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What's wrong with these cunts? I might be biased because I have a Grandfather who was Hindu and said 'never ever ever trust a muslim'. Say something good. PS. the mathematics is a lie, that's Berber, Phoenician and Greek.

There is a lot of bad associated with Islam (and a lot more good) but I don't think Power and Sherwood have gone jihadi just yet

When's the last time you saw Power eating a bacon sandwich?...

He was responsible for signing Feruz though. Worst Islamic act I've seen for ages.

Should read:

All organised religion, what a load of crap.

As with all of these large religious umbrellas, the values of Islam are pretty obvious, universal to all humans and other religions:

http://www.muslim.org/islam/int-is7.htm

Generalising much?

 Have you considered signing up Dosser?  It's an open religion they'll take anyone. You could marry 3 or 4 women, then get shot with any that don't come up to scratch easily enough at a Sharia Court.  Not sure about the FGM thing mind.....reckon you'd want to give that a swerve.

Islam is a violet religion. It's actually quite shocking the versus in there full context you can abstract from the Quran and Hadith (Sahih Bukhari & Sahih Muslim). People that assume the so called 'prophet' of Islam was peaceful simply haven't read the Islamic text. Muhammed plagiarised much of his material from the Jews and Christians, but more concerning was his actions; murder on a massive scale (he gave orders to kill 600 men, woman and children of one settlement in one day), theft from rival 'caravans', abuse of his wives, and horrifically he married his child Brodie Aisha when she was six years old before consummating his marriage when she was nine (he was 54 at this point).

There is also hundreds of versus that promote the killing of Jews, and versus that encourage non muslims to be forced to pay Muslims tax (jeezya tax).

Many Muslims will use snippets from the Quran that sound peaceful. For example Quran 5:32 "if anyone killed a person it would be if as if he killed all humanity". What Muslims don't like to talk about is the very next phrase, "unless he is causing mischief in he land". Ironically Muhammed considers any non Muslims 'mischievous'. So the Quran is only interested in preserving Islam as he foremost power in politics and theology and considers all non believers as infidels, not worthy and less of a human.

While there are many Muslims who don't actually read the texts or even take them seriously, and just associate Islam with their upbringing & culture, we cannot deny that these versus are real and in the Quran. In the west we like to bury our head and are far to afraid to confront an issue like this for fear of being labelled a racist, xenophobe or islamaphobe.

With current population growth of Islamic families having an average of 5 children to infidels 2, and with immigration continuing at its current rate it will only be a few generations before we have an Islamic majority electorate. Now tell me, is that not a scary prospect for your future family?

Blimey Dostoyevsky's pathetic attempt at pseudo Trump like humour is very boring

I was with you until you went all Daily Mail at the end.

That's fair enough. but it's reality. Some people may not mind slowly evolving into an Islamic nation, some will be concerned. Regardless of that, the facts are it will happen at current projections.

No it isn't. Muslim population of the UK is less than 5%

A couple of nutters does not mean we face a 'Gates of Vienna' situation, in the same way Ian Huntley doesn't represent the vast majority of white men.

5.4% to be precise on 2016 statistics. It's also the demographic with the highest birth rates and immigration. A change is undeniably occurring, and whilst it may seem insignificant ATM, it will be a lot higher as generations pass.

It's nothing to do with 'nutters'. Its a change in culture and values.

You mean life?  Imagine the poor Pagan's when Christianity started to take hold

What current projections? From which source?

I'm surprised you ask tbh, this information has been available for years. Every country in Europe is experiencing a growth in the population percentage of Muslims.

There are many sources out there.

http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2016/07/19/5-facts-about-the-muslim-population-in-europe/

Clearly not a concern for you. but we are slowly changing, that is a fact.

It is tough with all those powerful Islamic people running the country at the moment

Do you have another link? The one you gave does not support your assertion.

Oh. Your maths appears to be shit 🙄

OK then, so why don't you explain it to us. Mathematically...

So in about 500 years they will reach the majority if everything else bumbles along as it has done for about 20 years.

I bet the Anglo Saxons would have killed for that timeframe to organise a resistance.  Fucking William and his conquering, or was it the Romans, or the Vikings.  anyway, if our culture looks anything like it does today in 500 years time something will have tragically gone wrong.

The link he used was Pew Research, and I trust them as a reliable source. That particular article just does not support his claim though. It says that Muslim populations have been rising in recent decades (no shit Sherlock), but it does not offer a projection in the coming decades and beyond.

One projection that I'm aware of (I think from Pew research) is that Islam will double from 5% to 10% (ish) by 2050. Some will take it to mean that it will double again to 20% by 2100, but it doesn't work that way. My maths are bad though, so what would I know?

I think most on here know that I don't pull punches when it comes to Islam and other religions, but that doesn't mean that one has to indulge in bullshit and scaremongering. There's enough stuff that's genuinely bad about religion that there's no need to go making stuff up to make it sound worse.

Religion and politics happen to be the two things I'm least interested in.  :pint:

All religions are fucking ridiculous. Now I'm off to find proof the 100s of god's don't exist

Stop using facts, you liberal snowflake

And do you have a source for this?

Always been a little more mauve to me.

Of course. The Quran / Sahih Bukhari / Sahih Muslim. And many other lesser regarded Hadith

You said yourself that the Islamic population is estimated to have double percentage wise by 2050. If that trend continues we'll have an Islamic population of around 20% in 2080, and getting to roughly 40-50% this time next century, maybe even quicker.

It doesn't work like that. That's an overly simplistic way of looking at it.

If immigration causes the population to rise by 5% in 50 years then, assuming it continues at the same rate, it'll rise by another 5% (actually less) in 50 years. Not double it It's only doubling between now and 2050 because the numbers are fairly small. There's a huge fault in your reasoning right there. Take 10, add 10 and you have an increase of 100%. Add another 10 and you have an increase of 50%.

Then take into account that the birth rate will drop once those here have access to education, contraception, secular values and the women learning they don't have to stay at home and be baby factories. The ill educated Muslims from overseas tend to pop them out but the westernised variety tend to find jobs etc.

The Muslim population of the UK is young which is another reason behind the sharp increase, they will get old and start dying though. Also take into account that education is likely to help future generations see that it's bullshit and, without apostasy laws, they can just leave it all behind.

There's many variable to take into account and many reasons why it will just peter out, as with the population of Indians in the 70s.

People are leaving Islam (and other religions) in their droves. Yes, The number of Muslims is growing, but at a slower rate than they are giving birth. They are leaving. http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/ex-muslims-fear-atheism-violent-revenge-tsunami-of-atheism-a7344661.html https://www.theguardian.com/global/2015/may/17/losing-their-religion-british-ex-muslims-non-believers-hidden-crisis-faith

Christian churches around the UK (and elsewhere) are empty. Atheism is on the rise. Islam is just a re-hash of Christianity so that'll see the same fate once it's followers are exposed to education and are allowed to question their faith.The Middle East will wake up as well  in time. Islamic leaders know full well the religion is under threat, some have even said that the biggest threat to Islam is apostasy. Saudi Arabia has even declared atheism to be a terrorist act in order to try and protect the religion.

Don't forget to factor in converts like Sherwood, Power, and Violet, whoever she is.

I agree but it could take an awfully long time, and it will most likely provoke more violence as they struggle to stop it.

I've seen how it works in Cambodia, albeit with patriarchy rather than religion. More confident, educated women there are less likely to accept an abusive husband or just stay home popping them out. The difference is no one there is shooting schoolgirls in the head for wanting an education.

Islam 5 - 2 Infidels.

Decent result that.

As an atheist I'd be fairly top of most religions' hate list. Am I worried? Nah. Bollocks to the lot of 'em, and especially the individuals so deluded as to want to commit violence on 'the other' (and that includes the Thomas Mairs of this world).

Definitely. It won't happen overnight as people are scared, but it's on the rise. Authorities in the Middle East are trying to clamp down on it but you can't force people to believe.

Though no-one tried out that idea more thoroughly than Cambodia, on schoolgirls and anyone else.

And the effects are still being felt today. Amongst other things, the national curriculum teaches that stars are rocks in the sky reflecting the light of the sun.

Check out the fucking nutters that end up there too(on topic!)....Dossy might even get a date....

http://www.khmer440.com/chat_forum/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=58063

Are you not still in Cambodia? You're speaking in past tense.

The problem is if you don't take an interest in politics, it will take an interest in you, especially your pay packet

I'm in sunny England, trying to get a visa for the other half. I bought a small piece of land there so we can always move back, but I doubt it very much.

Sunni England more like.

 
:D

Shi'ite England for most of the year.

That's kind of the rhetoric you give to school kids about voting. I certainly care about the political issues that affect me and my family and I'll always vote but I'll be fucked if I'm going to give up more than 5 seconds of my life to listen to politicians argue with eachother or worry about what Theresa May has or hasn't said about fishing subsidiaries.