people have personality disorders and function well in their jobs.

Some people are just twats, evidently.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 08:15:03
Live on tv too wasnt it?
No that was the start of the following season when Graz lashed one in off the bar.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 08:19:02
Personally, I think the job is a perfect fit for Ling.

Working with people he knows, at a club he knows and without all the stress that comes with being a 'traditional' manager.

People can complain about the management structure at the club but as it is Ling, Williams and Emburey all get along and know and accept it.

Apart from probably losing my bet on Williams, I'm fairly pleased with it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: wheretherealredsare on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 08:24:23
So we'll be coaching cricket too? That'll put a different spin on training.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:03:09
Sherwood?  Might see him keep 100% of his compensation and still get a job...

(this isn't serious)

Sam Jewell, son of Paul if Sam Morshead is right.

A 25yr old golfer


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:16:10
Working with people he knows, at a club he knows

Seen this BIB mentioned a few times. I don't really buy that. How many people working at the CG did he work with in his time?

I doubt knowing the way to the bogs and coffee room on your first day is a big advantage.

(Unless he's been working with the club, in which case I can see the point)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:21:33
He probably knows Albert though......oh


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:29:13
Seen this BIB mentioned a few times. I don't really buy that. How many people working at the CG did he work with in his time?

I doubt knowing the way to the bogs and coffee room on your first day is a big advantage.

(Unless he's been working with the club, in which case I can see the point)

Well, he did only leave the club 19 years ago.
So I'd say he will know no one, and some people won't have seen him play for us either.
....and whilst I didn't start going regularly till our Premiership season, I always thought Ling was a bit crap.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Kinky Tom on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:34:33
Think Audrey is alluding to the coaches we have in place inc. Embleton rather than other staff at the club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:37:52
did you mean that Audrey?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:40:32
What times the presser?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:42:02
10


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:49:29
 :pint:
did you mean that Audrey?
Only in the sense of being familiar with the fabric of the club. Just a bit less of a thing to get used to - but I really don't think his past problems will have a bearing on his future


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:52:46
10
Ta, so in 8 minutes time we will know!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:56:23
I always remember Ross Maclaren giving Lingy a ribbing in the documentary "That's football"


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: EldeneRed on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:59:02
Looks a dead cert, Martin Ling then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:59:12
Ling is there.

Welcome back Lingy, and good luck.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 09:59:45
I loved Lingy as a player, hope he's successful as manager (if it is indeed him).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:00:21
Ding a ling


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:01:16
Lets see what Fanzai has to say

'Branco goes for a wander forward but he can't pick out Ajose'

Interesting stuff.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:02:15
I was desperate for Ling to be our manager in 2007... Dreams do come true, eventually I guess...!

Good luck!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: EldeneRed on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:02:42
Ling is the new Manager.

"BREAKING NEWS: Martin Ling is announced as Swindon Town manager"


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:04:39
Oh dear.

Just take it as gospel.

Come Monday, or whenever, if it isn't true call me a cunt.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:06:28
I wont believe it until its on Fanzai.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:06:53
I wont believe it until its on Fanzai.



You might have to wait 6 months...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Stevens on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:07:07
Oh dear.


What was the prediction?



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:09:31
I know when that hotline ling


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: PetsWinPrizes on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:09:38
What was the prediction?



Williams with Embleton (or whatever he's called) as coach IIRC


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:09:48
Dunno, but the horse brass is being readied.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:10:08
Latter day Ling alarmingly looks a little like Noel Edmonds.


(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CS4QmM1XIAAsuMc.jpg)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Stevens on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:11:01
Williams with Embleton (or whatever he's called) as coach IIRC

Oooh, he's a cunt then!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:11:35
Dunno, but the horse brass is being readied.
I'm a cunt


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:12:09
Ling on 2.5 yrs contract.

Embleton "ongoing" - not yet confirmed.

Gladwin loan extended - no news re FA Cup clearance.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nomoreheroes on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:13:25
Embleton "ongoing" - not yet confirmed.

Gladwin loan extended - no news re FA Cup clearance.
Power said it was extended but he wouldn't be able to play in the FA Cup.

Thought Ling gave a very poor interview.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:13:34
One of us has hearing problems. I heard Gladwin cant play Saturday?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:14:30
One of us has hearing problems. I heard Gladwin cant play Saturday?

That'd be me then.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:14:39
Power said it was extended but he wouldn't be able to play in the FA Cup.

Thought Ling gave a very poor interview.

Yeah he was certainly nervous. Was probably tense about the question that never came.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:15:19
Power said it was extended but he wouldn't be able to play in the FA Cup.

Thought Ling gave a very poor interview.

I think you can blame the beeb for that. They didn't cover the whole thing and chose to play crappy music instead.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:15:26
meh. underwhelmed.

But fingers crossed it works out


Title: Re:
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:15:59
Williams staying as assistant coach?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:17:02
I'm a cunt

What is the penance ?? Hitler tache or name change to Cunt/Lingy's bum boy


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:17:40
I think you can blame the beeb for that. They didn't cover the whole thing and chose to play crappy music instead.

To be fair I'm sure their next segment will be something pretty important though


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:18:21
What is the penance ?? Hitler tache or name change to Cunt/Lingy's bum boy
I was half right. Got the Embolism bit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:18:44
Fucking annoying that BBC Wilts pulled their coverage as soon as Shaun had finished asking his four wishy washy, fan-boy questions, banging on about an FA Cup goal from 25 years ago or some bollocks. Jesus wept. Tried to then pick up the rest on FLIC's "live blog", which was about as enjoyable and informative as stepping on a slug barefoot.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:18:46
I remember during the week after Leicester at Wembley, walking along Devizes Road, when Lingy drove up, parked his car opposite Talk of the Town, heading towards Wroughton, and scuttled off in for a trim. Traffic chaos ensued, I suspect he felt as a Wembley hero, parking legislation didn't apply.

He'll have to find somewhere else to get his barnet done now.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:21:13
meh. underwhelmed.

But fingers crossed it works out

I'd think like this if is wasn't for the fact that the alternatives could have been a lot worse.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:22:13
I like Lingy. I remember watching him come on as a sub for his first appearance (second time around – can't even remember seeing him play in his first, short spell under Macari) away at Port Vale at the end of the 90/91 season and being excited by him......and in much the same way I'm excited about him becoming manager (we still lost to Port Vale mind...).


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:26:32
Who needs Cantona, when we've got Martin Ling !!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:27:56
Not that inspired, not that disappointed, he is our manager and we need to get behind him and the team.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pax Romana on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:28:36
I remember Lingy as a player who added that extra quality that could transform a workmanlike team into something special.  A poor man's Hoddle.  Problem was that he got muscled out of games too easily.  

Is he tough enough for a Div 3 relegation battle?  Not particularly a poke at his health issues but more his general personality.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:29:29
I like Lingy. I remember watching him come on as a sub for his first appearance (second time around – can't even remember seeing him play in his first, short spell under Macari) away at Port Vale at the end of the 90/91 season and being excited by him......and in much the same way I'm excited about him becoming manager (we still lost to Port Vale mind...).

His first spell, was short, and concluded by the classic 2-6 defeat, under Macari, to Blackpool at the CG.  Lou fired out Lingy, David Cole and Kenny Allen, and we went up.

From 4-0 down at half time we at least showed a bit of spirit, with Leigh Barnard showing the way with a brace, he's the sort of player we'll need to get out of the shit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:30:37
Leigh Barnyard? FFS


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:31:10
http://www.swindonadvertiser.co.uk/sport/swindon_town_2014/13932293.Ling_named_as_new_Swindon_Town_manager/

Oh god looking at the picture are we going to have the same problems that we had with PDC?

Reading the story I think I have identified our problem, the manager only has a rein (not reins), how is he supposed to manage and control the team with only 1?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: joteddyred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:33:15
I really hope he does well, but if I'm honest I'm a bit disappointed.  I was hoping Power was going to pull a surprise out of the bag.

Not sure he's going to be the right man to takeover a team in a relegation scrap. He's under pressure from the off.  Not ideal for somebody who through an extreme breakdown.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:34:58
I'd think like this if is wasn't for the fact that the alternatives could have been a lot worse.

Yes, I think he was as experienced a manager as we were likely to get under our MO.

In times past I'd probably have been on more of a downer about it, but times have changed.

Doesn't matter what anyone thinks anyway, other than it not  immediately lifting the fans - what counts is results.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:36:34
Wow.   We waited that long for this announcement!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ginginho on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:36:41
OK, so let's see how we go. Not excited nor too disappointed really.

I always thought he'd come and manage us at some point.

Good luck, Lingy.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:36:51
Leigh Barnyard? FFS

Yes, there's always a place for grafter in a Div 3 side....which is why Barnard played 41 games in the promoted 86/87 side, the most of any player save Colin Calderwood.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:38:13
Yep I don't disagree with many of the thoughts, but time to get behind him and the team and get out of this horrible mess were in.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:38:44
Yep I don't disagree with many of the thoughts, but time to get behind him and the team and get out of this horrible mess were in.

Absolutely!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Pax Romana on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:40:07
Leigh Barnyard? FFS

Reg is spot on.  3 or 4 Lee Barnard's in the team and we probably wouldn't set the world on fire but we also wouldn't get relegated.

The 'fans' who booed him at the start of the first championship season were morons.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:43:43
He was never in my top ten in the team on matchday's.. but he did do a job most of the time. You knew that you would always get effort if little skill.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Exiled Bob on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:50:15
His first spell, was short, and concluded by the classic 2-6 defeat, under Macari, to Blackpool at the CG.  Lou fired out Lingy, David Cole and Kenny Allen, and we went up.

From 4-0 down at half time we at least showed a bit of spirit, with Leigh Barnard showing the way with a brace, he's the sort of player we'll need to get out of the shit.
Remember the match, but can't recall Lingy at all. But then his style of play and Macari's were hardly compatible....

I remember the fans briefly getting on the backs of the players - a few jeers and even cries of "What a load of rubbish" (those were the days, eh....) from a few but the fans really got behind them in the second half and that seemed to inspire them. I also remember Mayes getting one of the Blackpool goals...much to the delight of the Town End  8)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:52:56
 The one ray of hope I have, is that Crewe came up with us from Div 4, and each of the 3 seasons since, have looked likely to drop back again, but have survived by presumably sticking to their young player, passing philosophy.

 No doubt we'll stick with ours now, so it can be done, despite conventional wisdom calling for muck and nettles football.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 10:55:12
I'm hoping he'll be really motivated to prove a point after his time out of the game. If he can deliver on these words he'll be a perfect fit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsd22bXbV4I#t=2m50s (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bsd22bXbV4I#t=2m50s)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: ronnie21 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:04:25
He probably knows Albert though......oh
He'll know Curly for sure!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:11:34
A few of us are hoping to do a little display in the DRS to welcome Lingy back to the CG. We have got a plan to get it going, just people & a bit of money* to buy stuff would be good.

We're using this as a good reason to help push the team on and keep the atmosphere's as good as they have been for the last 2 or 3 games.

Donate here gofund.me/stfcdisplays or ask me for a PayPal address to send any money to. We still have stickers available, so if you want some, just ask for them :).

* Yeah, har har, here's JayBox325 asking for a hand-out again! There, I've taken the piss so now you don't have to! :)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:14:28

Donate here gofund.me/stfcdisplays or ask me for a PayPal address to send any money to. We still have stickers available, so if you want some, just ask for them :).

What do they stickers look like ?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:18:55
Having had depression doesn't mean you are unable to deal with pressure.

Jesus Christ I knew Town fans in general are thick as fuck but the level of ignorance is frightening.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:19:32
Best of luck to Ling, hope it works out for us and him.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: SuperBosnian on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:20:42
I've suffered with depression and to be honest I think it makes you able to deal with more pressure if you've come out the other side.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:50:01
What do they stickers look like ?

It's the first batch, so I'm still learning how best to design them for the size/shape, but I think they came out nicely.

https://twitter.com/TownEndDisplays/status/647459946615951362


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:51:11
Quite a number of comments on the Adver site are very 'special'


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:52:04
Having had depression doesn't mean you are unable to deal with pressure.

Jesus Christ I knew Town fans in general are thick as fuck but the level of ignorance is frightening.

I thought exactly the same


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: donkey on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:53:52
Ling was a star on the 92/93 team, personally my player of the season. He was manager of Orient when they relegated Oxford to non league. That's a better cv than most have when they start here.😊


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 11:57:03
I thought exactly the same

 :nod:

Including from people who I thought were intelligent enough to know better.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:01:29
Right I can exclusively reveal that Martin Ling is our new manager. 

Sauce - Fanzai. 


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:14:22

Right I can exclusively reveal that Martin Ling is our new manager. 

I'm not surprised by this appointment he was available, cheap and there was no compensation to pay to another club.
I normally sure whether I like the new manager or not, however I feel this is a Danny Wilson style appointment. We may get a bounce and just avoid the drop (I doubt that) but moving forward, well I can't see it myself. Will he be able to change the style of play? can he sign reinforcements? what happens if the loosing run continues, i.e we get to Jan rock bottom and no chance of survival? As a past player I'd like to wish him well but Colin Calderwood type manager is what we need at the moment.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Stevens on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:17:02
Right I can exclusively reveal that Martin Ling is our new manager. 

I'm not surprised by this appointment he was available, cheap and there was no compensation to pay to another club.

I normally sure whether I like the new manager or not, however I feel this is a Danny Wilson style appointment. We may get a bounce and just avoid the drop (I doubt that) but moving forward, well I can't see it myself. Will he be able to change the style of play? can he sign reinforcements? what happens if the loosing run continues, i.e we get to Jan rock bottom and no chance of survival? As a past player I'd like to wish him well but Colin Calderwood type manager is what we need at the moment.

So that makes good business sense, yes?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:23:20

I'm not surprised by this appointment he was available, cheap and there was no compensation to pay to another club.

Like every other appointment we've made in living memory?


Will he be able to change the style of play?

Why would he need to?


Can he sign reinforcements?

For the millionth time, it wouldn't be him doing the recruiting and those who do have proved over their tenure that they're pretty darn good at it, although this year's may be a bit of a mixed bunch at the moment.

Colin Calderwood type manager is what we need at the moment.

Just no.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Benzel on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:27:14
Right I can exclusively reveal that Martin Ling is our new manager. 

I'm not surprised by this appointment he was available, cheap and there was no compensation to pay to another club.
I normally sure whether I like the new manager or not, however I feel this is a Danny Wilson style appointment. We may get a bounce and just avoid the drop (I doubt that) but moving forward, well I can't see it myself. Will he be able to change the style of play? can he sign reinforcements? what happens if the loosing run continues, i.e we get to Jan rock bottom and no chance of survival? As a past player I'd like to wish him well but Colin Calderwood type manager is what we need at the moment.
Is this a wind up?

Colin Calderwood?

I'm so done.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:34:29
It's not only the adver site, some of the comments on Facebook are just so 'special'. i particularly like the one who stated 'It's my opinion and I won't change it', after just ripping into Lingy before a fucking ball's been kicked. He may be right and the appointment might be a disaster, but to attack the new manager on the day he's appointed is just wrong (Unless we had appointed Steve Evans, or some other horrible cunt) but to state he's not willing to change his opinion.... What, ever? What about if Ling works miracles?

I know this has been done to death, but we must have some of the most negative, miserable, moany fans of any club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:34:55
Is this a wind up?

Colin Calderwood?

I'm so done.

Cobblers.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:37:34
Right I can exclusively reveal that Martin Ling is our new manager.  

I'm not surprised by this appointment he was available, cheap and there was no compensation to pay to another club.
I normally sure whether I like the new manager or not, however I feel this is a Danny Wilson style appointment. We may get a bounce and just avoid the drop (I doubt that) but moving forward, well I can't see it myself. Will he be able to change the style of play? can he sign reinforcements? what happens if the loosing run continues, i.e we get to Jan rock bottom and no chance of survival? As a past player I'd like to wish him well but Colin Calderwood type manager is what we need at the moment.

Colin's record isn't a whole lot better than Lingy's, ....we haven't paid compensation for a new boss since taking Bobby Smith from Bury in 78.

If we avoid the drop, then he'll have done a very good job, all 3 of our ex players who've managed have got us relegated....obviously he can't change the basic premise underpining the style of play, and like Cooper he can have some input into recruitment....Hylton and Michael Smith were both Cooper picks...the Brighton lads...Williams.

I was interested in the talk of a scout coming in, because clearly it's recruitment that has gone wrong this season....the alarm bells started ringing for me with the Francophone players coming in....why?

Last season one of the features seemed to be a good team spirit, engendered by a group of a similar age and type. That seems to have fragmented badly this season....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: derbystfc on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:40:30
Lingy was my fav player when I was like 8/9, There is a part of me thats a bit excited actually, I dont think he will set the world on fire, but I think he may surprise a few of the doubters.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:40:38
Not recruitment, Reg. Fucking injuries to those recruited.

Let's see what happens when they are all available.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Nemo on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:44:02
Lingy was my fav player when I was like 8/9, There is a part of me thats a bit excited actually, I dont think he will set the world on fire, but I think he may surprise a few of the doubters.

I had the same affection for Iffy, for the same reasons. I hope this goes better.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:44:28
Colin's record isn't a whole lot better than Lingy's, ....we haven't paid compensation for a new boss since taking Bobby Smith from Bury in 78.

If we avoid the drop, then he'll have done a very good job, all 3 of our ex players who've managed have got us relegated....obviously he can't change the basic premise underpining the style of play, and like Cooper he can have some input into recruitment....Hylton and Michael Smith were both Cooper picks...the Brighton lads...Williams.

I was interested in the talk of a scout coming in, because clearly it's recruitment that has gone wrong this season....the alarm bells started ringing for me with the Francophone players coming in....why?

Last season one of the features seemed to be a good team spirit, engendered by a group of a similar age and type. That seems to have fragmented badly this season....

Oh do put your Napoleonic Wars to bed Reg. Robert has been the most promising recruitment of the summer.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FormerlyPlymRed on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:44:34
Not recruitment, Reg. Fucking injuries to those recruited.

Let's see what happens when they are all available.
Indeed.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:50:28
Colin's record isn't a whole lot better than Lingy's, ....we haven't paid compensation for a new boss since taking Bobby Smith from Bury in 78.

If we avoid the drop, then he'll have done a very good job, all 3 of our ex players who've managed have got us relegated....obviously he can't change the basic premise underpining the style of play, and like Cooper he can have some input into recruitment....Hylton and Michael Smith were both Cooper picks...the Brighton lads...Williams.

I was interested in the talk of a scout coming in, because clearly it's recruitment that has gone wrong this season....the alarm bells started ringing for me with the Francophone players coming in....why?

Last season one of the features seemed to be a good team spirit, engendered by a group of a similar age and type. That seems to have fragmented badly this season....

Lings win ratio is roughly (i cannot be bothered to work out entirely) 36.34% (and one promotion to league 1)

Calderwoods win ratio is apparently 42.18% (and that takes account of a god awful spell at Hibs without that its c.45%) and has achieved one promotion to league one and then one promotion to Championship.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:51:34
Oh do put your Napoleonic Wars to bed Reg. Robert has been the most promising recruitment of the summer.
Indeed I blame Margaret Thatcher


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: FreddySTFC! on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:56:14
Oh do put your Napoleonic Wars to bed Reg. Robert has been the most promising recruitment of the summer.
Seconded. Clearly a cut above anybody else on the field whenever he's played imo.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 12:59:02
I'll back the guy as he he is manager of my club - is he what I expected ? No, is he what I think we need ? No, but like everyone else I will give him my backing and hope he can turn our form around, although not sure how not getting involved with the coaching will help our form.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:03:21
A quote from a Cambridge Utd fan

'I should point out the last two things are things he said about us whilst employed here. Don't think there's any malice in my words, more genuine concern. 

Lee Power channelled money out of our club and left us with several, noose like, contracts which were either completely fudged or at "highly preferential rates" to his own companies, whilst conveniently spending money that wasn't actually there. It took us years, and nearly everything we had to recover.

Ling is probably the single most disliked manager we've had. The football ranged from poor to abysmal, whilst the investments to his side went from "alright to substantial" and he just dragged us further and further down. The excuses ranged from the sublime to this ridiculous, but it took us two seasons of playing pretty much nothing but youth players for two seasons to clean up his mess.

I don't have anything against him, just some of his actions. In fact, I'd go as far to say that since he left us, I do quite admire how he has spoken out about mental illness. However, he was a dreadful, and disrespectful manager, and him with Power overseeing it? Ho hum.

As for us, we're fine chap, just relieved he won't end up back here.'


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:07:34
Oh do put your Napoleonic Wars to bed Reg. Robert has been the most promising recruitment of the summer.

Whilst an admirer of the contribution made by the French, in the realms of food, arts, maths, science and philosophy....I'm less enamoured of their contribution to politics and Div 2/3 STFC footballers.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: kaufman on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:14:43
If you speak to Orient fans, on the whole they love him. It doesn't always work out.
I'm interested to see how for the first time under Power's regime we have a Manager and a Coach who know their roles and are happy with that.
Same couldn't be said for Cooper and Kmac

I'll just leave this here.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gXpa6iR60wc&feature=youtu.be&t=2m7s


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: cambridgeunited on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:15:33
...God help you all.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:16:38
...God help you all.

Thanks.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:17:50
If you speak to Orient fans, on the whole they love him.

Torquay fans have a lot of time for him as well.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:33:38
...God help you all.

Couldn't afford Hoddle, so Ling will have to do.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:45:40
Who was the Cambridge manager who had the team that sent the ball into orbit for most of the match?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:47:02
Beck wasn't it? Played the same way at Histon when they beat us in the cup.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:49:28
Didn't they have a big lad up front,  Taylor?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 13:50:20
Ha, I'd forgotten Cambridge had a football club.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:03:47
I had the same affection for Iffy, for the same reasons. I hope this goes better.

I actually think Iffy was unlucky. He managed to turn our form around and we got out of the relegation zone but then he was forced to sell Fallon who was on good form. Things may have been different if we weren't forced to sell. Am I the only one thinks Iffy did okay?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:08:07
Our form actually turned around after Fallon left. It was when Cureton started scoring we went on a good run. As soon as his goals stopped we started losing. We were in a good position but we bottled it, I think losing at home to Franchise really did us in. Iffy did OK but I'm glad we didn't give him the reigns after we got relegated.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: cambridgeunited on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:09:28
Ha, I'd forgotten Cambridge had a football club.

You'll be reminded next season in League Two.

I am genuinely flabbergasted by this appointment. Blowing a ton of cash on assembling the worst squad we've had in fifty years in tandem with his arrogant, self-righteous and dismissive attitude towards the fans who turned up to watch complete drivel has earned Martin Ling a consensus among Cambridge fans as the worst manager we've had in living memory. Rest assured, that is no mean feat.

My opinion of him has softened since his mental health issues came to light, although he still managed to ruffle a few more feathers by referring to us as a 'shithole club' in that book written about him and depression.

Nothing against your club, but if I were you I'd be seriously concerned about the Good ship Swindon with Ling and Power (jesus wept!) at the helm.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:12:52
Whilst an admirer of the contribution made by the French, in the realms of food, arts, maths, science and philosophy....I'm less enamoured of their contribution to politics and Div 2/3 STFC footballers.

I think your Nelson eyepatch is blinding you to the hit-and-miss nature of lower-league football. I struggle to list the notably poor frogs we've had - Pericard, Sabin... -  but alongside those figure Cuervo, Darras, Comminges, Zaaboub, N'guessan, Razak, Kerrouche etc etc, all French nationals who more than held their own.

So why do you insist on picking out the French? De Gaulle? Culture envy? I know you're a bit old for new tricks, but could a hint of prejudice be clouding your judgment?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:14:47
For every grumpy Cambridge United fan there's a conplimentary Orient fan or a rational Torquay fan.

Ling will be judged by his Swindon managerial career, just the same as Cooper was despite his patchy non-league record.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:17:18
...God help you all.

God doesn't exist you thick cunt


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: horlock07 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:19:26
Our form actually turned around after Fallon left. It was when Cureton started scoring we went on a good run. As soon as his goals stopped we started losing. We were in a good position but we bottled it, I think losing at home to Franchise really did us in. Iffy did OK but I'm glad we didn't give him the reigns after we got relegated.
I don't remember Cureton ever scoring or going on a run.. he and Thorpe are two of the most disappointing signings we have had in my supporting time - should have given so much and delivered absolutely nothing!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:22:07
I think we had similar sentiments posted on here by a Posh fan when Cooper got the gig


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:29:22
I think we had similar sentiments posted on here by a Posh fan when Cooper got the gig

They told us he was a long-ball merchant.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Honest Lee on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:31:04
They told us he was a long-ball merchant.

Perhaps Cooper is.
Power isn't.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:32:47
They told us he was a long-ball merchant.
Maybe he was but his actual influence may have been very limited; restricted by Power's "footballing philosophy", Power's player selection and the fact he wasn't even doing the coaching.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:33:59
They told us he was a long-ball merchant.

I've wondered about this. It could explain why things started to go horribly wrong when Cooper supposedly wanted to do things his own way. His ideas could have been incompatible with what we are doing, leading to the lack of direction that some have alluded to.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:35:48
I actually didn't know Ling had managed Cambridge. Well wont be long before we know if he's wrong or right.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:37:33
So, it's not really a fresh start so much as a retro start.

Get back to last season's style and we'll all be happier - apart from Adver non-believers


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Chrystovski on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:37:36
Apologies if this has posted already but just stumbled upon this interview with Ling regarding his depression.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/martin-ling-interview-former-leyton-orient-manager-on-seeking-therapy-for-mental-health-issues-and-10466664.html

Asked about whether he thinks he will get back into Football management he says

“Do I think I’m going to get back? No, in my heart of hearts,” he reflects. “My CV always got me a job before all of this but it hasn’t since.”

Just over 2 months later and he has the top job at the club he loves. Welcome back Lingy and good luck  :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: BruceChatwin on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:39:34
I've wondered about this. It could explain why things started to go horribly wrong when Cooper supposedly wanted to do things his own way. His ideas could have been incompatible with what we are doing leading to the lack of direction that some have alluded to.

It will be very interesting to see how he does in his next job.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:41:02
Cambridge have a vacancy


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:45:12
Cambridge have a vacancy

A club well known for hoofball. The circle is complete (if he goes there)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:52:42
I would like to think Cooper would get a rousing reception if/when he returns to the CG


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:53:42
A friend of mine worked at one of Cooper's previous clubs and apparently he wasn't popular with the players and was thought of as being quite arrogant. I'm not sure whether anyone else had heard similar things from inside sources about his time at Swindon.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: 4D on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:56:54
You'll be reminded next season in League Two.


Looking forward to it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 14:57:10
Got to say I don't really care too much about a manager's personality - as long as the job gets done on the pitch.

Wouldn't imagine PdC was liked by all the players


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:01:08
A club well known for hoofball. The circle is complete (if he goes there)

No chance - Posh connection pretty much rules him out.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JayBox325 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:03:03
All this negativity is ridiculous. We've heard one interview from him and he hasn't even had a match yet. Give the bloke a chance.

Even if he doesn't beat Rochdale it's no biggy. He can't come in and flick a switch to get us winning. The players need to get used to him, he needs to get used to the playing ethos. So much has to happen for us to start winning games like last season.

Give him a chance!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:05:28
Got to say I don't really care too much about a manager's personality - as long as the job gets done on the pitch.

Wouldn't imagine PdC was liked by all the players
I know that results are the most important thing, but I think if players like and respect the manager then they will have more desire to play well for them. Most of the players during the Di Canio era did want to play well for him (at least at first) and he got the best out of a lot of the squad. His bull-in-a-China-shop mentality meant that unfortunately his expectations were probably unrealistic at times and he was too quick to fall out with players e.g. Clarke, Kerrouche, Caddis. He was good at motivating players but better at falling out with them. Managers like Klopp and Howe seem to have mastered getting their players on their side and motivated. Hopefully Ling will be able to do that too. Being an ex-player of good standing may help with that.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:24:40
I think your Nelson eyepatch is blinding you to the hit-and-miss nature of lower-league football. I struggle to list the notably poor frogs we've had - Pericard, Sabin... -  but alongside those figure Cuervo, Darras, Comminges, Zaaboub, N'guessan, Razak, Kerrouche etc etc, all French nationals who more than held their own.

So why do you insist on picking out the French? De Gaulle? Culture envy? I know you're a bit old for new tricks, but could a hint of prejudice be clouding your judgment?

I think you bring down your own case...not forgetting Sebastian Ruster, Jonathan Tehoue.

All could have the odd good game, or in the case of Comminges, a steady enough season, but when judged didn't do much, before disappearing with Gallic shrug of the shoulders.

To me, Bangoura, Balmy and Traore look terrible....Robert offers a bit more, but has a lot to do to prove he's a decent Div 3 player.

We just happen to have had French players...the odd Belgian Dane, Finn, Czech, Portugeezer, Spaniard, Italian, Estonian have all been shit too.

OK there's something to be said for the comical badness, of our 3 musketeers, with Robert as d'Artagnan.....certainly stand alongside, Adrian Bakali, Kim Heiselberg, Marko Tuomela, Lukas Magera, Tijane Reis, Landor Gabilondo, Alberto Comazzi, Henrik Ojamaa....in the rib tickling stakes.

OK I may be a bit harsh on Gabilondo.

Dutch....fare a bit better, but they play darts and cricket so to be expected.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:34:34
Bangoura and Balmy are hilarious bad but wouldn't have been signed if we didn't have 47 injuries. They'll never see the light of day again.

Traore, Bangoura and Robert all have the same agent.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:39:26
Traore looked good initially and seems to be getting worse. I don't think Balmy is that bad. Robert looks like he could be very good; when I have seen him this season he looked better than Luongo did for the the second half of last season.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:43:55
Bangoura and Balmy are hilarious bad but wouldn't have been signed if we didn't have 47 injuries. They'll never see the light of day again.

Traore, Bangoura and Robert all have the same agent.

And to me therein lies the problem for this season....we've seen before how we can be stitched up by an agent...in my list were T*dd signings, and PdC signings...we'd have got nowhere near getting out of Div 4, without the remains of Wilson's side, like Ritchie, Caddis, Flint and Ferry.

Power probably got lucky that he could call on Tim Sherwood for signings from Spurs, and then use keeping Anton as a lever into Liverpool, but neither is now available.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:55:05
I may be wrong, but the agent of those three is linked to Cooper - they're his signings, not Power's.

But yes, you're right.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:55:20
I don't think it's fair to mention those bad signings and neglect talking about one of the worst signings; Brad Barry. It was evident from his first involvement in preseason friendlies that he isn't up to scratch and was playing his team mates into trouble with poor backpasses time and time again, resulting in goals on occasion, like the late one against Villa. I'm certain that if he was no relation to Gareth Barry he would not being playing in League One. I haven't seen any of his so-called potential. Against Wigan he was beaten down his flank twice in the opening 3 or 4 minutes, on one occasion he was outmuscled completely and it was embarrassing for him to be honest. You can see that Branco has some words with him afterwards (looks like words of encouragement, rather than having a go) but he looked like the weakest link. I wonder if there was resistance from Cooper to sign him as the whole saga seemed very protracted. Cooper seemed to say things like "Barry did okay" after his preseason trial appearances but never really praised his performances unlike some of the others e.g. Robert. There seemed to be a certain inevitability about signing him. There must be some kind of motive to signing him like there may have been with us signing (and regularly playing) Rodgers because Barry certainly doesn't look like he is here on footballing merit.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: random_five on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 15:57:16

Blowing a ton of cash on assembling the worst squad we've had in fifty years

- Can't happen here, Ling won't be involved with player recruitment

 in tandem with his arrogant, self-righteous and dismissive attitude towards the fans who turned up to watch

- Unlikely to happen here either, due to Ling's connection to the club from his playing days
 
although he still managed to ruffle a few more feathers by referring to us as a 'shithole club'

- You are a shithole club

Next.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:03:00
Most, if not all, of our players have been poor up until the last couple of games. Even the ones we know are not poor. Let's not judge the new guys by what's happened this season. They could come good if recent changes have the intended effect.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:22:13
I don't think it's fair to mention those bad signings and neglect talking about one of the worst signings; Brad Barry. It was evident from his first involvement in preseason friendlies that he isn't up to scratch and was playing his team mates into trouble with poor backpasses time and time again, resulting in goals on occasion, like the late one against Villa. I'm certain that if he was no relation to Gareth Barry he would not being playing in League One. I haven't seen any of his so-called potential. Against Wigan he was beaten down his flank twice in the opening 3 or 4 minutes, on one occasion he was outmuscled completely and it was embarrassing for him to be honest. You can see that Branco has some words with him afterwards (looks like words of encouragement, rather than having a go) but he looked like the weakest link. I wonder if there was resistance from Cooper to sign him as the whole saga seemed very protracted. Cooper seemed to say things like "Barry did okay" after his preseason trial appearances but never really praised his performances unlike some of the others e.g. Robert. There seemed to be a certain inevitability about signing him. There must be some kind of motive to signing him like there may have been with us signing (and regularly playing) Rodgers because Barry certainly doesn't look like he is here on footballing merit.

Barry is a product what might be called the Agombar syndrome....other than he was at Brighton so Williams might have had something to do with it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:24:35
Agombar only made one appearance for us though so his lack of skill didn't matter as much.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:33:32
If I had one big moan about Power's recruitment it has been his failure to sign a decent left back/wingback.

He seems willing to dish out contracts for plenty of average midfielders but he seems to turn away from a left back.

Oh for a Bodin


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Panda Paws on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:37:47
Toffolo was pretty darn good for the majority of last season....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:41:24
Turnbull has done okay when he's been put there but I struggle to remember when we last had a good left back....I'm not going to count Byrne because he was much better in midfield in my opinion.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:46:01
I never really rated Toffolo. We're now squeezing non left backs into the role.

BOO looks poor. But it is so obvious to me that teams attack us down the left more often than not. They know where our weakness lies


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: molepar on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:49:54
Apart from when Barry plays and then they attack us on that side...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 16:58:27
Agombar only made one appearance for us though so his lack of skill didn't matter as much.

The point is that it showed the club was signing players for reasons other than being a footballer...we've seen this before where players have been signed as a favour to an agent, or some such madness.

It's the murky world of football transfers involving agents....remember when Fitton tried to do without them for deals. When Wray took over he had no such qualms but spunked a fortune on dross.

We seem to  have been taken for a ride in the summer...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: blah blah on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 17:08:52
Agombar wasnt even the first - who was the lad that Kingy signed who was the son of a mate of his ? Big gangly centre back I think, played 1 JPT game away at Boston, never to be seen again.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 17:10:17
Agombar wasnt even the first - who was the lad that Kingy signed who was the son of a mate of his ? Big gangly centre back I think, played 1 JPT game away at Boston, never to be seen again.

Ben Martin.  I once had a chat with Big Ben, who told me he was in fact more of a tennis player  :)

I think that JPT game, Boston were in the south section, whereas Hereford in the north  :)

Hereford were in the first round of the FA Vase on Sat, along with such sides as FC Romania and the wonderful Sporting Khalsa.  The name Agombar links both Hereford and us  ;)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 17:32:07
Agombar wasnt even the first - who was the lad that Kingy signed who was the son of a mate of his ? Big gangly centre back I think, played 1 JPT game away at Boston, never to be seen again.

Ben martin


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 17:58:42
to be honest Barry has looked a bit better than when I saw him at supermarine, where I reckon I could have done just as well.

given the opposition have got tougher I suppose that's a positive...

never seen anything in traore, he just runs around a lot.

not looking forward to Louis and gladwin going back. have to hope we have replacements lined up...


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Whits on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:01:04
Turnbull has done okay when he's been put there but I struggle to remember when we last had a good left back....

Jason Drysdale?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:09:30
What ever happened to that one we had on loan for like a couple of months. Liam Ridehalgh was it? think it was under Di Canio?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:10:40
What ever happened to that one we had on loan for like a couple of months. Liam Ridealgh was it? think it was under Di Canio?

Tranmere in the Conference.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:11:04
Tranmere in the Conference.

He was quite good for us. Can't believe he's there


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:13:18
He was quite good for us. Can't believe he's there

Well they were a L1 club when he joined them.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red Frog on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:18:23
I think you bring down your own case...not forgetting Sebastian Ruster, Jonathan Tehoue.

All could have the odd good game, or in the case of Comminges, a steady enough season, but when judged didn't do much, before disappearing with Gallic shrug of the shoulders.

To me, Bangoura, Balmy and Traore look terrible....Robert offers a bit more, but has a lot to do to prove he's a decent Div 3 player.

We just happen to have had French players...the odd Belgian Dane, Finn, Czech, Portugeezer, Spaniard, Italian, Estonian have all been shit too.

OK there's something to be said for the comical badness, of our 3 musketeers, with Robert as d'Artagnan.....certainly stand alongside, Adrian Bakali, Kim Heiselberg, Marko Tuomela, Lukas Magera, Tijane Reis, Landor Gabilondo, Alberto Comazzi, Henrik Ojamaa....in the rib tickling stakes.

OK I may be a bit harsh on Gabilondo.

Dutch....fare a bit better, but they play darts and cricket so to be expected.

Well there's a lot I agree with there. To your list you could have added - sticking to permanent signings only - Togo (Dossevi), Namibia (Risser), Australia (Brownlie/Robertson), Nigeria (Yinka Casal/Onion Bhaji), Argentina (Cobian), Egypt (El Gabas), Trinidad & Tobago (Shakes). Oh and while you're sucking off the Dutch: Antoine van der Linden.

All of which only seems to indicate that little clubs like us without a serious international scouting network tend to take generally unsuccessful punts on foreign "talent". So you can safely extend your little Englander instincts beyond Frog-bashing to a more general xenophobia. HTH.  ;)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 18:53:15
You can guarantee more George Moncur rumours in January as well if Ling gets the job.

That didn't take long.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:00:43
He's a cheddar man.

That's all I need to know, we're fucking going up.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:15:36
He's a cheddar man.

That's all I need to know, we're fucking going up.

This is the best news we've had in ages.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:35:00
Interesting piece on Ling here

http://www.wsc.co.uk/the-archive/30-Clubs/4887-firing-line

And he said it gave him a little bit of pleasure to send Oxford down. We aren't hard to please..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Red and Proud on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:39:29
I don't remember Cureton ever scoring or going on a run.. he and Thorpe are two of the most disappointing signings we have had in my supporting time - should have given so much and delivered absolutely nothing!
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Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:51:07
....and whilst I didn't start going regularly till our Premiership season, I always thought Ling was a bit crap.
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: @mwooly63 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:54:29
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.

Nope.
Was a decent enough player, always willing to run at players. And you don't keep a midfield place in the same team as Hoddle if you're a bit crap.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: herthab on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:56:36
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.
I'm guessing that DV was very young back when Ling was a player here. From my memory he was a good attacking midfielder in the best Swindon side I've ever watched.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 19:58:37
I saw him play.

He didn't stand out as amazing, but this was in a team that included the likes of Hoddle et al. He certainly was not crap.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:00:16
Apologies if this has posted already but just stumbled upon this interview with Ling regarding his depression.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/football-league/martin-ling-interview-former-leyton-orient-manager-on-seeking-therapy-for-mental-health-issues-and-10466664.html
If anyone hasn't read this then I urge them to do so and then comment on him being weak and fragile.

Ling's willingness to speak openly on the subject knowing the stigma attached to mental health issues speaks volumes about his character.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:01:26
I don't remember Cureton ever scoring or going on a run.. he and Thorpe are two of the most disappointing signings we have had in my supporting time - should have given so much and delivered absolutely nothing!

Scored in something like 6 or 7 successive home leagues games when came back from loan.

Those were his only goals mind you


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: leftside on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:04:10
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.
No. I remember him as being one of the most positive attacking midfielders we've had - someone who was confident in his abilities. Didn't always perform to his full ability, mind, and wouldn't make my best xi. A good player with a good attitude.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:06:23
Who was the Cambridge manager who had the team that sent the ball into orbit for most of the match?

I don't think you ever received an answer to your question (from 5 pages back.)  It was John Beck.  The papers loved it when we played them.  Hoddle's total passing game vs the brutality of Beck's kick'n'rush thumpball.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:08:55
He didn't stand out as amazing, but this was in a team that included the likes of Hoddle et al. He certainly was not crap.

If my memory serves me right, Lingy was named MoM in the '93 Play-off final


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:15:32
And welcome home, Lingy.

I'm amazed that his playing credentials are being questioned by some.  He was a key player in one of the most sublime passing sides ever to represent the Club - missing just 3 games in possibly the greatest season we ever had (1992/93).  What do you want...blood?!

He earned his stripes as a player, no doubt about it.  Challenge now is to make a name for himself all over again.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Bewster on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:19:35
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.

Simon Ferry reminded me a lot of Ling, very attacking minded but Lingy scored more and had a better final ball.

Very much agree with what Leftside said about Hoddle's midfield.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:28:13
I don't think you ever received an answer to your question (from 5 pages back.)  It was John Beck.  The papers loved it when we played them.  Hoddle's total passing game vs the brutality of Beck's kick'n'rush thumpball.

I went to one of the games there when Beck was manager. Jeez I'd never seen anything like it. Pitch was a beach, not that it mattered the ball barely touched it. I think it was 1-1. I did actually come home with a sore neck.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Summerof69 on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:28:26
I don't think you ever received an answer to your question (from 5 pages back.)  It was John Beck.  The papers loved it when we played them.  Hoddle's total passing game vs the brutality of Beck's kick'n'rush thumpball.

I remember the games when we tanked Cambridge 4-1, and Hoddle was taking the piss out of their players for most of the second half.

Beck got the sack soon after.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:29:23
And welcome home, Lingy.

I'm amazed that his playing credentials are being questioned by some.

Must correct you there..... his credentials are being questioned by 'one', not 'some. That 'one' being D.V.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Frigby Daser on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:31:02
I remember the games when we tanked Cambridge 4-1, and Hoddle was taking the piss out of their players for most of the second half.

Beck got the sack soon after.

I remember that game, just about. They had Dion Dublin and Claridge up front - not bad at all. I seem to remember that they grew the grass longer in the corners at the Abbey so that they could just pump it to the corner and it would hold up.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:34:54
Must correct you there..... his credentials are being questioned by 'one', not 'some. That 'one' being D.V.
In fairness he probably only remembers him from the division 1 title winning team under McMahon where he did have a pretty poor season and barely played.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:35:22
Their ball boys were also known for using towels to dry the ball in wet weather when Cambridge had a throw in; but failed to do so when the opposition had a throw.

Beck's football was ugly to watch, but highly effective.  Most of the time.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:36:14
Must correct you there..... his credentials are being questioned by 'one', not 'some. That 'one' being D.V.

...and that was me questioning my memory of him more so than anything. I just seem to remember him for having long red cycling shorts and getting bullied off the ball alot.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:37:53
...and that was me questioning my memory of him more so than anything. I just seem to remember him for having long red cycling shorts and getting bullied off the ball alot.
I didn't mean to single you out, I was genuinely interested as I've only seen footage of him (and the PO final) and he looked pretty good.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ardiles on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:38:57
In fairness he probably only remembers him from the division 1 title winning team under McMahon where he did have a pretty poor season and barely played.

Linger's pen pic from the ever-excellent www.swindon-town-fc.co.uk (http://swindon-town-fc.co.uk/Person.asp?PersonID=LINGMART) sums it up nicely:

Martin had two spells at Swindon, the first was in 1986/1987, where he made just two appearances before being transferred to Southend, after being unable to come to terms with Lou Macari's long ball style.

Ossie Ardiles brought him back to the club during 1990/1991, but it was under Glenn Hoddle that he really blossomed, and his best season for Swindon was in the promotion-winning year of 1992/1993, when he missed just three games. His good form resulted in him being named the "Carling Candidate", an award for the player of each team considered to be the most important for the forthcoming Premiership season.

Unfortunately, Ling never lived up to this billing - he was too lightweight for the Premiership - and he never really regained his form after that. After the Premier season, he stayed at the club for two more seasons, when his first team chances became more and more limited. He left at the end of the 1995/1996 season, after making just sixteen appearances during the Second Division championship campaign.


Easy to see how opinions could differ, depending on which seasons are being remembered.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:40:00
I remember watching the match when they came to the CG around that time.  They practised long balls from one end of the pitch to the other in the warm up.  Proper full length of the pitch twattings.  

I may be mis remembering it but before the match Im sure I could see they had some lads on the athletics pitch doing the same and at half time they sent players out early doing the same.


Title: Re:
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:45:58
Was Andy Kings first game as manager vs a Beck's Cambridge? Remember the gate being very very low and then having Dave Kitson


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: tans on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:47:20
Genuinely curious whether anyone else thinks this? I never saw him play myself.

I loved him as a player, was my idol when i was growing up


Title: Re:
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:49:30
Was Andy Kings first game as manager vs a Beck's Cambridge? Remember the gate being very very low and then having Dave Kitson
And half the Arkells stand being closed because the roof had fallen down!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 20:52:16
I definitely remember Lingy being very popular among our female fans.

And what was his song? "Martin-a-ling, Martin-a-ling"?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Saxondale on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 21:01:03
He was a really good player.  Him and Moncur were great in a great midfield.  I always though Hoddle was able to bring players up a level beyond there actual ability.  If that make sense.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: theakston2k on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 21:02:45
You can guarantee more George Moncur rumours in January as well if Ling gets the job.
Hopefully he doesn't still rate Billy Bodin. Could you imagine if he came back?! It'd be like the Miles Storey and Ty Belford love in on acid!


Title: Next manager
Post by: Batch on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 21:22:16
I didn't watch town regularly  until after the premier league season.

consequently I remember him as being distinctly average.

my last memory of seeing him play was Me shouting about him only having one leg,  just before he planted one in the onion bag.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Christy on Tuesday, November 3, 2015, 22:09:16
Fond memories of him as a player - Nathan Byrne might be a comparison for those who didn't see him, albeit quality at a level higher than Byrne managed with us. Lingy had a great ability to occupy opponents with long ball carrying runs...creating space for other talented players around him.  Genuinely exciting on his day, although he could be lightweight and inconsistent, and not the greatest finisher, he gave his all every week - a work ethic I look forward to him instilling.

Whilst he was sensational in 92/3, the Premier League was a level of muscle above him, although I think I remember him having a great game at Anfield.  And in the 95/6 season, didn't he take us into round 5 of the cup with a late, late volley against Oldham (possible stat: we didn't then beat a team from a higher division until the PDC regime)? 

Fair play to the honest, brave and public ways he's confronted his mental health issues in what is a pretty unsympathetic industry.  And fair play to Lee Power too for employing a man who didn't think he'd get another chance, it makes me feel a little bit proud of our club.

So round 5 of the FA Cup will do for starters this time around x


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Amir on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 00:02:18
My one abiding memory of him playing is that goal against Oldham, after they'd played 95 minutes for a draw. I even remember his suggestion that the manager should look at that performance and start him more regularly, although that probably suggests it was on an end of season highlights tape that I nearly wore out.

Having only seen him from 94-96, I'm of the same opinion as dv and batch about his footballing prowess. As for management I'm glad to see him at the club, so let's see what he can do!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: deltaincline on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 00:22:35
I have to say that I was sceptical about Ling rejoining us as manager.

Having read the link about his previous mental health issues and his own self doubts about ever getting another chance to manage in football, let alone a league club, and having heard him on the Sean Hodgetts blow-job show tonight (god that sycophantic creep makes my fucking blood boil...) I'm genuinely impressed.

He sounds like he knows what he wants and how to get it.

He sounds like he's happy to work under the Power-stylee management rules.

He's got a bit of a decent track record as a manager prior to his health problems.

He's an ex-town player with a good reputation in the game and he's going to be a lot hungrier for success that a lot of the carousel managers.

He's an exponent of passing football and he knows the club.

Overall, I think we could have done a lot worse.

Kudos to Power for taking a chance on him. Hopefully he'll repay the faith.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ticker45 on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 02:10:37
Quite happy to see him appointed and like many others on here remember him well from the Hoddle era. Just trust that he can instil the necessary combination of football and work ethic we currently require.

I may be wrong, but iirc he was a co-commentator on one of our away games (recently?) and was quite scathing about the way we were playing so it will be interesting to see what changes he makes.

 :hmmm:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 07:42:10
Martin Ling, Taking the piss out of Aston Villa in the FA cup in 92 (or was it 91). Him and Horlock ripped a new one into Notts County in the 92 season also.

Basically a much better version then Anthony Mcnamee.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: janaage on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 07:52:12
Basically a much better version then Anthony Mcnamee.

Really? I'd have said more of a superior Simon Ferry.

Ling was exceedingly reliable under Hoddle, excellent footballer who rarely let you down. Hope he's the same in management.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: derbystfc on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 08:06:11
Lingy mainly played out wide on the right, and cut in to let Kerslake/Summerbee take over on the overlap.

Ferry was a poor mans John Moncour.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 13:01:38
I didn't mean to single you out, I was genuinely interested as I've only seen footage of him (and the PO final) and he looked pretty good.



I know you weren't singling me out, someone did though :)
As has been said most of my Ling memories are 94-96 when he'd already peaked as a player for us.

My main Ling memory was a Tuesday night game against Charlton

We'd just sold Fjortoft so the number 9 shirt on the back of the program was blank. Stadium announcer announces Swindon Towns number 9 will be Martin Ling followed by someone a few rows in front getting up claimed he didn't pay x amount to watch Martin fucking Ling play upfront and he left.

We lost 1-0



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 13:05:16
After listening to his interview last night and him talking about coaching the one thing that is interesting is the reason that want to appoint another coach so they can split training and players can work on something different rather than all the same with Ling overseeing it but not involved.

Hopefully it will be a defensive coach


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DiV on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 13:09:51
I've not really bothered to put much thought into how Ling will do as our manager. Obviously there are certain things Power will dictate.

I just hope that between Ling and Power, they realise that we need to fight and scrap. You don't get out of relegation battled by playing football. We need to scrap. I know that isn't on Powers agenda but just grind out a few draws to start to with, just to stop the slide and get some confidence back in the squad - then perhaps come back round to the 'Igh Risk football we play


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Gullscorer on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 13:54:27
As a Torquay United supporter I'd like to wish Martin Ling all the very best in his new job as Swindon manager.

I have suffered from occasional depressions in my life, and I know they can be as debilitating as any other illness, until it is controlled and the sufferer learns to cope with them. But they never held me back in progressing in my career.

Until he was struck down with depression Martin was one of the Gulls' top managers at Plainmoor, and the manner in which he was dismissed by the previous Torquay board was disgraceful. We've had nothing but bad times since he left.

Overnight miracles don't happen, but I've no doubt that Martin, having survived that bad period in his life, will eventually bring new success to Swindon Town. He's a great guy and an excellent manager who deserves your full support.

Best of luck to him, and I look forward to the day, before I leave the planet, when I see another long-awaited Torquay-Swindon game!


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 14:08:58
Shouldn't this thread now be about discussing our next manager?

 :hmmm:


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 14:45:05
Ling out


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 15:57:37
As a Torquay United supporter I'd like to wish Martin Ling all the very best in his new job as Swindon manager.

I have suffered from occasional depressions in my life, and I know they can be as debilitating as any other illness, until it is controlled and the sufferer learns to cope with them. But they never held me back in progressing in my career.

Until he was struck down with depression Martin was one of the Gulls' top managers at Plainmoor, and the manner in which he was dismissed by the previous Torquay board was disgraceful. We've had nothing but bad times since he left.

Overnight miracles don't happen, but I've no doubt that Martin, having survived that bad period in his life, will eventually bring new success to Swindon Town. He's a great guy and an excellent manager who deserves your full support.

Best of luck to him, and I look forward to the day, before I leave the planet, when I see another long-awaited Torquay-Swindon game!

It's a shame to see the Gulls in a bit of a slump...always like an away day on the English Riviera, and there's been some good old games down the years. Here's hoping you can rally sufficiently to avoid Conference South or worse.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: steveg on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:18:54
It's a shame to see the Gulls in a bit of a slump...always like an away day on the English Riviera, and there's been some good old games down the years. Here's hoping you can rally sufficiently to avoid Conference South or worse.

Can remember being inside the ground and the commentator said" welcome to the Swindon fans and the Torquay fans will be along later" seems we have acquired their footwear of late.

Super Swindon fans( not shy of a moan didn't you know?)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:27:07
I have to say that I was sceptical about Ling rejoining us as manager.

Having read the link about his previous mental health issues and his own self doubts about ever getting another chance to manage in football, let alone a league club, and having heard him on the Sean Hodgetts blow-job show tonight (god that sycophantic creep makes my fucking blood boil...) I'm genuinely impressed.

He sounds like he knows what he wants and how to get it.

He sounds like he's happy to work under the Power-stylee management rules.

He's got a bit of a decent track record as a manager prior to his health problems.

He's an ex-town player with a good reputation in the game and he's going to be a lot hungrier for success that a lot of the carousel managers.

He's an exponent of passing football and he knows the club.

Overall, I think we could have done a lot worse.

Kudos to Power for taking a chance on him. Hopefully he'll repay the faith.
My thoughts exactly, I am somewhat optimistic having reflected and listened to the phone in yesterday, which was heightened by securing Gladwin for the season who is arguably our best player.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: steveg on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:33:18
My thoughts exactly, I am somewhat optimistic having reflected and listened to the phone in yesterday, which was heightened by securing Gladwin for the season who is arguably our best player.
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Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 18:59:54
My thoughts exactly, I am somewhat optimistic having reflected and listened to the phone in yesterday, which was heightened by securing Gladwin for the season who is arguably our best player.

24 hr recall....Chris Ramsey to be sacked soon, wouldn't get over excited about it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Costanza on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 19:08:31
Quote from: Reg Smeeton link=the opic=56128.msg1357781#msg1357781 date=1446663594
24 hr recall....Chris Ramsey to be sacked soon, wouldn't get over excited about it.

Agreed. It's good news but I don't expect him to be at Town for the duration.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Processed Beats on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 20:39:49
Technical director also incoming according to Sam.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 20:42:23
What is a 'technical director'.

I'm guessing it might be a different title for a DOF because we already have a DOF (Power).

Anybody?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: sonicyouth on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 20:50:25
What is a 'technical director'.

I'm guessing it might be a different title for a DOF because we already have a DOF (Power).

Anybody?
My boss is Technical Director... he's not big on football though.


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: bigbobjoylove on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 21:06:17
What is a 'technical director'.

I'm guessing it might be a different title for a DOF because we already have a DOF (Power).

Anybody?
It is. Power sounds like he's practically going hands off on the football side now then?


Title: Re: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 21:15:27
It is. Power sounds like he's practically going hands off on the football side now then?

How dare he not get too involved.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: suttonred on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 21:24:45
Tech director is a flashy title for building supervisor. I.e he/she will be doing the training ground etc, that's my interpretation of it.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 21:38:52
24 hr recall....Chris Ramsey to be sacked soon, wouldn't get over excited about it.

 :cry: Warnock will want him back.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Wednesday, November 4, 2015, 22:18:53
Ling out

 :D

Sometimes - just sometimes - you make I larf John


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Friday, November 6, 2015, 12:23:43
Technical director also incoming according to Sam.

I think I see some chatter on twitter about some guy that has recently been with Sherwood at Spurs & Villa and he's to go along with our new Chief scout Sam Jewell


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: china red on Friday, November 6, 2015, 12:26:53
Tech director is a flashy title for building supervisor. I.e he/she will be doing the training ground etc, that's my interpretation of it.

In this case it's the guy responsible for video analysis etc


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Processed Beats on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 17:06:26
Embleton joins as first team coach.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: corner on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 17:09:32
Embleton joins as first team coach.
http://www.swindontownfc.co.uk/news/article/embleton-joins-coaching-staff-2795387.aspx


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Minnesota Fats on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 17:23:33
You can make the words Motorless, Obsolete and Molester from his name but those of us on a more positive footing can use 'Reblossom'.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 18:06:52
Williams Assistant Manager.

Surely close enough for me to lose the Chang moniker.

He was offered the job, mind


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Dr Pierre Chang on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 18:24:45
He was offered the job, mind
Utter nonsense.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Flashheart on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 18:25:17
The battle of the Changs.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Skinny Pete on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 18:28:24
Utter nonsense.
Twice


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Abrahammer on Tuesday, November 10, 2015, 18:43:02
The battle of who knows the least has commenced


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 08:38:26
I think Chang could actually win this one


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Ells on Wednesday, November 11, 2015, 11:27:54
"Win" in the loosest sense of the word..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 10:59:06
I see ASD has tweeted today that Power has already blocked some changes Ling wanted to make.  This isnt going to end well.

Time for a thread revival?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:07:06
Hmm, I wonder what kind of changes..


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:17:01
Hmm, I wonder what kind of changes..

Maybe he wanted a new chairman?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:19:07
Maybe he wanted a new chairman?

Haha yeah perhaps  8)


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: jayohaitchenn on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:24:31
Can't see that tweet anywhere, can someone quote please


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: fittons_coaching_badge on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:30:20
Can't see that tweet anywhere, can someone quote please

Looks like wisely he has deleted it


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: DarloSTFC84 on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:34:02
Hmm... odds on him not getting through the door tonight?..  :D


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:40:37
All it said was that he was "led to believe Ling had already been blocked many changes"

Nothing more on it, really.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Samdy Gray on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:48:22
Do FLIC actually have any credible sources? Or is it mostly bullshit plucked out of the air, or rumours passed on from youth team players?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:52:41
No idea, and I doubt if they do have sources they are willing to publicy name them. I've known ASD for a few years and he's a good lad, if I were him I'd try and move on to covering another team. Covering STFC right know is a thankless task.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Talk Talk on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 11:54:07
Covering STFC right know is a thankless task.

Supporting STFC right now is a thankless task too  :(

But I will be there tonight. The word "dicking" comes to mind.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:21:01
If true, what's the point in having a manager who literally can't do anything? I didn't particularly mind Power doing the recruiting and it's probably the right way to go if the manager has an input too given Power's links with top established clubs. But to not let the manager manage the actual team just seems ridiculous to me


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:30:30
I do miss Sammy Morshead at lease when he said something you knew it was reliable instead of needing to question it - I bet Power is happy Sam is out of the picture though


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Reg Smeeton on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:32:22
I didn't particularly mind Power doing the recruiting and it's probably the right way to go if the manager has an input too given Power's links with top established clubs.

 The links though, do seem a bit dependent on individuals....who often don't hang about too long. So the Spurs thing was obviously down to Sherwood, and we haven't had anyone since he went.

 The Liverpool link through Rodgers, obviously was oiled by being nice to Anton....now he's gone. Which really only leaves Soton who let us have a couple and Norwich.

 It's the recruitment that has let us down this season....


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: JoeMezz on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:39:21
It's the recruitment that has let us down this season....

100%. You can't replace the calibre of player that left with the likes of Luongo, Foderingham, Gladwin, Byrne with Balmy, Barry, Brophy and Vigouroux. The recruitment was naive


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:42:26
The manager of a football team should be making the football decisions. The formation, who plays, who takes training and what they do in training etc.
He should also be the one identifying players he may wish to bring in and ship out. He can then go to the chairman with that for a yes or no. The chairman should be there to run the ship from upstairs dealing with funds etc not playing director of football.

 The current methods being used at stfc are farcical. Whilst it's like this it doesn't make a blind bit of difference who the manager is. They're not actually free to manage are they?
Where has this worked before as I can't think of anywhere?


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 12:57:57
The current methods being used at stfc are farcical. Whilst it's like this it doesn't make a blind bit of difference who the manager is. They're not actually free to manage are they?
Where has this worked before as I can't think of anywhere?
If the setup is as suggested (and we don't *know* that but if it is), then I guess it's probably better to think of Cooper/Ling in terms of a combined head coach and 1st team figurehead rather than a traditional English manager.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 13:01:54
If the setup is as suggested (and we don't *know* that but if it is), then I guess it's probably better to think of Cooper/Ling in terms of a combined head coach and 1st team figurehead rather than a traditional English manager.
They're not even that as the coaching is decided for them. Cooper challenged that and was shown the door. They're the matchday face and frontman. Little more


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: pauld on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 13:04:01
They're not even that as the coaching is decided for them.
Well the overall style is. I doubt that Power goes to the trouble of emailing in detailed training plans for each day though. And yes I know Williams supposedly does a lot of the detailed work.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Tails on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 13:37:06
The manager of a football team should be making the football decisions. The formation, who plays, who takes training and what they do in training etc.
He should also be the one identifying players he may wish to bring in and ship out. He can then go to the chairman with that for a yes or no. The chairman should be there to run the ship from upstairs dealing with funds etc not playing director of football.

 The current methods being used at stfc are farcical. Whilst it's like this it doesn't make a blind bit of difference who the manager is. They're not actually free to manage are they?
Where has this worked before as I can't think of anywhere?


Us last season? There are a few clubs who have a similar set up tbf, we aren't operating alone in this manner. I just don't think the other clubs 'DOF' happen to also be Chairman / Owner.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Arriba on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 14:44:52
Us last season? There are a few clubs who have a similar set up tbf, we aren't operating alone in this manner. I just don't think the other clubs 'DOF' happen to also be Chairman / Owner.
yeah to a point it worked for a while to be fair. Ain't now though.

A DOF can work I'm sure but not to the extent it is done here. Just think it's excessive. Not enough freedom for the manager.



Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Sir red ken on Tuesday, November 24, 2015, 18:24:20
The replacement for ML is already at the club, if /when he goes, one of the back room guys will step up to the firing line.
There will be no investment in the team or management in this division or the next.


Title: Re: Next manager
Post by: Power to people on Wednesday, November 25, 2015, 13:24:16
Interesting to know what Embelton (sp?) does on the training pitch as he was brought in seemingly by Power but he does know Ling though I believe.

Makes me laugh though when the press state that Williams knows Ling and worked with him at Orient - I believe Williams was working in the youth dept with no input on first team matters so they only worked together indirectly, and have not kept in touch or anything since.